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Sic'EmBears
07-18-2017, 07:23 PM
Residences at Park District (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=210893), from PwC Tower:

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Park District (https://www.facebook.com/ParkDistrictDallas/)

Sic'EmBears
07-19-2017, 06:29 PM
Planned mixed-use project of nearly 275 acres would be one of the first along I-20 (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2017/07/19/planned-mixed-use-project-one-first-far-south-dallas)

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Project Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.6540154,-96.7881692,3258m/data=!3m1!1e3)


Centurion American Development Group is getting approvals for the almost 275-acre project at I-20 and Lancaster Road. The development would include sites for construction of townhouses, apartments, retail, office and hotels.

A preliminary site plan shows that the retail and commercial construction would be concentrated at the south end of the property near I-20.

Townhouses and apartments would be built at the north end of the heavily wooded tract near the DART light rail Blue Line.

Centurion American's planned development is just southeast of the University of North Texas' southern Dallas campus and is adjacent to a DART commuter rail station.

Homes in the project would be within walking distance of the transit line, according to city planners.

Sic'EmBears
07-22-2017, 12:51 AM
Texas' fourth, DFW's third, Equinox Fitness club to open at Willow Bend in Plano.

This Texas Mall Fights Back with a Luxe Gym, Celeb Chef Restaurants and a Kids Theme Park

It’s All Part of $125 Million Expansion (http://www.papercitymag.com/fashion/plano-shops-willow-bend-new-equinox-gym-crayola-experience-john-tesar-knife-renovation/)

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The mall is adding upscale lifestyle fitness club Equinox to its growing roster of attractions. The popular and controversial fitness empire will open a location in the Shops at Willow Bend come fall 2018.

The upcoming Equinox will occupy a 35,000-square-foot space on the south side of the mall, next to Restoration Hardware, Neiman Marcus, and Crate & Barrel.
The club will offer a wide selection of fitness programs, such as strength and cardio training, cutting-edge group classes, and personal training.

There will also be a number of lifestyle-focused programs, services, and products. Members will have access to food and juice bars, apparel shops, and spa services and goods.

The luxurious gym will be complete with a large rooftop deck for special events and programming.

Sic'EmBears
07-23-2017, 02:47 PM
DFW places second, only behind NYC, in apartment delivery for 2017.

Via Rent Cafe (https://www.rentcafe.com/blog/rental-market/us-apartment-construction-at-a-20-year-high-in-2017/):


Dallas-Fort Worth, the job-centric Texas mega-hub that has seen the largest population increases in the entire country, adding approx. 143K new residents from 2015 to 2016, is second when it comes to new apartment supply.

No less than 25,000 new units are planned for completion this year, making Dallas even more desirable for renters who seek affordability and variety in their housing choices. The local rental market is relatively stable with rent growth at a moderate 3.5% y-o-y. Average rents in the Metroplex hover around $1,094, significantly lower than the national average and half of what New Yorkers shell out on rent on a monthly basis.

Moreover, with a diverse economic sector and steady job growth, the employment picture is rock-solid in D-FW, so it’s no wonder young professionals are arriving in droves.

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Candys Dirt (https://candysdirt.com/2017/07/17/dfw-close-second-nyc-apartment-building-boom/)

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Sic'EmBears
07-23-2017, 10:34 PM
Park District (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=210893):

PwC Tower (right), Residences at Park District (left)

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Residences at Park District

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Sic'EmBears
07-24-2017, 10:23 PM
2728 Welborn (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=7874727#post7874727):

Approved by Oak Lawn Committee.

Now to City Council.

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Sic'EmBears
07-25-2017, 04:07 PM
New business park on D/FW Airport's south end is in planning stage (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2017/07/25/major-business-park-set-dfw-airport-site)

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Project Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8392461,-97.0261225,757m/data=!3m1!1e3)


Bandera Ventures has leased more than 86 acres from DFW Airport on State Highway 183.

The office and industrial builder plans to construct a 5-building, 1.4 million square foot industrial complex on the property, according to filings with the airport board.

The proposed Gateway Logistics Center buildings will be the first constructed in a new development on the south side of the airport.

North Texas has been one of the fastest growing distribution and warehouse markets in the country during the last few years.

Net leasing for industrial buildings in the Dallas-Fort Worth area has totaled more than 12 million square feet so far this year.

Sic'EmBears
07-26-2017, 02:53 PM
Construction kicks off on renovations to Dallas' historic Ambassador Hotel (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2017/07/25/construction-kicks-historic-ambassador-hotel-renovations)

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Project Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7723245,-96.7905616,3a,75y,352.92h,85.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOflbLTe0ZtgiFpdIBF9uww!2e0!7i1 3312!8i6656)


The landmark Ambassador Hotel just south of downtown is Dallas' oldest surviving hotel building.

Built in 1905, the 6-story building on Ervay Street is owned by a partnership headed by developer Jim Lake Jr.

"We are officially underway."

"The outside will not change," Lake said. "The public areas will not change — we will restore all those. It gets all new infrastructure."

A ground-level swimming pool, retail space on the first floor and tenant amenities including a lounge are part of the plans for the building.

"We are working with Dallas Heritage Village next door to have a connection to them," Lake said. "We are working with the city to abandon St. Paul Street behind the building."

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Sic'EmBears
07-26-2017, 10:39 PM
Home goods retailer shopping Dallas area for new shipping hub (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2017/07/25/home-goods-retailer-shopping-dallas-area-new-shipping-hub)


You can add online retailer Wayfair to the growing list of ecommerce companies scouting the Dallas area for new warehouse operations.

The Boston-based furniture and home goods Internet retailer has been shopping the Interstate 20 corridor in south Dallas County for a new warehouse location.

Wayfair officials confirm they are looking for a spot in North Texas.

The Interstate 20 corridor is one of the country's fastest growing industrial and distribution markets, with new shipping hubs for Quaker Foods, BMW, Hyundai and other firms.

Sic'EmBears
07-26-2017, 10:49 PM
Sources: Chinese-based home goods retailer readying massive project in Frisco (https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2017/07/22/sources-chinese-based-home-goods-retailer-readying.html)

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Auburn, NSW, AU (Signature PM (http://www.signaturepm.com.au/projects))


A Chinese manufacturer of building materials, hardware and home goods is readying plans to make way for a massive retail hub along the U.S. 380 corridor in Frisco, sources say.

The real estate rumblings come after an affiliate of Lesso America Inc., a subsidiary of China Lesso Group Holdings Ltd., acquired two tracts of land totaling more than 76 acres in Frisco for a new mall development site in June 2016.

Real estate sources say Lesso America is working on plans to build a multi-story retail center that would be a hybrid between an Ikea and a Home Depot with a focus on serving the growing North Texas suburbs.

If developed, this could be one of the first Lesso Mall developments to appear in the United States.

"There's no doubt there's a growing population in this part of the region that could handle a store like this," said Reimer, who works with numerous retailers searching for land sites for storefronts along the corridor.

Plutonic Panda
07-26-2017, 11:15 PM
I get excited about things going on in OKC and then I see what's happening in Dallas. Wow wow wow....

TxDOT is also upgrading SH-121 in McKinney to fully controlled 4 lane facility which will be really nice.

OUman
07-27-2017, 12:06 AM
^To be honest, comparing Oklahoma City to Dallas by itself is like comparing apples to oranges. Two completely different markets. Then you look at the entire Dallas-Ft. Worth area and its 7 million+ population... yeah. And the traffic is just as bad for a reason. For Oklahoma City, what we have going right now is pretty decent in my opinion, I certainly like growth but I don't want another Dallas here. I am quite excited with what we have coming up, with new hotels and apartments being built in Bricktown, the new park, etc.

ChrisHayes
07-27-2017, 05:31 AM
While I don't want us to be another Dallas I'd like to have a good 5-10 year burst of Dallas type of growth. Hopefully the park can get something going around the Core to Shore area. I still think the only thing holding us back is the state budge and maybe educational issues.

Plutonic Panda
07-27-2017, 03:15 PM
^To be honest, comparing Oklahoma City to Dallas by itself is like comparing apples to oranges. Two completely different markets. Then you look at the entire Dallas-Ft. Worth area and its 7 million+ population... yeah. And the traffic is just as bad for a reason. For Oklahoma City, what we have going right now is pretty decent in my opinion, I certainly like growth but I don't want another Dallas here. I am quite excited with what we have coming up, with new hotels and apartments being built in Bricktown, the new park, etc.To be quite honest, I've never understood what people mean when they say "I don't OKC to be another x." Reasons being, they say things like bad traffic, high cost of living, too much growth, etc. Those are all necessary evils.

So what do you mean when you say you don't want OKC to be another Dallas?

I would love OKC to be another Dallas. When I say that, I mean job growth, new infrastructure investment(new freeways and aggressive light rail construction), great trails, amazing developments, beautiful skyline, very diverse group of people(when I walk into stores around Dallas I always hear different languages being spoken and see evidence of people from all over the world, I rarely see that in OKC), corporate relocations left and right, new data centers, etc... I'm not proposing an exact clone of Dallas, I'm wanting to see OKC follow in their footsteps.

Anonymous.
07-27-2017, 03:26 PM
You are exactly right PluPan. People who say the classic "don't X my Y" are usually people viewing only the negatives that come with it (for this example, primarily traffic).

Dallas is on an amazing burst of growth right now. Austin is in the same boat on a smaller scale. If OKC could have just a sliver of that type of growth, the city would be flourishing relative to now. OKC is having great growth for its size, but we are kidding ourselves if you aren't truly jealous of the [positive] growth of these mega-cities.

That graphic on the last page showing the apartment growth being just second to NYC, is astonishing.

Sic'EmBears
07-27-2017, 03:32 PM
To be quite honest, I've never understood what people mean when they say "I don't OKC to be another x."

Same here.

Sic'EmBears
07-27-2017, 03:35 PM
EY investing $10M in downtown Dallas cybersecurity center, to employ 300 (https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2017/07/27/ey-investing-10m-in-downtown-dallas-cybersecurity.html)

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Ernst & Young said Thursday that it’s investing $10 million to expand its Dallas footprint by 14,000 square feet, as the company goes after the crowded cybersecurity market.

The new cybersecurity center will house 300 employees, with about three-fourths of them coming via new hires, said Ben Trowbridge, EY cybersecurity managed services leader and executive director. The center will get up and running in September, and execs have a goal to complete hiring within the first 12 months.

The facility will also include a 24/7 operations center, a cyber innovation center, an executive briefing center, and a “cyber range,” where clients can replicate real-world conditions during trials.

Sic'EmBears
07-27-2017, 04:04 PM
Construction begins on new Texas-style hotel in Irving's Las Colinas Urban Center (https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2017/07/27/construction-begins-on-new-texas-style-hotel-in.html)

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VBX (https://www.virtualbx.com/industry-news/24693-irving-contractor-to-be-selected-for-valencia-texican-court-hotel.html)

Project Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8768105,-96.9418049,3a,75y,348.19h,88.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snfNYTWFGrg4vfNo0pvF2JA!2e0!6s% 2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DnfNYTWFGrg4vf No0pvF2JA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_ sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26y aw%3D59.485516%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i1331 2!8i6656)


Construction started on a new Texas-style hotel next to Irving's soon-to-be-built $113 million convention center hotel that will add nearly 150 hotel rooms in the Las Colinas Urban District.

The Texas-style hotel will bring a "very cool concept" to North Texas unlike anything the region has seen before, said Michael Scheurich, CEO of Houston-based Arch-Con Corp., which designed the boutique hotel.

"It's a concept modeled after the old motor court hotels of the 1950s, where you drive up to your room with your car," Scheurich told the Dallas Business Journal.

"They created a resort and conference area that feels like you're walking into a resort when you go to this hotel," he added.

Earlier this year, construction began on the 12-story, 350-room hotel, called the Westin Irving Convention Center at Las Colinas.

The hotel is meant to complement the five-year-old convention center, which averages 305 events per year in the city.

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Ross MacLochness
07-27-2017, 04:26 PM
To be quite honest, I've never understood what people mean when they say "I don't OKC to be another x." Reasons being, they say things like bad traffic, high cost of living, too much growth, etc. Those are all necessary evils.

So what do you mean when you say you don't want OKC to be another Dallas?

I would love OKC to be another Dallas. When I say that, I mean job growth, new infrastructure investment(new freeways and aggressive light rail construction), great trails, amazing developments, beautiful skyline, very diverse group of people(when I walk into stores around Dallas I always hear different languages being spoken and see evidence of people from all over the world, I rarely see that in OKC), corporate relocations left and right, new data centers, etc... I'm not proposing an exact clone of Dallas, I'm wanting to see OKC follow in their footsteps.

It's not that people don't want to experience the level of growth or prosperity that Dallas is able to achieve, it's that we think we can do a better job handling that growth. It is possible to have Dallas levels of success without having dallas levels of auto traffic. It is possiblle to have Dallas level of growth without having to take a highway to get across the street. It is possible to have a great economic boom without contributing to the degradation of farm and prairie land by continuing to sprawl. It possible for a city to have tremendous growth and do it in a way that is more productive financially for the city than Dallas.

All the things people don't like about Dallas can be mitigated to a certain extent with good planning no matter how much growth there is. Dallas has been been growing longer than we have and have done amazing things but also made plenty of mistakes.. We can look at them and see what they have been doing right and what they have been doing wrong and then try to steer this city in a direction that we want. Saying traffic and sprawl, etc. - anything that someone might not like about dallas - are just "nessecary evils" of becoming a big city, is just lazy and not true. We are early enough in our growth that we can do a better job of handling it if we plan properly - and look to cities like Dallas as case studies.

Ross MacLochness
07-27-2017, 04:34 PM
You are exactly right PluPan. People who say the classic "don't X my Y" are usually people viewing only the negatives that come with it (for this example, primarily traffic).

Dallas is on an amazing burst of growth right now. Austin is in the same boat on a smaller scale. If OKC could have just a sliver of that type of growth, the city would be flourishing relative to now. OKC is having great growth for its size, but we are kidding ourselves if you aren't truly jealous of the [positive] growth of these mega-cities.



The growth in the core is amazing. Dallas is certainly doing good things. I love many things about dallas. However, I'm not jealous of it. For me, the negatives just outway the positives. It's the feeling I get when I go there. The sprawl, the concrete, the traffic - not for me. It's ok if that's what you like, but I don't. And I don't believe for a minute that the negatives are simply attributes of any successful city, rather they are attributes of abysmal planning that can be mitigated if OKC is careful about its growth.

Plutonic Panda
07-27-2017, 07:43 PM
You are exactly right PluPan. People who say the classic "don't X my Y" are usually people viewing only the negatives that come with it (for this example, primarily traffic).

Dallas is on an amazing burst of growth right now. Austin is in the same boat on a smaller scale. If OKC could have just a sliver of that type of growth, the city would be flourishing relative to now. OKC is having great growth for its size, but we are kidding ourselves if you aren't truly jealous of the [positive] growth of these mega-cities.

That graphic on the last page showing the apartment growth being just second to NYC, is astonishing.It really is. Part of me gets excited when I realize OKC is within mere hours of a city like that but another part gets depressed when seeing announcement after announcement for the DFW area wishing OKC could get just one or two of those developments. I love Dallas and am actually jealous that are getting some projects I'd like see in Los Angeles!

Plutonic Panda
07-27-2017, 08:05 PM
It's not that people don't want to experience the level of growth or prosperity that Dallas is able to achieve, it's that we think we can do a better job handling that growth. It is possible to have Dallas levels of success without having dallas levels of auto traffic. It is possiblle to have Dallas level of growth without having to take a highway to get across the street. It is possible to have a great economic boom without contributing to the degradation of farm and prairie land by continuing to sprawl. It possible for a city to have tremendous growth and do it in a way that is more productive financially for the city than Dallas.I'm not sure what you mean when you it is possible to have Dallas level of growth without having to take a highway to get across the street. There are times on Dart when you can barely move because the train is so packed. There are tons of places where can live, work, and play without having to use a car. Dallas is planning a subway system. Street after street in and around downtown are going through road diet projects.

So what is your issue with the city? You don't like the large suburban areas such as the northside? Areas like Plano where Toyota left SoCal for from an urban area to a suburban one citing an employee survey that saw a higher quality of life in? Why would Dallas be getting corporate relocation after corporate relocation and billion dollar developments if the single occupant automobile was so bad? Why would Uptown be listed as a millennial mega-hub with billions of dollars that has it's own skyline rivaling OKC's if wasn't walkable? Have you seen how expansive DART is? LBJ expansion has already seen billions of Dollars worth of projects around the corridor. I would say the way Dallas is developing is extremely financially productive and it will become even more so as the city gets even more dense.

What cities do you view as having Dallas level growth in the US but is doing a better job? I'd like to know. The ones I know of, Seattle, Salt Lake City, Houston, Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, etc. all of massive billion dollar highway projects in the works, have vast expansive sprawl, new freeways being built or expanded left and right, and still aren't even on Dallas's level.

Dallas is a city that is getting close to rivaling Chicago and LA. Of course you have to remember that Chicago and LA are much older and LA has the obvious advantages Dallas probably never will(minus climate change) such as the oceans, weather, etc. When you talk about a city that is on the verge of becoming an economic powerhouse for the United States, I'd say they are a great model to follow. Even cities like Chicago are seeing billion dollar freeway improvements and Chicago is about to see a slew of new freeway extensions built and new high profile widening projects. Chicago and Los Angeles are also much older than Dallas and have that advantage as well.


All the things people don't like about Dallas can be mitigated to a certain extent with good planning no matter how much growth there is. Dallas has been been growing longer than we have and have done amazing things but also made plenty of mistakes.. We can look at them and see what they have been doing right and what they have been doing wrong and then try to steer this city in a direction that we want. Saying traffic and sprawl, etc. - anything that someone might not like about dallas - are just "nessecary evils" of becoming a big city, is just lazy and not true. We are early enough in our growth that we can do a better job of handling it if we plan properly - and look to cities like Dallas as case studies.
Dallas took off in the 60's from what I understand and OKC and Dallas weren't that different. Obviously the two cities went different directions. Now I could be wrong about that as I haven't studied in depth to each city's history, but that's my understanding of it.

So say god himself comes and offers OKC a "Dallas" level boom with corporate relocations, what would you do differently? It is just the sprawl and your notion that sprawl is bad? Because the sprawl is what has made Dallas attractive. Low housing prices, low density, low traffic, etc. I mean all of those things go together. They certainly aren't relocating from California to Dallas for the weather, so why is it?

So if OKC could have Dallas's population but packed in in a non-sprawl way which would result in extreme housing prices, horrid traffic, extreme density, you think corporations would choose to relocate here from the exact same thing only with worse weather among other things? I'm not understanding what you're saying exactly. I'd like to know what you think Dallas is doing right vs. what they are doing wrong. I have an idea, but you're not being specific only point out that you think sprawl is bad and Dallas's growth is unsustainable.

Plutonic Panda
07-27-2017, 08:05 PM
The growth in the core is amazing. Dallas is certainly doing good things. I love many things about dallas. However, I'm not jealous of it. For me, the negatives just outway the positives. It's the feeling I get when I go there. The sprawl, the concrete, the traffic - not for me. It's ok if that's what you like, but I don't. And I don't believe for a minute that the negatives are simply attributes of any successful city, rather they are attributes of abysmal planning that can be mitigated if OKC is careful about its growth.

What cities do you like?

Sic'EmBears
07-28-2017, 04:43 PM
Bank to build $52M corporate headquarters in McKinney; to add 400 jobs (https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2017/07/27/bank-to-build-52m-corporate-headquarters-in.html)

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KW (http://blog.collincountyagentdiana.com/craig-ranch-mckinney-texas/)

Project Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.1339861,-96.7133909,396m/data=!3m1!1e3)


The new campus will help the $8.6 billion firm accommodate its rapidly expanding business after filing for IPO four years ago. Since filing, Independent Bank has added about 340 workers to its employee base that now totals more than 1,000 workers.

By building a bank-designed campus on a 10.4-acre tract at State Highway 121 and Grand Ranch Parkway within Craig Ranch, Independent Bank CEO David Brooks said he expects the company to continue on its upward trajectory.

"We have deep roots here and our organization has a unique opportunity to leverage the tremendous growth we've experienced since going public four years ago," Brooks said, in a statement.

From DMN (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2017/07/26/new-mckinney-bank-campus-add-1000-jobs):


The project is being planned to ultimately house as many as 1,200 workers in 400,000 square feet of offices. It will start with a 150,000-square-foot, six-story office building.

"We think we can be under construction this year," Brooks said. "We believe we will hire at least 400 net new jobs in the next five years."

The bank plans to relocate to the first new building in early 2019.

"We think we could add as many as another 1,000 employees over the next five to seven years," Brooks said. "We are going to have to compete with that new JPMorgan Chase campus in Legacy West where they are putting 6,000 jobs."

"This is on a fast track for us."

OUman
07-28-2017, 07:13 PM
To be quite honest, I've never understood what people mean when they say "I don't OKC to be another x." Reasons being, they say things like bad traffic, high cost of living, too much growth, etc. Those are all necessary evils.

So what do you mean when you say you don't want OKC to be another Dallas?

I would love OKC to be another Dallas. When I say that, I mean job growth, new infrastructure investment(new freeways and aggressive light rail construction), great trails, amazing developments, beautiful skyline, very diverse group of people(when I walk into stores around Dallas I always hear different languages being spoken and see evidence of people from all over the world, I rarely see that in OKC), corporate relocations left and right, new data centers, etc... I'm not proposing an exact clone of Dallas, I'm wanting to see OKC follow in their footsteps.

I don't want Oklahoma City to be another out-of-control boom town. Sure, Dallas has plenty of things going for it right now, but you also have to weigh the negatives with the positives. Traffic, urban sprawl, etc all have their effects. If it's managed growth, I'm all for it. What Oklahoma City has going for it right now is pretty decent for a city our size. You don't have to be another Dallas or Austin to have good quality of life, good jobs, etc.


You are exactly right PluPan. People who say the classic "don't X my Y" are usually people viewing only the negatives that come with it (for this example, primarily traffic.

Did you even read my post carefully? I was not just dwelling on the negatives, I do like what's happening in Oklahoma City a lot. Read my reply above.



Just my opinion folks.

Plutonic Panda
07-28-2017, 08:42 PM
I don't want Oklahoma City to be another out-of-control boom town. Sure, Dallas has plenty of things going for it right now, but you also have to weigh the negatives with the positives. Traffic, urban sprawl, etc all have their effects. If it's managed growth, I'm all for it. What Oklahoma City has going for it right now is pretty decent for a city our size. You don't have to be another Dallas or Austin to have good quality of life, good jobs, etc.



Did you even read my post carefully? I was not just dwelling on the negatives, I do like what's happening in Oklahoma City a lot. Read my reply above.



Just my opinion folks.
What is an out of control boom town? What criteria are you using for that definition?

OUman
07-28-2017, 11:27 PM
From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary:

Definiton of boomtown:

A town that experiences a sudden growth in business and population : a booming town

This article (https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2011/07/08/forbes-dallas-becoming-a-boom-town.html?ana=twt), although from 2011, hopefully explains it better. I mean, you don't have to believe it just because it references Forbes but then again Forbes is a respected publication.

And Austin most definitely fits the bill of a boomtown. Rapid population growth, skyrocketing prices, nightmarish traffic. What takes 30 minutes here takes well over an hour there.

That's what I meant by out-of-control. Like I said, I'm not anti-growth, I'm just anti-rapid growth. If that's a bad thing then so be it. It's my opinion and I'm sticking with it.

And I'll be happy to continue this conversation via pm, I don't want to derail the topic any further.

Plutonic Panda
07-28-2017, 11:48 PM
You just dogged my question and no I'm not going to PM you. What is your definition of an out of control boomtown? What criteria are you using for that?

OUman
07-29-2017, 08:41 AM
I didn't dodge your question. That's the definition I'm using, the one I listed above. I go by official definitions, and official publications like Forbes (which by the way, does have its own criteria for determining boom towns). I don't make up my "own" criteria.

Plutonic Panda
07-29-2017, 04:19 PM
You gave me the definition of a boomtown, not an out of control boomtown. Out of control can mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people.

OKC is already listed or has been included in lists as the next cities to become a boomtown. I believe some publications have listed it as such. If you don't want it to become a boomtown, then we can just disagree and go on about our business. You specially said an "out of control" boomtown when comparing it to Dallas and I wanted to know what you meant by that.

OUman
07-29-2017, 09:03 PM
Maybe a bad choice of words on my part, but yeah, more or less, I don't want Oklahoma City becoming a boomtown.

Sic'EmBears
07-30-2017, 10:35 PM
New York-based shared office concept to put Texas hub in Arts District (https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2017/07/27/new-york-based-shared-office-con.html)

http://hallarts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/HAexteriorprime8.15.jpg
Hall Arts (http://hallarts.com/twodfwheadquarters/)


A New York-based shared office concept is bringing its first upscale coworking concept to the Dallas Arts District with the help of Dallas developer Craig Hall, who recently invested an undisclosed sum in the company.

Along with being an investor, Hall will be the landlord for Serendipity Labs Coworking, which plans to open its 29,000-square-foot Texas hub on the 17th floor and ground floor of KPMG Plaza at Hall Arts.

The hub-like office in the Dallas Arts District will serve as a launching pad for other Serendipity Labs Coworking offices in North Texas. Last year, the company announced plans to open nine locations in the region.

"We think there is enough pent-up demand in Dallas-Fort Worth to justify eight really good locations," said Doug Denman, president of Worth Coworking. "We have begun looking at the markets we will want to be in."

The 17th floor at KPMG Plaza will give Serendipity's initial North Texas location views throughout Dallas' skyline and will help solidify the coworking concept's upscale brand in the region, he added.

Construction is slated to begin by the end of next month. Serendipity has yet to select a general contractor.

Officials say they expect to be up and running for members by this November.

Sic'EmBears
07-31-2017, 10:17 PM
More quality reporting courtesy of Dallas Morning News.

Windrose Tower's website (http://www.windrosetower.com/#block_three) states the condominium tower to be 24 floors.

27-story condo tower construction starts this week in Plano's Legacy West (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2017/07/31/another-tower-starts-construction-week-planos-legacy-west)

http://www.windrosetower.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/home-elevated-windrose.png
Windrose Tower (http://www.windrosetower.com)

Project Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0849149,-96.8269058,312m/data=!3m1!1e3)


On Thursday, construction will start on a 27-story condominium tower in the heart of the mixed-use development.

The Windrose Tower at Legacy West high-rise is being built next door to Liberty Mutual Insurance's new regional office complex on Headquarters Drive.

The luxury residential tower will have condos ranging from 1,850 square feet to 11,000 square feet for the penthouse.

With more than 100 homes, units in the building is expected to be priced at $1 million and up.

John1744
08-01-2017, 09:24 AM
I know this is primarily about developments but any recommendations for affordable hotels for a small family in the DFW area? We're planning a 3 day trip there next month and want to hit up the Fort Worth Zoo, Dallas Aquarium, Perot Museum and maybe some shopping at Ikea or some of the malls in the area.

Sic'EmBears
08-01-2017, 10:15 PM
I know this is primarily about developments but any recommendations for affordable hotels for a small family in the DFW area? We're planning a 3 day trip there next month and want to hit up the Fort Worth Zoo, Dallas Aquarium, Perot Museum and maybe some shopping at Ikea or some of the malls in the area.

I'll PM you tomorrow.

Sic'EmBears
08-01-2017, 10:17 PM
Via DMN (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/economy/2017/08/01/dallas-fort-worth-3rd-biggest-data-center-market-report-says-one-watch) - DFW places second in North America data center absorption:


Still, Bond said D-FW had Chicago beat by a metric that’s even more important than raw supply: absorption.

That’s how much of that storage capacity is actually booked up by data tenants, or the companies that don’t want to house giant servers for all the information they need to run their businesses.

And Bond said that as more and more data center ecosystems hit their stride, it’s a better indicator of how well-balanced regional markets are.

D-FW’s absorption in the first half of 2017 was a 50 percent increase over the same time in 2016.

“The story on Dallas is we have a great demand pipeline and the ease to build,” Bond said.

Bond said that part of the reason D-FW is, in a way, playing catch-up to other markets is that its fast-growing business base is more diverse than Chicago’s, Northern Virginia’s or Northern California’s.

https://dallasnews.imgix.net/1501610016-JLL-data-center-absorption-H1-2017.PNG?bg=fff&auto=format&q=50&or=0&w=800

Sic'EmBears
08-01-2017, 10:30 PM
Residences at Hall Arts (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=218708), new rendering.

Residences start at 1,600 SF for $2 MM. Average unit size just under 4,000 SF, or just under $5 MM.

Work scheduled to begin October 16, 2017.

https://media.bizj.us/view/img/10427748/residences-at-night.jpg

Sic'EmBears
08-02-2017, 08:55 PM
Exclusive: Sam Ware to give new life to former Parkland campus (https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2017/08/01/exclusive-sam-ware-to-give-new-life-to-former.html)

https://media.bizj.us/view/img/10557417/dreien-parkland-jd59957.jpg


The longtime Dallas developer and business partner Jeff Blakeley of Dallas-based Dreien Opportunity Partners LLC are under contract to buy the 1.4 million-square-foot property, with plans to give it a second life as an amenity-rich destination called The District.

"You could not replicate this today for under $500 million," said Ware, who calls this a "once in a lifetime," opportunity.

Some of the proposed plans include:


Convert the emergency room tower into a hotel to cater to the Medical District. A hotel flag has yet to be selected and a hotel study is being conducted to determine demand for rooms.
Build small condos that can be sold at a price point ranging from the $200,000s to the $750,000s.
Develop micro-unit apartments by combining two patient rooms into a 500-square-foot apartment that can be rented at a discount compared with Uptown rents.
Retrofit rooms to offer a wide range of senior living capabilities from assisted living to memory care.
Bring in a variety of amenities ranging from valet services, a high-end workout facility, eateries such as a 24-hour diner called Scrubs, a grocery store, high-end 7-Eleven store and other amenities doctors, nurses, patients and residents might need to stay in The District.
Convert a two-story underground MRI facility into a parking facility to add up to 900 parking spaces to the campus.

Sic'EmBears
08-02-2017, 09:00 PM
NetScout Systems Inc. to break ground this week on its Allen regional HQ.

The 145,000 SF facility will include a courtyard, fitness center and cafeteria.

http://www.bokapowell.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Kaizen-Netscout-Exterior-View_web.jpg
BOKA (http://www.bokapowell.com/planos-loss-allens-gain-tech-firm-netscout-plans-office-move/)

Sic'EmBears
08-04-2017, 03:26 PM
Oak Cliff's Wynnewood Village owner Brixmor plans upgrades for the 1940s shopping center (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/retail/2017/08/03/oak-cliffs-wynnewood-village-owner-brixmor-plans-upgrades-1940s-shopping-center)

https://dallasnews.imgix.net/1501691271-Wynnewood_Village_concept_3.jpg?w=724&h=500&auto=format&q=60&fit=clip

Project Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.723039,-96.8330418,646m/data=!3m1!1e3)


Wynnewood was built in 1949, decades before enclosed malls were built. It was laid out like a village with one-story buildings and parking around the streets.

A plan is taking shape to spend about $30 million to make the shopping center “more relevant to the community,” said Matthew Berger, president of the West division of Brixmor.

"Their team has flown in three times in the last two months and we've had other conversations," Griggs said. "We welcome their vision and redesign. The addition of new tenants will benefit all of Oak Cliff and southern Dallas."

He said it will take at least another 60 days before leases are signed, but said the prospective tenants are services that aren’t in the center now.

Architectural renderings provided by Brixmor show a theater and a fitness center.

“This is a project we’re ready to start tackling now,” Berger said.

The core shopping center will get new landscaping, façade and parking areas, Berger said, and a section near an existing roundabout will be a new focal point of the shopping center.

Brixmor is still working on plans, he said, but a second phase will include the large vacant field in the middle of the center where a Montgomery Ward store once stood.

https://dallasnews.imgix.net/1501691268-Wynnewood_Village_concept_2.jpg?w=724&h=500&auto=format&q=60&fit=clip

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Sic'EmBears
08-05-2017, 11:32 PM
Simpson Strong-Tie manufacturing company will expand its McKinney facilities by 98,000 square feet this year (https://communityimpact.com/local-news/dallas-fort-worth/mckinney/news/2017/07/31/simpson-strong-tie-manufacturing-company-will-expand-mckinney-facilities-98000-square-feet-year/)


California-based Simpson Strong-Tie is expanding its current manufacturing and warehouse facilities located at 2221 Country Lane, McKinney.

The 98,000-square-foot addition, which is expected to be complete by the end of November, will expand the company’s training center, office, manufacturing and warehouse facilities.

Project Location (https://www.google.com/maps/place/2221+Country+Ln,+McKinney,+TX+75069/@33.169189,-96.5978559,408m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x864c11f489af1de5:0x75b91 cd48048d5ca!8m2!3d33.1693204!4d-96.5971265)

Sic'EmBears
08-05-2017, 11:42 PM
California tech company moves its headquarters to Plano (https://communityimpact.com/dallas-fort-worth/plano/commerce/2017/08/02/california-tech-company-moves-headquarters-plano/)

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Originally stationed in the tech-hub of Silicon Valley, Solid Americas announced Wednesday the opening of its headquarters in Plano—adding to the growing list of companies relocating to North Texas.

Solid, a South Korean-based communications product manufacturer, will hold its open house celebration of the 20,000 square foot facility Thursday at 800 Klein Road.


The tech company specializes in providing cellular connectivity solutions for high density areas, such as stadiums, university campuses and large corporate headquarters, according to the press release. One of its current clients is Toyota’s recently-opened, 2.1 million square-foot North American headquarters.

Solid’s facility will also include a research and development center, an assembly and testing facility and a training center for clients and employees.

Project Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0090136,-96.6687845,210m/data=!3m1!1e3)

Sic'EmBears
08-06-2017, 02:20 PM
Developers buy properties along Oak Lawn's Maple Avenue for future project (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2017/08/01/developers-buy-properties-along-oak-lawns-maple-avenue-future-project)

https://dallasnews.imgix.net/1501603639-maplecorner.jpg?auto=format&q=50&or=0&w=800


Almost three blocks along busy Maple Avenue have been purchased by two real estate companies created by MQ Development, a Dallas-based shopping center firm. The companies have purchased more than three dozen properties over more than a year, Dallas County records show.

Most of the property is on the south side of Maple, stretching about three blocks between Wycliff Avenue and Lucas Drive. The purchases include automotive businesses, small retail buildings and offices.

The buyers also have bought several blocks of small homes in the area behind the business strip.

Builders are already making moves in the residential blocks between Maple and Harry Hines Boulevard, buying up old homes and property to build houses and townhomes.

Project Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8109142,-96.8206108,409m/data=!3m1!1e3)

Sic'EmBears
08-06-2017, 02:25 PM
Stillwater Capital Tees Up a Multifamily Project in Deep Ellum (http://dallas.towers.net/2017/08/05/stillwater-capital-tees-up-a-multifamily-project-in-deep-ellum/)

http://dallas.towers.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/DeepEllumHall_Stillwater_PrelimPlat.jpg

Project Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7811608,-96.7790631,420m/data=!3m1!1e3)


Stillwater Capital expects to begin construction this fall on a five-story apartment building with parking garage in a far south corner of the Deep Ellum District.

Their project quietly waltzed through the City Plan Commission in late June as a preliminary plat application that was prepared by Brown & Gay Engineers Inc. and approved by the commission without discussion.

According to state architectural project records, this involves new construction of a multifamily structure that will contain 336 units, a garage, club room for tenants, and a gym. The estimated cost is $34 million.

The Deep Ellum project is on a 4.8-acre tract, an entire block bounded by South Hall Street, Jeffries Street, Chestnut Street and Interstate 30 East. The new plat divides the block into two lots.

http://dallas.towers.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2017/08/DeepEllumHall_DeepEllumDist-map.jpg

stick47
08-07-2017, 06:18 AM
Out of control boomtown to me is one where urban sprawl outpaces a cities ability to provide services (or to maintain the streets that were already here before the boom. Kind of like they're doing now)

Sic'EmBears
08-07-2017, 09:47 PM
Two business services firms would bring more than 1,000 employees to new Irving offices (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2017/08/07/two-business-services-firms-bring-1000-employees-new-irving-offices)


Cognizant Technology Solutions U.S. Corp., a provider of information technology, consulting and business process services, plans to relocate their regional headquarters to an office building in Las Colinas.

The office move will result in the relocation or hiring of up to 1,090 employees with an average salary of $70,000, according to filings with the Irving City Council.

Cognizant plans to rent 40,000 square feet of space in the building for the first phase of its operation.

Cognizant is based in New Jersey and has its technology solutions U.S. headquarters in College Station and an office on Las Colinas Boulevard in Irving.

Sic'EmBears
08-07-2017, 09:55 PM
Las Colinas data center gearing up for major expansion (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2017/08/07/las-colinas-data-center-gearing-major-expansion)


A Kansas data center firm is eyeing a major expansion of its Las Colinas campus.

QTS Realty in 2013 purchased the former 700,000 square-foot Maxim semiconductor manufacturing plant on Longhorn Drive in Irving and converted it to a data center.

QTS recently filed more than $78 million in building permits to finish out two data halls and construct a new building on the campus

The expansion would make the Las Colinas project one of the largest data centers in North Texas.

Sic'EmBears
08-08-2017, 10:05 PM
Park District (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=210893):

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Park District (https://www.facebook.com/ParkDistrictDallas/?ref=page_internal)

Bleu Ciel (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=211551):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGe7K9UVwAEKdS1.jpg:large
CTroyMathis (https://twitter.com/ctroymathis?lang=en)

Katy Station (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=217329):

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20156059_1380200448700969_7535937239471109265_n.jp g?oh=9e33fb01bf70f26c83972c534f3877a8&oe=59F9E9D0
Andres Construction (https://www.facebook.com/AndresConstruction/)

1900 Pearl (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=217582):

https://s1.postimg.org/qyfkon3fz/20170803_165500.jpg

https://s1.postimg.org/5ndf6mvxr/20170803_165535.jpg
maconahey (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/member.php?u=12698)

The Union (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=211602):

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20746095_1407758869311199_4675343265332036217_o.jp g?oh=9225948bc59cb769837aeb69bd494224&oe=5A333456
The Union (https://www.facebook.com/theuniondallas/)

No. 10 Harwood (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=218108), lower right:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4403/36334634216_7592b859cd_h.jpg
Harwood District Dallas (https://flic.kr/p/XmLuSC) by Joseph Haubert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/josephhaubert/)

Sic'EmBears
08-09-2017, 05:01 PM
Legacy South, Plano's newest 210,000 SF office building.

Set to open early 2019.


https://dallasnews.imgix.net/1502293888-Legacy-South-Building-Rendering.jpg?auto=format&q=50&or=0&w=800
DMN (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2017/08/09/planos-building-boom-continues-new-office-project-tollway-near-legacy-west)

progressiveboy
08-10-2017, 12:37 PM
Dallas Business Journal reports possible DFW relocation for Pei Wei.


https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2017/08/07/national-casual-dining-giant-eyeing-relocation-to.html

Eric
08-10-2017, 01:09 PM
Why do cities do this type of thing. It's not like Pei Wei is being "bought" for $75k. The boss likes Dallas better, so here they come. Why even bother?

Sic'EmBears
08-10-2017, 05:21 PM
D-FW tops the country in single-family home construction (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2017/08/10/d-fw-tops-country-home-construction)


During the year ended with June, builders started 31,049 single-family homes in the D-FW area, according to data from Metrostudy Inc.

That's up from the 29,626 single-family home starts that put the area at the top of the national building ranking in 2016.

Builders got permits to start 20,704 apartments in the year ending June. That's second nationally only to New York City which had 29,746 multifamily permits.

"During the energy bust, Houston builders were forced to reproduct and drop prices to meet the changing demand," she said.

https://dallasnews.imgix.net/1502392763-Screen-Shot-2017-08-10-at-2.16.48-PM.png?bg=fff&auto=format&q=50&or=0&w=1400

Sic'EmBears
08-11-2017, 03:51 PM
While Dallas manufacturing thrives, Austin and Houston rank as nation's worst (https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2017/08/11/dallas-manufacturing.html)

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2865/34236065072_cfacd1cb60_h.jpg
Tony Romo Tribute (https://flic.kr/p/UajMo1) by Joseph Haubert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/josephhaubert/)

Texas Job Creation/Loss by County


Dallas + 3,200
Travis - (3,000)
Harris - (19,000)


North Texas Job Creation/Loss by County


Dallas + 3,200
Denton + 396
Kaufman + 249
Rockwall + 249
Collin + 225
Ellis + 77
Tarrant - (2,095)



Dallas County created 3,191 manufacturing jobs in 2016, according to Headlight Data. That ranked No. 3 in the U.S. for most jobs created.

Dallas' success stands in stark contrast to Travis County, Austin's home, which lost 3,000 manufacturing jobs. Travis lost the second most manufacturing jobs nationwide.

And the county that lost the most? Harris County, home of Houston, which lost 19,000 manufacturing jobs. Dallas' neighbor to the west, Tarrant County, didn't fare well either, losing more than 2,000 manufacturing jobs last year.

"Oil and gas is very tied to metal manufacturing, and of course in Houston that's going to fall," Engle said, citing the downturn in the oil market.

What's driving growth in Dallas County is beverage, computer and electronic product, and plastics and rubber. Dallas County ranked ninth, second and third in the U.S., respectively, in those categories.

Sic'EmBears
08-13-2017, 11:57 PM
Wondering about all that construction at the arboretum? Here’s what’s up. (http://lakewood.advocatemag.com/2017/07/17/wondering-about-that-construction-at-the-arboretum/)


Later this fall, visitors will be able to experience A Tasteful Place, a working garden, or “portager” as the French say. The 2-acre space will be populated with fruit, vegetables, herbs and flowers, and will include orchards, a picnic lawn, patios and trails that overlook the lake and downtown.

You cannot miss the 3,600-square-foot Garden Pavilion, which includes a dining room and commercial kitchen for cooking classes, educational programs and chef-prepared meals. The healthful meals will be sourced from the garden’s produce, which will be grown sustainably. Throughout the year, there will be daily tastings, cooking classes and demos about planting and harvesting fruits and vegetables.

http://lakewood.advocatemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/perspective-2-add-alt-1195x580.jpg

Plutonic Panda
08-14-2017, 05:02 AM
The Trinity Tollroad has been killed by the Dallas City Council and will likely be dead for the foreseeable future.

Geographer
08-14-2017, 10:20 AM
The Trinity Tollroad has been killed by the Dallas City Council and will likely be dead for the foreseeable future.

Yes! I loved seeing all of the cheers from the crowd in the Council Chamber. Glorious win!

Sic'EmBears
08-14-2017, 10:38 PM
The Trinity Tollroad has been killed by the Dallas City Council and will likely be dead for the foreseeable future.

I'm a huge supporter of NTTA, but the Trinity Tollroad would have been an urban setback.

Sic'EmBears
08-15-2017, 09:35 PM
Uptown proposal creates three new public spaces by converting two-ways to one-ways.

In design phase.

:cheers:

Park A - McKinney @ Allen (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8004425,-96.8009635,124m/data=!3m1!1e3)

Park B - Carlisle @ Allen (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8026681,-96.8031801,124m/data=!3m1!1e3)

Park C - Cole @ Harvard (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8281818,-96.786144,124m/data=!3m1!1e3)

https://candysdirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Screen-Shot-2017-08-02-at-9.59.04-PM.png

Park A - McKinney @ Allen (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8004425,-96.8009635,124m/data=!3m1!1e3)

https://candysdirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Screen-Shot-2017-08-02-at-9.58.40-PM.png

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https://candysdirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Screen-Shot-2017-08-02-at-10.00.52-PM.png

Park B - Carlisle @ Allen (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8026681,-96.8031801,124m/data=!3m1!1e3)

https://candysdirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Screen-Shot-2017-08-02-at-10.01.17-PM.png

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Park C - Cole @ Harvard (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8281818,-96.786144,124m/data=!3m1!1e3)

White lines depict realigned roadway.

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https://candysdirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Screen-Shot-2017-08-02-at-10.03.35-PM.png

Plutonic Panda
08-16-2017, 12:44 AM
I'm a huge supporter of NTTA, but the Trinity Tollroad would have been an urban setback.

I'm divided on the issue. With that being said, with the recent horse shoe project completed, I don't think TRT is all that needed now. Maybe in the future when density warrants it, a tunnel can be built somewhere. I also had my concerns of building the freeway in an extremely flood prone area. My two main wishes for travel around downtown Dallas is getting the 75 buried underground or at least built below grade and capped in several areas and a subway system built.

Geographer
08-16-2017, 10:17 AM
I'm divided on the issue. With that being said, with the recent horse shoe project completed, I don't think TRT is all that needed now. Maybe in the future when density warrants it, a tunnel can be built somewhere. I also had my concerns of building the freeway in an extremely flood prone area. My two main wishes for travel around downtown Dallas is getting the 75 buried underground or at least built below grade and capped in several areas and a subway system built.

The proposed D2 extension through downtown will be a subway line.