I know there are a few threads for this, I just wanted to create a thread that was more clear on all of this and to keep up with the general development in this area. Nothing major like the sports complex or if the plans for an indoor shopping mall do in fact happen.

There is this new McDonalds that was approved. AWWWW YEAH!??!!?!? NEW MCDONALDS IN THE HOUSE... WHAT UP-WHAT UP? lol j/k But here is the article.


Planning Commission approves McDonald’s site
James Coburn
The Edmond Sun

EDMOND — The Edmond Planning Commission approved the site plan for McDonald’s 5-0 Tuesday night. But the vote came with some reservations about acceptance of the landscaping variance for the property proposed for the southwest corner of Covell and I-35.

City Planner Bob Schiermeyer said the plan does not provide the 10-foot wide improved landscape area the city requires along the east property line. McDonald’s is planning for a 7-foot wide landscaping area instead of the 10 feet required between the parking and right-of-way, said Ryan Oschner, Urban Forestry coordinator.

The smaller landscape will cause McDonald’s to be 122 planting units short of requirements for the site, Oschner said. Planning Commission Chairman asked why McDonald’s cannot provide the 122 planting units on their property.

“I’m not sure why that isn’t possible,” Oschner said.

In representing McDonald’s, Greg Massey with Red Plains civil engineering company said McDonald’s is able to provide the 122 planting units on the site. However, negotiations with city staff has instead resulted in McDonald’s asking to provide landscaping and maintenance on the median islands within Market Street.

“Medians within public right-of-way are dedicated to the city, unless such areas are platted to identify a specific owner,” Schiermeyer said. Commissioner Bill Moyer said he is proud of the landscaping requirements for the Interstate 35 corridor.

“I want to make sure we get what we bargained for,” Moyer said.

Massey said he agreed with city staff when he was asked if McDonald’s would be willing to place the plantings in the median. The median would be considered a common area to be maintained by McDonald’s Massey said.

- See more at: Planning Commission approves McDonald?s site » Local News » The Edmond Sun (http://www.edmondsun.com/local/x1022872168/Planning-Commission-approves-McDonald-s-site#sthash.hMBqlWK2.dpuf)

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Nothing special though.

snoooooooze....(about micky ds) lol.

snoooooooze....(about micky ds) lol.I know lol. . . I was being sarcastic about being excited for it. Hopefully we will get some good announcements, but I'm not holding my breath for it.

My big takeaway from this story is that yet again McDonald's is wanting the rules changed for them. And the worse part is even when it happens, they don't keep their word.

When they were opening their retro "Rock and Roll" McD's at 33rd and Broadway, they fought to get exemptions for signage and neon. They promised they would maintain the neon, and keep it looking nice. Well, that lasted about 5 years, and since then (until the recent remodel) the store has been a blight (not that the shopping center needs help looking run down).

Another Mcdonald's just what they need. If there isn't enough of them in the area as is.

Development at any cost. It's the Edmond way.

Development at any cost. It's the Edmond way.This particular McDonalds is actually nicer than the majority that are being built.... Edmond is a very nice little suburb and has received many awards. We get it, you don't like suburbs. Go back to your concrete jungle and Dallas bashing while 20 story high-rise every other week are being announced there while here we have 100+ page thread over a crappy downtown 14 story building lol

We need to deflect from that by bashing Edmond. Why do you even open the Edmond thread when you clearly do not like suburbs and what they stand for?

Another Mcdonald's just what they need. If there isn't enough of them in the area as is.I agree with you on this. No reason for another McDonalds :/

Not thrilled about McD's but glad to have new thread, so thanks for that.

This particular McDonalds is actually nicer than the majority that are being built.... Edmond is a very nice little suburb and has received many awards. We get it, you don't like suburbs. Go back to your concrete jungle and Dallas bashing while 20 story high-rise every other week are being announced there while here we have 100+ page thread over a crappy downtown 14 story building lol

We need to deflect from that by bashing Edmond. Why do you even open the Edmond thread when you clearly do not like suburbs and what they stand for?
Take it down a couple of notches.

It's my hometown and where my entire family lives and works. I care a great deal about Edmond. So much so that it pains me to see the unsustainable path the city is on.

Take it down a couple of notches.

It's my hometown and where my entire family lives and works. I care a great deal about Edmond. So much so that it pains me to see the unsustainable path the city is on.I actually agree with you and JTF about Edmond centering and focusing its efforts on I-35 and Covell, however I--for whatever reason--think this area might turn out to be more than what people are making it out to be. Edmond has also shown great interest in urbanizing its core and encouraging a commuter rail for the OKC metro.

As much as I like 6 lane streets, if I had my way, Broadway into downtown would be narrowed to one lane each with sidewalks widened and a streetcar running from downtown to UCO. For the Covell/I-35 development, I am glad Edmond is choosing to widen the road to 6 lanes.

Hopefully this area really fills in and this is the final sprawl for awhile until we can really get some major infill. I think Edmond is doing some great things. I am in the middle of a plan I will be submitting to Edmond ranging from concerns to widening 2nd ST., the new Covell portions, its downtown, the service roads. I have been working on a few renderings(they're not anywhere as good as yours were for the BLVD, but its something) and some other infrastructure layouts.

Take it down a couple of notches.

It's my hometown and where my entire family lives and works. I care a great deal about Edmond. So much so that it pains me to see the unsustainable path the city is on.

"the unsustainable path the city is on." Can you elaborate on that please? What is this unsustainable path and why do you think it is unsustainable?

As ho hum as it is for Edmond to be getting another McDonald's in their new development on Covell & I-35 it's still > than UNP.

Although the development of Covell and I-35 may be better than the development of UNP, the good news about UNP (as far as the city of Norman is concerned) is that it stopped sales tax dollars from fleeing to Moore (Fritts Farm) or maybe even siphoned off a little sales tax from Fritts Farm. The Covell & I-35 development does nothing to improve Edmond's sales tax flow, as far as I can see. It's just spreading Edmonds sales tax collection out a bit.

I'm not sure I agree. The Covell & I-35 plans should work out well. The Summit sports complex will bring in events and students from all over the state and out of state as well. Combine that with the Hilton and 20,000 sf convention center going in there, and then support businesses like the McD's, and I don't know how this DOESN'T get new sales tax revenues for Edmond.

Not to mention the new Francis Tuttle training center and business incubator being built there. In a very short time I expect that area to be a pretty vital hub for Edmond.

Not to mention the new Francis Tuttle training center and business incubator being built there. In a very short time I expect that area to be a pretty vital hub for Edmond.It's already finished and open! :)

Oh yeah... forgot it was done. But yeah, the convention center hotel combined with the sports center and the FT center will tie in with some local support businesses and generate some new revenue for the city.

Funny how a major lifestyle center was slated for this site not long ago. Heh.

I know, I would've like for that happen. There is still a slim possibility, but I'm not holding my breath.

"Major lifestyle center"? What was that?

"Major lifestyle center"? What was that?Before 2008 crash, there were talks of an enclosed upscale mall and/or a huge lifestyle center to be built out there, but unfortunately, that died. Who knows though, it could be reborn, but is unlikely. :/

Panda, thanks for keeping us up to date on the developments in Edmond. Now you just need to go back to the locally owned Farmers Grain and buy something....they're good folks.

Hey no problem! I actually have been back, I just got frustrated that one time. I am starting a new vegetable/herb garden and will try to buy everything from them.

New Update on this!


Edmond to apply for roadway fund
James Coburn
The Edmond Sun

EDMOND — The City of Edmond is preparing to submit a grant application to the state for the portion Covell Parkway extending from Interstate 35 interchange to Fairfax Drive. City staff will be meeting with state officials to discuss how Edmond fits into the pecking order allotted for funds, Commons said.

There might be a need for the city to increase its local share of capital commitment by $1 million to $2 million to keep the project moving forward, he said before the city council this week. An expensive project in Norman already rates favorably to get state money, Commons said.

Increasing roadway infrastructure needs are not going to go away on that portion of Covell, Commons said. A new McDonald’s restaurant is proposed for the southwest corner of I-35 and Covell. Also, Councilwoman Victoria Caldwell noted that a public new high school will be constructed in six years on an 80-acre site located on the southeast corner of Air Depot and Covell.

“Some of these major road projects may become such that we have to fund a road entirely on our own,” Stevens said. “We were willing to do that at Kelly and Covell. The only reason we didn’t have to is our engineering folks were able to get us back in the mix and we ended up with $7 million from the state.”

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Rendering for the conference center.
- See more at: Edmond to apply for roadway fund » Local News » The Edmond Sun (http://www.edmondsun.com/local/x1724061405/Edmond-to-apply-for-roadway-fund#sthash.UO1UeU3s.dpuf)

I am really liking this. All the designs are great. The rendering for the conference center is better than I thought it would be. It also nice to see Edmond recognizes six lane roads are the best answer for artery and access roads; just like Classen, Shields, Lincoln, and Northwest Expressway. This will be really nice when said and done. Can't wait! I just hope we get some really cool unexpected announcements like an enclosed upscale mall or a lifestyle center here.

They're not identical twins, but it has a look similar to the Cancer Institute in Tulsa. I do like it, though.

There is still some "lifestyle"/entertainment development planned for the NW corner of the area.

Well, the McDonalds has been approved. I guess this will be the first thing built here. A McDonalds or a Walmart being the first to anchor a large development, nothing new.

McDonald?s receives landscaping variance » Local News » The Edmond Sun (http://www.edmondsun.com/local/x1783664814/McDonald-s-receives-landscaping-variance)

Oh ick, there goes the hood.

Haha, I actually don't really mind a McDonalds here, I just wish it would've been cooler like this one

http://arabiangazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/happiest-mcdonalds.jpg
This is a McDonalds in Dallas

but no, it is the same bland layout and design. It also sucks that it seems nearly every large scale development here in Oklahoma is either first anchored by some fast food joint or a Walmart. Thankfully that is changing as seen with the new Western and Memorial Chisholm Creek development with St. Anthony's building a nice facility there. Not saying this will become a shabby development, just pointing out some standards that seems to be :)

I just want to add a bit to this thread. Remember that there is possibility of a Cress going in on the corner of Sooner and Covell. Also there has been a bunch of residential lots approved for the Covell and Air Depot/Midwest blvd area just east of I-35. Now when those home do get built and occupied, the high school built, how many cars do you think will be coming through the area? Have to plan now for the traffic. I live east of the area, humm I'll soon no longer be out in the country.

I saw a bobcat me thinks, at Douglas and Covell this evening. I'll miss all these critters when the area develops.

Awesome new update!


Hotel positioning could offer serene view
James Coburn
The Edmond Sun

EDMOND — A proposal by Covell I-35 Development LLC concerning a property exchange for the hotel-conference center site was discussed this week by the City Council. Covell/I-35 Development LLC wants to move the $25.5 million Hilton Garden Inn farther west, within the northwest corner of I-35 and Covell.

Assistant City Manager Steve Commons said originally the structure was designated to be on the east side of the property within view of Interstate 35 traffic.

“Maybe being on that side of the development wasn’t in the best interest of the hotel-conference center,” Commons said.

It would be close to the traffic flow of what could be some major big-box retailers, Commons said. Consideration is now being given to improving lifestyle development at different pace on the west side. The hotel-conference center would serve as an anchor at one end of the lifestyle center, Commons said.

A pond would be within sight of hotel guests from their windows instead of interstate traffic, he said.

“A conference center having this green space to the north may prove to be a nice synergy in a sense between the two developments,” Commons said.

A planning group out of Texas gave its opinion that relocated the site makes planning sense, Commons said.

Other development expected along Sooner Road and on Covell will not make the six-story hotel-conference center appear as isolated property, Commons said. The land area is half an acre larger than the previous site for the hotel, he said.

“We’ve given that to the appraiser. We should have a report back in early March,” and hopefully we can have documents for you to consider at your March 24 meeting to deal with the exchange of property and how that should be handled.”

Mayor Charles Lamb said this would enable people staying at the hotel-conference center to walk through the common area to retail.

“It will be a better setting for that kind of event.”

- See more at: Hotel positioning could offer serene view » Local News » The Edmond Sun (http://www.edmondsun.com/local/x1783693991/Hotel-positioning-could-offer-serene-view#sthash.sPVvEW47.dpuf)

This is nice. The hotel will now overlook a pond that will be built instead of the highway. New big box stores w/ new national retailers will also come to this area with a possible lifestyle center type development in the works. This could be really significant!!!

What they need to do now is widen Covell from Air Depot to Coltrane to six lanes, do the same with Sooner from Danforth to Coffee Creek. Widen the highway to six lanes to Waterloo, add service roads along this portion of the highway. The service roads here should be one way, three lanes each way, dedicated right turn, dual left turn, heavily landscaped, removed height limit for buildings. Buy ROW for a new highway loop around Edmond and N OKC from Waterloo to Portland and Kilpatrick. The also need to buy ROW for a commuter rail line going through here as well as a park and ride station. let the bashing begin with the anti car and highway folks :)


What's happening


McDonalds
World Class Sports Complex
6 Story Hilton Hotel



What's Likely


Braums
Large Upscale Movie Complex
Entertainment Complex including: laser tag/arcade, alchol/drink lounge, sports bar(which would likely be part of the movie theatre)
Lifestyle center on the west side
various big box retailers(perhaps some that aren't in the OKC market yet)
tons of new restaurants and smaller stores
Crest Fresh Market
Walmart Neighborhood Market in the area
New Convenience Store



Property for hotel nearing close
James Coburn
The Edmond Sun

EDMOND — The City of Edmond and Covell I-35 Development LLC are about to close on a property exchange for a hotel-conference center site, said Janet Yowell, executive director of the Edmond Economic Development Authority.

“We are anticipating an October or November groundbreaking for the hotel and conference center,” Yowell told the EEDA board Tuesday morning.

The Edmond City Council in October approved a proposal by Covell I-35 Development LLC concerning a property exchange for the hotel-conference center site. Covell/I-35 Development LLC is developing infrastructure for the $25.5 million Hilton Garden Inn farther west, within the northwest corner of I-35 and Covell.

Originally, the structure was designated to be on the east side of the property within view of Interstate 35 traffic.

The 6-story hotel was originally planned to be on the east side of the property within view of Interstate 35 traffic. Consideration was given to improving lifestyle development on the west side. Developers plan to bring national retailers at the site.

“Now that the infrastructure is in, I think once we get the hotel-conference center coming out of the ground and seeing that vertical activity, there will be more interest,” Yowell said. “The same with Summit Sports. They are looking at a November time-frame for ground breaking.”

A movie theater group has shown interest in developing a 150,000-square-foot complex, Yowell said. They would like it to be near activity generated by Summit Sports, Yowell said. However, the theater group has not determined an east or west location on Covell and I-35.

There would be theater, a laser tag and arcade, a sports bar downstairs, a restaurant and alcohol service available upstairs, Yowell said.

“That is one we have been talking to for a couple of months now,” Yowell said.

Braum’s has shown interest in the southwest corridor of I-35 and Covell as well as a gas and convenience store, Yowell said.

So far a building permit has not been pulled by McDonald’s to build on the southwest corner of I-35 and Covell, Yowell said. The city council approved the McDonald’s site plan in January.

“The southwest corner is always going to be big box and fast-food development, Yowell said.

In October, the community gathered to celebrate the Francis Tuttle Business Innovation Center, 2824 Progressive Drive. The 38,000-square-foot building is near the northeast corner of Covell Road and Interstate 35.

- See more at: Property for hotel nearing close » Local News » The Edmond Sun (http://www.edmondsun.com/local/x1396893704/Property-for-hotel-nearing-close#sthash.JPXvavbO.dpuf)

I'm very glad they decided to place the hotel away from the highway to give people a better and more scenic view. This should be a great development. Hopefully they can tie into the trails system and/or expand it out here and build a pedestrian bridge over the highway and another one over Covell with LED lighting.

I'll post some renderings of how I think the service roads should be designed. The interchanges like the one on Main Street are cool, but I hope ODOT doesn't do that for here. What we need is this highway designed like North Dallas Tollway(NDT). Right now, have one way service roads added at 3 lanes each way, have the entries and exits every mile reversed like NDT with Texas Turnarounds at every major street, dual left turn and dedicated right turn. I don't want bike lanes on the service roads, but on Covell and Sooner that would be great. No round-a-bouts except inside the developments. Hopefully they synchronize the lights as well with the plethora of traffic lights they have planned for the area.

that description sounds identical to a Warren type theatre..

that description sounds identical to a Warren type theatre..A Warren Theatre would be cool. It would be kind of the same how Warren is placed between Norman and OKC. Stillwater is a bit further out, but I could see this becoming a night-out for people in Stillwater.

that description sounds identical to a Warren type theatre..

Hmm!

The Crest is still in the works from what I've heard.

Here's the Neighborhood Market I mentioned about awhile back:


EDMOND, Oklahoma -
Homeowners in several additions near Covell and Coltrane are upset about a proposal to develop the Northwest corner of the intersection.

Tucked behind a wooded area at Covell and Coltrane sits an addition with more than 200 homes. The homeowners there say this is their slice of paradise, but they are not happy about a new neighbor that could be moving in within months.

“We don't want it, it's going to cause problems, it's going to cause security issues and it's going to ruin our beautiful way of life,” homeowner Kelly Black explained.

Black is not alone. She and a coalition of dozens of angry homeowners in the area say they will fight plans for a big grocery story.

An attorney for the land owner told News 9 that the current plan calls for a 42,000 square foot grocery store. The developer also plans to put in gas pumps. The homeowners met with the developer recently and worry the 24/7 operation of the store will cause major traffic congestion and create safety concerns for the residential neighborhood.

“Currently it's a four-way stop," said Black. "You know, one lane each way, and the traffic over the years, I’ve lived here twenty years in this addition, has gotten increasingly busy.”

Black cannot understand how the current road will handle any additional traffic that could come with the addition of the store. The homeowners association met with developers recently where they saw pictures of the plan. According to many of them, the drawings look like a Neighborhood Walmart store, but due to a non-disclosure agreement, the developer will not confirm or deny if that is the store.

Attorney Randel Shadid is representing the land owner and told News 9 he believes the project will ultimately be approved, because the nearly 10-acre lot has been zoned for commercial purposes for many years.

“We're looking at some of the concerns of the neighbors and trying to address some of those before we actually file the site plan,” Shadid said.

The homeowners still have major concerns, including the value of their properties and the view from their back yards.

“They're going to have a completely open area to the parking lot, the gas pumps and the grocery store, the pharmacy, the truck deliveries, everything that comes along with a 42,000 square foot grocery store,” Black said.

Shadid estimated it would be months before any ground-breaking happens on the site. A spokesperson for the City of Edmond said the plans for the development of the lot were still in the early stages.

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- Edmond Neighbors Upset Over Potential Grocery Store Site - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/26037851/edmond-neighbors-upset-over-potential-grocery-store-site)

Now let me say, regardless of whether or not it is a Neighborhood Market, the rendering looks very nice.

I just find it funny about this world class development going on here:

McDonalds: We're in!

Walmart: We're in!

City planners: Yeap, this is all shaping up very nicely!!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

Now, at this point I'm not going to say whether or not I'm for or against this development, but this comment has to be the most stereo typical Edmondnite crap out there


“We don't want it, it's going to cause problems, it's going to cause security issues and it's going to ruin our beautiful way of life,” homeowner Kelly Black explained.

"we don't want it" "it's going to cause problems and security issues".... this is what irritates me the most. baseless comments that aren't backed up by anything but opinions. Now if this is a Walmart Neighborhood Market, then I can completely understand this ladies statements, but what if it is Crest? What about Tom Thumb? What about Reasors? Whole Foods? We don't anything about this development yet other than it is a mid-sized grocery store(smaller than most full sized Walmarts, Tom Thumbs, Crests etc) and where it is going. We don't know the site plan, haven't seen the full renderings, and already we have people complaining about lower property values and increased crime. This is absurd.

But boooooy I bet you if a church were to build here, it'd be praised. Even though it would increase traffic significantly and pay no taxes, people would drool over it.

people should do a little bit more research before you buy your slice of paradise next to zoned commercial. Don't feel sorry for you.

Also, every other suburb has those kinds of people. Not just edmond.

people should do a little bit more research before you buy your slice of paradise next to zoned commercial. Don't feel sorry for you.

Also, every other suburb has those kinds of people. Not just edmond.yeah, well, Edmond has no shortage of "those kinds of people", I'll put it that way. I have family that has developed projects in other suburbs in Dallas, Houston, SA, Fresno, KC, and I've heard while there is some opposition, there is nowhere near the amount of antidevelopment efforts there as there is here in Edmond.

Also, in defense of their case, I don't believe that area was zoned commercial when the houses were built and they fought that change as well. Could be wrong on that, but that is what I remember.

The story says the land has been zoned commercial for years, so I have less sympathy. I get more upset when someone changes residential or office into commercial. I do think the homeowners have the right to have their concerns addressed, such as traffic capacity, retaining walls, trees, etc. That's the nice thing about this process, is it does force developers to be part of the neighborhood, and not just bulldoze and throw up an ugly shopping center. Look at what used to happen in Edmond. Kelly West shopping center, 33rd and Blvd, etc. Very ugly, blah, development with massive parking lots. I'm not real thrilled with how 15th and I-35 turned out either, but it's nicer.

I wouldn't say there is anti development. Just wanting quality development. And to some Walmart isn't quality, which is fine. As far as traffic covell is about to be widened through here anyway so that will squash/create traffic regardless.

As far as 15th and i35, I think that area will pop soon now that both hospitals are up and running. I do think the exit ramps need to be reconfigured though but don't know how due to access roads being 2 way streets

Looking at history, yeah, it looks like it's been zoned commercial for 24 years...

Council approves extension | News OK (http://newsok.com/council-approves-extension/article/2720436)

Now, I will say, in the homeowners' defense, if you look at the city minutes and the news stories, they've never outright opposed commercial construction... they've always just wanted some reassurances and concerns addressed, each time the PUD was extended. Shadid always responded that the PUD wasn't the time to address these concerns, and that they would be addressed when a specific site plan was created (which seems to be the time now).

The story says the land has been zoned commercial for years, so I have less sympathy. I get more upset when someone changes residential or office into commercial. I do think the homeowners have the right to have their concerns addressed, such as traffic capacity, retaining walls, trees, etc. That's the nice thing about this process, is it does force developers to be part of the neighborhood, and not just bulldoze and throw up an ugly shopping center. Look at what used to happen in Edmond. Kelly West shopping center, 33rd and Blvd, etc. Very ugly, blah, development with massive parking lots. I'm not real thrilled with how 15th and I-35 turned out either, but it's nicer.
This, we can agree on.

I wouldn't say there is anti development. Just wanting quality development. And to some Walmart isn't quality, which is fine. As far as traffic covell is about to be widened through here anyway so that will squash/create traffic regardless.

As far as 15th and i35, I think that area will pop soon now that both hospitals are up and running. I do think the exit ramps need to be reconfigured though but don't know how due to access roads being 2 way streetswe'll see. I hope you're right. Reasors is still fighting to open up a grocery store at Spring Creek. That is a quality development.

Like I said, if this a Walmart, then I can definitely understand their concerns, but perhaps we should wait and see what is proposed before people get pissed about it.

I wouldn't say there is anti development. Just wanting quality development. And to some Walmart isn't quality, which is fine. As far as traffic covell is about to be widened through here anyway so that will squash/create traffic regardless.

As far as 15th and i35, I think that area will pop soon now that both hospitals are up and running. I do think the exit ramps need to be reconfigured though but don't know how due to access roads being 2 way streetsbtw... Edmond is looking at doing a complete reconfiguration of the service roads, making them one way, 2-3 lanes each direction, rebuilding all the interchanges along i35. A service road extension is being looked at as well. This study is being funded from surplus tax revenue. I created a thread about that.

Just like every major development in the OKC area it has to be anchored by a McDonalds and a Wal-Mart.

It doesn't look too bad from the renderings though. Wal-Mart Neighborhood Markets have come quite a ways from what they used to be. You are right though, Edmond NIMBY's will oppose any development other than possibly a Lifechurch.

Fairfax golf course is in the process of building a new #18 hole west/NW from its current spot, where the tee box starts just west of #17 green and curls around and finishes right by the clubhouse. they are moving the range to the east.

I dunno if it is part of this master plan on sooner and covell but that itself is freeing up a lot of space for that NW corner.

we'll see. I hope you're right. Reasors is still fighting to open up a grocery store at Spring Creek. That is a quality development.

Like I said, if this a Walmart, then I can definitely understand their concerns, but perhaps we should wait and see what is proposed before people get pissed about it.

I think Reasors has backed out. I believe right now its Sooner Investment trying to find a grocery tenant to anchor the development. There is no fighting with the city or neighbors at the moment because Sooner hasnt been able to secure a lease/commitment yet.

I think Reasors has backed out. I believe right now its Sooner Investment trying to find a grocery tenant to anchor the development. There is no fighting with the city or neighbors at the moment because Sooner hasnt been able to secure a lease/commitment yet.

That is unfortunate. The OKC area could really use a grocery store like that. People need to realize that development is part of living in a growing community. If they want 100% peace and quiet all hours of the day and no traffic they need to move far out into rural territory where there is no chance of there ever being development. The Spring Creek area as well as the Covell corridor has houses going up like weeds. Its inevitable that there will eventually be more retail. Residents need to accept that fact.

There aren't any houses going up in spring creek area (unless you count that neighborhood that has been an ongoing process for years now a mile south). That area has been established for quite some time.

There aren't any houses going up in spring creek area (unless you count that neighborhood that has been an ongoing process for years now a mile south). That area has been established for quite some time.

Yet people still fire up a storm anytime anybody wants to build any retail in that area because it might cause noise and create traffic.

well those people are idiots because noise and traffic have been there for 10+ years.

well those people are idiots because noise and traffic have been there for 10+ years.

There are apparently enough idiots to cause an upscale (by OKC standards) grocery chain to give up trying to enter the market after years of fighting.

well if they are scared of what some idiots say about entering the market then they shouldn't be here. people will shop there and it will be successful. makes me think something else behind the scenes derailed it.

It would be really nice if this area got a nice movie theater, either a Warren or Cine-mark like 'The Tulsa.' I would also love an On Cue at that corner. I get off the highway there and drive to Kelly and Coffee Creek, never passing a gas station, really weird after living in Tulsa where there is a QT on every other corner.

It would also be great if we could get a Life Time Fitness in that area, but I am not holding my breathe on that one :(.


There are apparently enough idiots to cause an upscale (by OKC standards) grocery chain to give up trying to enter the market after years of fighting.

I used to shop at Reaser's all the time, and I would take Crest over them in a heart beat. Crest is cheaper, has better produce/meat, selection and is kept up much nicer - at least the one at 15th and Santa Fe. I am all for options, but I don't think Reaser's really offers anything (upscale-wise) we don't already have in Edmond.

getting sick of this f#cking town somtimes. It seems the Crest may not be built now here. Whenever something nice is proposed, it usually doesn't happen or gets scaled down. Sucks.


Diana Baldwin 2:15 p.m. Sad news is that Crest grocery may not build at Covell and Interstate 35. The city and developers are still working to exchange locations for the hotel and conference center.

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So many good things that are proposed or speculated for this area... movie theater, nice gas station, laser tag arcade, upscale sports bar, possible enclosed mall, Crest, and another upscale grocer that isn't in OKC but I can't mention right now. Now the Crest likely won't happen because people flip sh*t over developments taking place in a major metro area. I wouldn't be surprised if a good majority of that didn't happen.

What do we have confirmed? A sports complex for schools, low end Marriott, McDonalds.... and possibly another Walmart.

I realize this is water under the bridge at this point, but I still don't understand why Edmond is actively encouraging sprawl by providing incentives to build out this area. Is a large scale hotel and convention center still going in at this intersection? Why aren't we creating a stronger center by encouraging those developments around downtown/UCO? While many suburb across the country build new urbanist faux town centers to create a sense of place, Edmond turns it's back on its existing and authentic good bones. (I know there are efforts going on in downtown Edmond, but what if this activity was also there?) 2 steps forward, 1 back. Oh well.

How many times does something changed when first initially planned? Not in just Edmond, but okc and elsewhere. Stuff happens. And the only time people have flipped over anything in this area is when the wally world market was proposed a mile to the west of here. I know people who were ecstatic about the crest going in. Esp since they have modified Fairfax golf course in order for the corner to be opened up for development. So if anything happened it seems like it was on Crests end and not anyone complaining.

And like you said, everything is proposed and speculated. No one really knows what else is going in besides the ones you mentioned. The convention center and sports complex will be a lightning rod for development in the future along I-35 down to 2nd street. No one expects this area to be a classen curve, but it has potential to be a strong economic area.

but to start cursing about things, cmon now. you seem to be getting way to worked up lately. take a deep breath, and embrace the good (and sometime bad) things that are going on up here. There are lots of things to look forward to

I realize this is water under the bridge at this point, but I still don't understand why Edmond is actively encouraging sprawl by providing incentives to build out this area. Is a large scale hotel and convention center still going in at this intersection? Why aren't we creating a stronger center by encouraging those developments around downtown/UCO? While many suburb across the country build new urbanist faux town centers to create a sense of place, Edmond turns it's back on its existing and authentic good bones. (I know there are efforts going on in downtown Edmond, but what if this activity was also there?) 2 steps forward, 1 back. Oh well.

mainly because there isn't much room in downtown Edmond for a hotel and convention center. and access to I-35 is more desirable because of almost a guarantee of rooms being occupied if a convention isn't in town. plus it will be near the sports complex which is looking to become a regional hub