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JoninATX 01-24-2024, 11:34 AM My my how much Dallas has changed
90's
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Today:
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JoninATX 01-24-2024, 11:46 AM What City Place would have looked like fully built out.
https://dmn-dallas-news-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/cN5kmM9R1qRpwtJ2hshSCXJl9sk=/1660x0/smart/filters:no_upscale()/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-dmn.s3.amazonaws.com/public/WZ6E2FDG5LC6J7VEKL6XUMABLY.jpg
Dallas had a lot of great proposals during the 80's before the bust.
progressiveboy 01-24-2024, 12:42 PM Another company establishing HQ's in Plano. A Swedish company that has to do with advanced Security knowledge. DFW is becoming more and more an international city.
https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2024/01/23/assa-abloy-plano-sweden-security.html
progressiveboy 01-24-2024, 12:50 PM It seems Dallas (DFW) continues with long term sustainability. It seems like it would weather a prolonged downturn in it's economy. The surprising thing is Dallas is becoming more expensive that Chicago and nearing cost of New York.
Shortsyeararound 01-24-2024, 09:01 PM Oh how I miss Deep Ellum of the early to mid 90's. What a fantastic playground for a kid from Okc.
_Cramer_ 01-25-2024, 09:22 AM Dallas will most likely be hosting the 2026 World Cup Final: https://www.axios.com/local/dallas/2024/01/18/dallas-world-cup-final-2026-texas
They really need DART or at least a southern TEXRail line south from DFW Airport out to Arlington along I-30 or close to. No mass-transit options are going to make travel for attendees a nightmare.
mugofbeer 01-27-2024, 09:17 PM IIRC, Arlington opted out of DART and the tax in order to build the sports stadiums
Triggerman 02-05-2024, 11:06 AM The Dallas area will host the most matches of any city during the 2026 FIFA Men's World Cup
https://www.axios.com/local/dallas/2024/02/04/world-cup-host-city-2026
But Arlington and AT&T Stadium lost out to NY/NJ for the Final game
JoninATX 02-28-2024, 11:14 AM A monster boom is taking shape in Dallas’ Uptown and Turtle Creek areas
Twenty major real estate developments are underway or proposed near Dallas’ Uptown and Turtle Creek areas.
The area north of downtown Dallas that includes Uptown, Victory Park and Turtle Creek is seeing an unprecedented building boom.
More than $2 billion in buildings are on the way in almost two dozen major projects. Some of the largest developments include major employment centers for Goldman Sachs and Bank of America.
At the same time, developers are working on high-rise residential buildings for both renters and buyers.
19 high-rise projects listed in the article (some with multiple buildings) and one mid-rise apartment with retail.
Current pic of 23Springs and 2811 Maple going up in Uptown
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Source: Dallas Morning News
Hanover Turtle Creek U/C - 1 of 2 towers planned
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Paywall $ https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2024/02/25/a-monster-boom-is-taking-shape-in-dallas-uptown-and-turtle-creek-areas/
JoninATX 02-28-2024, 11:35 AM Parkside Tower Site prep
https://www.corgan.com/sites/default/files/styles/open_graph/public/2022-10/CAM_01_websmall.jpg?h=285c57b5&itok=B7RItSg8
Webcam: https://app.oxblue.com/cameras/5dc4d7ada1a470b12c4a2a4dcb4debe6?openlink=kdc/parkside3
Triggerman 02-29-2024, 03:14 PM Good grief that's a lot. I hope most of them will be built and not just end being being empty announcements......
JoninATX 03-06-2024, 03:02 PM Good grief that's a lot. I hope most of them will be built and not just end being being empty announcements......
I'm thinking we'll see at least half end up getting built.
TornadoKegan 03-12-2024, 05:20 PM Reunion tower is at risk of coming down.If high speed rails constructed according to one source
TornadoKegan 03-12-2024, 05:21 PM https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/politics/reunion-tower-could-be-sacrificed-dallas-high-speed-rail-plan/287-08706a39-e74f-4913-842c-a3452c8192b0
Mountaingoat 03-12-2024, 09:56 PM Reunion tower is at risk of coming down.If high speed rails constructed according to one source
I don't think this makes sense. The tower could make a pretty cool centerpiece of a rail station. Redevelop the hotel into a more multi-use project. Is this a means to Hunt trying to get some government funding?
TornadoKegan 03-12-2024, 10:12 PM I don't think this makes sense. The tower could make a pretty cool centerpiece of a rail station. Redevelop the hotel into a more multi-use project. Is this a means to Hunt trying to get some government funding?
I definitely see that as a possibility
UrbanistPoke 03-14-2024, 01:03 PM I don't think this makes sense. The tower could make a pretty cool centerpiece of a rail station. Redevelop the hotel into a more multi-use project. Is this a means to Hunt trying to get some government funding?
Most likely Hunt is just pushing to get the rail line built via tunnel. I don't disagree that if it's an elevated line that it would do nothing to help that area of downtown. They are most certainly being dramatic about having to 'tear it down' if the line is built but that's one way to light a fire under random people and city leaders though is to threaten that.
I lived a few blocks north of this area for a while and have stayed in the hotel several times. It's already cut off from the rest of downtown due to the current rail lines, adding elevated tracks would be terrible for the west end of downtown. Plus having the massive highways just to the west. It would make more sense to bury the tracks than do elevated through downtown Dallas.
Triggerman 04-17-2024, 01:37 PM https://www.yahoo.com/news/dfw-airport-falls-no-3-162058891.html
Dubai (DXB) passes DFW by 5 million passengers last year (82M vs 87M)
1.Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta: 104.7M passengers
2.Dubai: 87M passengers
3.Dallas/Fort Worth: 81.8M passengers
4.London Heathrow, UK: 79.2M passengers
5.Tokyo Haneda, Japan: 78.7M passengers
progressiveboy 06-06-2024, 11:10 AM Dallas is creating a new Texas stock exchange. Hoping to make the city the "financial center of the South". They will be in competition with NYSE and Nasdaq.
https://dallasinnovates.com/dallas-gets-bullish-texas-stock-exchange-to-launch-with-120m-locking-horns-with-nyse-nasdaq/
Bowser214 06-08-2024, 07:28 AM They're calling it Y'all Street. lol.
TornadoKegan 06-13-2024, 10:59 PM They really need DART or at least a southern TEXRail line south from DFW Airport out to Arlington along I-30 or close to. No mass-transit options are going to make travel for attendees a nightmare.
I Rode DART Earlier this week. It is pretty solid and they need to bring commuter rail to okc
Triggerman 06-18-2024, 01:20 PM Netflix to Open Massive Entertainment, Dining and Shopping in Dallas in 2025
Netflix has announced the first two cities for its gigantic new in-person experience venues, slated to open in 2025.
They’re not exactly theme parks, but the new Netflix Houses — to open next year in King of Prussia, PA, and Dallas — will feature a wide array of shopping outlets, eateries and experiential activities tied to the streamer’s major franchises like “Bridgerton,” “Stranger Things” and “Squid Game.
The Dallas location will open at the Galleria Dallas spanning more than 100,000 sq ft.
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Triggerman 08-11-2024, 07:04 PM TIAA to move over 1,000 jobs, corporate office to Frisco. The New York City-based financial services company will be shuttering the doors to its Denver offices to make way for its North Texas move.
The financial firm is reportedly closing its downtown Denver offices in 2026 as it prepares to move its offices to The Star in Frisco, close to the Dallas Cowboys’ training facility, and potentially adding 1,000 jobs to the area.
TIAA did not immediately respond to an interview request from The Dallas Morning News.
TIAA is one of the largest financial firms in the country as it manages $1.3 trillion in assets for 4.7 million people and 12,000 institutional clients like universities and nonprofits. It’s a move which will force TIAA to end its Denver lease before it was supposed to in 2029, but is expected to save the company money.
“Closing TIAA’s Denver office in 2026, instead of when the lease ends in 2029, will provide substantial savings in rent and operational costs — savings which TIAA can then invest in business needs and serve the best interests of our clients,” TIAA said in a statement.
TIAA currently employs approximately 1,000 people at its Denver office and many will be given the option to relocate to North Texas if they’d like.
“We made this announcement now to give our associates as much notice as we could,” the company said.
progressiveboy 10-25-2024, 03:44 PM Another California Exodus to DFW, specifically Plano, TX. DFW is on fire with these moves. Texas is not afraid to court business to their State!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/smallbusiness/another-tech-firm-relocates-us-headquarters-from-california-to-north-texas/ar-AA1sNSVq#:~:text=A%20global%20tech%20company%20is, Dallas%20North%20Tollway%20and%20121.
warreng88 10-25-2024, 03:55 PM Looks like last year the DFW area surpassed Houston as the fourth largest in the country (right behind NYC, LA and Chicago). Wouldn't surprise me if it just Chicago in the next five years.
progressiveboy 10-25-2024, 04:09 PM Looks like last year the DFW area surpassed Houston as the fourth largest in the country (right behind NYC, LA and Chicago). Wouldn't surprise me if it just Chicago in the next five years. Although, I miss living in DFW, family obligations brought me back to OKC, I do not miss the traffic. It is quite brutal and is getting worse by the year and is taxing their infrastructure in a big way.
bison34 10-25-2024, 04:10 PM Another California Exodus to DFW, specifically Plano, TX. DFW is on fire with these moves. Texas is not afraid to court business to their State!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/smallbusiness/another-tech-firm-relocates-us-headquarters-from-california-to-north-texas/ar-AA1sNSVq#:~:text=A%20global%20tech%20company%20is, Dallas%20North%20Tollway%20and%20121.
Might as well burn Oklahoma to the ground.
progressiveboy 10-25-2024, 04:12 PM Might as well burn Oklahoma to the ground. Haha! Maybe Texas can teach Oklahoma how it is done! lol.
mugofbeer 10-27-2024, 11:09 PM TIAA to move over 1,000 jobs, corporate office to Frisco. The New York City-based financial services company will be shuttering the doors to its Denver offices to make way for its North Texas move.
The financial firm is reportedly closing its downtown Denver offices in 2026 as it prepares to move its offices to The Star in Frisco, close to the Dallas Cowboys’ training facility, and potentially adding 1,000 jobs to the area.
TIAA did not immediately respond to an interview request from The Dallas Morning News.
TIAA is one of the largest financial firms in the country as it manages $1.3 trillion in assets for 4.7 million people and 12,000 institutional clients like universities and nonprofits. It’s a move which will force TIAA to end its Denver lease before it was supposed to in 2029, but is expected to save the company money.
“Closing TIAA’s Denver office in 2026, instead of when the lease ends in 2029, will provide substantial savings in rent and operational costs — savings which TIAA can then invest in business needs and serve the best interests of our clients,” TIAA said in a statement.
TIAA currently employs approximately 1,000 people at its Denver office and many will be given the option to relocate to North Texas if they’d like.
“We made this announcement now to give our associates as much notice as we could,” the company said.
This is very bad for Denver which is being played down as significant. I know several who work there and are hoping to get a full move package to a less expensive location. TIAA is traditionally a spendthrift employer so everyone is holding their breaths.
Triggerman 10-28-2024, 11:33 AM Looks like last year the DFW area surpassed Houston as the fourth largest in the country (right behind NYC, LA and Chicago). Wouldn't surprise me if it just Chicago in the next five years.
What metric did you get this from? if you look at the official US Census data, DFW surpassed Greater Houston in 1980 and hasn't looked back since. And the 2023 Census estimates placed DFW at 8.1 million and Greater Houston at 7.6 million.
progressiveboy 11-01-2024, 04:39 PM Yet another company's HQ moving to DFW !!!
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/technology/2024/10/30/billion-dollar-company-moves-headquarters-to-north-texas-from-new-jersey/#:~:text=Diversified%2C%20which%20specializes%20in %20audiovisual,New%20Jersey%2C%20a%20spokesperson% 20said.
bison34 11-01-2024, 04:45 PM I wish we had 10 million people in an area the size of Delaware :( 75% can't spell their own name, but the other 25% make up for it by having 2.5 million people who can.
Plutonic Panda 11-01-2024, 06:29 PM There’s no way to put this, but Dallas is just an absolute beast. I think at this point we should just be really grateful that such a huge economic engine is so close to Oklahoma. I don’t fully understand the history as to how Dallas got the way it did and I’ve lived there. But it looks like Texas is on par to surpass California at some point in time with its growth in economic GDP.
Urbanized 11-01-2024, 08:23 PM There are many factors, and I’m certain that my theory is too simplistic, but my personal belief is that the tipping point - the moment where Dallas switched from a regional player to a global player - was in 1979, when American Airlines relocated its corporate HQ from NYC to DFW.
scottk 11-01-2024, 08:32 PM There are many factors, and I’m certain that my theory is too simplistic, but my personal belief is that the tipping point - the moment where Dallas switched from a regional player to a global player - was in 1979, when American Airlines relocated its corporate HQ from NYC to DFW.
I think there are many factors, and DFW Airport being able to grow and serve as a hub for American, and also American and Southwest having HQ in Dallas. There are also many other HQ's for Fortune 500 companies.
You also have to wonder how much things like Dallas the TV Show in the 80's, the Cowboy's dominance in the 90's, a vast highway network, diversified economies between Dallas and Forth Worth, and generally good weather help promote people moving to the city.
Rover 11-02-2024, 08:44 AM There’s no way to put this, but Dallas is just an absolute beast. I think at this point we should just be really grateful that such a huge economic engine is so close to Oklahoma. I don’t fully understand the history as to how Dallas got the way it did and I’ve lived there. But it looks like Texas is on par to surpass California at some point in time with its growth in economic GDP.
Dallas to us is like LA is to Phoenix. At a point, Dallas’s size, congestion, and cost will push even more to OKC. We need to look at more ways to be complementary and not competitive.
Urbanized 11-02-2024, 09:00 AM My point is that I’m pretty sure that you can connect the rise of Fortune 500 company relocations to Dallas to its emergence as THE hub for American (plus the birth and growth of homegrown Southwest). You can fly direct to Dallas from pretty much anywhere, and that’s become a major factor in most corporate relocations. And make no mistake, most of the Fortune 500 companies in Dallas relocated there from someplace else.
After the accessibility consideration the other factors come into play; taxation structure/environment, proximity to major (large-enrollment) institutions of higher learning, the relative cost and availability of real estate, and on and on. DFW is unique in this region and unusual nationally in its combined offerings in many of these categories, but I really believe the steroid-fueled economic development watershed moment was the arrival of American Airlines.
Triggerman 11-04-2024, 02:51 PM Dallas to us is like LA is to Phoenix. At a point, Dallas’s size, congestion, and cost will push even more to OKC. We need to look at more ways to be complementary and not competitive.
DFW Airport is massive indeed, how many domestic and international destinations do they have now? New destinations coming up: American: Venice, Tampico, Brisbane; CATHAY PACIFIC: Hong Kong; FIJI : Nadi. Also, Air India is very close to announcing DELHI; and buzz circulating that EVA will start DFW-TPE.
Urbanized 11-04-2024, 05:39 PM Dallas to us is like LA is to Phoenix. At a point, Dallas’s size, congestion, and cost will push even more to OKC. We need to look at more ways to be complementary and not competitive.
If we were ever included in an HSR line between Dallas and literally anywhere else the population and economy of OKC would experience explosive growth. Not all good growth, most likely, but everything would suddenly be on steroids here.
Triggerman 11-21-2024, 08:03 AM DFW Airport Building Its 6th Terminal
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/dfw-international-airport-breaks-ground-terminal-f/3701218/
DFW will now have 6 Terminals , A-F.
Dallaz 12-11-2024, 06:32 PM Full flyover video of the Dallas urban core on the skyscrapers sub.
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyscrapers/s/fNvnLusiNN
I am pretty sure this video is where the pics quoted comes from. They match perfectly. Also, there's a view of Knox-Henderson as well. The video shows a lot of ongoing infill and the potential for even more. Best video that shows all the areas north of Downtown being connected.
Screenshots - with a few projects U/C in red and planned in black
Links that corresponds to the pics are in the reddit comments. I think most of this has been covered already and is just for people who want more info. Too lazy to post all of them here
https://www.city-data.com/forum/members/dallaz-1003772-albums-pictures-pic169661-img-7606.jpeg
https://www.city-data.com/forum/members/dallaz-1003772-albums-pictures-pic169676-img-7608.jpeg
https://www.city-data.com/forum/members/dallaz-1003772-albums-pictures-pic169656-img-7608.jpeg
https://www.city-data.com/forum/members/dallaz-1003772-albums-pictures-pic169696-img-7605.jpeg
Dallaz 12-13-2024, 07:23 PM 'Y'all Street': Here's where the temporary home of the Texas Stock Exchange will be this spring
The Texas Stock Exchange is opening in a temporary location in Dallas as it searches for a permanent HQ, to be called Texas Market Center.
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/dallas-county/texas-stock-exchange-temporary-home-this-spring/287-f82c2c6a-2ea4-4adc-a624-daa74afdd9b0
Dallaz 12-20-2024, 10:52 AM Recent aerial view posted in the Dallas sub (https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/s/Cj0PgOGQeN)
This is a screenshot of the 3rd pic. It’s slightly sharpened so you can see the buildings a little better.
Black is existing buildings and yellow are a few projects underway
https://www.city-data.com/forum/members/dallaz-1003772-albums-pictures-pic169837-sharpened.jpeg
New Bank of America Tower (450 ft) (https://www.parksideuptown.com)
23Springs (399 ft) (https://23springs.com)
2811 Maple (372 ft) (https://crescent.com/portfolio/the-residences-at-2811-maple/)
The Oliver at The Central (19 stories) (https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallasdevelopment/s/q1TaVeqIm4)
Rosewood Residence Turtle Creek (17 stories) (https://residencesturtlecreek.com)
Goldman Sachs at NorthEnd (1st phase/14 stories) - (2nd phase tallest buildings 620 ft and 560 ft) (https://www.studiotill.com/dallas-north-end)
AC/Moxy Hotel - 223 ft (https://dallasinnovates.com/state-of-the-art-dual-branded-hotel-gets-a-groundbreaking-in-uptown-dallas/)
A new article from the Dallas Morning News talks about the definition of Downtown changing because of all of the new development. Eventually, ppl will call this entire area “downtown”. I made a map of Dallas’ emerging connected urban core. (https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/s/fBCtSzQUQD)
Your idea of downtown’s location may not be the same as everyone else’s
New residents may not know strict definitions, even as efforts persist to connect different areas. (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/2024/12/18/your-idea-of-where-downtown-is-may-not-be-the-same-as-everyone-elses/)
More people today may care about the future of downtown Dallas — but sometimes it feels like many of them have a different take on where the heart of the city is. With over 1 million people joining North Texas since 2010, many ideas are in flux about what sidewalks, buildings and parks are within downtown borders. And that’s not about to change amid our growth.
That said, there are some traditional, agreed-upon limits for downtown with key highways: I-35E, I-30, 75 and 366. It makes for a simple and clear downtown.
But no one’s handing out these maps to folks when they arrive in the city’s core. So, a Plano resident driving through Uptown could see tall, glass-covered buildings and associate them with the core’s skyscrapers. Klyde Warren Park helps connect the two areas as well. Then there’s nearby Deep Ellum.
And don’t forget Victory Park with its modern vibe or the Cedars with some of its developments. The Design District shouldn’t be ignored either.
But while ideas can vary, the development of different areas points to something bigger: “I think what we’re seeing, especially the last 10 years, is the emergence of, really a more urban Dallas,” said Andrew Matheny, senior research manager at Cushman & Wakefield.
These are part of bigger plans that connect the different areas as “Dallas’ city center is a unique collection of diverse, vibrant neighborhoods that have shaped the rich history of the city.”
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