DA: Motorcyclist had key role in NYC SUV brawl - CBS News

(http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57606248/da-motorcyclist-had-key-role-in-nyc-suv-brawl/?tag=nl.e875&s_cid=e875&ttag=e875&ftag=TRE497675b)There were off duty police riding with the bikers.


(http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57606248/da-motorcyclist-had-key-role-in-nyc-suv-brawl/?tag=nl.e875&s_cid=e875&ttag=e875&ftag=TRE497675b)

"Police also are looking into whether any off-duty officers were there." is far from there were off duty officers there. They don't know yet.

New York road-rage incident: Three NYPD cops took part in motorcycle ride - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57606195/new-york-road-rage-incident-three-nypd-cops-took-part-in-motorcycle-ride/) -M

New York road-rage incident: Three NYPD cops took part in motorcycle ride - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57606195/new-york-road-rage-incident-three-nypd-cops-took-part-in-motorcycle-ride/) -M

Thanks mmm, that gives more info. I'm still not sure if the off duty officers were up where the assault was taking place or back with the injured biker.

Plutonic Panda,
Looks like the answers have been posted. It was quite a few years ago for me, so I don't have the answer.
C. T.
Sorry. . . . How do I enroll for the class? Do I call the non-emergency number and ask where I can take classes at or is there a specific website I can visit? I would like to take a class there, just not sure how.

A search on Google brings me citizens police academy training in Waco for some reason,

Sorry. . . . How do I enroll for the class? Do I call the non-emergency number and ask where I can take classes at or is there a specific website I can visit? I would like to take a class there, just not sure how.

A search on Google brings me citizens police academy training in Waco for some reason,

What kind of class are you looking for?

New York road-rage incident: Three NYPD cops took part in motorcycle ride - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57606195/new-york-road-rage-incident-three-nypd-cops-took-part-in-motorcycle-ride/) -M
Correct. Just as I mentioned in my post.

Thanx for the affirmation.

PluPan, I just took the MSF "advanced" course (actually called the
Experienced RiderCourse) at OSU-OKC a couple of weeks ago. I found in
doing so that it is really pretty much the same as the basic course, but
without bothering with the elements like how to turn the bike on, how to
shift, etc. In other words, it assumes that you know those things but not
much else. In fact, they are changing the name to Basic RiderCourse-2.
What it is really designed to be is a basic course for scofflaws who have
ridden for some time without formal training or endorsement. You do take
it on your own motorcycle.
What a disappointment. One would think that the advanced course would
be advanced. I doubt I'll take the so-called 'advanced course'. Thanks
for the heads up. I was about to take the course and flip the bill for my
passenger.

There's no doubt that I can teach her everything she needs to know.
Come to think of it, we did that on the last Poker Run of 150+ miles.

While the "basic course" is worth the money the so-called advanced
course doesn't appear to be so. Go on a Poker Run. You'll come out
ahead.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/06/witness-was-on-his-way-to-church-when-he-saw-enraged-biker-gang-attacking-family-in-suv-and-what-he-did-next-should-inspire-us-all/

I have felt that all fledgling architects should have to spend a couple of summers setting forms and framing houses . . . =)
So they can make those payments on their motorcycles later.
With some experience and a clear conscience.
Some of us did do things like that and didn't take the conventional path to the profession.

I Salute You, Sir!
(btw: did you ever check out the Honeywood File/Honeywood Settlement?
Probably two of the best books regarding the Architectural Profession ever.)

Correct. Just as I mentioned in my post.

Thanx for the affirmation.

Except his had information, yours didn't.

Biker cop joined in SUV beatdown, hit vehicle | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2013/10/07/bike-cop-joined-in-on-suv-beatdown-video-reveals/)

What a disappointment. One would think that the advanced course would be advanced. I doubt I'll take the so-called 'advanced course'. Thanks for the heads up. I was about to take the course and flip the bill for my passenger.

There's no doubt that I can teach her everything she needs to know. Come to think of it, we did that on the last Poker Run of 150+ miles.

While the "basic course" is worth the money the so-called advanced course doesn't appear to be so. Go on a Poker Run. You'll come out ahead.
Well, I still feel like I got quite a bit from the Experienced RiderCourse, mostly because the instructors were excellent, and because it had been years since I took the first one. They really bolstered my low-speed control, and corrected some minor but important things I was doing wrong. All of the experienced riders that took the class with me had the same experience.

But the truly "advanced" course would be Ready To Ride. I'm going to take that one when it is available, and *bonus* it's free. I also want to take individual lessons. I've been riding for years, and I've done many thousands of miles, but I think there's always more to learn.

Another option is the track lapping day at the Hallett Motor Speedway up between Stillwater and Tulsa. They do a course targeted at street riders, and I plan to take that too.

I found the OHP offers riding classes as well.

Are they MSF courses? If not you really need to start with the basic MSF course at OSU OKC. That is the one you need to get your license endorsement. If OHP offers an advanced riding course beyond the MSF basic I would be interested in taking that also. I think there is no such thing as too much training when it comes to riding. But seriously, you need to start with the MSF basic. Don't waste time looking at/booking other courses until you do that, get your endorsement, and get a bike.

Yeah, just checked it out online. The OHP course requires an M endorsement. My advice stands.

Upon further investigation, it appears that the OHP course MIGHT be the same as the OSU-OKC Ready To Ride (advanced) course that currently doesn't have funding. It is named Ready To Ride (just like the OSU course), which I think is an MSF trademarked name. Either way, I signed up for one in November. It's free! What the heck, could be worse things than learning motorcycle riding from OHP motors. From what I understand during their service training they learn how to lay a bike down...BY ACTUALLY LAYING A BIKE DOWN. At speed. I'm guessing those guys are no joke when it comes to riding skill.

What I'll do for sure is take this course here: OSU-OKC Motorcycle Rider Training (http://www.osuokc.edu/motorcycle/dates_BRC.aspx)

Then I'll take a more advanced class. I think that is best way to go, don't you? $185 isn't bad either, they just don't provide the clothing, which is understandable.

I know this is off topic, but don't buy a Ducati.

I know this is off topic, but don't buy a Ducati.Why????

What I'll do for sure is take this course here: OSU-OKC Motorcycle Rider Training (http://www.osuokc.edu/motorcycle/dates_BRC.aspx)

Then I'll take a more advanced class. I think that is best way to go, don't you? $185 isn't bad either, they just don't provide the clothing, which is understandable.


Good idea. I know many Harley dealers also offer beginner and advanced riders courses.

What I'll do for sure is take this course here: OSU-OKC Motorcycle
Rider Training (http://www.osuokc.edu/motorcycle/dates_BRC.aspx)

Then I'll take a more advanced class. I think that is best way to go,
don't you? $185 isn't bad either, they just don't provide the clothing,
which is understandable.
You'll need a helmet, gloves, boots and a long sleeve shirt.

Why????

I suppose mainly because they are unsafe, overpriced, and Italian. The first motorcycle "spill" I ever had--as an "experienced" Suzuki 250 dirt bike rider, back when LBJ was president--was on a Ducati that had been modified by a member of my neighborhood crew/posse to cheaply approximate a "café racer" from another universe (rear set brakes, those goofy "clip-on racing handlebars" and so forth). I couldn't locate the mysterious rear brake pedal, had to slow down for a curve (at maybe 30 mph) and went elbows over asshole and vice-versa (or whatever that old time saying was) on slick pavement when I over-applied the front brake. Fortunately, I wasn't wearing a helmet at the time and the road rash was minimal. btw: that same member of The Posse later bought a BMW R/500 and wore holes in the valve covers from making tight turns. He later went on to anonymity as the sidecar racing passenger on the motorcycle racing circuit. I think he is probably still alive. I'm not sure

I am sure of this, however: Just stay away from Ducatis. They are the gateway motorcycle to the irrational behavior in the video at the top of the thread.

I would also suggest that you consider avoiding those old BSAs (i think they were single-cylinder 441s?) because if you didn't know how to use the compression release (on the handlebars) correctly, when kick-starting them, you might wind up on the other side of the handlebars with a broken ankle. And those old Triumphs with the luggage rack on the gas tank could take your balls off. And both of those had those POS Lucas Electrics which were bad, but better than anything in Italy at the time or today.

That's why.
(Besides that, you're liable to put your I out. =)

Oh!: Plus you should be able to find a re-buildable piece of Milwaukee Iron for a lot less than a Ducati.
(Sheeeeeeit, most i ever paid fer a motorcycle was three grand . . .
and that's a fraction of the cost of the hospital stay, etc. back in '76 when I was hit semi-head-on by some hit-and-run asshole who crossed the center line on a curve out at Draper Lake. =) <<<---(i can smile about it now.)

"'Tis better to learn from the mistakes of others . . .
because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself."
c/o Some Old WiseGuy (no Mafia, Rogues or Hangmen connection intended nor implied =)

I love Ducs...and they aren't that expensive unless you are buying top of the line new (like a Panigale), most H-D's cost more used. They tend to have much better components (brakes/suspension) than comparable Japanese bikes, the 4-valve models can be a bit more maintenance intensive, the 2-valve models are better in that respect. The small Monster is a good buy as is the Triumph Street Triple (675). I also Moto Guzzi's, Aprilia's, KTM and BMW's. There are very few Japanese bikes that I am interested in anymore but I just happen to own one of them now.

From CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57606600/nypd-undercover-officer-arrested-in-suv-motorcycle-gang-attack/?tag=nl.e875&s_cid=e875&ttag=e875&ftag=TRE497675b)
An NYPD undercover detective has now been arrested in connection
with an attack on a family in an SUV by a group of motorcyclists,
reports CBS News' John Miller.

The officer is expected to be charged with criminal mischief for allegedly
banging on and breaking the rear window of the SUV. The detective
waited four days before coming forward to the NYPD and he allegedly
made false statements about his involvement, reports Miller.
<read story> (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57606600/nypd-undercover-officer-arrested-in-suv-motorcycle-gang-attack/?tag=nl.e875&s_cid=e875&ttag=e875&ftag=TRE497675b)

Well . . . I guess that blows his cover . . .
Maybe he was just trying to increase the layers of cover that he was under.
You know . . . Trying to achieve Donnie Brascoesque levels of "Street Cred" . . .

"Criminal mischief" . . . that sounds like something that Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer might commit involving toilet paper, eggs and/or soap.

I love Ducs....

The only Duc I love is this one. (and I think "love" may be too strong a term =)
http://imgs.mi9.com/uploads/cartoon/514/looney-tunes-daffy-duck_422_7875.jpg

11 Bikers Indicted ? Including Undercover NYPD Detective ? for the Videotaped Chasing, Beating of SUV Driver That Went Viral | Video | TheBlaze.com (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/09/11-bikers-indicted-including-undercover-nypd-detective-for-the-chasing-beating-of-suv-driver-that-went-viral/)