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betts 05-20-2012, 09:55 AM development
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FlashBack RetroPub
The Drake (Good Egg Group)
1. The pizza place will be called Pizzeria Gusto
2. Interior Gilt is the name of the home furnishing store: Home (http://www.interiorgilt.com/)
3. I believe Rant is the name of the clothing store and Red Square Apparel is the legal name. Heard it will be similar to Gil's with upscale jeans and casual clothing.
4. UrbanCore Pilates has an existing location at 9612 N. May: URBAN CORE OKLAHOMA CITY (http://www.urbancoreokc.com/)
5. Anytime Fitness is a national 24-hour chain with about a dozen (all suburban) OKC locations: 24 Hour Gyms - Fitness Centers - Health Clubs | Anytime Fitness (http://anytimefitness.com/)
6. Old School Bagel is an OK mini-chain with locations in Leadership Square, far north OKC and 2 in Edmond: OSB Old School Bagel (http://www.oldschoolbagelcafe.com/Home_Page.html)
7. t, an Urban Teahouse has another location on N. May: t, an urban teahouse (http://urban-teahouse.com/T_Urban_Teahouse/Home.html)
8. At the Beach Tanning is a national chain with several OKC locations: At The Beach - Home - At the Beach Tanning - Tanning Salon Superstore! - Indoor Spray Tan & Tanning Beds - Get Your Tan On (http://atbtanning.com/)
9. Fedora Cigar Lounge will include the rooftop deck above Rant
There is one other signed tenant not mentioned: The Okay See Clothing Company (http://www.theokaysee.com/). They will feature an apparel line of city specific shirts, as well as goods from other local artists and creatives. Will also function as a screen printing business with a press in the shop. This will be directly east of FlashBack and have some of their space underground.
Links
County Assessor Site (http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/AN-R.asp?ACCOUNTNO=R047240270)
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wschnitt 05-20-2012, 10:50 AM I was told yesterday the Hotels and Motels store truly is leaving business and will be out within 60 days. One person told me retail would be going in there and another told me that there's nothing definite going in.
Im going to miss window shopping dirty nursing home mattresses, toilets and dismantled deli cases.
Teo9969 05-20-2012, 12:20 PM I was told yesterday the Hotels and Motels store truly is leaving business and will be out within 60 days. One person told me retail would be going in there and another told me that there's nothing definite going in.
Tear it down and build some 3 to 6 story residential!
Ah...we can dream...
Spartan 05-20-2012, 02:21 PM It's actually a somewhat worthwhile structure. I think TLC would surprise some.
It's great street-front retail that could easily renovated much like what has already happened to a good chunk of 23rd.
I hope the sell the building, as I'm sure anyone who would buy it would only further the resurgence of that strip. I bet they would have many interested buyers.
betts 05-20-2012, 10:54 PM I was told it has been sold (in that a contract exists, not that it has closed). Again, we'll see if my information is reliable.
MidCenturyModOKC 06-26-2012, 10:29 PM There is a very decrepid Filling Station just off NW 23rd on Walker. Cannot locate an address and therefore cannot find it on County Accessor. Does anyone know what I am referring to?
I have always been fascinated with re-purposed filling stations! If anyone knows of ANY for sale in NW OKC PLEASE let me know! I think they make such great opportunities for businesses and homes.
There is a very decrepid Filling Station just off NW 23rd on Walker. Cannot locate an address and therefore cannot find it on County Accessor. Does anyone know what I am referring to?
I think you mean this property at 2425 N. Walker:
http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/sketches/picfile/2683/R047240180001qA.jpg
Here's a link to the property record at the County Assessor's site:
http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/AN-R.asp?ACCOUNTNO=R047240180
It's owned by an LLC that traces back to this person:
JEREMY FORAKER
114 NW 6TH ST STE 206
OKLAHOMA CITY OK 73102
http://www.lrcre.com/professionals
This is the same group that just bought the old Hale Building that was just demolished.
MidCenturyModOKC 06-26-2012, 11:19 PM Wow you are good! haha, looks like they have beaten me to punch on this one! If anyone knows of another similar property to investigate please let me know!
CuatrodeMayo 07-31-2012, 06:04 PM Interesting tidbit from Uptown23rd's FB page...
Keep your eyes on the 500 Block of 23rd Street, big changes coming soon!!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Uptown23rd/258902067511175
betts 07-31-2012, 07:20 PM That's the one I heard was sold a couple of months ago. The source was good: a "landlord" in that area, so it must be true. That will make a huge difference. It would be nice if it would jumpstart something in the Tower Theatre block.
No sale has hit the assessor yet but it sounds like one is imminent.
That is really a key property situated right in the middle of this burgeoning strip.
The other big hurdle is that horrible strip center shown as 48-51 above.
We know at some point the Tower is going to come back, so these two large properties are the most important remaining pieces of the 23rd Street puzzle.
So many great things happening on and around 23rd street over the next few months!
Spartan 07-31-2012, 08:33 PM Interesting tidbit from Uptown23rd's FB page...
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Uptown23rd/258902067511175
Fingers crossed for a concert venue operator
Skyline 08-01-2012, 10:03 AM So many great things happening on and around 23rd street over the next few months!
Any hints to these great things to come? ...
If it's true,,, I should go see what's inside "The Hotel/Motel" "Going out of Business" building at 23rd & Walker, before they (and I won't believe it until I see it) may actually be Gone! For some strange reason I want to go inside and look around at old coffee pots and used toilet seats. Also the giant guardian statues at the entrance seem interesting, they would look good in my back yard.
CuatrodeMayo 08-01-2012, 12:15 PM I did that recently...it was definitely an interesting field trip.
BoulderSooner 08-01-2012, 12:22 PM Any hints to these great things to come? ...
If it's true,,, I should go see what's inside "The Hotel/Motel" "Going out of Business" building at 23rd & Walker, before they (and I won't believe it until I see it) may actually be Gone! For some strange reason I want to go inside and look around at old coffee pots and used toilet seats. Also the giant guardian statues at the entrance seem interesting, they would look good in my back yard.
unless it has changed recently the sign says "going out FOR business"
Teo9969 08-02-2012, 12:08 PM Interesting tidbit from Uptown23rd's FB page...
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Uptown23rd/258902067511175
"South side soon, North side in the future."
PhiAlpha 08-17-2012, 06:09 PM Interesting tidbit from Uptown23rd's FB page...
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Uptown23rd/258902067511175
I spoke with the owner of the hotel/motel liquidation store today and he indicated that he did sell the entire store and parking lot. He said they will likely be out by October or the end of the year and will be auctioning off most of the inventory starting with the kitchen/restaurant equipment tomorrow. He said that the new landlord is planning on renovating the building and turning it into a "shopping center" which I assume means shops/restaurants/businesses etc... Not sure if that is old news, but it sounds promising. Any renovation of that space will be a huge improvement for that block.
Urban Pioneer 08-29-2012, 02:36 PM What's this 23rd street meeting ton I keep hearing about?
Informational meeting for volunteers who want to help beautify Uptown 23rd 6PM tonight at Grandad's, 317 NW 23rd.
My wife attended the meeting last night (I am out of town on business) and had very favorable things to say about the Uptown23rd group and Grandad's. We live in the area and will be volunteering for Uptown23rd every chance we can get. She said Grandad's is going to be a very fun spot, and most importantly for us, SMOKE FREE!! We love the Blue Note and the Sip, but sometimes it's nice to have a smoke free option as well. She was told it would open around the end of Sept.
Thanks for the report, jrod.
Slowly but surely, that area is really coming along.
Cant' wait to hear about what is happening with the old Hotel / Motel Liquidation buildings.
AHA!! Now this is all starting to make sense...
We had heard a big deal was brewing for the Hotel Liquidator properties (shown in yellow below).
The company applying to close the double alley behind these parcels -- LLC's affiliated with Land Run Commercial (http://www.lrcre.com/) -- is the same one that has been acquiring a ton of surrounding properties (shown in pink). Certainly, they are planning some sort of big development.
Land Run is the same company that purchased and demolished the Hale Photo Building. I bet they have some other investment partners in these deals.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/fr23rd.jpg
Teo9969 08-30-2012, 12:44 PM If they can hit a home run at this spot on 23rd...
Teo9969 08-30-2012, 02:03 PM I mean...part of me says just go ahead and have The Edge @ 23rd
There are obviously better uses, but if you said take The Edge @ 23rd or roll the dice, I'd lean towards the bird in the hand.
mcca7596 08-31-2012, 09:59 AM I'm hoping for something along the lines of a small mixed use town center development proposed by the Land Run LLC.
lasomeday 08-31-2012, 11:38 AM Does anyone know anything about Land Run LLC? What have they done so far in OKC?
wschnitt 09-02-2012, 09:27 PM They already boarded up the apartment building and a house on the north side of 24th, towards the east end. A dumpster is on site at the Tull Garage Building. I really love that building and am so glad it is getting fixed up.
wschnitt 09-03-2012, 02:06 PM They are wasting no time here. Clean up crews on site with front loaders and 4 dumpsters.
Teo9969 09-03-2012, 02:13 PM they are wasting no time here. Clean up crews on site with front loaders and 4 dumpsters.
BUT iT'S LABOR DAY!!!!!!!
metro 09-04-2012, 08:50 AM Labor Day is a holiday that has lost its meaning.
Here's an updated map with some of the more significant newer developments identified:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/23rdall.jpg
Looks like we'll find out Land Run's plans in a few weeks, as the planning commission has asked them to submit their redevelopment plans in order for them to fully consider closing the alley just behind 23rd Street.
Article in today's Journal Record.
I've heard really good things about Land Run's plans, which will most likely feature brick store-fronts along 23rd.
Uptown whirl: NW 23rd Street lots sold as neighborhood’s comeback picks up steam
By Brianna Bailey
Oklahoma City reporter. Contact: 405-278-2847, brianna.bailey@journalrecord.com, @briannabailey80.
Posted: 09:53 PM Monday, September 10, 2012
OKLAHOMA CITY – The revitalization of the Uptown NW 23rd Street neighborhood continues to gain momentum and at least one real estate firm has redevelopment plans for it.
Over the past nine months, a limited liability company with ties to Oklahoma City-based Land Run Commercial Real Estate Advisors has bought up most of the block between NW 23rd and NW 24th streets between N. Dewey and N. Walker avenues. The properties include several vacant lots on NW 24th and a vacant, dilapidated service station facing Walker. The company also recently purchased the old Hotel and Motel Liquidation store at NW 23rd and Walker.
Mike and Janet Jezdan, who own Hotel and Motel Liquidation, confirmed that they have sold their property to Land Run, but declined to comment further. Situated in an old department store building, the liquidation store has been in operation for 21 years at 519 NW 23rd St. For the past several years the store has had signs in the windows advertising that it was going out of business. The signs have been taken down.
Calls to Land Run were not immediately returned on Monday.
Land Run has asked the Oklahoma City Planning Commission for permission to close an alleyway behind the Hotel and Motel Liquidation store.
Commission staff recommended that Land Run present its redevelopment plans to the city, but it hasn’t done so yet.
“There’s potential redevelopment happening there, but I have not seen anything firm yet,” Oklahoma City Planning Director Russell Claus said.
Several business owners in the area said Land Run’s redevelopment plans include a new shopping center at NW 23rd and Walker.
“We are very enthusiastic about Land Run being a part of Uptown 23rd,” said Jennifer Seal, an organizer for Uptown 23rd, a merchant’s association that is drumming up volunteers to promote the neighborhood. “They are very visionary and forward-thinking in their plans.”
The NW 23rd Street corridor is quickly becoming one of the city’s trendiest corridors for restaurants and shops.
Two new restaurants, Pizza 23 and an Orange Leaf Frozen Yogurt, are preparing to open at 600 NW 23rd St. Across the street, Grandad’s Bar also is getting ready to open within the next few months in a long-empty storefront at 317 NW 23rd St.
A recent Uptown 23rd meeting drew anywhere from 35 to 50 people anxious to volunteer to help promote the area, organizers said.
A Good Egg Dining Group, which owns two pioneering Uptown restaurants, Cheever’s Cafe and Tucker’s Onion Burgers, has purchased a long-empty building at 2500 N. Walker Ave. and plans to fix it up to use as an office and a production center for its growing catering business. The building was once the home of Tull Overhead Door Co., but has been empty for the past eight years.
“We’ve had our eye on that building for five or six years,” said Keith Paul, one of the founders of A Good Egg. “We knew it would make a huge impact for that area when we bought it.”
Spartan 09-12-2012, 02:34 PM I'm hoping for something along the lines of a small mixed use town center development proposed by the Land Run LLC.
John Belt, who basically owns Paseo, told me it could be mixed-use.
They couldn't possibly do retail for the entire property, as it's very large and would require a lot of zoning changes.
I would expect retail along 23rd and maybe just behind, then housing and/or office to the north.
Teo9969 09-12-2012, 04:29 PM They couldn't possibly do retail for the entire property, as it's very large and would require a lot of zoning changes.
I would expect retail along 23rd and maybe just behind, then housing and/or office to the north.
What are the odds that the development spans the entire block?
Do we know a ballpark amount they are planning to spend on their development?
Here is a map of everything they own in yellow and pink.
I'm sure they are working on the couple of parcels that remain of the 23rd Street frontage:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/fr23rd2.jpg
These are the two parcels not owned by Land Run:
http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/sketches/picfile/2683/R047240360001rA.jpg
http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/sketches/picfile/2683/R047240390001qA.jpg
Buffalo Bill 09-20-2012, 10:22 AM Here is a map of everything they own in yellow and pink.
I'm sure they are working on the couple of parcels that remain of the 23rd Street frontage:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/fr23rd2.jpg
These are the two parcels not owned by Land Run:
http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/sketches/picfile/2683/R047240360001rA.jpg
http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/sketches/picfile/2683/R047240390001qA.jpg
Saw a presentation from Johnathan Russell of Landmark regarding plans for the 500 block properties. It looks very promising. Re-skinning all the buildings on 23rd Street. Parking on the north side. Restaurant with a roof-top terrace. Mostly retail as far as I can tell. Said it will get started before the end of the year. TAP Architecture was working on it. I'm sure it will have its fair share of detractors, in a manner similar to the response on the downtown parking garage.
GaryOKC6 09-20-2012, 11:20 AM Saw a presentation from Johnathan Russell of Landmark regarding plans for the 500 block properties. It looks very promising. Re-skinning all the buildings on 23rd Street. Parking on the north side. Restaurant with a roof-top terrace. Mostly retail as far as I can tell. Said it will get started before the end of the year. TAP Architecture was working on it. I'm sure it will have its fair share of detractors, in a manner similar to the response on the downtown parking garage.
As in Landmark Land Company? Where did you see this presentation?
I suspected Land Run might have a big development partner.
All of this is supposed to come before the planning department and Urban Design Committee so hopefully we'll see some definite plans soon.
As in Landmark Land Company? Where did you see this presentation?
I suspected Land Run might have a big development partner.
All of this is supposed to come before the planning department and Urban Design Committee so hopefully we'll see some definite plans soon.
I believe that Pete may have meant Land Run. Johnathan Russel is the president of Land Run Commercial Real Estate Advisors
Ah, makes sense.
Looking forward to seeing their plans. I know the merchants along 23rd Street are excited by them.
Buffalo Bill 09-20-2012, 11:35 AM Sorry. Land Run, not Landmark.
Sorry. Land Run, not Landmark.
Where did you see this presentation?
Buffalo Bill 09-20-2012, 11:52 AM Where did you see this presentation?
In his Heritage Hills home. It was a General Meeting for the neighborhood, but there were plenty of other attendees. I believe Johnathan is presenting it to the Uptown 23rd group soon.
Thanks so much for the information. Very interesting.
wschnitt 09-24-2012, 01:45 PM Saw a TV commercial that HML is finally Liquidating. PRAISE JESUS
ljbab728 09-27-2012, 11:57 PM A Grandads update by Steve.
Grandad's brings 'old school' back to Uptown NW 23rd Street in Oklahoma City | NewsOK.com (http://newsok.com/grandads-brings-old-school-back-to-uptown-nw-23rd-street-in-oklahoma-city/article/3713657)
And a video about "The Rise" in the same area. I would like it better if the sidewalk tables fronted 23rd or Walker but it is still a good concept.
OKC Central: Development along NW 23 includes The Rise | NewsOK Videos (http://newsok.com/okc-central-development-along-nw-23-includes-the-rise/multimedia/video/1865158188001)
betts 09-28-2012, 12:44 AM I noticed they said they already had enough merchants lined up to fill the center. It will be interesting to see what the type and calibre of merchants are. It would be nice to see an eclectic mix of primarily local stores of nice quality. That might be a stopgap for our lack of downtown retail.
wschnitt 09-28-2012, 06:31 AM In the video they do not show the parking very well. I wonder how much is actually going to be there.
CuatrodeMayo 09-28-2012, 08:02 AM A Grandads update by Steve.
Grandad's brings 'old school' back to Uptown NW 23rd Street in Oklahoma City | NewsOK.com (http://newsok.com/grandads-brings-old-school-back-to-uptown-nw-23rd-street-in-oklahoma-city/article/3713657)
And a video about "The Rise" in the same area. I would like it better if the sidewalk tables fronted 23rd or Walker but it is still a good concept.
OKC Central: Development along NW 23 includes The Rise | NewsOK Videos (http://newsok.com/okc-central-development-along-nw-23-includes-the-rise/multimedia/video/1865158188001)
1. All of the other signage on the project says "retail", but on the north facade there was a sign for a Summit Co.
2. The sidewalk dining areas in the rear will probably not be pleasant places to be. They are north facing, so their use in cooler weather will be limited. Also, without some sort of buffer between the cars and the sidewalk, it will be like eating in the parking lot.
3. All those blank white areas are most likely EIFS. This feels like a cheap, suburban strip mall plunked down on the corner of Walker & 23rd. (It could just be the rendering)
4. Will there be a sea of parking to the north? How will the interface between this project and the neighborhood to the north be handled?
Overall this is a definite win for the area any way you slice it, I just wish the developer would spend just a bit more to put it on the next level.
EDIT: The Rise? I understand the reasoning behind the name, but this project is at the bottom of a hill...
G.Walker 09-28-2012, 08:37 AM Love the project...great addition to the area, 23rd St is on a roll...............
Glad to read about The Rise. Reminds me of the prominent uptown shopping in the '60s and '70s. Parked in the back, behind the stores. We have always appreciated that Lillian Strickler kept that NW 23rd location.
HangryHippo 09-28-2012, 09:21 AM 2. The sidewalk dining areas in the rear will probably not be pleasant places to be. They are north facing, so their use in cooler weather will be limited. Also, without some sort of buffer between the cars and the sidewalk, it will be like eating in the parking lot.
3. All those blank white areas are most likely EIFS. This feels like a cheap, suburban strip mall plunked down on the corner of Walker & 23rd. (It could just be the rendering)
4. Will there be a sea of parking to the north? How will the interface between this project and the neighborhood to the north be handled?
Overall this is a definite win for the area any way you slice it, I just wish the developer would spend just a bit more to put it on the next level.
All of this crossed my mind as well.
betts 09-28-2012, 09:21 AM The sidewalk dining areas in the rear will probably not be pleasant places to be. They are north facing, so their use in cooler weather will be limited. Also, without some sort of buffer between the cars and the sidewalk, it will be like eating in the parking lot.
I actually think that in Oklahoma putting dining on the north side is a good idea. Most people like to eat outdoors in the summertime, and the northern exposure makes it far more tolerable. We've got balconies on the north and south sides of our house and we find ourselves on the north balcony far more often than the southern ones, regardless of the time of year. It's just kind of happened that way. However, I agree that there will have to be some sort of screening of parking or the view will ruin any relief from the heat.
All those blank white areas are most likely EIFS. This feels like a cheap, suburban strip mall plunked down on the corner of Walker & 23rd. (It could just be the rendering)...
That was my thought as well. If it's not going to be a huge improvement in terms of materials, as least I hope they use something that looks vintage rather than just cheap. While anything would be an improvement over what is there now, I'd like to see them do something to actually significantly improve the area. If they're hoping to attract retail of a calibre above strip shopping malls, materials are important as well.
Overall this is a definite win for the area any way you slice it, I just wish the developer would spend just a bit more to put it on the next level.
I couldn't agree more.
LakeEffect 09-28-2012, 09:35 AM 1. All of the other signage on the project says "retail", but on the north facade there was a sign for a Summit Co.
2. The sidewalk dining areas in the rear will probably not be pleasant places to be. They are north facing, so their use in cooler weather will be limited. Also, without some sort of buffer between the cars and the sidewalk, it will be like eating in the parking lot.
3. All those blank white areas are most likely EIFS. This feels like a cheap, suburban strip mall plunked down on the corner of Walker & 23rd. (It could just be the rendering)
4. Will there be a sea of parking to the north? How will the interface between this project and the neighborhood to the north be handled?
Overall this is a definite win for the area any way you slice it, I just wish the developer would spend just a bit more to put it on the next level.
EDIT: The Rise? I understand the reasoning behind the name, but this project is at the bottom of a hill...
It's entirely too early to criticize the material choice... you said it, it might just be the rendering. Also, this only shows the commercial portion of their much larger project, so there will be things to the north to focus on. I think the parking and landscaping will be designed to limit vehicle visibility in the end.
Here's the rendering for the old Hotel Liquidator's site, to be renamed The Rise:
http://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-846606c28890edc9dd8b1a742d68bb55.jpg
Here's the rendering for the old Hotel Liquidator's site, to be renamed The Rise:
http://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-846606c28890edc9dd8b1a742d68bb55.jpg
That looks better than the video, imo.
Strangely the thing that seems off to me is that they want it to be an "upscale" concept. Maybe they just mean design, but I am hoping to see 23rd to continue to evolve into Oklahoma City's place for more trendy retailers. I think we could use something a little more edgy (think melrose, haight, or east village) and 23rd has that potential, imo. And we all know that it's a long shot for it to be a truly upscale district with high end boutiques, but I think something filled with, as Betts said, an eclectic mix of local retailers that each offer something new and different for the city would be much more successful. It would certainly make it more of a destination corridor. Not every development has to play to the masses and I actually think 23rd's long term success is dependent on it finding a niche and consciously cultivating it by selecting unique tenants. As a city, our retail mix has conservative preppy, mass market catalog/mall looks, and wal-mart chic covered. What we don't have is fashion forward trendy or edgy unique retailers, and that would probably be the sweet spot for 23rd, imo.
EDIT: The Rise? I understand the reasoning behind the name, but this project is at the bottom of a hill...
Honestly, I don't know why it needs a name at all.
Steve 09-28-2012, 11:20 AM 1. All of the other signage on the project says "retail", but on the north facade there was a sign for a Summit Co.
2. The sidewalk dining areas in the rear will probably not be pleasant places to be. They are north facing, so their use in cooler weather will be limited. Also, without some sort of buffer between the cars and the sidewalk, it will be like eating in the parking lot.
3. All those blank white areas are most likely EIFS. This feels like a cheap, suburban strip mall plunked down on the corner of Walker & 23rd. (It could just be the rendering)
4. Will there be a sea of parking to the north? How will the interface between this project and the neighborhood to the north be handled?
Overall this is a definite win for the area any way you slice it, I just wish the developer would spend just a bit more to put it on the next level.
EDIT: The Rise? I understand the reasoning behind the name, but this project is at the bottom of a hill...
It won't be EIFS or stucco according to Russell - McDermid indicated it's a glass panel kind of facade typically used during the era NW 23 was originally built.
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