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Prunepicker
12-15-2013, 10:33 PM
At one time I liked McDonald's. It was good cheap food. I was a fan
of the Fish Filet sandwich. For the past 2 years it's been awful. I
remember when they included it in the menu, 1965? It cost 25 cents.
I loved them until recently. They aren't the same. It's blah. Is it
because of the food police? I don't know.

Today I had a Big Mac. Talk about lack luster. The fries were good as
was the orange drink. But the sandwich? Blah. Very blah.

From now on I'll only order from the $1 menu.

Prunepicker
12-15-2013, 10:38 PM
Another gripe.

Why does fast food need to be healthy? Seriously.

If you don't want transfats or high caloric meals then don't go to
a fast food restaurant.

I don't care for the food police or the psuedo healthy screwballs in
this world.

The same goes for pizza, steak, BBQ, Mexican Roach Coaches.

Leave us alone.

ljbab728
12-15-2013, 11:24 PM
At one time I liked McDonald's. It was good cheap food. I was a fan
of the Fish Filet sandwich. For the past 2 years it's been awful. I
remember when they included it in the menu, 1965? It cost 25 cents.
I loved them until recently. They aren't the same. It's blah. Is it
because of the food police? I don't know.

Today I had a Big Mac. Talk about lack luster. The fries were good as
was the orange drink. But the sandwich? Blah. Very blah.

From now on I'll only order from the $1 menu.
The Big Mac tastes exactly the same now as is it did the first times I ever had one.

ljbab728
12-15-2013, 11:28 PM
Another gripe.

Why does fast food need to be healthy? Seriously.

If you don't want transfats or high caloric meals then don't go to
a fast food restaurant.

I don't care for the food police or the psuedo healthy screwballs in
this world.

The same goes for pizza, steak, BBQ, Mexican Roach Coaches.

Leave us alone.


And if you want to add asbestos to your house be my guest.

Of course we don't want to be concerned at all about those who want healthy fast food. They obviously aren't worthy.

Bill Robertson
12-16-2013, 07:21 AM
I agree with ljbab728. The Big Mac and filet of fish are my two favorite things at McDonald's. They taste the same to me as they always have. Maybe your just burned out on McDonald's?

Richard at Remax
12-16-2013, 09:18 AM
McRib is the only reason I go to McDonalds.

Garin
12-16-2013, 09:18 AM
Its hit and miss with Mcds sometimes its spot on and other times you cant even finish it

Joe Kimball
12-16-2013, 09:40 AM
I ate at a McDonald's for the first time since they reintroduced their dollar menu. They've appended an "and more" as a sort of placating device that is little more than a bait and switch, in my opinion, especially when you study the menu and find that the items are in no particular order, strewn about with two dollar items rubbing shoulders with one-dollar items, with the distance between the item listing and the price being enough to allow an opportunity for confusion -- and an extra dollar in mcD's pocket -- if one doesn't mentally line up the corresponding sides correctly.

Gone are the McDouble's at their value price; they are now 1.19. It's the same with fries. McChicken's remain at that price, and the only burgers are single patty things that do a poor credit.

It's not really the same as when the double cheeseburger, now 1.49, left the dollar menu to be replaced with a similar version with one less slice of cheese. These sandwiches are simply not a good value.

rezman
12-16-2013, 10:02 AM
Its hit and miss with Mcds sometimes its spot on and other times you cant even finish it

The sign says " Millions Served" .. but they never tell you how many have been eaten.

OKCretro
12-16-2013, 10:47 AM
Havent been to Mcdonald's in years, even the smell is nauseating

Pete
12-16-2013, 11:01 AM
Their fries are still sublime and their new wraps are pretty decent.

SoonerDave
12-16-2013, 11:08 AM
And if you want to add asbestos to your house be my guest.

Of course we don't want to be concerned at all about those who want healthy fast food. They obviously aren't worthy.

But see, I think this comment here points out exactly what Prunepicker is getting at indirectly - there's this implied notion of piety and superior morality for those who stick the word "healthy" as a kind of have-you-stopped-beating-your-wife catch phrase to keep you from "defending" your necessarily "unhealthy" and therefore implicitly immoral choices, as in "oh, so *you* eat *that* food? Well, I only eat healthy food." For whatever reason, people have a predisposition toward new and fun ways to condescend to others, and food bigotry is just the latest.

Bottom line - any food to excess can be unhealthy. Even the stuff with the word "organic" plastered across the label without the slightest inkling what it really means.

As far as McD's goes, I think they are an American institution of corporate consistency. I've never been a Big Mac fan so much, but even as a kid I always marvelled at the fact that, somehow, a cheeseburger in OKC tastes darned near identical to a cheeseburger in Indianapolis and Los Angeles. That's a degree of process control (particularly considering the subsidiaries and franchisees involved) that's not easy to come by. Not saying there aren't outliers and bad apples of course, but like 'em or not, they have a remarkable level of consistency IMHO. IN latter years, however, I think they've lost some of that control, because the service at some franchisees is horrible.

I remember my cousin, who used to manage a McD's, attended some regional convention just after they'd switched to a different kind of fat for cooking french fries, one that was getting a bunch of customer complaints. He said that one manager in some "speak your mind" forum begged the powers-that-be to go back to the "bad" kind of cooking oil because "Bubba likes his fat," and brought the house down with laughter and applause. The McD folks heard him, apparently, and shortly thereafter went back to a somewhat reformulated version of the previous cooking medium - at least as my cousin told the story.

Richard at Remax
12-16-2013, 11:17 AM
A slight side step but I would suggest anyone who hasn't seen Super Size Me do so. The base story for the movie is two people sued Mcdonalds because they claimed they ate it every day and it made them really unhealthy. No s&^t.

In this age of people suing anyone for anything, maybe McDonalds, and other fast food, are pushing their "healthy menus" so they can dodge lawsuits like the ones in the movie. Claiming they have "healthier" options that the people could have eaten instead of a burger could make the case a moot point.

If that makes any sense.

kevinpate
12-16-2013, 01:23 PM
bacon mcdouble

2 bucks, 2, maybe 3, bites. Simple, fast, edible. What more do you need from a snack.

SoonerDave
12-16-2013, 01:50 PM
Don't do too many hamburgers these days amid my weight loss efforts, but I tell ya....after trying a Carl's Jr. Famous Star burger as a treat a few weeks ago, (not a big one, or the $6 one, or whatever they call it, just their basic burger), it's darned difficult to go back to a McDonald's burger. However they cook 'em, broiling, charbroil, whatever, man they're good. And the lettuce/tomatoes etc actually taste really fresh, too. For a chain place, yum.

OKCisOK4me
12-16-2013, 01:58 PM
MickyDFree since 9/2007!

Mel
12-16-2013, 02:10 PM
My taste buds have grown old along with me. Nothing taste the same as it used too.

Joe Kimball
12-16-2013, 04:05 PM
Don't do too many hamburgers these days amid my weight loss efforts, but I tell ya....after trying a Carl's Jr. Famous Star burger as a treat a few weeks ago, (not a big one, or the $6 one, or whatever they call it, just their basic burger), it's darned difficult to go back to a McDonald's burger. However they cook 'em, broiling, charbroil, whatever, man they're good. And the lettuce/tomatoes etc actually taste really fresh, too. For a chain place, yum.

I would agree. I like to go light on the condiments, because they spackle them on. Additionally, I like how you can request barbeque sauce, dill pickles and mayonnaise on whatever cheeseburger they have, thereby creating a nod toward a Theta.

One thing, though: the prices. But, they have to do SOMETHING to offset all of those coupons and text/email deals they dole out like phone books.

RadicalModerate
12-16-2013, 05:26 PM
I'm not so much disappointed in McDonald's as I am disappointed in myself. I used to eat lunch at McDonald's four or five times a week. My usual order was a Double Cheeseburger, a small order of fries and a medium drink. That's 880 calories. Just for lunch. Some days I would sub an Angus Burger or a Big Mac for the Double Cheeseburger.

Years of this (along with other less-than-healthy eating choices) got me up to 285 lbs. In June I changed my eating habits, including, almost completely cutting out McDonald's. Now, I'm down to 231 lbs. From time to time, I'll have one of their Classic Grilled Chicken sandwiches (actually gets an A- on some fairly strict nutrition websites) or their Grilled Chicken Southwestern Salad (a C- on the same rating scale, but actually doesn't taste bad at all. In fact, it tastes pretty darn good).

I love me a McDonald's Fish Filet, but it is about twice as expensive as it should be.
Not that this matters anymore: I don't eat them. =)

Easy180
12-16-2013, 05:36 PM
MickyDFree since 9/2007!

You must not have any kids lol

kevinpate
12-16-2013, 06:11 PM
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One thing, though: the prices. But, they have to do SOMETHING to offset all of those coupons and text/email deals they dole out like phone books.

I give credit where it is due. Carl's has a fairly decent text based coupon program.

okcboomer
12-16-2013, 06:29 PM
McDonald's = crap. Why anyone feeds their body crap is beyond me. But more power to you.

Prunepicker
12-16-2013, 07:19 PM
The sign says " Millions Served" ...
That's "Billions Served".

OKCisOK4me
12-16-2013, 07:26 PM
You must not have any kids lol

Even if I did I might choose to go the route my sister does with hers...gluten free.

Drake
12-16-2013, 07:47 PM
Even if I did I might choose to go the route my sister does with hers...gluten free.

Why does your sister or why would you choose that route?

Celiac disease?

jn1780
12-16-2013, 08:36 PM
It was always gross. Its just that your getting less gross food for the same price because of the "Food Police". The healthy food options came because people started leaving McDonald's because of the negative image from documentaries.

OKCisOK4me
12-16-2013, 08:39 PM
Why does your sister or why would you choose that route?

Celiac disease?

She has RA and one kid has digestive issues while the other has skin irritation issues.

For me it would be a health choice. But I'm still far away from that. I can't not eat other fast foods as it is, lol. I will probably eat them until I'm told I can't. Not to mention that it's like once a week or two as compared to almost everyday when I was younger.

soonerguru
12-16-2013, 09:40 PM
Whataburger is the best fast-food burger. Braum's used to be good -- and still is when you ask them to cook you a fresh burger. Have you noticed that Braum's has the little plastic drawer they store the cooked patties in? Gag.

Sonic is OK.

Whataburger is the best.

SoonerDave
12-16-2013, 11:56 PM
It was always gross. Its just that your getting less gross food for the same price because of the "Food Police". The healthy food options came because people started leaving McDonald's because of the negative image from documentaries.

Do you really believe that?

I began to frequent McD's less because other chains had better burgers - but not better fries. I don't live or die by "documentaries" which often are merely efforts to rationalize a pre-determined conclusion, eg Film maker hates fast food - film maker makes documentary - documentary puts McD's (or other FF chain) in bad light. Biiiig surprise there.

But you really needed a "documentary" to suggest that McD's or whatever other fast food chain you might mention isn't a good idea to take day after day after day?

soonerguru
12-17-2013, 12:45 AM
I'm surprised any fast food enterprise today would have transfats on the menu. Men's Health recently targeted one of my childhood faves: Long John Silver's. When I was 12, a Fish 'n' More was culinary perfection. But they're still using transfats in their oils, which have been dispensed by most fast food operations. That they're still using transfats in their oils in 2013 was mildly surprising. How hard is it to use other oils? Marketing fail.

dankrutka
12-19-2013, 10:46 PM
A slight side step but I would suggest anyone who hasn't seen Super Size Me do so. The base story for the movie is two people sued Mcdonalds because they claimed they ate it every day and it made them really unhealthy. No s&^t.

In this age of people suing anyone for anything, maybe McDonalds, and other fast food, are pushing their "healthy menus" so they can dodge lawsuits like the ones in the movie.

Super Size Me is a good film. Also check out Food Inc and King Corn. All good looks at the fast food industry.

Prunepicker
12-20-2013, 12:29 AM
I like Burger King over McDonald's. However, as Pete said, McDonald's
French Fries are sublime. For $0.35 you can get a great cup of coffee,
providing you're a Senior. I'm saddened that they've changed the taste
of the Big Mac and the Filet-O-Fish.

I know it's chic to knock Mickey D's, but I'm not known to be chic. It's
so un-chic to be chic.

MWCGuy
12-20-2013, 12:53 AM
It all depends on which McDonald's you visit. Some are crap while others are top notch. It also helps if you go around meal times for most people. 7-9am 11-1pm 5pm-8pm

Best McDonald's: Memorial and MacArthur

Worst McDonald's: SW 89th and Penn

I love eating at McDonald's but then again I don't expect it to be a gourmet meal. My fast food standards are hot fresh food that's it when it comes to fast food. You have to keep in mind Jaime Oliver and Alton Brown are not working in the back. The cooks are low skilled workers (most of them teenagers) making the same thing over and over again based on a corporate formula.

I have had bad meals at pretty much every fast food restaurant. If a certain location serves bad food on a regular basis, I won't go back. You get what you pay for. If your expecting gourmet quality food you probably should do take out somewhere or go to Johnnies and pay a lot more. (I Love Johnnie's, they are just a little hard on the wallet sometimes.)

BTW: The Big Mac died years ago. Since then it is has been a lettuce burger with two mini beef patties smothered in Thousand Island dressing.

Prunepicker
12-20-2013, 01:16 AM
It all depends on which McDonald's you visit. Some are crap while others
are top notch. It also helps if you go around meal times for most people.
7-9am 11-1pm 5pm-8pm.
You are exactly right. I believe the true franchises, like Santiago's are
quite superior to others. Maybe they make a stronger effort to please
the cliente, I mean customer, than others. Lo siento.



I love eating at McDonald's but then again I don't expect it to be a
gourmet meal.
I believe that's what the naysayers expect. I just expect so-so and
for it to be cheap. Like a sausage biscuit and a cup of coffee. If
I want a Croque Monsieur I'll go to La Baggette.

ljbab728
12-20-2013, 11:56 PM
I'm saddened that they've changed the taste
of the Big Mac and the Filet-O-Fish.

I've never eaten a Filet-O-Fish and don't plan to but I've been eating Big Macs since they first started making them. They taste exactly like they always have.

catch22
12-24-2013, 01:44 PM
I go to the 89th and Penn location quite frequently, and have noticed it is one of the best for good service. I never have to double check my order. I have only had one bad experience at that location, and that was an abnormal 10 minute wait.

The worst is the SW104th and May. I have never gotten my order right the first time there, and have never had it take less than 5 minutes.

SoonerDave
12-24-2013, 02:31 PM
I go to the 89th and Penn location quite frequently, and have noticed it is one of the best for good service. I never have to double check my order. I have only had one bad experience at that location, and that was an abnormal 10 minute wait.

The worst is the SW104th and May. I have never gotten my order right the first time there, and have never had it take less than 5 minutes.

Glad I'm not the only one who makes this exact same observation.

How bad is the 104th and May McD's?? I live ridiculously close to it, and I still go to SW 89th and Penn. And its a grand total of four miles round trip out of my way if I'm taking something home.

104th and May may be one of the worst, slowest, error-prone McD's in the city.

catch22
12-24-2013, 02:44 PM
They are equidistant from my house, I gave the 104th location many chances and have never received a satisfactory experience. Now, at home, or in the area, I exclusively go to 89th and Penn and never have any problems.

kevinpate
12-24-2013, 03:42 PM
Used to stop in at 89th and Penn quite a bit. Was a convenient place to grab a drink and touch base with a couple of different folk from the sw area of city and from elsewhere.
Nice peeps, clean eatery.

soonerguru
12-24-2013, 07:06 PM
Super Size Me is a good film. Also check out Food Inc and King Corn. All good looks at the fast food industry.

Food Inc. is an absolute must see film.

Garin
12-26-2013, 06:06 PM
Sw 134th & Western is definitely the worst ran in the city. I find it odd that three south side Mcd's made the worst list, I wonder if they're owned by the same franchisee?

trousers
12-26-2013, 06:19 PM
I really try to avoid mcdonalds but the 23rd/Penn location has always been pretty consistent with good service overall.

MWCGuy
12-27-2013, 03:01 AM
You are exactly right. I believe the true franchises, like Santiago's are
quite superior to others. Maybe they make a stronger effort to please
the cliente, I mean customer, than others. Lo siento.


I believe that's what the naysayers expect. I just expect so-so and
for it to be cheap. Like a sausage biscuit and a cup of coffee. If
I want a Croque Monsieur I'll go to La Baggette.


I think the Santiago's do regular quality control checks and visit each location frequently. They were McDonald's employees who started as workers and eventually moved up to owning their own store and that lead to owning several stores. I miss the one on Memorial because I could literally get in and out of there drive thru for breakfast in two minutes or less. If there was a hold up it was because of a customer holding up the line with a big order or customized order.

Over the years, I have always had bad luck at the 89th Penn location. The orders were wrong, the food was cold or the service was just lousy. My parents still live in that area and they swear the 104th location is leaps and bounds better than 89th is on a good day. Then again they are late night customers when they eat there so that could be the reason why one is worse and the other better for them.

I think it all boils down to the time of day and which employees are on the clock at moment. The McDonald's on 15th and Lockheed in MWC is like that. Mornings and afternoons are great. Evenings and overnights are hit and miss.

Pete
01-03-2025, 04:29 PM
McDonald's to build a new location on the site of the old CVS on the SW corner of NW 23rd and Meridian.

As is the trend, only 34 interior seats.

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mcdonalds010325a.jpg

Plutonic Panda
01-03-2025, 05:11 PM
That will be nice. There isn’t really a McDonald’s close by near the area.

gjl
01-03-2025, 07:10 PM
What do you call close? Because there is one at 23rd and Rockwell, 39th and MacArthur, 39th and Portland, and Meridian and Reno. About 2 miles in any direction from this new one.

Plutonic Panda
01-04-2025, 04:28 AM
It’s more of a convenience for people in this area or people driving down Classen when they’re going to work.

gjl
01-04-2025, 10:17 AM
It’s more of a convenience for people in this area or people driving down Classen when they’re going to work.

Where are you getting Classen? it's going to be on 23rd and Meridian.

Joe K
01-04-2025, 11:07 AM
I'm glad to see a new location, but the new trend is indeed a shame. I know it was influenced by various social and economic factors, but it's stunning to see the rapid departure from "cozy hang out" at the time this thread began to "get in and get out, and ask at the counter for refills" in the present day.

gjl
01-04-2025, 12:13 PM
36 seats is probably enough. We will go inside to eat breakfast occasionally at both the 39th and Portland and 39th and MacArthur locations and even when they are busy with people eating inside there is never more than 15-20 people inside. The having to ask for a drink refill is kind of a pain but they will gladly give you a whole new drink and not refill your original cup. If you google 'McDonalds drink stations' it explains why they are eliminating the self serve stations.

TheTravellers
01-04-2025, 12:52 PM
I'm glad to see a new location, but the new trend is indeed a shame. I know it was influenced by various social and economic factors, but it's stunning to see the rapid departure from "cozy hang out" at the time this thread began to "get in and get out, and ask at the counter for refills" in the present day.

I hate having to order at the kiosk inside - takes much longer and is more of a pain than just telling a cashier "Two 1/4 pounder meals with Coke and diet Dr. Pepper".

Plutonic Panda
01-04-2025, 03:13 PM
Where are you getting Classen? it's going to be on 23rd and Meridian.
Whoops. My mistake.

billokc
01-04-2025, 06:12 PM
I have two friends who live in the immediate area. I'm not surprised McD's is putting in a location there. Directly across the street is a Wendy's, next to that is a Burger King. Next to that is a Popeye's. Just south of the location where McD's will be is a Mexican restaurant, and a short distance east on 23rd is a Braum's, plus on the northeast corner there's a Cici's Pizza. And then finally adjacent to the Wendy's is a Crest grocery store. Tons of various food in that area except for a burger location. And the demographic makeup of the area is very "south of the border". So I would expect the Golden Arches to do quite well there.

gjl
01-04-2025, 06:17 PM
I'm sure it will do well there but how much will it pull business away from the 3 other locations 2 miles away in 3 directions. I wonder if it will be another Santiagos. Pretty sure both on 39th and MacArthur and Portland are. I don't know if 23rd and Rockwell is. Seems like with McDonalds if you build it they will come.

scottk
01-04-2025, 06:54 PM
I hate having to order at the kiosk inside - takes much longer and is more of a pain than just telling a cashier "Two 1/4 pounder meals with Coke and diet Dr. Pepper".

If you are a McDonald's regular, it is definitely worth the effort to download and order with their mobile app. So many good deals and coupons you can't get in the store, and it really helps bring the price down and speed things up. This past month the ones I used the most were the $1 10 piece chicken nuggets and free medium soft drink and fries with any sandwich purchase.

Also, if you are a person who typically orders the same thing a certain way, the app saves your order and makes it super easy to re-order with your customization and go through the drive thru with a short code. Much easier than the giant screen kiosk or having to repeat an order over the loud speaker.

gjl
01-04-2025, 06:58 PM
A little poking around on the County Assessors site, Santiago has the one on 23rd and Rockwell too along with one in Newcastle. That is the mailing address for the other 3. Santiago-Brennan is on the one on Reno and Meridian and NW Highway and MacArthur with a TX address. If the new one is going to be Santiago owned that is a good thing because they are usually very well run.

gjl
01-04-2025, 07:01 PM
If you are a McDonald's regular, it is definitely worth the effort to download and order with their mobile app. So many good deals and coupons you can't get in the store, and it really helps bring the price down and speed things up. This past month the ones I used the most were the $1 10 piece chicken nuggets and free medium soft drink and fries with any sandwich purchase.

Also, if you are a person who typically orders the same thing a certain way, the app saves your order and makes it super easy to re-order with your customization and go through the drive thru with a short code. Much easier than the giant screen kiosk or having to repeat an order over the loud speaker.

You can use the deals inside ordering at the counter too. Of all the Fast Food apps I have McDonald's got it right and is the easiest to use with the 4 digit code.

Plutonic Panda
01-04-2025, 07:08 PM
The McDonald’s app is amazing. $7 for a Big Mac combo. Sometimes 10 chicken nuggets for $1. $1 has brown once a day.

gjl
01-04-2025, 07:24 PM
Double cheese burgers for $1 a few weeks ago too.

TheTravellers
01-05-2025, 11:39 AM
If you are a McDonald's regular, it is definitely worth the effort to download and order with their mobile app. So many good deals and coupons you can't get in the store, and it really helps bring the price down and speed things up. This past month the ones I used the most were the $1 10 piece chicken nuggets and free medium soft drink and fries with any sandwich purchase.

Also, if you are a person who typically orders the same thing a certain way, the app saves your order and makes it super easy to re-order with your customization and go through the drive thru with a short code. Much easier than the giant screen kiosk or having to repeat an order over the loud speaker.

Thanks for the tip, but we only eat there maybe 2-3 times a year, might still try it, though.