Awesome!!

I can see my neighbors readying their torches and pitch forks from my house... Hopefully nimbyism doesn't become an issue on this.


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I can see my neighbors readying their torches and pitch forks from my house... Hopefully nimbyism doesn't become an issue on this.


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Must close by 10 p.m. Patrons will only be allowed to sup and leave quietly. Having fun will be highly discouraged.

Seriously, I expect the NIMBYs to freak out about fire safety issues. They're going to suggest the patrons could turn into drunk arsonists.

Seriously, I expect the NIMBYs to freak out about fire safety issues. They're going to suggest the patrons could turn into drunk arsonists.

That sounds like a reasonable assumption to me. It happens everywhere when something like this opens. ;)

A few more of this project:



http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7186d1396020003-daebak-k-daebak8.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7187d1396020003-daebak-k-daebak9.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7188d1396020004-daebak-k-daebak10.jpg

That's just awesome. Love how much outdoor seating they have and the design of the building.

As they say in California; this is hella fine.

I love the rendering of Queen's Beauty Supply in the background.

"Like" X 1000

All of those outside talkers and yellers are gonna be the end of life as we know it in HH.

I am very impressed. This is excellent.

Insanely nice concept. They'd do good to construct a shade on the west-side…there will be some poor bartenders for a period of time in the evenings.

If the food is fantastic, they're gonna kill it.

FWIW, I can see my house in the Google satellite image and I will be strongly supporting this.

Man that is fantastic.

In what has now become a very clear and consistent pattern, several letters of opposition have already been received.

Particularly for anyone that lives in the area nearby, please consider writing a letter of support and/or attending the next Urban Design Committee meeting: Wednesday, April 23rd at 3PM in the City Council Chambers, 200 N. Walker.

Here are the details of the application: LINK (http://www.okc.gov/Access/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Planning&TabName=Planning&capID1=14SPZ&capID2=00000&capID3=00095&agencyCode=OKC&IsToShowInspection=)


This and the Guyutes projects are important pivot points: Do we allow a few homeowners to block hundreds of thousands of investment in what would be super sharp, creative projects that would bring life and nightlife to an important corridor? Or do we stand up and let decision makers know that they are in the minority and that the City is hungry for these types of places?

To whom, and at what address, should letters of support be addressed?

In what has now become a very clear and consistent pattern, several letters of opposition have already been received.

Particularly for anyone that lives in the area nearby, please consider writing a letter of support and/or attending the next Urban Design Committee meeting: Wednesday, April 23rd at 3PM in the City Council Chambers, 200 N. Walker.

Here are the details of the application: LINK (http://www.okc.gov/Access/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Planning&TabName=Planning&capID1=14SPZ&capID2=00000&capID3=00095&agencyCode=OKC&IsToShowInspection=)

This and the Guyutes projects are important pivot points: Do we allow a few homeowners to block hundreds of thousands of investment in what would be super sharp, creative projects that would bring life and nightlife to an important corridor? Or do we stand up and let decision makers know that they are in the minority and that the City is hungry for these types of places?

Where can we read the protest letters?

I just called the planning department.

Please send letters of support to: michael.philbrick@okc.gov.

Reference UDCA-14-00008; proposed Daebak K restaurant at 312 NW 23rd.

In what has now become a very clear and consistent pattern, several letters of opposition have already been received.

Particularly for anyone that lives in the area nearby, please consider writing a letter of support and/or attending the next Urban Design Committee meeting: Wednesday, April 23rd at 3PM in the City Council Chambers, 200 N. Walker.

Here are the details of the application: LINK (http://www.okc.gov/Access/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Planning&TabName=Planning&capID1=14SPZ&capID2=00000&capID3=00095&agencyCode=OKC&IsToShowInspection=)


This and the Guyutes projects are important pivot points: Do we allow a few homeowners to block hundreds of thousands of investment in what would be super sharp, creative projects that would bring life and nightlife to an important corridor? Or do we stand up and let decision makers know that they are in the minority and that the City is hungry for these types of places?that's it... I'm going to start attending these things to show support for them

Where can we read the protest letters?

They aren't made public until the agenda is released a few days before the meeting.

I'll post them when they become available.


Just heard that they have already received some.

They aren't made public until the agenda is released a few days before the meeting.

I'll post them when they become available.


Just heard that they have already received some.

Thanks for the update.

Sometimes I hate my neighbors. These people are idiots at times, its freaking unbelievable.

^

It really seems to be just a handful of people; the vocal minority.

Time to demonstrate they do not represent the prevailing attitudes of the neighborhood or the City, and take away their power.


This could be a catastrophic precedent. If they are allowed to block this, how will 23rd ever be properly developed?

Not sure why the planning department would even consider these. Pizza 23, Orange Leaf, etc all have been opened recently near that same stretch. I guess I will get to writing letters...

Not sure why the planning department would even consider these. Pizza 23, Orange Leaf, etc all have been opened recently near that same stretch. I guess I will get to writing letters...

Same here...

Thanks for the update.

Sometimes I hate my neighbors. These people are idiots at times, its freaking unbelievable.Yeah, I hear you. Am I allowed to attend these even though I live in Edmond?

It baffles me that someone can do something unequivocally within their rights as property owners (of these parcels on 23rd) and yet Homeowners can have any sway in any regard.

Simply put, if the Homeowner's have a problem, the onus should be on them to get the laws changed, but not to block development that literally follows ordinance to a T. Nothing that's been proposed on 23rd in the last year and a half has been even remotely questionable. The city should simply say to the homeowners "We appreciate your input, unfortunately, it has no sway given what is within the rights of said property owners".

At some point, is the city not putting itself at risk of a lawsuit by blocking these developments on grounds that are not legally justified?

I created an on-line petition that can be forwarded to the planning commission in advance of their meetings:

MoveOn Petitions - Support of Guyutes and Daebak K in OKC's Updtown District (http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/support-of-guyutes-and?source=c.em.cp&r_by=10327255)

Signed.

Signed.

Done

Signed

Signed and shared on Facebook!

Signed.

nm

I signed as well! 25 more signatures!

In.

We have signed as well

Already at 55 signatures.

Would be nice to get a couple of hundred before the meetings.

Wow - signed it too. I had no idea that people who actually live in the core of the city had objections to it's ongoing revitalization and development. Ridiculous! Who are these people and what are their objections? They don't want more good restaurants/shops/commerce in their neighborhood? Huh?

The owner of the building with Pizza 23 and Orange Leaf signed the petition.

I really doubt anyone is against this other than a very few homeowners to the south.

Wow - signed it too. I had no idea that people who actually live in the core of the city had objections to it's ongoing revitalization and development. Ridiculous! Who are these people and what are their objections? They don't want more good restaurants/shops/commerce in their neighborhood? Huh?

People will object to parking. (Not important because despite what they or any planning commissioners say parking is not required). And hours. Planning commission likes to talk about parking on and on and "concerns" to get consessions on other issues ie time

People will object to parking. (Not important because despite what they or any planning commissioners say parking is not required). And hours. Planning commission likes to talk about parking on and on and "concerns" to get consessions on other issues ie time

Gotcha. I wish we could just do away with the word. It's becoming increasingly irrelevant and is nothing but a barrier to developing a place people actually want to go. I used to complain about the parking situation when I went to visit friends in Chicago - then it struck me that well, I was the one dying to go to Chicago in the first place, so maybe I should just deal (or figure out that you can park at a garage on the CTA and just ride the El).

Signed. Retweeted. Told neighbors.

Signed and sent an e-mail.

The link is not working for me. Perhaps it is just down temporarily?

The link is not working for me. Perhaps it is just down temporarily?

Try this one:

MoveOn Petitions - Support of Guyutes and Daebak K in OKC's Uptown District (http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/support-of-guyutes-and)

Try this one:

MoveOn Petitions - Support of Guyutes and Daebak K in OKC's Uptown District (http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/support-of-guyutes-and)

Worked like a charm - thanks!

Hmmmm, petition signatures have slowed to a trickle. I've posted to FB three times and I think I've gotten about a dozen, but I'm getting the impression this has rolled off the bottom of everyone's news feed.

We've got time and we are close to 100 already.

I haven't even posted it yet on OKCT's Facebook or Twitter feeds.


Really good to see lots of local neighbors and businesses in support.

The owner of the building with Pizza 23 and Orange Leaf signed the petition.

I really doubt anyone is against this other than a very few homeowners to the south.

You're probably right, but it's dangerous to underestimate them. They've so far been successful in their NIMBY actions.

Surprisingly some of the protests seem to be coming from people deep into the neighborhood, no where near 23rd...


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Done.

Not sure how much good a West Texas address will do, but I signed it as well. This is the kind of place I'd like to go to when I'm back in town.

Signed, tweeted and facebooked!

Guh. I am totally in support and actually live in the neighborhood, but MoveOn...

...I think I'll send a letter to planning.

Pete,
Assuming that the petition ends up with three, four, or five hundred signatures, do you think it trumps a few complaint letters with HH/MP return addresses? Does it become just a stack of paper counted as an opinion, somewhat discounted because it was gathered online, or does it really send the pendulum the other way for these and future projects?

I'm so tired of so much official credence being given to parking when it shouldn't be given official consideration, and concern over the imagined noise and intoxicated patron issues. My bedroom (eight windows) quite literally backs up to Paseo Street, opposite Sauced. They regularly have music on the patio. I can't hear it unless a window is open and easily sleep through it. I never have issues with Paseo patrons on their way home. The only criminal issues I've had were two attempted muggings and theft of my vehicle back in 2004 when there were far fewer people on the streets at night and they were of a far different character that never spent a dime in the Paseo.

Also, do all the non-OKC addresses get discounted?

For what it's worth, I am so glad you started this petition. The support is awesome. I hope that it is effective in sending a message to the commission.

Guh. I am totally in support and actually live in the neighborhood, but MoveOn...

...I think I'll send a letter to planning.

Wut? Who cares?

Surprisingly some of the protests seem to be coming from people deep into the neighborhood, no where near 23rd...


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Actually, not very surprising. Busy bodies with a lot of time on their hands immersed in a pearl-clutching kerfuffle. Not surprising at all, because this has less to do with actual neighborhood concerns and more to do with perpendicular cultural paradigms.

Dibs on the band name "Perpendicular Cultural Paradigms", PCP for short of course...

Not sure how much good a West Texas address will do, but I signed it as well. This is the kind of place I'd like to go to when I'm back in town.

I explained in my e-mail that these are the types of developments that draw me from Texas to spend my money.