Through our numerous sources in economic development, real estate and construction, we have very good information on several key new developments which will feature a number of retailers and entertainment venues that will be completely new to OKC and the state.

* = First reported on OKCTalk.com

Chisholm Creek is a huge planned development on the south side of Memorial, between Penn and Western.


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/chisholmcreek1.jpg

We have also heard that Cabela's* (http://www.cabelas.com/) has also signed an MOU and will be located near Costco. Cabela's is a massive outdoors / sporting goods store, with a typical size of 80,000 square feet.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/cccabelas.jpg

We understand TopGolf* (http://topgolf.com/) -- who had previously announced (http://www.okctalk.com/suburban-development-buildings/34664-skybox-golf-range-planned-think-top-golf.html#post686172) they are actively looking for an OKC location -- in nearing a deal in this same project. Very interesting, as a local group of developers had just announced a very similar concept just a mile to the west, called Skybox Golf (http://www.okctalk.com/suburban-development-buildings/34664-skybox-golf-range-planned-think-top-golf.html#post674807).

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/cctopgolf1.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/cctopgolf2.jpg

We've also heard that Crate & Barrel is another possibility, as is a second OKC location for Whole Foods.

Closest to the Western & Memorial intersection will be a large Healthplex. On 8/13/13, those 8 acres were sold for $3.489 million to a local LLC which plans to develop a large complex on that site:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/cchealthplex.jpg

Besides TopGolf and Skybox, another huge entertainment chain is set to enter the state for the first time on the north side of Memorial, just west of Western: Main Event* (http://www.okctalk.com/suburban-development-buildings/35231-main-event-coming-okc.html#post694358). Typically 60,000 square feet, Main Event focuses on families with bowling, arcade, restaurant, miniature golf and other activities all under one large roof.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/ccmainevent1.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/ccmainevent2.jpg

At Quail Springs Mall, construction is well underway to convert the former Sears building to the state's first Von Maur Department Store (http://www.vonmaur.com/), which is slightly more upscale than Macy's or Dillard's. See construction photos here (http://www.okctalk.com/suburban-development-buildings/33831-quail-springs-mall-finally-its-own-thread-5.html#post682543).

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/ccvonmaur.jpg

We've also heard (http://www.okctalk.com/suburban-development-buildings/34910-h-m-possibly-coming-quail-springs.html) that international clothier H&M* (http://www.hm.com/us/) is close to announcing a deal for Quail Springs, which will be another first for the state. H&M specializes in fashionable clothing for men and women at reasonable prices, and has quite a loyal following.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/cchm.jpg

And finally, Hobby Lobby just purchased land (http://www.okctalk.com/suburban-development-buildings/34047-hobby-lobbys-hemispheres-coming-quail-springs-area.html) near Quail Springs (behind Home Depot) to open a location for their Hemipheres* (http://www.hemispheres-us.com/) furniture and accessories store.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/cchemispheres.jpg

All of this on the heals of GolfSmith* (http://www.golfsmith.com/) taking the old Ultimate Electronics space (http://www.okctalk.com/suburban-development-buildings/32518-golfsmith-take-old-ultimate-electronics-space-memorial.html#post594836), Dick's Sporting Goods opening a new location, and several other new retailers coming to this corridor.


One other intriguing possibility for Chisholm Creek is for an OKC location of The Rustic (http://therusticrestaurant.com/)*, just opened in Dallas. A huge restaurant, beer garden and concert venue, they are considering doing something very similar as a part of this development.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/ccrustic1.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/ccrustic2.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/ccrustic3.jpg

Some good stuff going in, just wish it was on the other side of town.

This looks like a significant development, and a good cut above the typical retail development in OKC. I hope it actually pans out like this.


Some good stuff going in, just wish it was on the other side of town.

As in downtown or I-240/35/Norman? Most of this stuff is better fit for a suburban area like Memorial, with the exception of the Rustic which would be perfect in a place like Midtown.

Oh Pete - Costco and Cabelas and Crate & Barrel (yes I am obviously multi-dimensional).... be still my retail loving heart.

The Rustic could help propel that area into OKC's "cool" suburban spot. Most cities have at least one suburban area that is attractive to young professionals and is a "cool" alternative to living downtown for those who want an active lifestyle but are on a budget. In Charlotte it is Ballantyne. Maybe this could be the equivalent for OKC?

Anyways, its great that OKC may finally be getting a decent retail development with new retailers to the state. This may be the first time in my memory that OKC has gotten something like this before Tulsa.

This looks like a significant development, and a good cut above the typical retail development in OKC. I hope it actually pans out like this.



As in downtown or I-240/35/Norman? Most of this stuff is better fit for a suburban area like Memorial, with the exception of the Rustic which would be perfect in a place like Midtown.

Yes I'd rather it be on 240, but that's cause I live south of the airport. I'd still end up making a drive to go up there, but only if I was visiting multiple places.

I might drive up there for Crate and Barrel on occasion. But, with its proximity to Edmond, I love the fact that these will generate sales tax for OKC instead.

I might drive up there for Crate and Barrel on occasion. But, with its proximity to Edmond, I love the fact that these will generate sales tax for OKC instead.

unfortunately we'll be forever slaves to the almighty sales tax dollar...

This looks like a significant development, and a good cut above the typical retail development in OKC. I hope it actually pans out like this.



As in downtown or I-240/35/Norman? Most of this stuff is better fit for a suburban area like Memorial, with the exception of the Rustic which would be perfect in a place like Midtown.

Midtown is getting a place like this DustBowl/Fassler Hall

This looks like a significant development, and a good cut above the typical retail development in OKC. I hope it actually pans out like this.



As in downtown or I-240/35/Norman? Most of this stuff is better fit for a suburban area like Memorial, with the exception of the Rustic which would be perfect in a place like Midtown.

Don't count out the south side, especially the I44 corridor towards tri city. Although the density isn't there yet, there is a lot of money in that area. Looking at the homes being built in the Olde Tuscanys (1,2 ranches, etc), and Rio de Bella plus going back east to Rivendell, Cascata lakes, etc, there is a lot of higher income homes in this area. The homes in Olde Tuscany are anywhere from 400k to 1.2 million. This area is greatly underserved and the population is booming which is one of the reasons I believe Crest built such a nice store at 104/May.

Not saying that this development isn't in the right place as there is more money in the memorial corridor, just saying that I believe that this I-44 corridor will be the next area to develop as soon as the airport gets there projects done.

Yes I'd rather it be on 240, but that's cause I live south of the airport. I'd still end up making a drive to go up there, but only if I was visiting multiple places.

You may get your wish from the development between Portland and I-44 that is scheduled.

I'm watching how that Skybox Golf and Top Golf thing plays out.

That site selected for Skybox golf needs a lot of dirt work done to make it usable it seems.

You may get your wish from the development between Portland and I-44 that is scheduled.

That's what I'm hoping for.

Don't count out the south side, especially the I44 corridor towards tri city. Although the density isn't there yet, there is a lot of money in that area. Looking at the homes being built in the Olde Tuscanys (1,2 ranches, etc), and Rio de Bella plus going back east to Rivendell, Cascata lakes, etc, there is a lot of higher income homes in this area. The homes in Olde Tuscany are anywhere from 400k to 1.2 million. This area is greatly underserved and the population is booming which is one of the reasons I believe Crest built such a nice store at 104/May.

Not saying that this development isn't in the right place as there is more money in the memorial corridor, just saying that I believe that this I-44 corridor will be the next area to develop as soon as the airport gets there projects done.

I agree. That's why I was hoping the new I-44 retail development by Will Rogers World Airport would end up being more than a Wal-Mart shopping center, but right now it doesn't look like its going to be.

Pete - the Cabela's store may be one of their smaller stores, called Cabela's Outpost, which typically are around 40,000 sf. It looks like most of the new stores are going to be that size.

Nevermind. I looked at the site plan on the Chisholm Creek website and it shows that building to be over 100,000 sf.

One of the 2 golf bars will have to find another location. No way they can both make it beig that close together.

What is the web address for the development? I can't seem to find anything..

I only opened this thread cause I thought there was a bomb explosion on Memorial this morning!

With all this planned retail, though, the city really needs to consider widening Memorial with a third outside lane. between Penn & Memorial, which turn into dedicated right turn only lanes 500 feet from the intersections. This is really going to hamper future traffic!

I only opened this thread cause I thought there was a bomb explosion on Memorial this morning!

With all this planned retail, though, the city really needs to consider widening Memorial with a third outside lane. between Penn & Memorial, which turn into dedicated right turn only lanes 500 feet from the intersections. This is really going to hamper future traffic!

The City REALLY needs to plan to ban ALL automotive traffic in the area and provide massive parking lots--on Penn, both north and south of the proposed development--along with "Free" shuttle service into The Retail Zone and Helicopter Ferry Landing Zones for north and southbound vehicles, on Penn, driven by people not directly involved in The Shopping Experience who need to bypass it to get to and from work. There could also be Free Bicycle Racks for the adventurous. I'm not sure how to make this work for people employed by one of these retail giants, but that is a minor consideration, easily rectified.

If you think that is hyperbole, you haven't been in the area around Christmas.
Even without the implementation of the suggested solutions.
There are only so many cars that can fit into available driving/parking space.

I'm not sure what THEY could do about the "i wanna exit to shop" east/west traffic on The Kilpatrick, but I'm sure "THEY" could come up with something resembling a short-term solution to facilitate the smooth running of this Retail Paradise.

btw: Did you know that a lot of this area is in a major flooding zone?
Easy Fix: Bigger underground pipes. Or else something like Emergency Water Taxi Service.

Home - Chisholm Creek (http://chisholmcreekokc.com/)

The Germans have two words for this type of development:

1)Schlimmbesserung
2)Klusterfukke

(unless, of course, The Planning isn't influenced by The Money to discount Reality and Unintended Consequences)

(where the heck did i put Kelly Ogle's friggin' phone number . . .
Word on the street has it that the last surviving snail darter resides in
the least unspoiled part of "chisholm creek" and there are reports of
a whooping crane and a passenger pigeon in the vicinity. =)

Home - Chisholm Creek (http://chisholmcreekokc.com/)

Love the idea of a water fountain/light show.

If it's anything like the one at Branson Landing in Branson, MO, it will be a huge hit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-S81LSQIOw

Midtown is getting a place like this DustBowl/Fassler Hall

Meh...Rustic is a lot bigger and from the looks of it: interesting.

The Germans have two words for this type of development:

1)Schlimmbesserung
2)Klusterfukke

(unless, of course, The Planning isn't influenced by The Money to discount Reality and Unintended Consequences)

(where the heck did i put Kelly Ogle's friggin' phone number . . .
Word on the street has it that the last surviving snail darter resides in
the least unspoiled part of "chisholm creek" and there are reports of
a whooping crane and a passenger pigeon in the vicinity. =)

God I love German.

This is a great development if it comes to fruition and the kind of "Lifestyle Center" that OKC has needed. My initial impression is that it needs more Residential and while I don't expect resounding urban principles here, and structured parking with at least some street level retail, probably on the lot between the 2 Jr Anchor and the Restaurant with a pedestrian corridor between the garage and 2 Jr Anchor's from the Entertainment Anchor down to the Promenade. They could turn the 4 story office buildings into more residential, increase the height of the 2 office buildings by the Plaza.

Construction Crew Breaks Ground On St. Anthony Healthplex In OKC
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The 5-story building will be approximately 97,000 square feet and include an Emergency Department, Laboratory, a Diagnostic Imaging Suite, an MRI Suite and Physical Therapy. (artist rendering)
OKLAHOMA CITY -
Construction crews break ground on a new healthcare facility in north Oklahoma City.

On Wednesday, JE Dunn Construction broke ground on the St. Anthony Healthplex – North, located at 13401 North Western on the southwest corner of Memorial Road and Western in Oklahoma City.

The 5-story building will be approximately 97,000 square feet and include an Emergency Department, Laboratory, a Diagnostic Imaging Suite, an MRI Suite and Physical Therapy.

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Meh...Rustic is a lot bigger and from the looks of it: interesting.

Not doubting Petes sources but considering the Rustic opened just last weekend, I wouldn't expect this to open anytime soon up here.

Also, if I am not mistaken, this place is owned by Pat Green. So just guessing the music acts are limited to Texas Country/Red Dirt type acts. Sorry but I can't get excited about yet another country music venue no matter how nice it is. OKC has those in spades.

Not doubting Petes sources but considering the Rustic opened just last weekend, I wouldn't expect this to open anytime soon up here.

Also, if I am not mistaken, this place is owned by Pat Green. So just guessing the music acts are limited to Texas Country/Red Dirt type acts. Sorry but I can't get excited about yet another country music venue no matter how nice it is. OKC has those in spades.

Don't sell it short already. If it mixed in some Kings of Leon, Black Keys type rock as well, or some blues type acts, that could be awesome.

Not doubting Petes sources but considering the Rustic opened just last weekend, I wouldn't expect this to open anytime soon up here.

Didn't say it would be soon... Just that they've spoken with the owners, one of whom has OKC ties.

The whole Chisholm Creek development will be built out over a period of many years, as it's encompasses a massive amount of land.

However, they do want entertainment elements and with the right investors, these things can happen quickly when properly motivated.

If its built like it shows in the drawing, that will be great. It would also be great to have some sort of plaza with a fountain in the middle of the development capable of hosting live music. Many lifestyle centers in larger cities do that.

Is this the same development that had stalled a couple of years ago? I remember seeing "Coming Soon" ground level billboardish type signs near that intersection with the dates coming and going without anything happening??

This is a great development if it comes to fruition and the kind of "Lifestyle Center" that OKC has needed. My initial impression is that it needs more Residential and while I don't expect resounding urban principles here, and structured parking with at least some street level retail, probably on the lot between the 2 Jr Anchor and the Restaurant with a pedestrian corridor between the garage and 2 Jr Anchor's from the Entertainment Anchor down to the Promenade. They could turn the 4 story office buildings into more residential, increase the height of the 2 office buildings by the Plaza.

Wouldn't there be potential for that to happen on the acreage to the south of this project?

Meh...Rustic is a lot bigger and from the looks of it: interesting.

It would be tough to fit something that big in midtown IMHO. There wold have to be a lot on top of it take the huge footprint worth it.

Back On Topic:
An old preacher used to say, "What really matters is where the rubber meets the road."
No, he wasn't a new-fangled olde timey zen preacher, nor was he Yoda, rather just a regular old time sorta preacher.

When one extrapolates the current development concept, apparently under virtual consideration, this is one development that should be aborted one way or another unless something is done in relation to balancing tires, time and tedium (rather than the other sense of the term "rubber".)

If one should misapprehend that concept, one might be well advised to consider the German term Klusterfukke.

Unless, of course, THEY can build-in about four of those Helicopter Vehicle Transportation Ferry Stations (40 cars per load) at each end of the roadways approaching The Retail Paradise Formerly Known as Coffee Creek. The Turnpike would provide Free Access thru that region of Automotive Hell. (or, at least, Purgatory).

Wow. This is very interesting. I'll be a cynic until dirt is turned, but if it does come about, I'll be thrilled.

Obviously, I like the idea of these new retail and entertainment names. And the fact that, at present, it has urbanist principles is very encouraging. But honestly, the thing that excites me the most is this project's location.

For my entire life, the south side of Memorial/turnpike has been somewhat of a line of demarcation east of Penn. I think this has mostly to do with the perception and socioeconomic reality of the neighborhoods a couple of miles due south. Even as development has spread ever westward, there has been little to no "infill" in this area. It's been disconnected from the growth to the north and made the region seem disconnected somehow. If this all comes to pass, I think it will give developers "permission" to continue building to the east along the turnpike and MAYBE south towards 122nd. (although I don't see single family residential on a large scale in the OKC school district).

We'll see what happens but...bring it on.

Wow. This is very interesting. I'll be a cynic until dirt is turned, but if it does come about, I'll be thrilled.

Obviously, I like the idea of these new retail and entertainment names. And the fact that, at present, it has urbanist principles is very encouraging. But honestly, the thing that excites me the most is this project's location.

For my entire life, the south side of Memorial/turnpike has been somewhat of a line of demarcation east of Penn. I think this has mostly to do with the perception and socioeconomic reality of the neighborhoods a couple of miles due south. Even as development has spread ever westward, there has been little to no "infill" in this area. It's been disconnected from the growth to the north and made the region seem disconnected somehow. If this all comes to pass, I think it will give developers "permission" to continue building to the east along the turnpike and MAYBE south towards 122nd. (although I don't see single family residential on a large scale in the OKC school district).

We'll see what happens but...bring it on.

I agree. I am not going to bank on this project happening until the ground is turned. If it ends up happening, I'll be very thrilled.

I think Penn, Western, and Memorial need to be widened to six lanes in this area soon. This is great news though, very exciting. I will still be skeptical until dirt is moved, as stated previously, but this will be super cool if it happens!

Took a few screen shots from the site plan to give a preview for people who don't want to open the webpage:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5487/10319996796_c7f2ca7a3e_h.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3670/10319999246_a467095bc6_h.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2818/10320153533_c6474e4102_c.jpg

Cool. Very cool.

Is "Major Anchor" (lower right, just up from the "Music Venue" in the rendering) spelt rite?
Or should it be Major Anger? =)

(i am already hearing echos of disapproval from the snail darters and whooping cranes . . . =)

Please don't forget the traffic issues and drainage and etc . . .
(and do you really need both a "Light Show" AND "a Fountain" to highlite an artificial pond? geez louise)

And where's the hockey rink and soccer fields? =)

I agree. I am not going to bank on this project happening until the ground is turned. If it ends up happening, I'll be very thrilled.

A project like this is inevitable. There is too much money to be made.

A project like this is inevitable. There is too much money to be made.I believe you are right, but this is OKC and finding people whom are willing to "risk" it and go big as in just building the damn thing at once, instead of these "phases" and not going the cheap route like what happened with Belle Isle is going to be a challenge. I have faith in this and am hoping it will turn out as planned.

I also like the 8 story hotel, I would like a 15 story Intercontinental hotel placed somewhere along the service road up against the turnpike.

I believe you are right, but this is OKC and finding people whom are willing to "risk" it and go big as in just building the damn thing at once, instead of these "phases" and not going the cheap route like what happened with Belle Isle is going to be a challenge. I have faith in this and am hoping it will turn out as planned.

I agree with this. If this were any other city, I would say the project is inevitable, but given the history of retail developments here I can't help but have doubts. If this actually turns out as planned, then it will signal a HUGE shift in OKC's retail development history and set the bar much higher for future developments.

I agree with this. If this were any other city, I would say the project is inevitable, but given the history of retail developments here I can't help but have doubts. If this actually turns out as planned, then it will signal a HUGE shift in OKC's retail development history and set the bar much higher for future developments.True, very true. I am not sure if you are familiar with the development around the Stonebriar Mall in Frisco, Texas. . . but it is awesome!!!!! So many great stores in one place.

The City REALLY needs to plan to ban ALL automotive traffic in the area and provide massive parking lots--on Penn, both north and south of the proposed development--along with "Free" shuttle service into The Retail Zone and Helicopter Ferry Landing Zones for north and southbound vehicles, on Penn, driven by people not directly involved in The Shopping Experience who need to bypass it to get to and from work. There could also be Free Bicycle Racks for the adventurous. I'm not sure how to make this work for people employed by one of these retail giants, but that is a minor consideration, easily rectified.

If you think that is hyperbole, you haven't been in the area around Christmas.
Even without the implementation of the suggested solutions.
There are only so many cars that can fit into available driving/parking space.

I'm not sure what THEY could do about the "i wanna exit to shop" east/west traffic on The Kilpatrick, but I'm sure "THEY" could come up with something resembling a short-term solution to facilitate the smooth running of this Retail Paradise.

btw: Did you know that a lot of this area is in a major flooding zone?
Easy Fix: Bigger underground pipes. Or else something like Emergency Water Taxi Service.
But how would that affect the Braums access?

This will happen eventually. Maybe not all at once but will happen. It's the best large area left for this type of development and once a large anchor is secured like Costco or even better a cabelas, the rest will easily fall into place. Heck, the hospital is almost an anchor enough to get things going but then add a costco, it will happen. The folks behind it have the means to get it done too.

I agree with this. If this were any other city, I would say the project is inevitable, but given the history of retail developments here I can't help but have doubts. If this actually turns out as planned, then it will signal a HUGE shift in OKC's retail development history and set the bar much higher for future developments.

There is no need to slam OKC. Projects are proposed and fail to develop all over the country. It is not something unique to this city. No community gets 100%. The more prosperous a community is the more projects you will find that failed to come to fruition.

I believe you are right, but this is OKC and finding people whom are willing to "risk" it and go big as in just building the damn thing at once, instead of these "phases" and not going the cheap route like what happened with Belle Isle is going to be a challenge. I have faith in this and am hoping it will turn out as planned.

Most projects on this level, including the Stonebriar development you quoted, are built in phases over several years.


Don't sell it short already. If it mixed in some Kings of Leon, Black Keys type rock as well, or some blues type acts, that could be awesome.

I would think this is a distinct possibility with Pat Green's name, although I would think that the new Wormy Dog would have a better chance of luring said acts.

I didn't mean to come off so negative. Its probably best to judge things like this after they've been open after a while.

Most projects on this level, including the Stonebriar development you quoted, are built in phases over several yearsYes, but the phases are huge, not small time build 3-5 stores at a time.

There is no need to slam OKC. Projects are proposed and fail to develop all over the country. It is not something unique to this city. No community gets 100%. The more prosperous a community is the more projects you will find that failed to come to fruition.

I am not slamming OKC as a whole, but you have to admit solid retail developments haven't been a strong point of this city in recent decades especially compared to others its size. The only thing recent I can think of that hasn't been scaled down/cheapened unrecognizably is the outlet mall. If this development gets built as proposed, that is going to signal a huge turning point for this city.

I also like the 8 story hotel, I would like a 15 story Intercontinental hotel placed somewhere along the service road up against the turnpike.

On the east side of Blackwelder just east of the Church on the Rock would be a good spot!

But how would that affect the Braums access?

And THAT is yet ANOTHER flaw in the plan . . . . =)

Who is the contact for this project? Do they have a website?

Pretty hesitant to believe Costco and Crate and Barrel will come knowing the history of retail in this city. Those are nice stores for here. It's long over due though.

But how would that affect the Braums access?

Braums is on the north side of Memorial.

Pretty hesitant to believe Costco and Crate and Barrel will come knowing the history of retail in this city. Those are nice stores for here. It's long over due though.

Agree with this.

As much as I love this concept and think OKC is way overdue for such a district, I too have my doubts. I've heard for years that Costco would love to come to OKC, but the liquor laws are what keep them from pulling the trigger. Until we see real change to those laws, I doubt they'll make that move.

And while this area of town certainly has the population to support such a money-hungry district, does anyone have concerns about how the area south of it will impact it's popularity? I'd predict safety & theft being a pretty big issue.

I agree with this. If this were any other city, I would say the project is inevitable, but given the history of retail developments here I can't help but have doubts. If this actually turns out as planned, then it will signal a HUGE shift in OKC's retail development history and set the bar much higher for future developments.

Do you believe there is something indemic to Oklahoma City that will prevent it from making the sort of shifts in development you would like to see as the city gets older and more populous? I don't.

As much as I love this concept and think OKC is way overdue for such a district, I too have my doubts. I've heard for years that Costco would love to come to OKC, but the liquor laws are what keep them from pulling the trigger. Until we see real change to those laws, I doubt they'll make that move.


Did you miss the part of the first post of the thread where Pete noted a memorandum of understanding has been signed re: Costco?