Looks good, but forcing pedestrians to walk THROUGH anchor down's patio is such a bonehead move. It is awkward where the sidewalk meets the foundation.

Oklahoma has never gone through there as far as I know.

Plus, it's a dog park. Fence and grass. Easiest thing to move/remove in the world.
That's true.

Another big reason I'd also like to see a street or perhaps just a large pedestrian walkway is I think it'd help the appeal of redeveloping that huge parking lot to the south.

Since there's rail there, a road would require a railroad bridge. It would take out a bunch of the parking to the south and would have a rather ungainly appearance because of the height required for rail to potentially pass underneath it. That line is the Adventure Line which the city would like to use someday.

That rail line is also the preferred connection point for trains like the Eastern Flyer to get up to the Santa Fe Station platform. Of course, right now the line is inactive, but that's the line that they want to rebuild and use. It's currently owned by Union Pacific.

Why? Has one ever gone through?

The rails used to go completely through downtown to the connection that is west of the county jail. Eventually they rerouted but that area where the parking lot is used to be a full fledged railyard with a turntable and all. Skinny Slims used to be the yard hands bunkhouse and the police station in Bricktown used to be the freight depot. Doug Dawg has a blog on OKC Rail History and there are several pics of this area in it.

The rails used to go completely through downtown to the connection that is west of the county jail. Eventually they rerouted but that area where the parking lot is used to be a full fledged railyard with a turntable and all. Skinny Slims used to be the yard hands bunkhouse and the police station in Bricktown used to be the freight depot. Doug Dawg has a blog on OKC Rail History and there are several pics of this area in it.Thank you. I'm going to check those out.

Thank you. I'm going to check those out.

Doug Dawgz Blog: Okc Trains Part 1 (http://dougdawg.blogspot.com/2007/08/okc-trains-part-1.html?m=1)

^^^^^
Gotta say, while I usually love grid reconnection, in this case I think it would be harmful to the character of both DD and of Main Street in Bricktown. Now, a better more formalized pedestrian connection along the same alignment? THAT I could get behind.

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Gotta say, while I usually love grid reconnection, in this case I think it would be harmful to the character of both DD and of Main Street in Bricktown. Now, a better more formalized pedestrian connection along the same alignment? THAT I could get behind.

Isn't there still a possibility of the city building a commuter line spur that curves from the south to the east IF A) UP doesnt allow use of their spur and B) that parking garage isn't built right next to the BNSF viaduct?

I know it would be stupid to have a neighborhood station on that possible elevated spur line right next to the main north south line of commuter lines but you put that in, in this elevated sense and BAM you knock out two birds with one stone...

OKCTalk - Belle Kitchen to open locations in Deep Deuce and on North May Avenue (http://www.okctalk.com/content/220-belle-kitchen-open-locations-deep-deuce-north-may-avenue.html)

From the site plan...
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/6834d1391201931-oksea-okseanew1.jpg

... where will this be, in the unit to the West of Anchor Down or upstairs?

It will be in the downstairs unit west of A/D.

I've been saying for years that DeepDeuce needs a donut shop. Finally!

Dog park is now open:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/dog021616.jpg

I've been saying for years that DeepDeuce needs a donut shop. Finally!

I'll have to admit her donuts are very good, I have usually one bought one or two at a time so i didn't give the price much thought. However for valentines I pre ordered a few dozen and it was $40 bucks. Is the rent in OkSea reasonably priced? I worry about people reaching a plateau with pricing a donut at $2 each, lets face it donut shops would go broke if everyone was only buying 1 or 2 donuts and not a dozen or 2 for the office or church or whatever. I wish her the best and hope she has huge success, but Im a bit worried.

There space at OKSea will be quite small; a lot of the cooking / baking will be done at their larger facility that is soon to open at May & Grand.

I'll have to admit her donuts are very good, I have usually one bought one or two at a time so i didn't give the price much thought. However for valentines I pre ordered a few dozen and it was $40 bucks. Is the rent in OkSea reasonably priced? I worry about people reaching a plateau with pricing a donut at $2 each, lets face it donut shops would go broke if everyone was only buying 1 or 2 donuts and not a dozen or 2 for the office or church or whatever. I wish her the best and hope she has huge success, but Im a bit worried.

Is a "few" = 3? If so, your math is off - that's $1.11 per donut, which is entirely reasonable, especially if they're not the Sunlight/Daylight crap donuts that are pervasive...

I was in their May & Grand location today and was surprised it was so big. They will have a big work area / kitchen but there will be lots of seating as well.

They are still a few weeks out but I have the feeling this is going to be very popular. They've been selling at the OSU Farmer's Market for a while as well as other pop-up locales and have a decent following. Their pastry chef, Shelby, is very highly regarded.

I can tell you their donuts are different in texture but I really liked the ones I tried. This will be a pretty decent step up from other donut places and of course they will have a large variety of pastries, ice cream, sandwiches, bread and all types of other great things.

I would post pictures but the place is a mess and I know they want to put their best foot forward as they've invested a lot of time and money in their branding and look. And it shows.

Is a "few" = 3? If so, your math is off - that's $1.11 per donut, which is entirely reasonable, especially if they're not the Sunlight/Daylight crap donuts that are pervasive...

Woah woah woah.

Nothing wrong with Daylight Donuts. It's probably a different style of donut.

^^^ Daylight/Sunlight's completely average in my mind (along with 99% of the "DONUT" places in every 3rd or 4th strip mall you see), just sugar bombs without much depth or intricacy of taste, nothing like the Busy Bee Bakery in Downers Grove, or the Donut Stop in Amarillo, or what Spudnuts used to be here, et al...

^

I'll be very curious to see how you react to Belle Kitchen

It's quite different

Off topic as for the main thread but dead on as of recently...Miller Donuts in Yukon is quite delicious!

Are they the "cake" donuts? Never been a fan of those. I no longer eat donuts, but if I would, I would go to Polar Donuts on Meridian.

Donut shop on 39th and rockwell were the best I've had in OKC so far.

Are they the "cake" donuts? Never been a fan of those. I no longer eat donuts, but if I would, I would go to Polar Donuts on Meridian.

They are yeast raised donuts, they are very good.... But it's going to cost you.

Are they the "cake" donuts? Never been a fan of those. I no longer eat donuts, but if I would, I would go to Polar Donuts on Meridian.

Is that the place with the "strong pimp hand" and "camel toe" shaped donuts?

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I'll be very curious to see how you react to Belle Kitchen

It's quite different

Just from the pictures, I know I'm going to be making regular trips there, much to the detriment of my body, lol...

Oh, and on topic - was at OKSea Fri night, pretty cool, but the dog park was smaller than I thought it'd be (for some reason, I think of the one in Edmond on 33rd/Rankin St. as what a dog park should be - that thing's huge, so it's probably out of the norm for dog parks because of the circumstances of the land it's on).

Very few people living in Deep Deuce who would be walking over have large dogs.

Many apartment and condo dwellers with smaller breeds.

^^^ Daylight/Sunlight's completely average in my mind (along with 99% of the "DONUT" places in every 3rd or 4th strip mall you see), just sugar bombs without much depth or intricacy of taste, nothing like the Busy Bee Bakery in Downers Grove, or the Donut Stop in Amarillo, or what Spudnuts used to be here, et al...

I like those places the best honestly. I absolutely hate the craft/specialty donut stores. There are quite a few in Portland and they all suck, the worst of which is VooDoo donuts. They just taste like they try too hard to be special, missing out on just making a soft, chewy donut.

In fact, I made it a point on Friday to stop at a mom/pop "DONUT" store in OKC in a strip mall on the southside. They are damn near impossible to find in Portland, and it was great to have one again.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oksea050616.jpg

Belle Kitchen DD opens Monday 08/29/2016.

Where did you see/hear that?

Talked to the owner last night and she said they open tomorrow (Saturday) and will be open every day from 8AM to 6PM.

I know they did a "practice run" today and were giving away donuts this morning. Wish I could have gone by. :)

I saw on Instagram the official opening is Monday, but maybe they are lowkey/soft opening this weekend?

Lots of little details here, such as the sign for the dog park that mimics the containers:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/deepdeuce091116.jpg

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Saw that this popped up on the space next to Belle Kitchen.

What does that even say? Wheez the juice?

I took a photo of the door a few days ago and forgot about it. This one is during daylight and easier to read. Before they covered the windows a few weeks ago I saw them installing a bar on on the north side of the space.

http://i.imgur.com/EK04D2I.jpg

Encino Man reference?

Vape shop?

It's a juice place.

And yes, it's an Encino Man reference.

Should be opening soon.

https://www.facebook.com/wheezethejuice

A Pauly Shore themed store? We may have to rethink this OKSea thing.

Wheeze the Juice opens today at 7AM.

Wheeze the Juice is in the ground level container closest to the camera:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oksea030517.jpg

Wheeze the Juice is in the ground level container closest to the camera:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oksea030517.jpg

It's really good too! (albeit pricey)

Wheeze the Juice?

Sounds like a name that mid '90s Pauly Shore would've come up with.

Wheeze the Juice?

Sounds like a name that mid '90s Pauly Shore would've come up with.

Because it is/was.

It'd be a great name for a vape shop.

Who has the space or spaces above the juice place?

Who has the space or spaces above the juice place?

They are for lease.

The space above Anchor Down is Richard McKown's offices.

This place is taking the old Wheeze the Juice space:


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I thought this was going in at the old Belle's Kitchen

I thought this was going in at the old Belle's Kitchen

That could be. I just know they are going into OKSEA.

^ Either way, I'm excited that it's a legitimate cafe. When I saw the decal on the door, I had assumed it was only going to be a ghost kitchen for the delivery apps