The article also says that the front facade will stay the same. That surely wasn't in the plans that I saw released for this project...

The proposed front facade, not the current one. They're making modifications to their proposal on the north side of the building.

Have you seen the modification changes for the north side?

If they're going to make the changes to the south side that were shown in the renderings by fall of this year, they've got a fair bit of work to do.

As a reminder, there is a separate thread for Pump Bar here:

Pump Bar - OKCTalk (http://www.okctalk.com/showwiki.php?title=Pump+Bar)

Why not a separate thread for The Rise which is a helluva lot larger development than Pump Bar?

Because The Rise was already part of a larger thread and Pump Bar was started from scratch; I just recently started doing that.

It takes tons of time to split these things out.

Can't believe nobody has mentioned this. Or I missed it. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001982072034&sk=info

FlashBack Retro Pub -- Coming to Uptown 23rd.

Can't believe nobody has mentioned this. Or I missed it. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001982072034&sk=info

FlashBack Retro Pub -- Coming to Uptown 23rd.

They haven't identified a location as of yet, but The Rise is a good possibility.

Looks like one of the principals is in charge of sales & marketing at Aloft OKC.

Can't believe nobody has mentioned this. Or I missed it. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001982072034&sk=info

FlashBack Retro Pub -- Coming to Uptown 23rd.

Oh wow this is amazing. This is exactly the kind of bar I wish we had in OKC. When does it open?

Can't believe nobody has mentioned this. Or I missed it. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001982072034&sk=info

FlashBack Retro Pub -- Coming to Uptown 23rd.

I want to like this idea, but I really don't want to hear Whitney Houston anymore. I'm sure someone will like it, but it seems kinda cheesy. To each his / her own.

I want to like this idea, but I really don't want to hear Whitney Houston anymore. I'm sure someone will like it, but it seems kinda cheesy. To each his / her own.

Well luckily, they will have hundreds of thousands of people that could potentially visit the place. Being newly 21, I will go anywhere and everywhere I can find, ad I'll bring all my friends with me. Hell, me and my friends found a hole-in-the-wall called Blue Bayou on the Southside and had a blast. Whitney won't be a problem.

I want to like this idea, but I really don't want to hear Whitney Houston anymore. I'm sure someone will like it, but it seems kinda cheesy. To each his / her own.

Again, this sounds like "The Max" in Tulsa, which is pretty popular.

Sounds totally rad!!


If done right, I bet it would be a huge success.

Again, this sounds like "The Max" in Tulsa, which is pretty popular.

Agreed. A lot of young people from OKC go to Tulsa just to go to The Max. It's a unique place that's really popular with the hipster crowd and it will be great to have something like it here.

I have it on good authority that there will be two new restaurants going into The Rise (in addition to the stand-alone Pump Bar). Should be able to share more in a couple of weeks.

Not heard of any retail tenants, though.

I have it on good authority that there will be two new restaurants going into The Rise (in addition to the stand-alone Pump Bar). Should be able to share more in a couple of weeks.

Not heard of any retail tenants, though.

Ya I heard one was going to be a higher end seafood restaurant from a popular local restaurant group.

Ya I heard one was going to be a higher end seafood restaurant from a popular local restaurant group.

Deep Fork has been pretty quiet since their deal on the founders tower fell through. Good Egg just opened Kitchen 324, but this location is right in the middle of everything else they're doing. Not sure what other popular restaurant groups would put something there unless it was Pearls.

Ya I heard one was going to be a higher end seafood restaurant from a popular local restaurant group.

This is good news as OKC really needs more seafood options. Hopefully it is truly upscale and not a fried seafood joint like so many of the existing options.

Deep Fork has been pretty quiet since their deal on the founders tower fell through. Good Egg just opened Kitchen 324, but this location is right in the middle of everything else they're doing. Not sure what other popular restaurant groups would put something there unless it was Pearls.

...You mean Tower Theater? Founders Tower is the steakhouse and I don't think that was DFG.

Also, there is HSRG and the BTT/Mutt's group...but they don't usually go high-end.

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was HSRG...but high-end is good.

...You mean Tower Theater? Founders Tower is the steakhouse and I don't think that was DFG.

Also, there is HSRG and the BTT/Mutt's group...but they don't usually go high-end.

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was HSRG...but high-end is good.

It was a few years ago, but I thought I read somewhere that Deep Fork was looking to put a steakhouse in the old Nikz space in the founders tower. If they were, it obviously fell through. Kevin George split off from the Interurban group and is currently renovating that space for his steakhouse.

FlashBack RetroPub just announced they are going into The Rise, taking the corner spot on Walker & 23rd (the old Hotel Liquidators spot).

http://www.loopnet.com/xnet/mainsite/HttpHandlers/attachment/ServeAttachment.ashx?FileGuid=064F9CBD-9481-4310-AD8F-D7FBAA834E03&Extension=jpg&Width=627&Height=472&PadImage=True&DisableVisualWatermark=&ClipImage=False&ExactDim=-1&UseThumbnailAsOriginal=False&UseStandardAsOriginal=False

We are also hearing a very well loved local restaurant operator will be opening a seafood concept here.

Not hearing of any retail leases as of yet.


The means with Grandad's, FlashBack and Pump Bar, there will be three new bars in close proximity with the Blue Note within easy waking distance.

That's a bar district my friends!

The Tower Theater is right between FlashBack/Pump and Grandad's/Blue Note. If that would get off the ground, that area would be raging.


This is a photo from FlashBack showing the large parking lot and alley torn up to the north of The Rise.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRBMsEcCMAAgTcd.jpg:large

Uptown pub in Oklahoma City plans to offer 1980s revival | News OK (http://newsok.com/uptown-pub-in-oklahoma-city-plans-to-offer-1980s-revival/article/3875468)

Uptown pub in Oklahoma City plans to offer 1980s revival | News OK (http://newsok.com/uptown-pub-in-oklahoma-city-plans-to-offer-1980s-revival/article/3875468)

I was/am soooo excited about this. I am a Vidiot of the old school. While I was raised primarily by a my mother, a television set, I did have summers and weekends with my father, a video arcade. One thing I've missed since moving here is a retro arcade, and especially pinball.

That being said, after I read this article I am a little worried. These retro arcades need to be a labor of love. Old coin-op machines need a lot of maintenance and care. The best retro arcades are actually outgrowths of private collections of old machines, with the owners being something of hobbyists with an expertise in electronics and coin-op machines. These guys seem cool, but they also seem like a couple of guys who bought some machines on Ebay and don't really know what they are getting themselves into. I hope I'm wrong, but I predict that six months after opening we'll be seeing a forest of "Out of Order" signs taped to the screens of these old games. I also predict no pinball machines:(. All of this is I wrote about arcade machines is doubly true for pinball, which, because of all the moving parts, is particularly time-intensive to maintain.

I think it should be noted that there will be no food at the RetroPub, but with so many restaurants around, I think it will work out very well. Also, it will be non-smoking which is great.

I was/am soooo excited about this. I am a Vidiot of the old school. While I was raised primarily by a my mother, a television set, I did have summers and weekends with my father, a video arcade. One thing I've missed since moving here is a retro arcade, and especially pinball.

That being said, after I read this article I am a little worried. These retro arcades need to be a labor of love. Old coin-op machines need a lot of maintenance and care. The best retro arcades are actually outgrowths of private collections of old machines, with the owners being something of hobbyists with an expertise in electronics and coin-op machines. These guys seem cool, but they also seem like a couple of guys who bought some machines on Ebay and don't really know what they are getting themselves into. I hope I'm wrong, but I predict that six months after opening we'll be seeing a forest of "Out of Order" signs taped to the screens of these old games. I also predict no pinball machines:(. All of this is I wrote about arcade machines is doubly true for pinball, which, because of all the moving parts, is particularly time-intensive to maintain.

That has been the issue with The Max in Tulsa each of the 3 times I've been there. A lot of Out of Order signs, but there are also a lot of machines and the majority work.

Not to be a design snob, but I just looked The Rise rendering and hopefully they're not going to go with that terrible script font for the logo. Not exactly sending the kind of message they're trying to send.

Not to be a design snob, but I just looked The Rise rendering and hopefully they're not going to go with that terrible script font for the logo. Not exactly sending the kind of message they're trying to send.

I totally get you. That font and the Flashback Retropub font aren't retro... just ugly. I hope they work on the typography... That said, I'm extremely excited for these developments.

Not to be a design snob, but I just looked The Rise rendering and hopefully they're not going to go with that terrible script font for the logo. Not exactly sending the kind of message they're trying to send.

What's wrong with the script font? Honestly I think a large, bold font would be more appropriate, but I don't think the script font is that bad.

My guess is the architect did the script logo. Architects like to think they are graphic designers.

Maybe the problem is that it doesn't really need a name.

I'm bumping this up because we just created a dedicated thread for this development.

Cafe 80s?

http://shirtoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/cafe-80s-snap.jpg

Cafe 80s?

http://shirtoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/cafe-80s-snap.jpg

The timing is just about right...

...wouldn't it be cool if Michael J. Fox came for the grand opening? lol

Only if he arrives via hoverboard.

the sign out fron says coming fall 2013...that ain't happening. i have been wondering if this project has stalled out.

Just heard they are about 75% pre-leased.

I'm aware of FlashBack and a seafood restaurant but don't know about any other specific tenants.

the sign out fron says coming fall 2013...that ain't happening. i have been wondering if this project has stalled out.

I was skeptical as soon as the sign went up.

I seem to remember Hotel Motel Liquidation moved out 2 to 4 months after it sold...I assume that was more because at that point HML could pay Land Run rent while Land Run was still ironing out plans, getting leases signed etc. If there is some cool retail going in, it would be nice if they could get things together by December 1. Maybe bring in some people for Holiday shopping and get some people to see that 23rd is gaining some momentum.

I was skeptical as soon as the sign went up.

I seem to remember Hotel Motel Liquidation moved out 2 to 4 months after it sold...I assume that was more because at that point HML could pay Land Run rent while Land Run was still ironing out plans, getting leases signed etc. If there is some cool retail going in, it would be nice if they could get things together by December 1. Maybe bring in some people for Holiday shopping and get some people to see that 23rd is gaining some momentum.

land ran actually purchased the hotel motel liquidation it self in addition to the building .. and relocated in off of 240 .. i also heard that some of the land run partners are going to retain 1 of the retail spaces for another bar

I'm sitting on the Pizza 23 patio as I write this, looking out over The Rise and there is definitely activity.

In fact, I just saw them carry in a large spiral staircase into the far east space, which is to have the rooftop deck.


Also, I don't think it's been mentioned but there has been a split at Land Run, with one of the main players leaving to do his old thing. Not sure how that has played into this development but I bet it's had an effect, as it certainly seems to be behind schedule.

I'll try and grab some photos in a bit.

I'm sitting on the Pizza 23 patio as I write this, looking out over The Rise and there is definitely activity.

In fact, I just saw them carry in a large spiral staircase into the far east space, which is to have the rooftop deck.


Also, I don't think it's been mentioned but there has been a split at Land Run, with one of the main players leaving to do his old thing. Not sure how that has played into this development but I bet it's had an effect, as it certainly seems to be behind schedule.

I'll try and grab some photos in a bit.

Do we know if that split will help or hinder the chances of a high quality development going in just north of The Rise? If that block is developed well, it would be a huge boon to 23rd.

I've heard they have an experienced residential developer (someone who has already done a couple of great local projects) for the property to the north, so hopefully that will still go forward.

Just walked by this entire area and talked to a few people in the know and found out a great deal:

1. There is a deal inked for a seafood restaurant on the far east end of the center; on the corner of Walker & 23rd.
2. FlashBack RetroPub will go in at the far west end.
3. The free standing building directly north on Walker (the old Bora Bora between The Rise and proposed Pump Bar) will be a pizza place operated by the Big Truck group.
4. Pump Bar seems to have their financing in order and is now just working on the final permits
5. A clothing store has also signed a lease.
6. The row of houses along 24th are all boarded up and will be renovated and leased or sold.
7. The remaining vacant land owned by Land Run will be newly-built apartments.

Took a bunch of photos and will upload soon, along with an updated graphic that better depicts what I have described above.


P.S. It's GORGEOUS outside today!!

Just walked by this entire area and talked to a few people in the know and found out a great deal:

1. There is a deal inked for a seafood restaurant on the far east end of the center; on the corner of Walker & 23rd.
2. FlashBack RetroPub will go in at the far west end.
3. The free standing building directly north on Walker (the old Bora Bora between The Rise and proposed Pump Bar) will be a pizza place operated by the Big Truck group.
4. Pump Bar seems to have their financing in order and is now just working on the final permits
5. A clothing store has also signed a lease.
6. The row of houses along 24th are all boarded up and will be renovated and leased or sold.
7. The remaining vacant land owned by Land Run will be newly-built apartments.

Took a bunch of photos and will upload soon, along with an updated graphic that better depicts what I have described above.


P.S. It's GORGEOUS outside today!!

I'm really excited about this whole area. It's going to be awesome.

It would be awesome if north of 24th could incorporate some non residential components. It's never going to happen, but if you made the 2 houses on the west side retail and the 2 houses on the east side bars that could be decked in the front with large fences in the back to keep sound down for neighbors, this area would be incredible:

like this: icenhauer's | history (http://www.icenhauers.com/history.html)

http://www.raineystbars.com

I'm not sure of the plans for the 4 "cottages" along 24th but the developer has only really done residential in the past so I suspect that will be the use. However, those homes could easily be configured in a similar manner to the 23rd Street Court. There is a pretty cool multi-tenant building that is part of this just to the east of the four homes, and that will almost certainly be residential.

BTW, I walked all around that neighborhood and if I was buying a home or rental property in OKC right now, that's where I would invest. Some great multi-tenant buildings all along 24th and to the north, smaller homes with great potential and easy walking distance to 23rd.


I went to Back Door BBQ about 7PM on Friday and as I was coming out to the back parking lot, there was a big crew of guys walking from their apartments (I assume) to either BDBBQ or (more likely) Grandad's. A little slice of awesomeness that you would have never, ever have seen even a year ago.

.....Took a bunch of photos and will upload soon, along with an updated graphic that better depicts what I have described above......

Anxiously awaiting said photos. :)

Another pizza place in the old Bora Bora spot? Do we not have enough pizza places yet?

Another pizza place in the old Bora Bora spot? Do we not have enough pizza places yet?

Nope. Can never have enough pizza places...

Another pizza place in the old Bora Bora spot? Do we not have enough pizza places yet?

Is this the pizza concept that Kathryn Mathis and Chris Lower of BTT, Mutt's, and Back Yard BBQ, are working on?

Is this the pizza concept that Kathryn Mathis and Chris Lower of BTT, Mutt's, and Back Yard BBQ, are working on?


3. The free standing building directly north on Walker (the old Bora Bora between The Rise and proposed Pump Bar) will be a pizza place operated by the Big Truck group.

Sounds like it.

Is this the pizza concept that Kathryn Mathis and Chris Lower of BTT, Mutt's, and Back Yard BBQ, are working on?

Yes. I'm sure they will bring their own unique flair.

I'm going broke with all of the great new restaurants opening up. Thought a second job would help, maybe need a third.

Just walked by this entire area and talked to a few people in the know and found out a great deal:

1. There is a deal inked for a seafood restaurant on the far east end of the center; on the corner of Walker & 23rd.
2. FlashBack RetroPub will go in at the far west end.
3. The free standing building directly north on Walker (the old Bora Bora between The Rise and proposed Pump Bar) will be a pizza place operated by the Big Truck group.
4. Pump Bar seems to have their financing in order and is now just working on the final permits
5. A clothing store has also signed a lease.
6. The row of houses along 24th are all boarded up and will be renovated and leased or sold.
7. The remaining vacant land owned by Land Run will be newly-built apartments.


#5 is exciting, finally some real retail.

When I here the name of this place I can't help but, think of this:


http://youtu.be/vltC-O7PDYQ

I'm doing a rainey st. style concept with the pump. I agree though I would like to see retail on the bungalows. Not going to happen though with the current owner. Also it would be difficult to pass HP.

I'm doing a rainey st. style concept with the pump.

Has the design changed significantly since you last submitted to design review?

I know there was an issue with Airstream restrooms but have you made more changes?


Glad to hear this is still moving forward!

I'm doing a rainey st. style concept with the pump. I agree though I would like to see retail on the bungalows. Not going to happen though with the current owner. Also it would be difficult to pass HP.

In what way are you comparing Pump to Rainey St? They seem very different to me.

I took these photos about a week ago:

http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4727d1381951900-rise-riseoct.jpg


"Cottages" along 24th. These will be remodeled and leased as residential I believe.
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4726d1381950796-rise-riseoct1.jpg


At first I thought they were installing this staircase in the future restaurant space at the far east end, but they were actually demolishing it:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4725d1381950795-rise-riseoct2.jpg


Inside the restaurant space; huge, barrel ceiling:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4724d1381950794-rise-riseoct3.jpg


More of that demolition work:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4723d1381950793-rise-riseoct4.jpg


Restaurant space along Walker:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4722d1381950792-rise-riseoct5.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4508d1380154182-rise-rise5.jpg


This will be a pizza concept by the Big Truck / Backdoor people:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4721d1381950791-rise-riseoct6.jpg


Future site of Pump Bar:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4720d1381950790-rise-riseoct7.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/pumpbar1.jpg


This is the rear of the space along Walker. This is actually a separate unit from the restaurant space and will have a rooftop terrace:
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4719d1381950789-rise-riseoct8.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4509d1380154183-rise-rise6.jpg


Back of building (red dirt will all be parking):
http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4718d1381950788-rise-riseoct9.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4506d1380154180-rise-rise3.jpg



http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/urban-development-buildings/4716d1381950786-rise-riseoct11.jpg

I don't like the rear layout of this with parking almost all up along the stores, but I understand the patrons need parking. It's too bad there's not a garage somewhere along 23rd to help out. It's needed.

I don't like the rear layout of this with parking almost all up along the stores, but I understand the patrons need parking. It's too bad there's not a garage somewhere along 23rd to help out. It's needed.

Agree. I'm glad something is being done to improve this district but I'm not flipping cartwheels over the design.

It's hard to imagine people wanting to sit outside the back of these buildings and stare at an asphalt parking lot.

I do love the look of the Pump Bar, however.

Agree. I'm glad something is being done to improve this district but I'm not flipping cartwheels over the design.

It's hard to imagine people wanting to sit outside the back of these buildings and stare at an asphalt parking lot.

I do love the look of the Pump Bar, however.

Agreed. And I think from the front this will be an excellent renovation. The pizza place and the Pump Bar are great ideas. I just wish there were an alternative to it all revolving around a parking lot, but I get there aren't any alternatives.

Pete, any word on who is heading up the seafood restaurant?

We were in Dallas this past weekend and ate lunch and dinner in Lower Greenville. Like Brookside in Tulsa, most of the buildings are very urban in design (close to the sidewalk with little to no parking in front) but they had pretty big parking lots behind the restaurants we went to. It gave people a place to park and then walk between restaurants/clubs/bars in the evening. This area could always be developed if/when the streetcar stretches to this area.