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warreng88 09-26-2013, 09:31 AM From the Tulsa World:
Sources: Big 12 baseball tournament coming to Tulsa in 2015
By ERIC BAILEY
World Sports Writer on Sep 26, 2013, at 9:02 AM
Updated on 9/26/13 at 9:19 AM
The Big 12 Conference Baseball Tournament will move to ONEOK Field in 2015, multiple sources told the Tulsa World.
Details are expected to be announced at a noon press conference held today at ONEOK Field.
Tulsa Sports Commission Senior Vice President Roy Hoyt declined to comment on the subject of the press conference.
A three-year contract with Oklahoma City’s Bricktown Ballpark will conclude following the 2014 season.
The Big 12 has annually held its baseball tournament in Oklahoma City since the league’s birth in 1997. The only exceptions were 2002 and 2004, when it was played in Arlington, Texas.
Oklahoma City also had been the traditional home for the Big Eight Tournament dating back to the 1970s.
Gaining the baseball tournament would be considered a coup for the city. It was an event targeted by the Tulsa Sports Commission and the Tulsa Drillers when ONEOK Field was being constructed in 2010.
“We couldn’t (bid for the Big 12 tournament) until we had this ballpark,” Mike Dodson, former executive director of the Tulsa Sports Commission, said during a 2010 interview. “We now have a ballpark that can match anything out there near a major hotel and entertainment district in downtown Tulsa. Now is the time to go after this.”
This is the second time a bid has been placed by Tulsa, which tried to lure the 2012, 2013 and 2014 Big 12 Tournaments to town.
College baseball is having a revival in the city. Earlier this month, the Drillers announced ONEOK Field would host two of the three-game Big 12 Bedlam games between Oklahoma and Oklahoma State in 2014.
Sellout crowds were considered a main reason for Tulsa wresting a third game from Oklahoma City, which had hosted two of three Bedlam games since 1991.
In 2014, Oklahoma City will entertain a May 15 game (Thursday) with ONEOK Field hosting games on May 16 and May 17.
The five-day Big 12 tournament is typically scheduled for mid- to late May. The double-elimination event begins on Wednesday and leads up to a Sunday championship game.
The 2014 championship will be held May 21-25 in Oklahoma City.
Oklahoma defeated Kansas 7-2 to capture the 2013 Big 12 championship.
Sources: Big 12 baseball tournament coming to Tulsa in 2015 | Tulsa World (http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/Sources_Big_12_baseball_tournament_coming_to_Tulsa/20130926_233_0_TheBig32468)
OKCisOK4me 09-26-2013, 09:35 AM Tulsa isn't even Big XII territory. Horrible!
warreng88 09-26-2013, 09:36 AM The contract for the Big 12 Men's championship being held in KC is up at the same time. I am curious if OKC could host it for a couple of years in 2015 and 2016?
BoulderSooner 09-26-2013, 09:47 AM Tulsa isn't even Big XII territory. Horrible!
how? all of Oklahoma - is big 12 territory
bradh 09-26-2013, 09:55 AM I know Round Rock, TX really wanted the baseball tourney.
My friend is in the SID for Baylor, and he has always told me how much he loved coming here, and he didn't want to see it move.
However, if we get the hoops tourney, that'd be a huge coup away from KC.
warreng88 09-26-2013, 10:05 AM I know Round Rock, TX really wanted the baseball tourney.
My friend is in the SID for Baylor, and he has always told me how much he loved coming here, and he didn't want to see it move.
However, if we get the hoops tourney, that'd be a huge coup away from KC.
True. The Thunder would have to adjust their schedule, but I think we could make it work.
HangryHippo 09-26-2013, 10:13 AM I know Round Rock, TX really wanted the baseball tourney.
My friend is in the SID for Baylor, and he has always told me how much he loved coming here, and he didn't want to see it move.
However, if we get the hoops tourney, that'd be a huge coup away from KC.
I can't imagine we'll get the hoops tourney, but I agree, it would be a big coup! I'm sad to see baseball do this though. At least it didn't pack up for somewhere in Texas though.
bradh 09-26-2013, 10:18 AM If San Antonio can do the "Rodeo Roadtrip" every year and not miss a beat, I think the Thunder could handle it.
john60 09-26-2013, 10:38 AM If San Antonio can do the "Rodeo Roadtrip" every year and not miss a beat, I think the Thunder could handle it.
And Staples has hosted the Pac-12, United Center has hosted the Big 10, MSG has hosted Big East, etc. Definitely doable.
SoonerDave 09-26-2013, 10:39 AM Is this a permanent, long-term contractual move, or a one-year stop?
If the former, its a very disappointing loss for OKC in general and the Bricktown area in particular. We took that tourney in twenty years ago when no one wanted it, and made it into a successful offering. Now, I fear its a sacrificial lamb among other priorities.
Very disappointing.
adaniel 09-26-2013, 10:54 AM Considering the conference awards its tournament in 3+ year increments, I doubt this is permanent. They probably just want to try out a new stadium. Of course that's not to say they won't move it in the future.
I wouldn't read too much into this. Rather, just take it as a slight nudge that other cities are improving themselves as are we, and we should strive to make sure we keep up to offer the best package.
HangryHippo 09-26-2013, 10:59 AM Is this a permanent, long-term contractual move, or a one-year stop?
If the former, its a very disappointing loss for OKC in general and the Bricktown area in particular. We took that tourney in twenty years ago when no one wanted it, and made it into a successful offering. Now, I fear its a sacrificial lamb among other priorities.
Very disappointing.
As adaniel said, should this be true, it's for a 3 year increment beginning in 2015. So, we need to strive to make continued improvements. Other cities aren't resting...
Bellaboo 09-26-2013, 11:05 AM I remember how Arlington was such a failure, nobody attended, they (Big 12) couldn't wait to leave. I think Tulsa would actually support this well, knowing it would be their chance to make a good impression. If not, it'll be back.
bradh 09-26-2013, 12:00 PM It's going to be really hard to lure the hoops tourney away from KC again, now that they have the Sprint Center and KU and KSU hoops are solid (although the loss of Mizzou to the SEC certainly didn't help).
BrettM2 09-26-2013, 12:03 PM It's going to be really hard to lure the hoops tourney away from KC again, now that they have the Sprint Center and KU and KSU hoops are solid (although the loss of Mizzou to the SEC certainly didn't help).
Location may factor in as it's only ISU/KU/KSU up there anymore (having lost Mizzou and Nebraska). I'd like to see OKC get it; hopefully city folks are working with the Big XII.
OKCisOK4me 09-26-2013, 12:08 PM how? all of Oklahoma - is big 12 territory
Meaning TU is in Conference USA... come on now.
I don't really care either way. A) It's baseball...boring B) Even though the tourney draws more people than Redhawks games I truly believe Tulsa has a better shot a drawing a better crowd. C) Someone obviously needs the tax money more than we do.
adaniel 09-26-2013, 12:25 PM IMO the WCWS is a FAR bigger deal to OKC than the Big XII tourney. I know the All-Sports Association has been bending over backwards for them as of late, as they should. Most people who go to the Big XII tourney are locals anyway.
No doubt that OKC is by far the superior sports town, but I believe this will be attended well up there.
Richard at Remax 09-26-2013, 01:09 PM OKC has already hosted big 12 basketball championship while the thunder were here. They can do it again.
SoonerDave 09-26-2013, 01:38 PM IMO the WCWS is a FAR bigger deal to OKC than the Big XII tourney. I know the All-Sports Association has been bending over backwards for them as of late, as they should. Most people who go to the Big XII tourney are locals anyway.
No doubt that OKC is by far the superior sports town, but I believe this will be attended well up there.
I was thinking about this very thing, and in particular how big the WCWS has become. I know that they floated (or have floated) some rather grand proposals to keep it here, including some substantial stadium upgrades/expansion and general facility improvements, and I guess its hard to argue that's a bigger deal right now in OKC than the Big 12-2 Baseball tourney.
I just remember back in the days of the old four-team, double-elimination Big 8 tourney that used to be hosted out at One Sport Stadium, and how OU and OSU typically dominated the thing in front of huge crowds. Not so much these days, I s'pose. And I think it has a much greater chance of success up in Tulsa than it ever did in Arlington - that was just a goofy choice to make those two years.
See, this is also one of the reasons why I hate Mandalay's current management of the Brick...The place is now old enough for us to start thinking in terms of what might be an appropriate update for the park, keep it current/relevant, but it's so hard to sell anything like that when you've got those stinking tarps covering the first-base upper deck. It just looks so cheesy and second rate.
OKVision4U 09-26-2013, 01:48 PM OK, this is NOT what we need. This is a must to keep. Tulsa "baseball elite" have pushed really hard to sway the Big 12. We need to get this back ( ASAP ) .
This is just not the "trend" we need to have. ....OU.... OSU, ...Big 12. Tulsa has ORU ( not the big 12, ??? hmmm).
HangryHippo 09-26-2013, 02:06 PM I was thinking about this very thing, and in particular how big the WCWS has become. I know that they floated (or have floated) some rather grand proposals to keep it here, including some substantial stadium upgrades/expansion and general facility improvements, and I guess its hard to argue that's a bigger deal right now in OKC than the Big 12-2 Baseball tourney.
I just remember back in the days of the old four-team, double-elimination Big 8 tourney that used to be hosted out at One Sport Stadium, and how OU and OSU typically dominated the thing in front of huge crowds. Not so much these days, I s'pose. And I think it has a much greater chance of success up in Tulsa than it ever did in Arlington - that was just a goofy choice to make those two years.
See, this is also one of the reasons why I hate Mandalay's current management of the Brick...The place is now old enough for us to start thinking in terms of what might be an appropriate update for the park, keep it current/relevant, but it's so hard to sell anything like that when you've got those stinking tarps covering the first-base upper deck. It just looks so cheesy and second rate.
Serious question - do you really believe that the tarps on the upper deck had much to do with this decision or prevents the park from hosting events?
adaniel 09-26-2013, 02:19 PM OK, this is NOT what we need. This is a must to keep. Tulsa "baseball elite" have pushed really hard to sway the Big 12. We need to get this back ( ASAP ) .
This is just not the "trend" we need to have. ....OU.... OSU, ...Big 12. Tulsa has ORU ( not the big 12, ??? hmmm).
FWIW the tourney comes back to OKC in 2016. Ironically enough, the streetcar will be close to complete.
SoonerDave 09-26-2013, 02:23 PM Serious question - do you really believe that the tarps on the upper deck had much to do with this decision or prevents the park from hosting events?
Oh, no, its just a perception thing on my part that I just think looks crappy. Kinda like carports. More generally, I just don't think Mandalay has broken its neck to really promote the team that much. Perhaps I'm wrong, and evidence might show they've been very aggressive, but I just don't think its been a very high priority for them.
catcherinthewry 09-26-2013, 02:47 PM FWIW the tourney comes back to OKC in 2016. Ironically enough, the streetcar will be close to complete.
I'm sure Tulsa will do great attendance-wise in 2015 due to the novelty factor so we (OKC) need to really step up our support in 2016 to show the Big 12 that we're serious about keeping the tournament here.
adaniel 09-26-2013, 04:01 PM Agree. But I will say until this year, the tournament has had at least decent attendance. Maybe not what it was in the past considering Thunder are usually in the thick of playoffs by that time. But still alright.
As far as this year, I know attendance was awful. But you have to consider that a) the Moore tornado simultaneously kept a lot of out of towners away while diverting locals' attentions and b) the weather overall was just dreadful, lots and lots of rain delays. I wonder if this year might have freaked out the Big XII big wigs a bit?
I trust the All-Sports Association to keep it here, but I have to say I've noticed a big drop off in advertising over the past few years. Lots of people simply don't know its going on, I don't think a reminder would hurt.
HangryHippo 09-26-2013, 04:58 PM Oh, no, its just a perception thing on my part that I just think looks crappy. Kinda like carports. More generally, I just don't think Mandalay has broken its neck to really promote the team that much. Perhaps I'm wrong, and evidence might show they've been very aggressive, but I just don't think its been a very high priority for them.
I can see that. As far as Mandalay, I really don't know. It seems like they've put some work into the park itself, but regarding the team, it just seems like there's a general disinterest. I wonder how bad the switch to the Astros affiliate hurt interest, if at all?
dankrutka 09-26-2013, 05:06 PM Tulsa isn't even Big XII territory. Horrible!
This makes no sense at all.
How is OKC more Big 12 than Tulsa? If Tulsa is not a Big 12 city because of TU (which has far less support than OU & OSU in Tulsa) than OKC isn't one because of OCU. They are both obviously Big 12 cities.
OKCisOK4me 09-26-2013, 09:39 PM This makes no sense at all.
How is OKC more Big 12 than Tulsa? If Tulsa is not a Big 12 city because of TU (which has far less support than OU & OSU in Tulsa) than OKC isn't one because of OCU. They are both obviously Big 12 cities.
I'm not talking about fan bases... To compare it to something, let's say the whole of current Big XII schools surrounded Columbia, Missouri, with one school being, well, where it is, Morgantown, WV. But instead of having the tourney in Kansas City which is quite close to KU, etc., they're going to move the tourney to Columbia...except that The University of Missouri is an SEC school.
That's all I meant. Maybe I should have another sip, lol.
OKVision4U 09-27-2013, 08:01 AM Meaning TU is in Conference USA... come on now.
I don't really care either way. A) It's baseball...boring B) Even though the tourney draws more people than Redhawks games I truly believe Tulsa has a better shot a drawing a better crowd. C) Someone obviously needs the tax money more than we do.
I think what they were trying to say about ( Tulsa not being Big 12 Country ) is this:
1. Univ. of Tulsa DOESN"T EVEN PLAY BASEBALL. ...They don't participate in that sport.
2. ORU .... Yes, they are a DI school. But not the Big 12.
The whole reason why OKC doesn't draw a big crowd is that OU & OSU played several day games ( thus lower tickets $$$ ). We need to keep all revenue generating events.....PERIOD.
I have never been to the Women's College World Series game in OKC, but I'm sure glad we have it, and I know it is busting at the seams in growth each year.
Edgar 09-27-2013, 08:17 AM Agree. But I will say until this year, the tournament has had at least decent attendance. Maybe not what it was in the past considering Thunder are usually in the thick of playoffs by that time. But still alright.
As far as this year, I know attendance was awful. But you have to consider that a) the Moore tornado simultaneously kept a lot of out of towners away while diverting locals' attentions and b) the weather overall was just dreadful, lots and lots of rain delays. I wonder if this year might have freaked out the Big XII big wigs a bit?
I trust the All-Sports Association to keep it here, but I have to say I've noticed a big drop off in advertising over the past few years. Lots of people simply don't know its going on, I don't think a reminder would hurt.
Heck OU won the tourney last year and people still didn't much come out even for the title game. It was time for a change. OKC not so much a sports town as a Thunder town now. OSU sucking didn't help. Imagine it'll be a hit in Tulsa. Lots of baseball people in green co. I agree about the tarps at the brick very tacky looking, Ruins the aesthetics of the park. Why does everything in town need a corporate sponsor. A *&^%$^&* devon footbridge-sheesh.
ou48A 09-27-2013, 09:09 AM While everything else was great the fan support in OKC has not been nearly as good as it should have been in recent years....The tornadoes really hurt last years attendance. OSU hasn't been drawing fans like they once did and support from OU fans has rarely been what it needs to be.
It's almost like the OKC area fans took this event for granted
Good luck Tulsa
onthestrip 09-27-2013, 10:10 AM I think it will be a good change of pace for a year or two. I doubt it that it will be permanent. Tulsa's OneOK park is a great new stadium and is probably better suited for a Big12 tourney crowd (which arent very big). And the Thunder seem to sap the interest out of the BIg 12 tourney. Let them have it for a bit and then itll come back to OKC most likely.
Regarding the tarps at Bricktown Ballpark: I dont know why someone would think they look bad. Its either tarps with revenue producing ads or empty seats, it doesnt matter really IMO. Its not like there has been a crowd at any game recently that has overflowed lower level seating.
Just the facts 09-27-2013, 11:48 AM I wonder how bad the switch to the Astros affiliate hurt interest, if at all?
It hurts this bad...
Astros Break Another Record: A 0.0 TV Rating « CBS Houston (http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/09/24/astros-break-another-record-a-0-0-tv-rating/)
bradh 09-27-2013, 12:19 PM sucks because the Redhawks were really good this year, and will probably be so for the next few years as my Astros have totally rebuilt the farms thanks to a decade of mismanagement below the majors
OKCisOK4me 09-27-2013, 02:25 PM It hurts this bad...
Astros Break Another Record: A 0.0 TV Rating « CBS Houston (http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/09/24/astros-break-another-record-a-0-0-tv-rating/)
That's sad...
bradh 09-27-2013, 02:47 PM They weren't the first team to draw a 0.0, Texas' opening football game vs. NMSU drew a 0.0 on the Longhorn Network lol
OKVision4U 09-28-2013, 10:33 AM Well we need to push hard to get this back. Lots of new hotels in OKC will need customers.
SoonerDave 09-28-2013, 11:14 AM This makes no sense at all.
How is OKC more Big 12 than Tulsa? If Tulsa is not a Big 12 city because of TU (which has far less support than OU & OSU in Tulsa) than OKC isn't one because of OCU. They are both obviously Big 12 cities.
Clearly they're not. Tulsa is about as much a Big 12 town a OKC is a C-USA town. That they landed this tournament is a testimony to Tulsa's desire to become a more Big-12 oriented city, and its absolutely a coup for their local organizers that won it. It's also a warning shot to the folks in OKC. I hope we're listening, and I also hope we're not suddenly "too big" to enjoy something like the BIg 12 baseball tourney. Very cautionary note for OKC, I think.
As for the general notion of OKC being a bigger Big 12 town than Tulsa, to me its obvious for nothing more than a matter of geography. Norman is, what, 10-15 minutes south of OKC? OKC hosted the Big 12 baseball tournament *years* before the Big 12 was the Big 12, back in the days of All Sports Stadium. OKC's history with the conference goes back to the Big 8 era. And the OCU-Tulsa analogy is a non-starter, because OCU (unless I'm just completely confused) is NAIA. That's not a knock on Tulsa, just a fact of geography and OU's proximity to OKC...
OKVision4U 09-28-2013, 11:24 AM Well said. ...who just let the fox in the hen house? I liked it in the big 8 days.
Laramie 10-10-2013, 02:19 AM Let Tulsa host the Big 12 baseball tournament; they've hosted the annual Bedlam baseball series for one of the three game series in which two were played here in OKC. Let's see what Tulsa can do with the relatively new ONEOK Park with its scenic view of the Tulsa Skyline. Frisco and Round Rock in Texas has also been among those cities courting the Big 12 Baseball Tournament. At least it remains in Oklahoma for now. If the NCAA and Big 12 decides that they want to have a change of venue, let them go for it. If it isn't successful, you can bet it will be back here in Oklahoma City for a much longer run. Keep in mind that the Dallas and Austin areas would love to host the Big 12 Baseball Tournament. It would be a sideshow in Dallas (Frisco) and probably successful in the Austin (Round Rock) area; however it would be a lengthy travel for those schools in the Big 12.
They (Tulsa) hosted the Conference USA (March 2013) basketball tournament at the BOK Center and it wasn't that well received.
Let's face it, Kansas City built the Sprint Center which insured its hold on the Big 12 mens' basketball tournament. Kansas City's proximity is attractive and convenient for many Big 12 powers like Kansas University (40 miles), Kansas State (110 miles), Iowa State (206 miles), Oklahoma State (248 miles) and Oklahoma (310 miles). The emergence of NBA basketball in Oklahoma City turned our attention to the Thunder. The Thunder is a popular midwest brand since there are no longer NBA franchises in Kansas City or St. Louis. We (OKC Thunder) have a region (west-east) from Denver to Memphis and (north-south) from Minneapolis to Dallas. We may never see the Big 12 mens' basketball tournament again.
Remember: NCAA softball committee voted to move the 1996 WCWS to Columbus, Ga. They returned to Oklahoma City in 1997 and has remained here since. Competition does have its bright sides. Now, Hoover, Alabama has been the latest suitor to obtain the WCWS softball.
Laramie 10-10-2013, 12:08 PM Let Tulsa host the Big 12 baseball tournament; they've hosted the annual Bedlam baseball series for one of the three game series in which two were played here in OKC. Let's see what Tulsa can do with the relatively new ONEOK Park with its scenic view of the Tulsa Skyline. Frisco and Round Rock in Texas has also been among those cities courting the Big 12 Baseball Tournament. At least it remains in Oklahoma for now. If the NCAA and Big 12 decides that they want to have a change of venue, let them go for it. If it isn't successful, you can bet it will be back here in Oklahoma City for a much longer run. Keep in mind that the Dallas and Austin areas would love to host the Big 12 Baseball Tournament. It would be a sideshow in Dallas (Frisco) and probably successful in the Austin (Round Rock) area; however it would be a lengthy travel for those schools in the Big 12.
They (Tulsa) hosted the Conference USA (March 2013) basketball tournament at the BOK Center and it wasn't that well received.
Let's face it, Kansas City built the Sprint Center which insured its hold on the Big 12 mens' basketball tournament. Kansas City's proximity is attractive and convenient for many Big 12 powers like Kansas University (40 miles), Kansas State (110 miles), Iowa State (206 miles), Oklahoma State (248 miles) and Oklahoma (310 miles).
The emergence of NBA basketball in Oklahoma City turned our attention to the Thunder. The Thunder is a popular midwest brand since there are no longer NBA franchises in Kansas City or St. Louis. We (OKC Thunder) have a region (west-east) from Denver to Memphis and (north-south) from Minneapolis to Dallas.
http://hittoleftfield.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/nba-fan-map.jpg?w=450&h=254
We may never see the Big 12 mens' basketball tournament again.
Remember: NCAA softball committee voted to move the 1996 WCWS to Columbus, Ga. They returned to Oklahoma City in 1997 and has remained here since. Competition does have its bright sides. Now, Hoover, Alabama has been the latest suitor to obtain the WCWS softball.
BoulderSooner 10-10-2013, 01:07 PM i bet we get the big 12 basketball tourney back in the next 7 years
bradh 10-10-2013, 01:28 PM that map makes me laugh, i guarantee folks in WA aren't rooting for the Blazers, even if they don't have a team
Edgar 10-13-2013, 10:45 AM I was in Lincoln this summmer and the waiter admired my Thunder hat. Might be something to the map. They did miss out on lots of fans in green co by going with OKC rather than the state name.
venture 10-13-2013, 11:48 AM I was in Lincoln this summmer and the waiter admired my Thunder hat. Might be something to the map. They did miss out on lots of fans in green co by going with OKC rather than the state name.
Why? The team is not in Tulsa...its in OKC. Are people in Traverse City or Grand Rapids going to not root for the Pistons because they have Detroit in their name? Or people in Columbus not going to root for the Cavs because they have Cleveland?
The country bumpkins need to get over it if it is really bothering them that much.
Edgar 10-14-2013, 09:43 AM Admit it- you wouldn't get heart and soul behind the Tulsa Thunder. Minn similar to Ok with twin cities. Minn: Vikings, Timberwolves, Wild, Twins... It was a short sighted somewhat selfish decision they'll probably regret someday. Could of had legions of fans in T-town.
HangryHippo 10-14-2013, 09:50 AM Admit it- you wouldn't get heart and soul behind the Tulsa Thunder. Minn similar to Ok with twin cities. Minn: Vikings, Timberwolves, Wild, Twins... It was a short sighted somewhat selfish decision they'll probably regret someday. Could of had legions of fans in T-town.
Meh, the Thunder seems to be doing alright. If the team being called Oklahoma City hurts Tulsans' feelings, Tulsans need stronger feelings.
Jersey Boss 10-14-2013, 11:39 AM i bet we get the big 12 basketball tourney back in the next 7 years
Even money there won't be a "Big 12" in seven years.
Jersey Boss 10-14-2013, 11:45 AM Admit it- you wouldn't get heart and soul behind the Tulsa Thunder. Minn similar to Ok with twin cities. Minn: Vikings, Timberwolves, Wild, Twins... It was a short sighted somewhat selfish decision they'll probably regret someday. Could of had legions of fans in T-town.
Not even close to being the same thing. There is less than 10 minutes travel time between the twin cities. St. Cloud isn't complaining about the name of the MLB franchise. By and large pro teams carry the moniker of the city they are located in. Minnesota is the rare exception to the rule.
Edgar 10-14-2013, 01:56 PM More like Memphis and Nashville- Memphis hoped to get the team and was disappointed but now they all love their Titans.
Bellaboo 10-14-2013, 03:45 PM Let Tulsa host the Big 12 baseball tournament; they've hosted the annual Bedlam baseball series for one of the three game series in which two were played here in OKC. Let's see what Tulsa can do with the relatively new ONEOK Park with its scenic view of the Tulsa Skyline. Frisco and Round Rock in Texas has also been among those cities courting the Big 12 Baseball Tournament. At least it remains in Oklahoma for now. If the NCAA and Big 12 decides that they want to have a change of venue, let them go for it. If it isn't successful, you can bet it will be back here in Oklahoma City for a much longer run. Keep in mind that the Dallas and Austin areas would love to host the Big 12 Baseball Tournament. It would be a sideshow in Dallas (Frisco) and probably successful in the Austin (Round Rock) area; however it would be a lengthy travel for those schools in the Big 12.
They (Tulsa) hosted the Conference USA (March 2013) basketball tournament at the BOK Center and it wasn't that well received.
Let's face it, Kansas City built the Sprint Center which insured its hold on the Big 12 mens' basketball tournament. Kansas City's proximity is attractive and convenient for many Big 12 powers like Kansas University (40 miles), Kansas State (110 miles), Iowa State (206 miles), Oklahoma State (248 miles) and Oklahoma (310 miles).
The emergence of NBA basketball in Oklahoma City turned our attention to the Thunder. The Thunder is a popular midwest brand since there are no longer NBA franchises in Kansas City or St. Louis. We (OKC Thunder) have a region (west-east) from Denver to Memphis and (north-south) from Minneapolis to Dallas.
http://hittoleftfield.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/nba-fan-map.jpg?w=450&h=254
We may never see the Big 12 mens' basketball tournament again.
Remember: NCAA softball committee voted to move the 1996 WCWS to Columbus, Ga. They returned to Oklahoma City in 1997 and has remained here since. Competition does have its bright sides. Now, Hoover, Alabama has been the latest suitor to obtain the WCWS softball.
This was only for 1 year due to the Olympics being held in Atlanta.
Bellaboo 10-14-2013, 03:52 PM Admit it- you wouldn't get heart and soul behind the Tulsa Thunder. Minn similar to Ok with twin cities. Minn: Vikings, Timberwolves, Wild, Twins... It was a short sighted somewhat selfish decision they'll probably regret someday. Could of had legions of fans in T-town.
The Thunder has a lot of fans in T-town. The Tulsa mayor endorsed the Thunder to the NBA when the move was made. That's why there is a pre-season game played in Tulsa every year, and last year they had their training camp game at the Spirit Arena where the Thunder Developmental league affiliate the Tulsa 66ers play..... OKC and Tulsa are in step together with the Thunder, even though Tulsa would probably like a few regular season games, that won't happen due to other factors.
Spartan 10-14-2013, 03:52 PM how? all of Oklahoma - is big 12 territory
Agreed. Tulsa is an OSU town
OKVision4U 10-14-2013, 04:02 PM I'm so greatful, we have our Thunder.
...I do want that BIG 12 Baseball back here though. We have a very nice park in a Great Location. We need to fight hard to get it back. No reason Tulsa should have this BIG 12 Event.
We need to Host as many BIG 12 events as possible. It makes sense for the fans ( close, in the middle ). Now we have even more hotels for them to stay ( Left field is loaded w/ 'em. )
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