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Directly behind The Rise with the Pump Bar in the background

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Here are some pictures of the blight surrounding The Rise and the Pump Bar

Some--what can be--beautiful old homes

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A super cool little run down skate park. I would love to fix this place up and put in some better ramps and lighting and put an outdoor slushy/shaved ice bar here. Wouldn't make much money, but still would be cool. If I could, I'd actually give all of the money from the slush/ice cream/snow cone bar to the district to help improve it
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That little white building would make a cool 50's style bar/rooftop bar and the building behind could be a hobby shop or something..
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Man.. really wish I had at least half a mill to invest here. So much potential and I bet a you'd see a huge return

Great pictures, PluPan. As a guy who hasn't been down there in a few years, I really appreciate it.

Great pictures, PluPan. As a guy who hasn't been down there in a few years, I really appreciate it.anytime man :)

Here are some pictures of the blight surrounding The Rise and the Pump Bar

Some--what can be--beautiful old homes

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I wouldn't call that blight. As I recall, they were all occupied and maintained. Residents were evicted when the properties were sold to the developer over a year ago.

The sheets of plywood over the windows doesn't exactly make the area look not blighted.

I wouldn't call that blight. As I recall, they were all occupied and maintained. Residents were evicted when the properties were sold to the developer over a year ago.good to hear then
Hopefully there are plans to remodel these

The sheets of plywood over the windows doesn't exactly make the area look not blighted.does to me. Especially when there is writing on it that says call the police if you see intruders. But as stated, they were apparently bought by developers so there are hopefully plans

i am really starting to wonder about the rise...little to no progress still. this is aloft all over again, I just hope they don't lose all their pre-leased tenants with these massive delays. I know if I was flashback pub or any of the prospective tenants I would be pissed with the slow go.

All the homes pictured as well as the 4-plex are to be part of a housing development by Marva Ellard. The existing properties will be renovated and some new units added to the surrounding vacant lots.

Thanks for the phots PluPan!

I know that The Rise had to work through some plan changes due to having to add some staircases, but that was straightened out a while ago.

It seems they are still moving very slowly across the whole development and I'm not sure why. You'd think they would be busting their tails to get open ASAP.

I've been driving by the Rise and wondering whats taking so long because it doesn't look like much is going on. But then I noticed a lot of aluminum studs on the inside (not evident in the pictures), so apparently there is much going on that we don't perceive...

The former chef from Packard just signed on to create the menu for another bar in the Rise in addition to The Pump. I'll let post the bar name when I can.


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Wow, this site is still a disaster area. They are going to have to work like crazy to get anything open before the holidays.

Thanks to warreng88 for the photos:

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I cannot see any progress over the last month short of boarding up the windows. Again, as I posted in the other thread, it would be nice if there were a realistic ETA provided.

Yes, this is not simply a case of "renovation projects take time".

There have been several changes to the plans (egress and the like) which have slowed things dramatically. Then there was a hold on some building permits due to other various issues (some holds are still in effect) and finally one of their key players (Jeremy Foraker) left Land Run just after this project got rolling. Steve also made reference to "internal problems" in his last chat.

Fortunately for Land Run, the tenants don't really have the option of simply going elsewhere. And even if they wanted to, I suspect all of them have a decent amount invested in design, plans and equipment specifically for their space.

The only tenant I know that has bailed is the Okay See, which has set up shop at The Hub on Film Row.

Also, nothing at all has happened regarding the boarded-up cottages and fourplex that Land Run acquired as a part of this redevelopment.


Really hope they get rolling soon but there are still dirt floors in a good part of the space and we are almost into July. Hard to imagine this all coming together and the tenants getting all their work done in just a few months.

I'm just glad to see those awful Mansard roofs (awning really) gone. But then I find buildings laid bare and under construction beautiful, so there is that.

Pete, how long ago did The Okay See leave The Rise? Do you know how much square footage they had in their space?

Pete, how long ago did The Okay See leave The Rise? Do you know how much square footage they had in their space?


They bailed very early. Just were going to take a small space in a half basement.

Not a big loss for The Rise whatsoever and I'm pretty sure every other tenant is still on board.

On their Facebook page, Pizzeria Gusto, indicates they will open late August-early September. I realize this is a separate building but at least there is some progress being made

Steel started going up on the drake to support the new front. Also all sidewalks and curbs have been removed on 23rd. The front should start taking shape soon.

Yes, this is not simply a case of "renovation projects take time".

There have been several changes to the plans (egress and the like) which have slowed things dramatically. Then there was a hold on some building permits due to other various issues (some holds are still in effect) and finally one of their key players (Jeremy Foraker) left Land Run just after this project got rolling. Steve also made reference to "internal problems" in his last chat.

I believe that Land Run has lost a few other key players as well. If so that is not a good sign, especially for a new real estate company. I hope this gets completed no matter the timetable, but I would guess that there has to be some internal issues that are starting to boil over.

Having said that it's already and improvement from what was there before. haha.

Wow, this site is still a disaster area. They are going to have to work like crazy to get anything open before the holidays.

Thanks to warreng88 for the photos:

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For clarification, those black things on the back of the building in the first photo are holes in the building, not pieces of wood painted black, in case anyone was wondering. :)

It seems like the majority of the work going on in this space is for the parking lot behind it which is a completely mystery to me. I would think it would just need to be graded for work trucks, get the buildings shored up so work can start on the interior, then get the parking lot poured.

Yeah, the internal problems don't sound good. Wonder what is going on that so many are bailing?

Yeah, the internal problems don't sound good. Wonder what is going on that so many are bailing?

Umm, the only entity that has "bailed" is Okay See. Everyone else is on board.

Umm, the only entity that has "bailed" is Okay See. Everyone else is on board.

Check the thread. Hemingstein is talking about Landrun, not the Rise.

Check the thread. Hemingstein is talking about Landrun, not the Rise.

Gotcha.

Check the thread. Hemingstein is talking about Landrun, not the Rise.

Thank you, dan.

Holy crap!?!? I've capture a shot of actual work occurring at the rise! I feel like I just found Bigfoot!

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Wow, look at the state of that place... Dirt floors, big trenches, no exterior walls or facade, no sidewalks.

They have got a long, long way to go.


Thanks for the photo.

Holy crap!?!? I've capture a shot of actual work occurring at the rise! I feel like I just found Bigfoot!

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Those guys look they are working very hard. LOL

Looks like they made some changes to the southeast corner so that it will match the existing facade. Also, it's a cement-board stucco so maybe it will look a bit better than standard eifs.

http://www.okc.gov/AgendaPub/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=2330567

Looks like they made some changes to the southeast corner so that it will match the existing facade. Also, it's a cement-board stucco so maybe it will look a bit better than standard eifs.

Thanks for that.

Here are the changes:

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Not sure what this is supposed to mean...

FlashBack RetroPub ‏@FlashBackRtroPb 18m
We were hoping it wouldn't come to this, but LandRun Commercial Real Estate is forcing our hand go to the mattresses.

Well crud

Other than the Pump Bar and Pizzeria Gusto (which are in out-buildings) I don't think any real work has been done on the interior for the various tenants.

We are almost in August... Hard to imagine anyone being open before the holidays.

Something has gone seriously wrong here.

Haven't we been hearing that work was still progressing and things were just moving slowly? It's been pretty clear for awhile now that something was amiss.

Other than the Pump Bar and Pizzeria Gusto (which are in out-buildings) I don't think any real work has been done on the interior for the various tenants.

We are almost in August... Hard to imagine anyone being open before the holidays.

Something has gone seriously wrong here.

I've heard Fedora may be looking elsewhere as well.

Wasn't it supposed to be open for Summer of 2014? At this rate, I would be surpised if it was open Summer of 2015...

Wasn't it supposed to be open for Summer of 2014? At this rate, I would be surpised if it was open Summer of 2015...

Or ever, if tenants bail. There's plenty of storefronts on Broadway or in Midtown if the builder can't get their act together.

I work late and often drive by. And actually saw people working there at 3 am.

I've heard Fedora may be looking elsewhere as well.

I think that concept would be great for the Paseo Plunge space. Which needs a tenant.

I won't be sad if the Rise still happens, AND the retropub ends up on AA instead... win win

Wasn't it supposed to be open for Summer of 2014? At this rate, I would be surpised if it was open Summer of 2015...

It was originally targeted for the Fall of 2013 if I remember correctly...

Not sure what this is supposed to mean...

FlashBack RetroPub ‏@FlashBackRtroPb 18m
We were hoping it wouldn't come to this, but LandRun Commercial Real Estate is forcing our hand go to the mattresses.

So, some of us aren't paranoid after all.

All I've been reading in mainstream media is "these kinds of projects take time." Well, sure. But it's disappointing to see announced tenants bail, not that I was all revved up about the '80s retro concept.

So, some of us aren't paranoid after all.

All I've been reading in mainstream media is "these kinds of projects take time." Well, sure. But it's disappointing to see announced tenants bail, not that I was all revved up about the '80s retro concept.

Yeah, I have had my doubts about this from early on...just like aLoft. There is a normal pace of construction and development with delays/issues built in for all projects, big or small, but this has seemed like amateurs were in charge from day 1. In addition, I am not sure why Flashback or any of other tenants would prefer to be on the backside of this development anyways. Seems like you are setting yourself up for failure. With these massive delays and other attractive options available with much more visibility, not sure why any of those tenants would put up with this.

FlashBack posted this photo and compared it to one taken in January, noting very little has been done in over six months:

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For what it's worth, there were workers there all day yesterday and into the night.

Maybe the developers have figured out if they don't s--- or get off the pot this whole thing will sink like the Titanic when their confirmed tenants start abandoning them.

I wonder if land run used a contractor that got in over his head and had to fire them and go with someone else. It seems the last month has had a lot more going on.

From warreng88. We're almost in August and they still have a very long way to go:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/rise072714.jpg

Cement truck was there this morning. Looked like they were pouring slab.

Apparently the skilled construction team at The Rise busted a water line today. At least that means they were working...but come on!!!

apparently the skilled construction team at the rise busted a water line today. At least that means they were working...but come on!!!

lol.

omg free water for everyone! It's a gift to the neighborhood for the delays, bring your boots and buckets!

omg free water for everyone! It's a gift to the neighborhood for the delays, bring your boots and buckets!

I think they just missed the natural lake that had formed in the construction area.

This project has been taking on water for some time.

I think instead of The Rise, it should be named The Sink.

I think they just missed the natural lake that had formed in the construction area.

This project has been taking on water for some time.

I think instead of The Rise, it should be named The Sink.

Love it.

Even God could not sink this project, much like the Titanic.

This project is getting ready to move much faster. Much, much faster.

Well even if it moved up one day in the delayed timeline, it would be like a 10000% increase in speed. So...

(So...) what?

This is great! You should be happy. OKCTalk should rejoice and throw a "blog party" where everyone joins the same chat-room, and pops their own bottle of champagne! (Maybe they could even get out of their pajamas and throw on a tuxedo shirt)

When this project is done, all of this BS talk will be irrelevant and forgettable. Lets not forget what Landrun has done for 23rd St. They are/were among the first believers in 23rd St... What have you done for 23rd St?