One of the restaurants being built by Charleston's on Memorial will be a new concept to OKC called Revolve Pizza.
https://www.facebook.com/revolvepizza

Revolve Pizza Kitchen® (http://www.revolvepizza.com/#about-us)

Isn't this concept really similar to the Top That Pizza in Edmond?

Isn't this concept really similar to the Top That Pizza in Edmond?

This is a brick oven concept. It will produce a very different end product than what you might get at Top That Pizza, and they seem to be aiming for a considerably different atmosphere.

This is a brick oven concept. It will produce a very different end product than what you might get at Top That Pizza, and they seem to be aiming for a considerably different atmosphere.A lot of similarities to me: counter ordering with individual customization and oven cooks pizza in minutes. So I'd put it in the same class. I see they're trying to differentiate themselves by offering more items and making the atmosphere richer and more elegant.

I am just not convinced there is that great a demand for individual, customized pizza. But time will tell and I certainly wish them all the best because they're making a tremendous investment and effort.

I am just not convinced there is that great a demand for individual, customized pizza. But time will tell and I certainly wish them all the best because they're making a tremendous investment and effort.

I talked about this in another thread but there are a few chains that are doing this out here in California and they are booming.

Pieology just opened a location near me and many days there is a line out the door:

Pieology (http://www.pieology.com/)

I talked about this in another thread but there are a few chains that are doing this out here in California and they are booming.

Pieology just opened a location near me and many days there is a line out the door:

Pieology (http://www.pieology.com/)Yes, I recall that post. I tried the Top That the other day at Spring Creek Village. It was about lunch time and there were no customers really. I enjoyed the pizza a lot and would definitely do it again. I've been asking people about it and so many just tell me "I want a pepperoni pizza" that it makes me wonder how actually appealing the customizing part is. The speed is good but becomes less valuable if there is a line.

Hope they all work out.

A lot of similarities to me: counter ordering with individual customization and oven cooks pizza in minutes. So I'd put it in the same class. I see they're trying to differentiate themselves by offering more items and making the atmosphere richer and more elegant.

I am just not convinced there is that great a demand for individual, customized pizza. But time will tell and I certainly wish them all the best because they're making a tremendous investment and effort.

Potential Food Snob alert!
In Italy, there are two types of pizza. Pre-made (or Pizza by the Slice) and Made to Order. Perhaps its cultural, but once you're used to made to order (in a brick oven, no less), you'll never ask for anything else.

Potential Food Snob alert!
In Italy, there are two types of pizza. Pre-made (or Pizza by the Slice) and Made to Order. Perhaps its cultural, but once you're used to made to order (in a brick oven, no less), you'll never ask for anything else.When I was in Rome I liked that pizza from the street vendors but my wife shamed me every time I got a piece. She objected to the pooled oil on top apparently. I thought it was great.

In driving by today, it looks like the ground has been plowed in the location of the Costco and Cabela's on this map. I am not sure if that means anything or not or if that has anything to do with this project.

hm, is Pete right? :)

Steve's information is incorrect and I think he even knows this now.

He was relying on other reporters as that area is not his beat.

Actually, I was relying on real estate sources who were saying the Costco/etc stuff is not set, likely not happening. I hope the sources I heard from are wrong and Pete is right. But as of the last time I heard about all this, Pete and I remained in conflict on our sourcing. That happens. Sometimes my folks are wrong, and Pete's are right, sometimes my sources are right and Pete's are wrong. I'll leave the rest of this story up to Brianna and Richard.

Actually, I was relying on real estate sources who were saying the Costco/etc stuff is not set, likely not happening. I hope the sources I heard from are wrong and Pete is right. But as of the last time I heard about all this, Pete and I remained in conflict on our sourcing. That happens. Sometimes my folks are wrong, and Pete's are right, sometimes my sources are right and Pete's are wrong. I'll leave the rest of this story up to Brianna and Richard.

I see. I am not going to get my hopes up until something is announced. I would like to think Costco is coming to OKC but then again Tulsa may be more attractive to them and they may only want to have one location in the state right now, especially with the hold Wal-Mart/Sam's Club has over OKC. If Costco doesn't want to be situated within a certain distance of a Sam's Club, its possible they will never come to OKC as long as they have that criteria.

On a slightly different note, has anybody heard anything else about WinCo entering the OKC market? It was talked about back last spring and then nobody has mentioned anything else about it.

Has the ground been plowed, or scraped? There's a difference, and plowed would not be good news for a rumored impending development.

Im guessing there is a boatload of infrastructure (roads, drainage, water detention) construction that will have to be done before we see anything coming out of the ground.

None of which is likely to be happening soon if bchris02 is correct in saying the property has been PLOWED.

None of which is likely to be happening soon if bchris02 is correct in saying the property has been PLOWED.

Yeah, maybe the developers want to grow some cotton. lol

Im guessing there is a boatload of infrastructure (roads, drainage, water detention) construction that will have to be done before we see anything coming out of the ground.

Yep.

I've said several times that there is tons of engineering to do before they start building any part of the retail center.

Has the ground been plowed, or scraped? There's a difference, and plowed would not be good news for a rumored impending development.

How do you tell the difference?

How do you tell the difference?

City boys.......

How do you tell the difference?

Plowed would indicate farming...

Why would they plow it? Is that a joke or something? I saw it the other day and they cleared it, like they do with every other site when they get ready to building something on it.

Honestly, how would you tell the difference between plowing and scraping? Don't you have to scrape and clear the surface before you plow the ground to make way for a farm?

Plowed would indicate farming...

I know, but from driving by I can't tell the difference. I don't see why they would farm that land even if it's NOT Costco that is building on it, so it would have to have been scraped.

Wow....these conversations on here get really weird. Trust me, the owners don't intend to start farming.

Hey, I'm not the one who said the land was "plowed." There's land under cultivation inside the city limits all over the OKC metro. Thousand of acres of it.

I haven't checked out this thread for a while, but hopefully all the anticipated developments are taking shape. It would be pretty cool to have an area like this in town. Like I said a few pages ago, it reminds me a lot of all the developments near the Legends area in the KC metro on the KS side. There’s nothing wrong with having some nice suburban shopping developments.

On a side note, I was in NYC this last weekend (my first time in NYC), and my GF and I got off the subway and walked upstairs only to realize we were in the middle of the Manhattan Mall! It felt very weird, but at the same time very cool, to be in the middle of a shopping center like that in the middle of the city. I would hate figuring out how to get all my clothes back home if I went on a shopping spree in there though!

City boys.......

Lol, where is a Like button when ya need one?

I talked about this in another thread but there are a few chains that are doing this out here in California and they are booming.

Pieology just opened a location near me and many days there is a line out the door:

Pieology (http://www.pieology.com/)

Also:

| Craft Your Own! (http://www.pizzarev.com/) and Blaze Pizza - Fast-Fire'd Custom Built Artisanal Pizzas (http://www.blazepizza.com/)

Very trendy concept right now...

So, it looks like Costco won't be happening in this development if I understood the Costco thread. Are the other potenital businesses still on track or have other deals fallen through?

Anyone know how likely the Cabella's still is?

Anyone know how likely the Cabella's still is?

Steve mentioned Cabella's was close to a deal if I remember correctly.

So, it looks like Costco won't be happening in this development if I understood the Costco thread. Are the other potenital businesses still on track or have other deals fallen through?

No, still happening just slowly.

They will be going into a large development called Chisholm Creek and they have only just begun major engineering of a massive project. Costco probably won't happen here for at least a year.

And yes, I've heard Cabela's is still on but again, part of the same large development so all this will take time.

Ah, I must have misread then.

TopGolf CONFIRMED the are coming to OKC today via their facebook page by posting this video:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=471185043004245&notif_t=notify_me

Also in the comments section they confirmed it will be on Memorial & Western:

"TopGolf OKC: Near Quail Springs Mall, at the southwestern quadrant of N. Western Avenue and the John Kilpatrick Turnpike."

Where is the graphic that shows everything that is rumored to be coming to this area? It's an aerial view looking northwest and has the logos of the different businesses where they are rumored to be going.

Where is the graphic that shows everything that is rumored to be coming to this area? It's an aerial view looking northwest and has the logos of the different businesses where they are rumored to be going.

you referring to the one at the top of the page?

Where is the graphic that shows everything that is rumored to be coming to this area? It's an aerial view looking northwest and has the logos of the different businesses where they are rumored to be going.

At the top of this thread. If you are in mobile view that might be why you aren't seeing it.

I'm interested to know what the "upscale" grocer will be going into this development.

We've also heard that Crate & Barrel is another possibility, as is a second OKC location for Whole Foods.

in the message at the top.

you referring to the one at the top of the page?

Not showing up for me. I'm at work though so I bet it's being blocked by a filter.

Not showing up for me. I'm at work though so I bet it's being blocked by a filter.

Yup. I'm at home now and it shows up.

Just checked the Chisholm Creek site and it looks like the new site plan has moved the Top Golf to directly behind the new St. Anthony's Healthplex instead of farther back in the new development. It's closer to where the Cabela's was rumored to be. As an aside, it also looks like the area where the Costco was supposed to go doesn't look like a Costco anymore.
http://www.chisholmcreekokc.com/files/chisholm-creek-streetscape.jpg

There is signage about to go up on Penn in-between the Freddys and Discount Tire. I assume it's for this massive development

http://www.chisholmcreekokc.com/files/chisholm-creek-streetscape.jpg

I still think a Costco could fit in here.

I hope so. If they changed the original plan for Top Golf, I'm sure they could rearrange for Costco and Cabelas.

http://www.chisholmcreekokc.com/files/chisholm-creek-streetscape.jpg

I still think a Costco could fit in here.

Really the only things that will be built in that exact layout are the roads, Saint Anthony's, and now Top Shot. Everything else is very much up in the air and most likely to change.

I thought it would have been cool if the driving range was facing toward downtown. Would have been a good view from the second level at night! Oh well.

I thought it would have been cool if the driving range was facing toward downtown. Would have been a good view from the second level at night! Oh well.

That would be cool. They probably want people driving by on the turnpike to be able to see the action though. Would be cool if they could do it in both directions. :)

Food for thought: One discussed rail transit alignment out of the GO Central OK talks is for an LRT up Classen and then taking Western up to downtown Edmond. The wealth of additional activity nodes you serve by doing that versus using the BNSF or following the Broadway Extension is significant enough to justify the expense.

Imagine an LRT corridor like this: Downtown (Broadway/Robinson and across to the Plaza Court area), then Classen past 16th Street, 23rd Street/Gold Dome), Asian District, Putnam Heights, Belle Isle, Classen Curve, Chesapeake HQ, then Nichols Hills. That section alone would be extremely successful.

Then take it up Western through this development, making this development the LRT access point for the Memorial Road corridor (where maybe it could intersect with an express bus serving Memorial depending on existing bus line numbers), on its way up to downtown Edmond.

That would be a hell of a line.

Food for thought: One discussed rail transit alignment out of the GO Central OK talks is for an LRT up Classen and then taking Western up to downtown Edmond. The wealth of additional activity nodes you serve by doing that versus using the BNSF or following the Broadway Extension is significant enough to justify the expense.

Imagine an LRT corridor like this: Downtown (Broadway/Robinson and across to the Plaza Court area), then Classen past 16th Street, 23rd Street/Gold Dome), Asian District, Putnam Heights, Belle Isle, Classen Curve, Chesapeake HQ, then Nichols Hills. That section alone would be extremely successful.

Then take it up Western through this development, making this development the LRT access point for the Memorial Road corridor (where maybe it could intersect with an express bus serving Memorial depending on existing bus line numbers), on its way up to downtown Edmond.

That would be a hell of a line.

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Food for thought: One discussed rail transit alignment out of the GO Central OK talks is for an LRT up Classen and then taking Western up to downtown Edmond. The wealth of additional activity nodes you serve by doing that versus using the BNSF or following the Broadway Extension is significant enough to justify the expense.

Imagine an LRT corridor like this: Downtown (Broadway/Robinson and across to the Plaza Court area), then Classen past 16th Street, 23rd Street/Gold Dome), Asian District, Putnam Heights, Belle Isle, Classen Curve, Chesapeake HQ, then Nichols Hills. That section alone would be extremely successful.

Then take it up Western through this development, making this development the LRT access point for the Memorial Road corridor (where maybe it could intersect with an express bus serving Memorial depending on existing bus line numbers), on its way up to downtown Edmond.

That would be a hell of a line.

That does have a helluva lot of potential. Imagine that AND commuter rail on the BNSF corridor.

I like that a lot, but perhaps it should stick to the Classen corridor til Britton/Hefner? As narrow as Western is, can't see how it would accommodate rail..? Classen corridor still walkable to Western. The rest of it seems tailor-made.

It's fun to imagine. The hard part though would be getting the real estate to do it as well as what would have to be demolished to make it happen.

That's why I mentioned sticking to Classen. If you had to do any significant demolition along Western to fit in a rail route, you would lies the density that makes that street successful. Heck, they're just now working to make it more walkable.

Another positive for this idea is once you get the line up Classen, it isn't much of a stretch to run it up NW Expressway.

I think ideally at the Classen Circle it forks into a NW Expressway line and an Edmond line. We don't need a duplicate line a mile east. The Edmond to Classen Circle line somehow needs to make a meaningful connection with the Quail Springs area, and Western is as Far East as you can do that.

There is signage about to go up on Penn in-between the Freddys and Discount Tire. I assume it's for this massive development

It's up now. It says "Chisolm Creek Coming Soon" and then gives the website. I hope this isn't another Tuscana.

It's up now. It says "Chisolm Creek Coming Soon" and then gives the website. I hope this isn't another Tuscana.

They already have TopGolf going in so its already an improvement over Tuscana.

I have to say their sign is pretty boring and plain, but their still in the building roads, drainage, ponds, and other utilities phase so I'm not going to hold it against them. lol

There is another sign for Chisholm Creek on Memorial just West of the St. Anthony's HealthPlex site. Haven't seen the sign on Penn, but it sounds identical to the one I saw.

I sent Pete pics of Chisolm Creek progress last week. Hopefully he will get a chance to post soon!

They already have TopGolf going in so its already an improvement over Tuscana.

As long as there isn't a global financial crisis, I doubt it will end up like Tuscana.

I drove by there yesterday and it looks like there is some dirt moving on the far side of this property where the Costco was supposed to go. Whether or not Costco is still a part of this is a mystery but it appears that construction is starting to ramp up.

Found the national marketing brochure with a little more info for the Chisholm Creek development (which may need it's own thread now). Wow!

http://www.mdlco.com/files/Chisholm_CreekBrochure.pdf

"Chisholm Creek is a “mixed-use” development that is being created by a partnership made up of Medallion Management, of Oklahoma City, Retail Endeavors Group, of Austin, Texas, and The Blue Ridge Fund, of LA, California. Combined the group has over fifty years of real estate experience and have built developments in
excess of a billion dollars."

"This project will feature entertainment and music venues, hotel and event space, class A office facilities, a collection of restaurants and lifestyle retailers, a fitness facility, residential, running trails, and is connected to an 80 acre city park."

"The music venue is among several facilities that will be built in this venue. This particular facility is planned to provide seating for over 2,000 people for entertainment purposes. This will attract artists from around the world that Oklahoma City currently does not have a venue to sustain. The music and entertainment venue will also host a soundstage, production and studio offices, and a mill shop/warehouse."

"The retail section of Chisholm Creek will include various restaurants, small shop and high-end retailers, a farmers market, and a food truck court intertwined with walking trails that continue throughout the 180 acres and 80 acre park."

REALLY excited about all this!