sadly the new ownership of whataburger is slowly moving the older stores over to their food distribution, and the quality is going down when they do. all new whataburgers use this distributor and it shows. very disappointing, i hope the okc ones are able to hold off that change for as long as possible

I had Whataburger at the I-35 location in Edmond recently and it was awful. Truly disgusting stuff. It’s sad because their food was very good, but based on that, I won’t be back anytime soon.

you mentioned a bunch of places that are in a different category then in n out .. (so they should be better)


IN n out's competes with Mcdonalds burger king and wendys .. that is what it is it is fast food .... just happens to be the best in its category ..


and last i checked Mcdonalds still does very well

What is considered fast food anymore? Sitting in a Drive Thru for 10 minutes? Yeah In N Out is more on the quicker service side but I have waited less at those place I have mention before than I have at In N out or Mcdonalds, or wendy's at certain times of the day.

I had Whataburger at the I-35 location in Edmond recently and it was awful. Truly disgusting stuff. It’s sad because their food was very good, but based on that, I won’t be back anytime soon.

I have also been disappointed every time I've gone to Whataburger for quite a while now. I thought it was just me, but evidently not.

INO is pretty good for fast food and I think a large part of their current appeal is that we don't have them readily available.

The holy trinity of "Burger Places Not In Oklahoma" are all in and around Frisco/Plano - INO, Culver's, and Shake Shack. Of the three, I would hope for Shake Shack first in OKC.

I'd love a Culver's.

I'd love a Culver's.

Ah, a good Butter Burger. Way better than InO. Similar to Braum's, but different.

Glad others have noticed the drop in quality at Whataburger. As soon as they sold to that group out of Chicago I figured this would happen. I used to love their burgers but they just taste off now.

Whataburger is ass. It's so awful.


That out of the way, it's ridiculous that In-n-Out is in Denver and soon Albuquerque, but OKC or Tulsa don't have it. It's high time they expanded into Oklahoma.

Glad others have noticed the drop in quality at Whataburger. As soon as they sold to that group out of Chicago I figured this would happen. I used to love their burgers but they just taste off now.

Maybe I'm the odd man out here, but for whatever it's worth, I haven't noticed any decline in the flavor/quality of the items I typically order from Whataburger. Not discounting the experiences reported in here, but maybe I'm not getting the same things y'all are getting? I'm usually going for the Patty Melt, the Sweet & Spicy Bacon burger, or a bacon & cheese Whataburger, and those all taste just like they used to - to me at least. Same with the fries and onion rings. I'm also a big fan of the chili cheeseburger lto they currently have. Breakfast is just as good as it always has been too - especially since they brought back the jalapeno cheddar biscuits. The only thing that's been really off to me since the sale has been service; with few exceptions, it just takes forever to get my orders nowadays even if I order online.

That said, I'd welcome In-n-Out if they came to OKC without hesitation. They do make a darn tasty fast-food burger, even if it's not my top favorite... and it'd be nice to have the option.

Maybe I'm the odd man out here, but for whatever it's worth, I haven't noticed any decline in the flavor/quality of the items I typically order from Whataburger. Not discounting the experiences reported in here, but maybe I'm not getting the same things y'all are getting? I'm usually going for the Patty Melt, the Sweet & Spicy Bacon burger, or a bacon & cheese Whataburger, and those all taste just like they used to - to me at least. Same with the fries and onion rings. I'm also a big fan of the chili cheeseburger lto they currently have. Breakfast is just as good as it always has been too - especially since they brought back the jalapeno cheddar biscuits. The only thing that's been really off to me since the sale has been service; with few exceptions, it just takes forever to get my orders nowadays even if I order online.

That said, I'd welcome In-n-Out if they came to OKC without hesitation. They do make a darn tasty fast-food burger, even if it's not my top favorite... and it'd be nice to have the option.

Whataburgers food and service has been bad for a long time now.

Freddie's is better, and better than In-n-Out.

Whataburgers food and service has been bad for a long time now.

Freddie's is better, and better than In-n-Out.

Everyone likes different things. I tried Freddie's once and have never been back.

I think Whataburger is the same as it’s always been for the 50 years it’s been sold in OKC. I eat their food couple times a week. Usually good. Sometimes not. Just like the other fast food joints I go to.

In-n-Out is great and I will not tolerate slander.

I think they will show up eventually. These franchises have to be careful though. The market is very competitive. I remember Five Guys was the next big thing and I noticed the one on Northwest Expressway closed. I think the fact that In-n-Out doesn't franchise to third parties gives them a slight advantage in terms of quality control and over saturation.

In-n-Out is great and I will not tolerate slander.

I think they will show up eventually. These franchises have to be careful though. The market is very competitive. I remember Five Guys was the next big thing and I noticed the one on Northwest Expressway closed. I think the fact that In-n-Out doesn't franchise to third parties gives them a slight advantage in terms of quality control and over saturation.

Five Guys is like $28 per burger now. I dont know why anyone would go there.

In-n-Out is great and I will not tolerate slander.

I think they will show up eventually. These franchises have to be careful though. The market is very competitive. I remember Five Guys was the next big thing and I noticed the one on Northwest Expressway closed. I think the fact that In-n-Out doesn't franchise to third parties gives them a slight advantage in terms of quality control and over saturation.

Five Guys is delicious but it's hard to justify $25 for a burger/fries/drink.

I was raised on a Braum's burger and will always prefer that burger over most fast food burgers. That being said I think Spark feels like a fast food place, but has a great burger that does not taste like fast food!

Five Guys is delicious but it's hard to justify $25 for a burger/fries/drink.

In N Out Hamburger combo is $8.89.

Having worked in QSR for 30 years it really comes down to hope much the employees care, and what time of day your going. You Lunch crews tends to working there longer are older and care more about their jobs than the evening kids crew where they will serve you anything and not care.

In and Out have good burgers but their fries are trash

In N Out Hamburger combo is $8.89.

Funnily enough, Five Guys is the only one remotely close to worth the price.

I think Whataburger is the same as it’s always been for the 50 years it’s been sold in OKC. I eat their food couple times a week. Usually good. Sometimes not. Just like the other fast food joints I go to.

Agree. Haven't noticed an issue with food quality at WB. Usually go to the Norman store, and stopped for a while due to extremely slow service, 30+ minute wait time for an in store order, and if ordered ahead 15-20 min. would still have 10-15 min wait.

But recently they have been on top of things.

Funnily enough, Five Guys is the only one remotely close to worth the price.

Five Guys is more expensive than Red Robin, which is crazy.

Five Guys is more expensive than Red Robin, which is crazy.

It was more a shot at INO, which is severely overrated.

In N Out Hamburger combo is $8.89.

in n out is fast food



5 guys is not

in n out is fast food



5 guys is not
The hell you say?

The hell you say?

No, Boulder is correct. Five Guys is not fast food - they do not prioritize speed of service and convenience, they prioritize quality. Hamburgers are cooked fresh to order. They also don't have drive-thru windows. That puts them solidly in the "fast-casual" category. (This is also the case for Shake Shack, btw)

While In-n-Out is very high quality, they do prioritize speed of service and as a result they have a drive-thru window. This puts them in the "quick service" (or QSR) category.

Although sometimes there is some overlap, these are pretty well-defined categories in the foodservice industry.

Maybe I'm the odd man out here, but for whatever it's worth, I haven't noticed any decline in the flavor/quality of the items I typically order from Whataburger. Not discounting the experiences reported in here, but maybe I'm not getting the same things y'all are getting? I'm usually going for the Patty Melt, the Sweet & Spicy Bacon burger, or a bacon & cheese Whataburger, and those all taste just like they used to - to me at least. Same with the fries and onion rings. I'm also a big fan of the chili cheeseburger lto they currently have. Breakfast is just as good as it always has been too - especially since they brought back the jalapeno cheddar biscuits. The only thing that's been really off to me since the sale has been service; with few exceptions, it just takes forever to get my orders nowadays even if I order online.

That said, I'd welcome In-n-Out if they came to OKC without hesitation. They do make a darn tasty fast-food burger, even if it's not my top favorite... and it'd be nice to have the option.

I was going to post a similar comment. I don't go to WB very often now, but used to go weekly, but the burgers I've had recently have been just as good as ever. I almost always go to the location on Penn, near Memorial, and that's always been a good one. Very consistent food and service, for years.

In and Out have good burgers but their fries are trash
I think their fries are awesome. I like the plain or animal style. Their shakes are amazing as well.

There's people on here who keep saying this place is bad or I wont go - so therefore it shouldn't come to OKC. However, the sign if a great city is one that has CHOICES. YOU may not like it or may not go but that doesnt mean somebody else wont. Furthermore, as a growing tourist destination it is great for OKC to have a few familiar places that visitors can feel comfortable with OR view OKC as an up and coming place.

I'd put In N Out, Shake Shack, and Culvers in that category of "must haves" for the in-crowd cities. Sure, there's MUCH better burger joints in OKC but having that cache of national restaurants elevates okc just llike having an NBA team does (well - maybe not exactly but you get the idea). Choices!

In-in-Out just opened their first location in Idaho with two more coming. Also announced that they will be expanding into New Mexico by 2027

In and Out have good burgers but their fries are trash

That’s funny because their fresh hand cut fries are one of the main reasons the chain is so popular. Same with 5 Guys in the east. Because you prefer another type of fries doesn’t make them “trash”. That just seems like hyperbole when someone thinks their taste represents everyone’s taste.

That’s funny because their fresh hand cut fries are one of the main reasons the chain is so popular. Same with 5 Guys in the east. Because you prefer another type of fries doesn’t make them “trash”. That just seems like hyperbole when someone thinks their taste represents everyone’s taste.

i find it funny because i'm the exact opposite from him as well. the fries are the only reason i will occasionally go to In-n-Out. i would rather have a braums burger over theirs.

IN-N-Out will open next to the new arena in 2030. Count on it. :)

There's people on here who keep saying this place is bad or I wont go - so therefore it shouldn't come to OKC. However, the sign if a great city is one that has CHOICES. YOU may not like it or may not go but that doesnt mean somebody else wont. Furthermore, as a growing tourist destination it is great for OKC to have a few familiar places that visitors can feel comfortable with OR view OKC as an up and coming place.

I'd put In N Out, Shake Shack, and Culvers in that category of "must haves" for the in-crowd cities. Sure, there's MUCH better burger joints in OKC but having that cache of national restaurants elevates okc just llike having an NBA team does (well - maybe not exactly but you get the idea). Choices!

I don't really see why In-N-Out, Shake Shack, and Culvers are considered must-haves. When people travel to different cities, will the majority of them opt for the most popular local restaurants or acclaimed chefs? A thriving local food scene is much more attractive to foodies; that's why cities like Portland, OR, or Asheville, NC, receive the rave reviews they deserve.

I just want it for the name. I don’t care if I get to eat it again but I just want the validation lol.

I don't really see why In-N-Out, Shake Shack, and Culvers are considered must-haves. When people travel to different cities, will the majority of them opt for the most popular local restaurants or acclaimed chefs? A thriving local food scene is much more attractive to foodies; that's why cities like Portland, OR, or Asheville, NC, receive the rave reviews they deserve.

I think most travellers that are driving prefer somehing familiar and are not per se "foodies". More people are transitting OKC on 40 and 35 then OKC being the end destination. Not the same dynamic as either Portland or Asheville.

IN-N-Out will open next to the new arena in 2030. Count on it. :)

More likely at freeway off ramps than in urban area. Shake Shack way more likely.

It’ll be nice when you’re drunk and want a decent burger.

In-N-Out is the best!! Can’t wait till we see one here.

More likely at freeway off ramps than in urban area. Shake Shack way more likely.

Yep they'll be at the outlet mall or memorial road before they'll be downtown, unless downtown get some restaurants that will stick

Yep they'll be at the outlet mall or memorial road before they'll be downtown, unless downtown get some restaurants that will stick

Doubt the outlet mall unless the area around the outlet mall does a complete 180. The viable locations atm for Okc (if they ever come) are the areas around Penn Square or Quail or both (so Memorial). All you have to do is look to their footprints outside of California to determine this. They are in high traffic area with little to no crime- think more of destination locations.

IN-N-Out will open next to the new arena in 2030. Count on it. :)

And if its not, we would be still talking about it for almost 20 years at that point.

I've tried In-N-Out 3-4 times, it's OK, I don't see what the hype is all about. I've had better burgers at local places in Norman and OKC.

I've tried In-N-Out 3-4 times, it's OK, I don't see what the hype is all about. I've had better burgers at local places in Norman and OKC.

That is my thought about Whataburger. They are ok but have a cult following also. I do like In-n-out though and will visit one when in Texas but certainly not going to wait in huge lines or drive across town for. Now The Halal Guys...... my wife and kids are in Dallas today and they took the yeti to bring hot Halal Guys home. FYI...8 platters will fit in a yeti and will still be hot after the drive from Dallas to OKC. Pro-tip.....just have the platters made with all rice and no salad so the salad doesn't get gross.

https://thehalalguys.com/ Their sauces are amazing and the hot sauce is incredibly hot.

I've tried In-N-Out 3-4 times, it's OK, I don't see what the hype is all about. I've had better burgers at local places in Norman and OKC.

what "local" fast food places exist in Norman and OKC that have better burgers?? ... because that is what IN-n-Out is FAST FOOD>.... they don't try or claim to be anything else ..

In-in-Out just opened their first location in Idaho with two more coming. Also announced that they will be expanding into New Mexico by 2027

I wonder if you will bwe able to get a green chile In-in-Out burger!!!! :tongue:

In-N-Out is good. I don't understand people who have super intense opinions on fast food places in general. It's not a life changing experience or anything but its very tasty.

In-N-Out9 is good. I don't understand people who have super intense opinions on fast food places in general. It's not a life changing experience or anything but its very tasty.

I'm guessing it has more to do with "validation". Same with Buc-ees

In-N-Out is good. I don't understand people who have super intense opinions on fast food places in general. It's not a life changing experience or anything but its very tasty.

Completely agree. In-n-Out is just that, fast food. It's simply a matter of having another place to have lunch, instead of having the same stuff, or making my own food. It's not a matter of In-n-Out being better or worse than Braums or Whataburger or Wendy's or something local. It's just having something different as well as finally getting a big national name into our city/area.


Plus, it's easy. In-n-Out is food, so if you don't like it, just...don't get it. I, for one, would love to have it here.

I'm guessing it has more to do with "validation". Same with Buc-ees

Bucees is worth getting worked up for.... at least the BBQ sandwiches. :)

It's just having something different as well as finally getting a big national name into our city/area.

The irony is that the bigger and more national it is, the less "validation" there is for having one. I think maybe only one or two fast food restaurants in the top 30 by location doesn't have a location here.

With about 400 locations in 7 states, In N Out isn't that big, relatively, and isn't national.

The validation craving is never sated. I recall when "if we could just get a Cheesecake Factory" and "if only we had a PF Chang's" were the phrases of the day. Well, they finally arrived, and you, me and everyone else has basically forgotten about them. Old hat. The same can be said for retail such as Whole Foods, West Elm, Container Store, Restoration Hardware, etc. Is it nice to have those places? Of course. Would we be somehow less of a city of one or more of those were missing? Not really.

Very true.

I think, for me, whenever we do land one of the desired chains, I end up going maybe once or twice then rarely go to the one here and then never go to it when I travel.

I usually hit In N Out if I can when I'm visiting somewhere that has them, but I suspect that if we get one here, I wouldn't go with any real frequency and probably would just stop going altogether when I'm in one of their other markets. There's no doubt it would do well, though.

Dallas got it, so we want it!

Completely agree. In-n-Out is just that, fast food. It's simply a matter of having another place to have lunch, instead of having the same stuff, or making my own food. It's not a matter of In-n-Out being better or worse than Braums or Whataburger or Wendy's or something local. It's just having something different as well as finally getting a big national name into our city/area.


Agreed........not like we would be getting something really validating and the king of drunk 2 am food.....white castle!!

what "local" fast food places exist in Norman and OKC that have better burgers?? ... because that is what IN-n-Out is FAST FOOD>.... they don't try or claim to be anything else ..


The thread just say "In-N-Out" burgers, doesn't say any thing about fast ood.

Pub W, 405 Burgers, O'Connels, Legends, Vans

The thread just say "In-N-Out" burgers, doesn't say any thing about fast ood.

Pub W, 405 Burgers, O'Connels, Legends, Vans

If a thread just said "McDonald's" would you compete it to Chili's or New State? No, because those are sit-down restaurants, not fast food. Or Freddie's steak burger to Mahogany.

Same difference.

If a thread just said "McDonald's" would you compete it to Chili's or New State? No, because those are sit-down restaurants, not fast food. Or Freddie's steak burger to Mahogany.

Same difference.

thank you

thank you

OK, sure, go with that one, it's good practice when you run for office.

If it didn't specify "fast food" yes, I would. But who's to argue details!

Completely agree. In-n-Out is just that, fast food. It's simply a matter of having another place to have lunch, instead of having the same stuff, or making my own food. It's not a matter of In-n-Out being better or worse than Braums or Whataburger or Wendy's or something local. It's just having something different as well as finally getting a big national name into our city/area.


Plus, it's easy. In-n-Out is food, so if you don't like it, just...don't get it. I, for one, would love to have it here.

This is 100% how I see it too. It gives me more options when I'm hungry and want a fast-food burger. While I wouldn't say In-n-Out's burgers are mindblowing or anything, they do make a solid burger that I crave on occasion. It would be nice to have one if possible. It's the same way I feel about Culver's or White Castle or Krystal's.

There is a slight bit of validation to having them here, in that it means we really are growing as a city; the larger a city/metro area is, the more diverse restaurants it can support. So it's cool from that standpoint too, but not a driving force as to why I would want In-n-Out to open a store here.