There were some great games again today with two home teams losing. The Portland - Houston game was especially entertaining.

Mavs actually challenging the Spurs. Portland showing Houston what it's like having finishers.

The West is so competitive and entertaining to watch, it is a true shame the conferences are so unbalanced.

Thunder finishes the season 11th among 30 NBA teams in home attendance:

2013-2014 NBA Attendance - National Basketball Association - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance)


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I'd just note that number is based on raw attendance. Percentage-wise OKC is one of 8 teams, I believe, who averaged 100% or better home attendance. There's not really any way to improve on 100%! OKC also had the second best road attendance, behind only the Miami Heat. Although that isn't too surprising since everyone wants to see KD and Russ play. :cool:

Nice shot from the broadcast tonight:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/downtown.jpg

"There's not really any way to improve on 100%!" not unless they raise the age of lap children to 18.

Amazing game! Couldn't of asked for a better one!

Wow...

Yea that was awesome to be there. Fans running back in after already walking towards the exit was pretty entertaining.

On to Memphis.

Amazing game! Couldn't of asked for a better one!

Wow...

Maybe a little better...another win for our guys.:wink:: Not for lack of spirit and heart filled playing on the part of our guys though. Thunder definitely gave us a heck of a show and fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNaK0719KQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFTebwyqnto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnBI_6xsovE

anyone see when game 5 tickets go on sale?

Great game last night with disappointing results. Give it up to Memphis, they forced us to play their grit & grind game. We'll definitely have to win one of the next two in Memphis if we want to advance. This is very similar to the year we took the Grizzlies out in a seven game series.


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They were hitting layups and we were bombing from way outside.

The only time we got in the paint at all was on the break...

The completely out-muscled us.

They were hitting layups and we were bombing from way outside.

The only time we got in the paint at all was on the break...

The completely out-muscled us.
I hope I'm wrong, but, I think the Griz have the formula to beat the Thunder on a consistent basis. Winning in Memphis will be tough. If Thunder doesn't win 1 of these next 2 there, end of season.

Beno Udrih outscored pretty much our entire bench. Yuck. That can't happen.

Reggie Jackson needs to look at himself in the mirror for a long time. He scored 2 points while his counterpart back up PG beno udrih scored 14. If reggie is timid again he should have a very short leash. Maybe not even a minute in the 2nd half

Any idea why Adams only played three minutes? Was he hurt or just ineffective in those limited minutes?

Not sure what was up with Adams playing only three minutes...

Although Perkins tied the game; he wasn't very impressive scoring. Several players on the Thunder roster need to step up. If Russell can't find K.D. open, he has few alternatives. Sefolosha will be a key on offense as well as defense.

Scott Brooks & the team are going to have to figure out something fast. You get down 3-1 in a series odds are near to impossible that you recover. Memphis has always caused match-up problems with the Thunder. Beno Udrih was 6-8 in field goals and 2-2 at the charity stripe.

Memphis Grizzlies vs. Oklahoma City Thunder - Box Score - April 21, 2014 - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400553067)


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Reggie Jackson needs to look at himself in the mirror for a long time. He scored 2 points while his counterpart back up PG beno udrih scored 14. If reggie is timid again he should have a very short leash. Maybe not even a minute in the 2nd half

If we pull Reggie then you can kiss this season good bye. He needs to step up and Russ and KD need to make sure he's involved in the offense. You don't bench him pretty much under any circumstance. He's our best bench player and you win with your best players and lose with them... but you don't give up on them.

Any idea why Adams only played three minutes? Was he hurt or just ineffective in those limited minutes?

Scott Brooks doesn't trust young players. He always gives veterans minutes. Regardless of production or success.

The Western Conference is certainly showing how competitive it is after two games. After two in OKC, the Thunder and Grizzlies are one each. After two in San Antonio, the Spurs and Mavericks are one each. After two in Los Angeles, the Warriors and the Clippers are one each. After two in Houston, the Blazer lead the Rockets two to none. The favorites may be there at the end but I wouldn't bet the bank on it.

When guys who are as offensively limited as Thabo and Perk are playing as many minutes as they have been, it's going to be tough for KD and Russ to do what they want to do on the floor. The defense doesn't respect those guys at all. Their game plan worked out perfectly on defense and they turned KD and Russ into volume jump shooters.

Tony Allen has been an absolute nightmare for KD with how he is shadowing him on the court. Did anyone else see KD wave Russ off when he was trying to pass it to him (KD) because he couldn't get any separation from Tony Allen? It ended up resulting in Russ taking a contested pull-up 3 when we were still down 2 at the end of regulation. Regulation ended up turning out alright for us, but we don't have the most creative offensive sets when we can't get the ball to KD in crunch time.

Those are excellent points. People like Barkley still try to make Russ out as some sort of ball hog, but it's the same old story as it has been since day one. When the starting lineup is in, if KD is struggling or can't get open (like just about any time he is being covered by Tony Allen, for instance) Russ has two choices; pass to someone who sucks at offense or try to carry the load himself. Thankfully the emergence of Serge as a mild offensive threat has eased this a bit, but casual observers and a few people who are just wrong-headed (like Barkley) misinterpret what is happening.

This really boils down to substitution and bench play. There are scorers on that bench. They just need to step up.

Excited for tonight! OKC should have revenge on the mind, and Memphis should be amped for stealing HCA.

This first round overall is incredibly competitive. MIA is the only team to win both home games. Looks like Miami will cake walk once again through the weak-a$$ East.


On a side note, where are all the Harden trade haters? Those max dollars really showing up down there!

Serge Ibaka, Reggie Jackson, and Caron Butler are our most capable offensive players beyond KD and Russ. They have to be involved and stay involved late for our offense to hum.

The most frustrating thing for me is Brooks allowing Russ to take 7 or 8 threes in a game. He's not a good 3 point shooter and it's lazy offense. Brooks should already have this established this is not okay by this point in the season and in this point in Russ' career. The fact that it's not really established makes me question Brooks abilities as a coach. There's just no way a good coach would let his team have such poor shot selection.

Big game tonight.

I generally agree about Russ. Some of those 3 point shots with 15-20 seconds left on the shot clock can be devastating. I feel as if Russ gets so emotionally involved in the game and the momentum, that he tries to take over. And if he misses those shots, tries to make up for it on the D end. Which usually ends up in him taking a gamble at a blocked shot or double team steal, and the open guy scores.

Then you have those times Russ will hit those 3s at an absurd rate and he looks like a genius.

I don't think the issue is Russell, I think it is the fire on the defensive end. OKC stepped up at the end of regulation in last game, but where was that passion beforehand?!

Winners find ways to win. OKC tonight.

Then you have those times Russ will hit those 3s at an absurd rate and he looks like a genius.

I don't think the issue is Russell, I think it is the fire on the defensive end.

First, the times Russ hits threes at "an absurd rate" are pretty far and few between. And, Russ might be the biggest defensive problem. As you said, far too much gambling that's allowing easy buckets.

I generally agree about Russ. Some of those 3 point shots with 15-20 seconds left on the shot clock can be devastating. I feel as if Russ gets so emotionally involved in the game and the momentum, that he tries to take over. And if he misses those shots, tries to make up for it on the D end. Which usually ends up in him taking a gamble at a blocked shot or double team steal, and the open guy scores.

Then you have those times Russ will hit those 3s at an absurd rate and he looks like a genius.

I don't think the issue is Russell, I think it is the fire on the defensive end. OKC stepped up at the end of regulation in last game, but where was that passion beforehand?!

Winners find ways to win. OKC tonight.

It's not just necessarily threes. It is the run up with the ball, stop and pop off a jump shot. He gets in a rhythm making them and he's a hero. And he does make those a lot. But when they aren't falling, he just blew a possession all by himself. Over and Over.

Two in the paint is better than a missed three in air.

Watching this ugly game makes you really appreciate the crowd in OKC.

Tonight, Memphis has been ahead pretty much throughout in a critical playoff game, yet their arena isn't nearly as loud and energetic as the 'Peake.

Right now, this Thunder bunch looks like a team with a lot of quit in them.

Durant missing some open shots. I know there has been some good defense on him (especially with the no-calls) but not all of it. He's in a shooting slump. Which sounds silly when he scored over 30 last game and over 20 this game. But for him to miss half his free throws? There is the game right there. He best get over that in a hurry. Like before the next game.

Man another whacky game with a 4 point play to force OT... This has to be the oddest series in a while.

I'm not sure what coach is doing putting Perkind and Thabo in for the entirety of OT, but it is obvious to everyone else but him, that they don't stick a defender within 10 feet of either of those guys. Add in the fact that Ibaka never touches the ball in the final 10 minutes, and there you have FIVE grizzlies defenders to guard TWO thunder players. That just doesn't work. I am not trying to board the cliche "fire the coach" train, but we essentially played identical games back to back now with ZERO adjustments. In fact, he actually played less adjustments because once again Adams didn't sniff the floor.

Side note, Butler is trash this post season... I would rather have Fish or Jackson out there in his spot every time he checks in.

I think OKC is done unless we win tomorrow night, and I could see Brooks getting a phone call shortly after if we do end up losing Round 1.

I think OKC is done unless we win tomorrow night, and I could see Brooks getting a phone call shortly after if we do end up losing Round 1.

What bugs me about this team, and I make no pretense of being a big basketball expert, is that they look great when things are working, but when someone comes and smashes them in the mouth, they struggle to respond. Its almost like they expect the other team to just, kinda, swoon, and when they don't, they get a little...well....pouty. They should be tougher than that. Yeah, the team is still relatively "young," but they're hardly a "young team" anymore. They should know better.

Now I don't know what you do about a coach leaving Thabo and Perk in which essentially guarantees FIVE on two and nothing but horrendous shots in OT.

And I agree completely that if we don't win tomorrow night, sayonara. Someone on this team needs to show some leadership, grit, toughness, whatever, and kick everyone else in the tail. Thought that was kinda what Perkins was supposed to do to some extent.

I'm not sure why people are talking about Adams coming in. Perk played one of his best games of the season. He actually contributed offensively and continued to hound Randolph defensively.

The biggest problems are (a) our superior bench is contributing absolutely nothing and (b) we play undisciplined offensively and, to a degree, defensively. For Westbrook to take 13 threes is an indictment both on him and Scott Brooks for letting it happen. He's a poor three point shooter. He shouldn't take more than two to three a game. Instead of fighting for the best shot, we have a lot of late game "hero" ball that is is predictable and lazy. Serge Ibaka, despite his effectiveness, is zoned out late in games offensively - Brooks, Westbrook, and Durant can all be blamed for that.

All of these problems are same issues that have plagued Brooks his entire career, and without a dynamic third offensive threat like Harden, our offense stagnates and becomes predictable. Despite all of this, there's no reason we couldn't still take this series. Game 4 is a big one...

Anon, I'm with you on Butler. Was this guy all show and no go when it came to reg season vs playoffs? I thought he was some big time veteran. Doesn't he have a ring? How much did we pay for him? I'm feeling a bit like we got suckered in that deal and everyone (not necessarily here but like national press) thought it was going to be great for us.

Durant missing some open shots. I know there has been some good defense on him (especially with the no-calls) but not all of it. He's in a shooting slump. Which sounds silly when he scored over 30 last game and over 20 this game. But for him to miss half his free throws? There is the game right there. He best get over that in a hurry. Like before the next game.

Durant began his slump about 6 or 7 games from the end of the season. I think it's fatigue. He went 0 for 8 from 3 last night. No way he shuould take a long 3 to end regulation. KD and RW missed 7 free throws last night....Game. The bench has dissappeared, I think there is some infighting going on, epecially when Ray Westbrook is putting tweets out during the game that Brooks be fired. If they don't get it resolved, we can kiss it goodbye. Presti will have to make some hard decisions this summer then.

If we take this series 7 games and lose, Brooks will not be fired. His winning percentage is too high for that to happen (can't include first season as interim coach).

Name a solid candidate that you think would take an open coaching opportunity seriously here?


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They pay these guys millions of dollars to especially show up at playoff time. Mind boggling.

There are several things that are major factors to not playing "Great Ball" at this time.

1. C. Butler arrived and it messed up the entire chemistry in the way the all the other "role" players ( Lamb / Adams / Perry ) were expected to contribute at the beginning of the season and throughout the time the injuries ( Westbrook / Thabo / Perkins ) were benched. Lamb started the season great w/ a great shot and hitting 3's. When Butler arrived, you saw an immediate affect on the bench's contribution. Butler wasn't the answer, and should not be on the court before Lamb. This is Brooks' fault. How do you game plan to beat Miami, and we run them off their court w/ a small starting line-up ( Perry too ). There was no need for Butler to be here, ...he did not "add" anything to the game... a break-even at best. So why bring him in and Up-set the great chemistry already on the floor? ... Brook's needs to own this one.

2. Perkins on his best day does NOT add offense. Steve Kerr stated my opinion on this the other night. When you only have 3 offensive threats to defend, it makes your game plan easier to defend AND it puts a 5 X the pressure on the existing 3 players ( even if they are named Durant / Westbrook / Ibaka ). They have bad nights too, so why would Brooks expose this to our demise? The Grizzlies play a clean game and defend w/ intensity. They grind the game to a slow pace. Why are we playing to their game? ...this is like starting Perkins against Miami again, knowing it is not our best approach. This is Brooks problem too. Lamb is a MUST on the floor. Don't tell me about his "lack of defense", that is an excuse Brooks uses. If we play our game we win, if we play the Grizzlies game we go home early. 1st Round Early. Brooks needs to get over his issue w/ Lamb, or Brooks may be looking for another team.

3. This is not the panic button, this is seeing what worked through a great deal of the regular season,...so why would you not go w/ the same line-ups when the "wins" were being accummulated? Why would Brooks continue to keep the same players in ( down 17 on the road in a playoff game ) and not make game-time adjustments? IF Thabo is not going to shot the 3 when he is wide open, then get him out. For whatever reason, he has no confidence now. .. Lamb might.

Brooks, bench Butler. Put Lamb in early and tell him we are counting on him. Perry needs to have a bigger role. Put him in when the Grizzlies have their number 19 Beno Udrih is on the floor. Shut him down. Get Gasol in early foul trouble. Have Jackson drive to the bucket w/ the intention of getting Gasol some quick fouls.

Brooks, start Adams and give him the ball 5 times early and get Gasol to foul him. ... and this may open things up on the outside. Play the game inside -> out. ..

Brooks, please have Ibaka around the basket at ALL times. This game is about possessions. Ibaka must be the guy the finds every rebound & put back. Ibaka should never be on the perimeter when the ball is shot. I know he has a good 3 point shot, but that is not his value.

Brooks, in the second half, have Durant bring the ball up. Let the double team come to him, pass to Westbrook, let him go to the bucket ( drive or dish ) back out to Durant or an open Lamb. We need to press the basket w/ every possession. ..a foul / Free Throws / or trailing Durant. Take the game to them. ...not the other way around.

... Brooks, don't make it easier for them. Full court press the entire first quarter. Make their BIG's be something they are not. Pressure.

Last night was a great example. Houston had a rookie shoot the game winning 3 last night. That's right, an inexperienced, talented young guy was in the game during crunchtime.

I still say if we lose this series to the Grizz, Brooks is gone. I have never heard of a more stubborn coach.

Last night was a great example. Houston had a rookie shoot the game winning 3 last night. That's right, an inexperienced, talented young guy was in the game during crunchtime.

I still say if we lose this series to the Grizz, Brooks is gone. I have never heard of a more stubborn coach.

He finally made adjustments to attack Miami with, so why not now?

He finally made adjustments to attack Miami with, so why not now?

Scott Brooks isn't going anywhere. Coach Brooks can only tell the players what to do; they have got to go out and execute their game plan.

You're right; let's not push the panic button.

Sometimes the ball just takes an unlucky bounce and things are not going your way. Memphis in the first half of game one experienced that. They have since won two overtime games.

When the ball is going through the hoop and you're winning; any coach can look like a genius. When players are not moving or rotating off the ball on offense and defense and the ball is not going through the hoop; fire the coach.

Would like to see Perkins, Adams & Collison tag team up on Randolph. Gasol is a beast; keep him out of the paint.

Would like to see Sefolosha get out of his shooting shell and Jackson continue to attack the basket until he gets those calls.

Durant is not the only player who can hit a game winning shot; they're keying on K. D. because they know he's our 'go to guy' in closing out games.


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This isn't a must win game tonight.......but it's kind of a must win game tonight.

If we take this series 7 games and lose, Brooks will not be fired. His winning percentage is too high for that to happen (can't include first season as interim coach).

Name a solid candidate that you think would take an open coaching opportunity seriously here?


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Kelvin Sampson would have, had he not taken the Houston job. What about Bill Self? You don't think he would be interested in returning to the state on the BIG stage? I think he has proven he can coach.

Travis Ford would probably take a hard look at the Thunder job. Oh, you said a "solid candidate." lol

Oh, Self has a 10 year contract worth close to $50 mil. Probably not.

Although, Brooksy is halfway through a 4 year deal at $4 mil per yr.

That's right, $4 mil per year. ugh

I'm not so busy that I couldn't change my plans for $4 mil per year. lol

NBA Head Coach Contracts
Team Head Coach Years Left (Options) Dollars/Year
Atlanta Hawks Mike Budenholzer X X
Boston Celtics Brad Stevens 6 $3,666,667
Brooklyn Nets Jason Kidd 3(1) $2,500,000
Charlotte Bobcats Steve Clifford 2(1) $2,000,000
Chicago Bulls Tom Thibodeau 3 $4,375,000
Cleveland Cavaliers Mike Brown 5 $4,000,000
Dallas Mavericks Rick Carlisle 3 $4,600,000
Denver Nuggets Brian Shaw 3(1) $2,000,000
Detroit Pistons John Loyer interim interim
Golden State Warriors Mark Jackson 2 $2,000,000
Houston Rockets Kevin McHale 1(1) X
Indiana Pacers Frank Vogel 3 $2,000,000
Los Angeles Clippers Glenn “Doc” Rivers 3 $7,000,000
Los Angeles Lakers Mike D’Antoni 2(1) $4,000,000
Memphis Grizzlies Dave Joerger 3(1) $2,000,000
Miami Heat Erik Spoelstra X $3,000,000+
Milwaukee Bucks Larry Drew 3(1) $2,000,000
Minnesota Timberwolves Rick Adelman 2 $5,000,000
New Orleans Pelicans Monty Williams 3 X
New York Knicks TBD X X
Oklahoma City Thunder Scott Brooks 3 $4,000,000
Orlando Magic Jacque Vaughn X X
Philadelphia 76ers Brett Brown 4 X
Phoenix Suns Jeff Hornacek 3(1) $2,000,000
Portland Trail Blazers Terry Stotts 1(1) X
Sacramento Kings Mike Malone 3(1) $2,250,000
San Antonio Spurs Gregg Popovich X $6,000,000
Toronto Raptors Dwane Casey 1 X
Utah Jazz TBD X X
Washington Wizards Randy Wittman 1 X
*X stands for contract details that are still undisclosed*
Source = overtheleague.com

This isn't a must win game tonight.......but it's kind of a must win game tonight.

I don't think there's any "kinda" about it. Lose tonight, and I think it's too deep a hole from which to escape.

nm

I wish my doctor had not taken me off of beta blockers.

Wow, does anyone have any idea what the record is for the most consecutive overtime games played between two team in the playoffs?

Wow, does anyone have any idea what the record is for the most consecutive overtime games played between two team in the playoffs?


5...Boston Celtics and Phoenix Suns?????

Scratch that. My Bad!

Reggie Jackson just changed this city tonight.

Finally, Scott Brooks leaves in Reggie more than 13 minutes and look what happens. I cannot believe we won this given all of the circumstances (Durant and Westbrook sucking).

These Grizzlies are tough. Let's bring the noise Tuesday night.

EDIT: Game 5 is Tuesday, not Monday

Reggie Jackson just changed this city tonight.

Finally, Scott Brooks leaves in Reggie more than 13 minutes and look what happens. I cannot believe we won this given all of the circumstances (Durant and Westbrook sucking).

These Grizzlies are tough. Let's bring the noise Monday night.
THANK YOU, Reggie Jackson.

Reggie Jackson

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Never saw Kevin Durant have a worse game than that.

Wowzers. Thank you Reggie Jackson! Mr. April!

Never saw Kevin Durant have a worse game than that.

Wowzers. Thank you Reggie Jackson! Mr. April!

Ending their 15 game home winning streak with KD having a bad game certainly speaks well for the rest of the team tonight.