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Just the facts
11-05-2013, 07:08 PM
I'll pass it along to DOKC marketing staff with full credit to JTF. That said, getting KD to do a local commercial these days is no mean feat, I'm sure. Perhaps impossible.

Don't credit me - it was traxx's crazy imagination.

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Teo9969
11-05-2013, 08:28 PM
I'll pass it along to DOKC marketing staff with full credit to JTF. That said, getting KD to do a local commercial these days is no mean feat, I'm sure. Perhaps impossible.

Tell him it will help his home value

:lol2:

traxx
11-07-2013, 10:38 AM
Don't credit me - it was traxx's crazy imagination.

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Ha, sometimes my mind works in crazy ways. Okay, most of the time.

I just remember thinking, "He'll be close to work." Silly, I know.

traxx
11-07-2013, 10:40 AM
Storyboard for downtown OKC / general OKC promotion:

[Fade in...]
1. Durant wakes up, surveys his beautiful townhome, steps out onto his terrace with a skyline view to have his coffee
2. Now in warmups with ball under his arm, turns to his mother and says, "Mom, I'm going out to play".
3. Dribbling through Deep Deuce, with Calvary, Aloft and Level as a backdrop (-Hi Kevin! -Hi y'all!)
4. Dribbling along the canal... Stops in to say hello to friends at KD's. (-Hi Kevin! -Hi y'all!)
5. Dribbling through the Myriad Gardens, passes the skating rink and Park House Restaurant (-Hi Kevin! -Hi y'all!) with Devon Tower and the rest of the skyline in the background.
6. Dribbles right into the Peake; heads to the locker room (Team: Hi Kevin! KD looks at the camera and gets focused and serious: Hi y'all).
7. Game time!
8: Tag line: "OKC: It may be KD's world, but you can live in it."
[FTB]

That's cool. Love the tag line at the end. And I like him visiting his restaurant. I can just see KD dribbling to the arena and high fiving people on the way.

betts
11-07-2013, 10:43 AM
Storyboard for downtown OKC / general OKC promotion:

[Fade in...]
1. Durant wakes up, surveys his beautiful townhome, steps out onto his terrace with a skyline view to have his coffee
2. Now in warmups with ball under his arm, turns to his mother and says, "Mom, I'm going out to play".
3. Dribbling through Deep Deuce, with Calvary, Aloft and Level as a backdrop (-Hi Kevin! -Hi y'all!)
4. Dribbling along the canal... Stops in to say hello to friends at KD's. (-Hi Kevin! -Hi y'all!)
5. Dribbling through the Myriad Gardens, passes the skating rink and Park House Restaurant (-Hi Kevin! -Hi y'all!) with Devon Tower and the rest of the skyline in the background.
6. Dribbles right into the Peake; heads to the locker room (Team: Hi Kevin! KD looks at the camera and gets focused and serious: Hi y'all).
7. Game time!
8: Tag line: "OKC: It may be KD's world, but you can live in it."
[FTB]

I love the idea, but he doesn't have a terrace:). He removed them. So perhaps someone else's terrace!

Just the facts
11-07-2013, 11:10 AM
If he won't do it we could always go Bowfinger on him. :)

Bowfinger (1999) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0131325/)

soonerguru
11-10-2013, 01:26 AM
If you're not a married person attending a mega-church, your options in suburban OKC are obviously limited and depressing.

Richard at Remax
11-10-2013, 11:17 AM
If you're not a married person attending a mega-church, your options in suburban OKC are obviously limited and depressing.

Where's the "Dumb" button?

catch22
11-10-2013, 11:55 AM
If you're not a married person attending a mega-church, your options in suburban OKC are obviously limited and depressing.

Yep. Also take into the fact that people here get married early, very quickly you can find yourself on the other side of the curve.

Half of the people I graduated with are married or have been married. (I'm in my lower 20s)

HangryHippo
11-10-2013, 11:56 AM
If you're not a married person attending a mega-church, your options in suburban OKC are obviously limited and depressing.

Yep. Spot on.

bluedogok
11-10-2013, 03:17 PM
Yep. Also take into the fact that people here get married early, very quickly you can find yourself on the other side of the curve.

Half of the people I graduated with are married or have been married. (I'm in my lower 20s)
....and half of them will be divorced around 30. I skipped that step, we didn't get married until I was 39 and my wife was 38. I found quite a few women as well who were never married into their 30's.

catch22
11-10-2013, 03:35 PM
Yes, and some are already divorced. But, my point being, at this young age when friendships are important to the final stage of development, OKC is extremely isolating. Your friends are married, most have kids, finding someone to hang out with that isn't attached at the hip to their spouse is challenging. Personally, I'm depressed in this city.

bluedogok
11-10-2013, 04:02 PM
Yes, and some are already divorced. But, my point being, at this young age when friendships are important to the final stage of development, OKC is extremely isolating. Your friends are married, most have kids, finding someone to hang out with that isn't attached at the hip to their spouse is challenging. Personally, I'm depressed in this city.
I understand, I was in the same place. Even living in Dallas from 91-93 (age 27-29) didn't seem to really matter so I moved back to OKC. I had the same issue in OKC that my friends before were married, some had activities that we did (like sailing) but others were tethered to their spouse. I eventually found other people through work or friends to supplement that interaction. It really isn't unique to OKC, or an urban/suburban thing, it can happen anywhere. Back 20 years ago there was very little "urban life" in OKC and Bricktown was just starting to emerge. You can feel awfully "alone" in a large city like NYC and even in a city full of 20 somethings like Austin I have had co-workers feel the same way at times. I found for me it just seemed to be cyclical as life went along.

soonerguru
11-10-2013, 05:24 PM
Yes, and some are already divorced. But, my point being, at this young age when friendships are important to the final stage of development, OKC is extremely isolating. Your friends are married, most have kids, finding someone to hang out with that isn't attached at the hip to their spouse is challenging. Personally, I'm depressed in this city.

Catch, I thought of you last night when I went to Granddad's Bar. There were several obviously single men and women hanging out having a good time. I met most of my single friends through work-related activities when I was your age. Of course, the work I was in was highly social so I was constantly going to openings, dinners, Chamber events, etc.

Similarly, when I lived in NYC, most of the people I hung out with I met through work.

It seems like trite advice but I recommend getting involved in some kind of group that caters to an enthusiasm you have. A lot of folks your age are meeting people at the college they attend; obviously, that is a very social environment. What about taking a class or two in something that interests you?

catch22
11-10-2013, 05:26 PM
Catch, I thought of you last night when I went to Granddad's Bar. There were several obviously single men and women hanging out having a good time. I met most of my single friends through work-related activities when I was your age. Of course, the work I was in was highly social so I was constantly going to openings, dinners, Chamber events, etc.

Similarly, when I lived in NYC, most of the people I hung out with I met through work.

It seems like trite advice but I recommend getting involved in some kind of group that caters to an enthusiasm you have.
I was actually at Grandads with a few friends of mine last night. We went about 1030 and shut it down at 2. :p

soonerguru
11-10-2013, 05:27 PM
I was actually at Grandads with a few friends of mine last night. We went about 1030 and shut it down at 2. :p

Sorry I missed you! I started out there and ended up at Blue Note.

You might reread my post above as I've added a little bit to my commentary.

bchris02
11-10-2013, 06:56 PM
Yes, and some are already divorced. But, my point being, at this young age when friendships are important to the final stage of development, OKC is extremely isolating. Your friends are married, most have kids, finding someone to hang out with that isn't attached at the hip to their spouse is challenging. Personally, I'm depressed in this city.

This sounds exactly how I feel. Getting married to your high school sweetheart before you're old enough to drink seems like its simply part of the culture here. It's almost expected, especially in the suburbs. There is an entire stage of life people miss out on by tying themselves down so young. I feel like I am beyond the curve here and I am really not that old. When moving to OKC, I was actually very surprised to find such cultural pressure to pair up and settle down young in a city this large. Usually that is more common in rural areas.

I am currently debating whether biting the bullet and moving to downtown OKC next June when my lease runs out or simply moving to Dallas or Houston, providing I can find a job, is my best option. Personally I don't mind the suburbs. I don't need walkable, just want convenient. However, it seems like there is simply nowhere in suburban OKC that is fit for somebody who is still single past age 21 and just wants to have fun.

Do you live downtown, catch, or in the suburbs?

catch22
11-10-2013, 07:04 PM
This sounds exactly how I feel. Getting married to your high school sweetheart before you're old enough to drink seems like its simply part of the culture here. It's almost expected, especially in the suburbs. There is an entire stage of life people miss out on by tying themselves down so young. I feel like I am beyond the curve here and I am really not that old. I am currently debating whether biting the bullet and moving to downtown OKC next June when my lease runs out or simply moving to Dallas or Houston, providing I can find a job, is my best option. Personally I don't mind the suburbs. I don't need walkable, just want convenient. However, it seems like there is simply nowhere in suburban OKC that is fit for somebody who is still single past age 21 and just wants to have fun.

Do you live downtown, catch, or in the suburbs?

I live in the suburbs but spend all of my entertainment time exclusively in downtown and the inner city.

Edit: also planning on moving downtown in the next year or two. ($)

adaniel
11-10-2013, 07:17 PM
Yes, and some are already divorced. But, my point being, at this young age when friendships are important to the final stage of development, OKC is extremely isolating. Your friends are married, most have kids, finding someone to hang out with that isn't attached at the hip to their spouse is challenging. Personally, I'm depressed in this city.

I can definitely sympathize with this. And I think some people who are married and have friends that are married and who have never lived anywhere else don't get it and never will.

With that in mind though, I think it starts being a challenge anywhere to make friends and be social as one gets older and peers start to settle down, it just so happens to start here in OKC earlier than most. I had a friend who lived in the middle of freakin New York City and had a very hard time meeting people. As one gets older, you definitely have to start "putting yourself out there" and involve yourself a little more in things you like.

I would second plugging in to your job. Some people are so busy trying to cover their ass at work they can't take time to socialize. Which stinks because it is really the best opportunity to meet people post-college. I am fortunate that I work in a fairly young office, and while a lot are married few have kids. And we do hang out a lot. Without hashing out my rather lengthy previous post on this, IMO living in or near the urban core offers the best opportunities for things to do.

adaniel
11-10-2013, 07:22 PM
....and half of them will be divorced around 30. I skipped that step, we didn't get married until I was 39 and my wife was 38. I found quite a few women as well who were never married into their 30's.

I know so many people who got married the second they graduated college who are now 5 years later, separated, divorced, or engaging in affairs. Its really just ridiculous, and not necessarily limited to OKC. The worst thing is a few had kids, so now they will be raised in a broken home.

bchris02
11-10-2013, 07:25 PM
I know so many people who got married the second they graduated college who are now 5 years later, separated, divorced, or engaging in affairs. Its really just ridiculous, and not necessarily limited to OKC. The worst thing is a few had kids, so now they will be raised in a broken home.

That seems to be part of rural/Southern culture. People talk about why the Bible Belt has such high divorce rates, often with the intention of calling out Christians as being hypocrites. What they leave out of the discussion is how young people get married in those areas with high divorce rates. The national average age of first marriage right now is 28 for men, 26 for women. My guess is in OKC its a good 5-7 years earlier than that and 7-10 years in rural Oklahoma.

catch22
11-10-2013, 07:27 PM
I don't work with anyone my age or of similar interests outside a few that I do occasionally hang out with or run into in public. Anyway, this thread isn't about me or my problems :)

bchris02
11-10-2013, 07:40 PM
I don't work with anyone my age or of similar interests outside a few that I do occasionally hang out with or run into in public. Anyway, this thread isn't about me or my problems :)

Some very good points have been brought up in this thread though regarding OKC's desirability for educated young professionals and the city's ability to attract and retain them. It's a proven trend that educated people marry later and those are the type of people this city wants to attract and retain. This issue of early marriages and isolation seems to be a common denominator among twentysomethings who move here from elsewhere, especially those like myself, adaniel, and yourself who initially moved to the suburbs. In other cities, one can live in the suburbs and still get by but in OKC that is a lot more difficult simply because of the culture. If you are young and single in OKC, you almost HAVE to live downtown, and this is why continuing the downtown renaissance is so important.

soonerguru
11-10-2013, 08:04 PM
That seems to be part of rural/Southern culture. People talk about why the Bible Belt has such high divorce rates, often with the intention of calling out Christians as being hypocrites. What they leave out of the discussion is how young people get married in those areas with high divorce rates. The national average age of first marriage right now is 28 for men, 26 for women. My guess is in OKC its a good 5-7 years earlier than that and 7-10 years in rural Oklahoma.

I doubt that. It's probably more like 25 or 26. OKC is not immune to national trends, and millenials are waiting longer to get hitched.

bchris02
11-10-2013, 08:21 PM
I doubt that. It's probably more like 25 or 26. OKC is not immune to national trends, and millenials are waiting longer to get hitched.

OKC is a very fragmented place. What may be true for downtown OKC may not be for Edmond and far NW and vice versa.

bluedogok
11-10-2013, 09:09 PM
I know so many people who got married the second they graduated college who are now 5 years later, separated, divorced, or engaging in affairs. Its really just ridiculous, and not necessarily limited to OKC. The worst thing is a few had kids, so now they will be raised in a broken home.
There was a pretty good number of those who had done that by my 10 year high school reunion (in 1992), at the 20 year it seemed to be a bit more stabilized. I always joked that I went through enough of my friends divorces that I was waiting until I was ready. I never did have the parental pressure to get married early even though my parents did. My sister is 12 years younger and married 5 years before I did after graduating from UCO.

Teo9969
11-11-2013, 12:23 AM
I live in the suburbs but spend all of my entertainment time exclusively in downtown and the inner city.

Edit: also planning on moving downtown in the next year or two. ($)

Where in the "suburbs"? You really don't need to live downtown to enjoy many of its benefits. I'd say find a place anywhere in the core, especially if it's near Classen or 235, and you can get downtown in 3 to 8 minutes.

adaniel
11-11-2013, 12:42 AM
OKC is a very fragmented place. What may be true for downtown OKC may not be for Edmond and far NW and vice versa.

I would say the average age is inching up across the area. But you will always have townies who are a bit behind the times and think that you are an old maid at 23.

Plutonic Panda
11-11-2013, 01:51 AM
If you're not a married person attending a mega-church, your options in suburban OKC are obviously limited and depressing.That post is full of sh*t and you know it man. That couldn't be further from the truth and I know plenty of people who have gotten married outside from a mega church. I know, I know, they will probably get divorced soon, sort of like people will stop driving cars, suburbs will eventually fall into poverty, Texas will eventually collapse under its debt for building mega-highways etc. It's always right around the corner, yes. . .

Anyways, it seems that you're telling me my love life is hopeless, if that is so, sucks for me. :(

catch22
11-11-2013, 07:22 AM
Where in the "suburbs"? You really don't need to live downtown to enjoy many of its benefits. I'd say find a place anywhere in the core, especially if it's near Classen or 235, and you can get downtown in 3 to 8 minutes.

Southwest side (104th).

soonerguru
11-11-2013, 11:24 AM
That post is full of sh*t and you know it man. That couldn't be further from the truth and I know plenty of people who have gotten married outside from a mega church. I know, I know, they will probably get divorced soon, sort of like people will stop driving cars, suburbs will eventually fall into poverty, Texas will eventually collapse under its debt for building mega-highways etc. It's always right around the corner, yes. . .

Anyways, it seems that you're telling me my love life is hopeless, if that is so, sucks for me. :(

Not at all what I said. Read closer.

bchris02
11-11-2013, 11:55 AM
I think the point is its difficult to develop a social network in the suburbs if you are single, a transplant, and past your twenty-first birthday because most of your peers are married and settling down. This is especially true in the religious community. For those who are in college, be it at UCO, OU, etc the situation is different. Personally I like many things about suburban life and it's not this way in other cities, but here, if you are out of college and aren't married and having kids, suburban life can be isolating. I would love to be proven wrong on this but it has been my experience as well as the experience of many others here.