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ou48A
12-14-2013, 06:29 PM
https://twitter.com/LonghornNetwork/status/412013435447037952

Cole Cubelic ‏@colecubelic 11m
? RT @LonghornNetwork: BREAKING: Mack Brown will resign as Texas head coach.

dankrutka
12-14-2013, 06:34 PM
Well I got that one wrong! But today is a new day full of adventures and life goes on.

A new day for more inaccuracies presented as absolute facts...

bluedogok
12-14-2013, 06:35 PM
Yep, looks like a credible source since it is the LHN.

https://twitter.com/LonghornNetwork/status/412013948234252288


Mack Brown has informed the team and recruits of his resignation He will coach the bowl game.

Garin
12-14-2013, 07:00 PM
Half right :dance:

ou48A
12-14-2013, 07:22 PM
Chip Brown ‏@ChipBrownOB 4m
Mack Brown's official retirement press conference will be Sunday at 1 pm CT.

ou48A
12-14-2013, 07:25 PM
Among some of the names being kicked around as a possible new UT coach is Mike Gundy.
No way that happens IMO.

Laramie
12-14-2013, 07:53 PM
I still think Texas would be crazy not to at least take a shot at Gundy, but I don't know if he fits their "ego" profile. They have to hire someone who they think is as "big" as Texas. I think Gundy is a heck of a coach, despite some of his curious public relations moves. There's some notion they might want to look toward the NFL, but I can't fathom any current NFL coach that would be worth pursuing would break away from an NFL gig unless that gig just wasn't working out, a la Shanahan at Washington. But he's a falling star IMHO, so there's no way Texas would want him. David Shaw would be a good hire.

Right now, you're right in pointing out that there's just not a great deal of "big enough" talent out there for Texas to snag now that it appears Saban truly is off the table.

No matter who they hire, that has to be prepared to handle Texas' internal athletic politics. Don't think that aspect gets nearly enough play, as I think that's a huge internal obstacle to most any coach being successful.


Breaking news...


Mack Brown will resign as coach of Texas following the team's appearance in the Valero Alamo Bowl on December 30, the school announced Saturday.

Mack Brown resigns as coach of Texas Longhorns - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10138466/mack-brown-resigns-coach-texas-longhorns)

OKCisOK4me
12-15-2013, 01:24 AM
Among some of the names being kicked around as a possible new UT coach is Mike Gundy.
No way that happens IMO.

I'll be happy to keep Gundy at OkState and I'll be surprised if Texas would even take him considering his dismal record of coaching against OU. Granted players going to Texas can be far more superior to crops of players at OSU but, I think Texas would pass on Gundy just due to the musings at OSU with the whole Sports Illustrated article. Not painting a "Gundy is dirty" picture as I believe innocent until proven guilty but it seems coaches jump ship all the time if a program is dirty. Kind of a catch22 (not you Matthew)... We'll have to wait and see.

Laramie
12-15-2013, 01:51 PM
I'll be happy to keep Gundy at OkState and I'll be surprised if Texas would even take him considering his dismal record of coaching against OU. Granted players going to Texas can be far more superior to crops of players at OSU but, I think Texas would pass on Gundy just due to the musings at OSU with the whole Sports Illustrated article. Not painting a "Gundy is dirty" picture as I believe innocent until proven guilty but it seems coaches jump ship all the time if a program is dirty. Kind of a catch22 (not you Matthew)... We'll have to wait and see.

If I recall doesn't Gundy (OSU) have a better record against Texas at Darrell Royal Stadium than any of the Big 12 schools. Hasn't he won the last three out of four in Austin?

Personally, I don't want Gundy at Texas; he would know what to do with that talent...

http://www.thunderfans.com/vforum/images/smilies/okc.gif "Oklahoma City looks oh-so pretty as I get my kicks on Route 66." --Nat King Cole.

OKCisOK4me
12-15-2013, 02:22 PM
That he has done. But winning at home against UT is the issue, lol.

ou48A
12-16-2013, 12:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/1aGwnbV.gif

okcboomer
12-16-2013, 06:40 PM
???

soonerguru
12-16-2013, 06:48 PM
I'll be happy to keep Gundy at OkState and I'll be surprised if Texas would even take him considering his dismal record of coaching against OU. Granted players going to Texas can be far more superior to crops of players at OSU but, I think Texas would pass on Gundy just due to the musings at OSU with the whole Sports Illustrated article. Not painting a "Gundy is dirty" picture as I believe innocent until proven guilty but it seems coaches jump ship all the time if a program is dirty. Kind of a catch22 (not you Matthew)... We'll have to wait and see.

Yes, Texas is very sensitive to that. That's why I was so surprised they were pursuing Saban. He may or may not cheat, but there's a dirty aura around him (much more so than Gundy). That, and his habit of oversigning recruiting classes and then dumping players for better ones in year two is pretty uncouth -- something I think Texas would have a hard time with.

Stan Silliman
12-16-2013, 07:44 PM
I remember Mack when he was OC at OU with his "Mack Attack."
I never met him but I used to play racquetball quite a bit with Watson Brown, his brother.
Watson played at Huston Huffman along with a few other coaches, Derrick Shepard and Jim Donnan.
They were all pretty nice guys, Donnan a more country than the others, but Watson was pretty nice.

I've got a few Mack Brown songs which ran on the Ronnie Kaye show. I'm debating whether to post them.

OKCisOK4me
12-17-2013, 02:02 AM
I like what they said on the radio yesterday morning. Send Jason Garrett down to Austin and let Mack Brown run things up in Arlington...see how that goes!

ou48A
12-17-2013, 07:41 PM
Please Texas, hire one of these 2

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000299913/article/brandt-five-coaching-candidates-texas-should-consider?campaign=Twitter_nfl_cb

Mike Gundy and Kliff Kingsbury are two men Texas should consider for its coaching vacancy, writes Gil Brandt.

Pete
12-17-2013, 07:44 PM
As someone else observed, Texas will pass over better candidates in the need to feed it's ego by pursuing a bunch of guys they'll never be able to hire, before settling on someone who is good but not great.

zookeeper
12-17-2013, 07:45 PM
Please Texas, hire one of these 2
News - Around the League - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...Twitter_nfl_cb)

Mike Gundy and Kliff Kingsbury are two men Texas should consider for its coaching vacancy, writes Gil Brandt.

That link didn't work for me. Here's the direct link Brandt: Five coaching candidates Texas should consider - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000299913/article/brandt-five-coaching-candidates-texas-should-consider)

ou48A
12-17-2013, 08:23 PM
As someone else observed, Texas will pass over better candidates in the need to feed it's ego by pursuing a bunch of guys they'll never be able to hire, before settling on someone who is good but not great.
To your point which is accurate IMO.
Texas has created such a huge mess for it's self!
Very wealthy UT factions have fought each other, has been an under-appreciated fact for decades and not well known outside the state of Texas.

http://tamu.rivals.com/content.asp?C...8163&PT=4&PR=2

“nothing that happened really makes sense except that one side won a power struggle and the other side lost it.”


“In the end, Saban became a means to an end rather than being the actual end itself and there's got to be more to that if Texas is going to right its program by choosing the right coach.”

“Now comes the hard part for Texas and as everyone knows when you're replacing a really successful coach, more often than not the people in charge don't get it right nearly as often as they get it wrong.”

soonerguru
12-17-2013, 08:41 PM
As someone else observed, Texas will pass over better candidates in the need to feed it's ego by pursuing a bunch of guys they'll never be able to hire, before settling on someone who is good but not great.

This is probably true. Texas, Notre Dame, and other historically great programs seem preternaturally obsessed with hiring a coach with head coaching experience. I'll take Stoops and Switzer, both former assistant coaches who became great head coaches. They're striking great candidates off the list by insisting only current head coaches need apply.

I think they're also making a huge mistake insisting that their head football coach be a PR genius, broadcasting whiz, baby kisser, political glad hander, and de facto university spokesman. They mythologize the job too much. Why not just a hire a great football coach and let him do his job?

Laramie
12-18-2013, 11:34 PM
Latest on the Texas coaching search...


Coach shoots down Texas rumors: The Longhorn coaching search denial tracker

Coach shoots down Texas rumors: The Longhorn coaching search denial tracker - SBNation.com (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/12/18/5221340/texas-coaching-search-candidates-comments)

zookeeper
12-19-2013, 12:56 AM
All they need to do is go up I-35 an hour and a half or so. Art Briles is my prediction as the first real offer. Solid pick. However, would Briles take the job?

venture
12-19-2013, 10:34 AM
All they need to do is go up I-35 an hour and a half or so. Art Briles is my prediction as the first real offer. Solid pick. However, would Briles take the job?

I'm not sure what his incentive would be to go to Austin...well besides a couple million more per year. He is about to get a brand new stadium, they were close to playing for the NC this year, and they are a force in the conference now. The only thing Texas is going to do better is the money...he can already get everything else in Waco if they keep it consistent.

zookeeper
12-19-2013, 01:02 PM
I'm not sure what his incentive would be to go to Austin...well besides a couple million more per year. He is about to get a brand new stadium, they were close to playing for the NC this year, and they are a force in the conference now. The only thing Texas is going to do better is the money...he can already get everything else in Waco if they keep it consistent.

I think you're probably right. Who would have ever thought that a coach at Baylor would be in a position to turn down UT?

ou48A
12-19-2013, 01:12 PM
The UT job is a huge headache with all the off the field management and big booster issues.

Briles while a very good coach, doesn’t have the right personalty to keep all the band-aids on the UT program for long.
It's going to take a very dynamic personality to maximize the UT football programs potential.

There are very real reasons why UT has only one national title in the past 41 years or so years.
Brown only won 2 Big 12 titles in 16 years.

BlackmoreRulz
12-19-2013, 08:11 PM
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SoonerDave
12-19-2013, 09:01 PM
This is probably true. Texas, Notre Dame, and other historically great programs seem preternaturally obsessed with hiring a coach with head coaching experience. I'll take Stoops and Switzer, both former assistant coaches who became great head coaches. They're striking great candidates off the list by insisting only current head coaches need apply.

I think they're also making a huge mistake insisting that their head football coach be a PR genius, broadcasting whiz, baby kisser, political glad hander, and de facto university spokesman. They mythologize the job too much. Why not just a hire a great football coach and let him do his job?

Bingo. This is precisely part of why Texas has never had success to match its resources and potential. They won't hire that kind of coach.

Laramie
12-21-2013, 12:19 AM
ESPN: by Jake Trotter

•Baylor coach Art Briles was asked what he would do if the Longhorns came calling. Briles' response? "The grass is green here" at Baylor.

•Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy said he's had no contact with Texas about the Longhorns' job, and more interestingly, said he has changed agents.


•The Austin American-Statesman's Danny Davis reported that former Texas Tech QB Baker Mayfield is planning to enroll at Oklahoma, and walk on in January. According to The Oklahoman's Jason Kersey, that was news to OU coach Bob Stoops, who said the Sooners weren't pursuing any transfer QBs. This story keeps getting stranger and stranger.

Art Briles - Big 12 Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/tag/_/name/art-briles)