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Urbanized
08-19-2014, 03:53 PM
http://photos.travellerspoint.com/83709/large_6-Indian_m..ne_pole.jpg

shawnw
08-19-2014, 04:15 PM
Nothing could possibly go wrong there.

OKCisOK4me
08-20-2014, 02:24 PM
I'd still pay to have a professional verify that wiring.

HangryHippo
08-20-2014, 03:02 PM
The roofers are up there daily as well. I can smell em torch down flashing what must be the curbs for these beasts. Also check out my 3,000ft and counting amateur low line install. 90029003

What in the world is going on there? You should certainly have a professional look that over.

Pete
08-20-2014, 03:05 PM
^

Electrical and plumbing have to be inspected before walls are closed up and an occupancy permit is issued.

CuatrodeMayo
08-20-2014, 03:42 PM
Most of that is low-voltage speaker/data wiring. It's not that dangerous.

However, if that was my building, I'd be absolutely throwing a fit about the sloppiness. That is unacceptable.

Mr. Cotter
08-20-2014, 05:07 PM
Heaven help the technician that shows up for a service call in five years.

Urban Pioneer
08-20-2014, 05:18 PM
Yeah, that's all low voltage speaker wiring and CAT 6. DYI. Ian is putting signal cable nearly everywhere himself. If I had time and wasn't tied up with a crew in Norman, I'd go over with a bucket of wire ties and help out today.

IanMcDermid
08-21-2014, 01:30 AM
My fathers reaction: "sheetrock hides many sins."

It's all low voltage. For such a small space it's: 10x pairs of hdmi over cat6. 10x rg6 for slave set boxes(genies and hoppers). A dozen pairs of speaker cable for 6 zones of stereophonic sound. 15x cat6 ip camera lines. Security singnal wires. Thermostat wires. The list goes on.

The reality is: once sheetrock is on no one will ever know. Except you chosen few. Why waste the zip ties? Especially when the foam contractor says "we can do it tomorrow morning, or two weeks from tomorrow morning". And you pull an all nighter to the tune of 28hours. 9013

Urbanized
08-21-2014, 06:11 AM
Rock on Ian.

Mr. Cotter
08-21-2014, 07:58 AM
Well, with foam insulation, it's not like the cabling would have been serviceable anyway, so good job! Now - hurry up an finish so I have a new place to buy a beer.

Urbanized
08-21-2014, 08:28 AM
By rock on I mean out the Sheetrock on...ASAP!

John Knight
08-26-2014, 11:03 AM
Getting ready to pour some concrete (Courtesy of Land Run's Facebook page)!

9044

Plutonic Panda
08-26-2014, 09:14 PM
Photos

https://www.facebook.com/thepumpbar/posts/673848106026981

Pete
08-27-2014, 12:49 PM
Rear parking lot finally going in at The Rise (from Pump Bar's Twitter feed).

Also, Dave Cathey mentioned in an article that The Drake won't be opening until 2015, which is certainly no surprise.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwDoPHUIIAA6B84.jpg:large

Pete
08-29-2014, 05:05 PM
From the Land Run FB page:

https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/936683_758355997536393_7454593108016321453_n.jpg

OklahomaNick
09-29-2014, 11:09 AM
9204

9/29/14: 10:00am

Pete
09-29-2014, 11:11 AM
^

Thanks Nick.

Wow, they have still got a very long way to go.

DoctorTaco
09-29-2014, 11:17 AM
^

Thanks Nick.

Wow, they have still got a very long way to go.

Not disagreeing with you, but I think I have seen drywall going up in the storefronts on the western side of The Rise. I'm thinking these westernmost units may be ready well before the corner unit.

Pete
09-29-2014, 11:18 AM
Yes, I saw a Facebook post by the pilates place that looks like they have a lot of their finish-out complete.

Pete
09-29-2014, 11:20 AM
These are from the Urban Core FB page:



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Plutonic Panda
09-29-2014, 12:46 PM
Is that seafood restaurant still going in?

Pete
09-29-2014, 12:49 PM
Is that seafood restaurant still going in?

Yes.

The Drake.

wsucougz
10-05-2014, 02:09 AM
These are from the Urban Core FB page:

I'm confused about the awning. It looks pretty ratty in the pictures, and yet it's not the original I saw in about April. Is that what it's going to be?

musg8411
10-05-2014, 07:28 AM
I'm confused about the awning. It looks pretty ratty in the pictures, and yet it's not the original I saw in about April. Is that what it's going to be?

I drove by yesterday and it looks they are prepping to recover it. Glass is starting to go in starting on the west end and the drake corner is coming together.

CCOKC
10-05-2014, 11:26 AM
I drove by this morning about 9:30 and there was some activity going on. I thought that was a good sign seeing it is Sunday and all.

wsucougz
10-05-2014, 05:25 PM
I drove by yesterday and it looks they are prepping to recover it. Glass is starting to go in starting on the west end and the drake corner is coming together.

Thanks for the update

Rajah
10-17-2014, 04:20 PM
Is there any word on who took the spots left by The Okay See, Fedora, and Flashback?

Pete
10-23-2014, 12:49 PM
Is there any word on who took the spots left by The Okay See, Fedora, and Flashback?

No, I haven't heard anything.

Looks like they have part of the parking lot in:

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IanMcDermid
10-24-2014, 01:24 AM
Cox cable will have the s/w corner store there. A furniture store moved their lease to fedora's spot and will utilize the upstairs bar area for private entertaining unless they plan on getting a liquor license. What's OK see?

dankrutka
10-24-2014, 01:42 AM
Yikes. Quite the downgrade in tenants.

Chadanth
10-24-2014, 06:14 AM
Cox cable will have the s/w corner store there. A furniture store moved their lease to fedora's spot and will utilize the upstairs bar area for private entertaining unless they plan on getting a liquor license. What's OK see?

I hope it's a Mathis Brothers Mattress store. We don't have nearly enough of those.

PhiAlpha
10-24-2014, 07:48 AM
Cox cable will have the s/w corner store there. A furniture store moved their lease to fedora's spot and will utilize the upstairs bar area for private entertaining unless they plan on getting a liquor license. What's OK see?

At least they filled it up, but man I would be hard pressed to think of a more boring retail substitute for what we're going to be some exciting tenants.

Mr. Cotter
10-24-2014, 07:52 AM
Cox cable will have the s/w corner store there. A furniture store moved their lease to fedora's spot and will utilize the upstairs bar area for private entertaining unless they plan on getting a liquor license. What's OK see?

That's disappointing.

Urbanized
10-24-2014, 07:52 AM
Wig shop?

Urbanized
10-24-2014, 07:52 AM
Dollar store?

PhiAlpha
10-24-2014, 08:36 AM
^ Ok so I guess it could be a little worse

Mr. Cotter
10-24-2014, 08:55 AM
Honestly, a wig shop does as much for me as another Cox Solutions location. And I'll take a clean dollar store (a place I might actually buy things) over a bar owned by a furniture store that might get a liquor license.

The original announced tenant lineup created a destination location. The current one, while an improvement on the order of the most impressive seen anywhere in town, will not do as much spur further development as the influx of destination, first of type in the market locations as were first announced. There are still plenty of things in the Rise I'm excited about: The Drake, a new Old School Bagel, Pump Bar, and Pizzeria Gusto.

Still excited, just a little disappointed.

Urbanized
10-24-2014, 09:12 AM
Restaurant and store fixture resale shop?

Urbanized
10-24-2014, 09:12 AM
Vapes?

Garistotle
10-24-2014, 09:16 AM
I get that a Cox store and a furniture place aren't the coolest tenants you could hope for. Still, the place needs diversity. It needs people coming and going at all different times of the day to sustain success as tenants come and go over the years. Know who will go to the Cox store? People that actually live in the neighborhood. I'll take a useful place like a dollar store over the 6th restaurant "concept" any day. Not that I don't dig cool places to eat and drink, it's just that the development needs more than just that to survive and to be a good neighbor.

Mr. Cotter
10-24-2014, 09:36 AM
The furniture store doesn't bother me at all. Not utilizing the bar space is just less than optimal. I'd prefer a more balanced retail to restaurant ratio. It's really the Cox location that prompted me to post my disappointment: they already have one less than two miles away at 23rd and Villa.

DoctorTaco
10-24-2014, 10:33 AM
I get that a Cox store and a furniture place aren't the coolest tenants you could hope for. Still, the place needs diversity. It needs people coming and going at all different times of the day to sustain success as tenants come and go over the years. Know who will go to the Cox store? People that actually live in the neighborhood. I'll take a useful place like a dollar store over the 6th restaurant "concept" any day. Not that I don't dig cool places to eat and drink, it's just that the development needs more than just that to survive and to be a good neighbor.

I do agree that it is net positive that on the two days a year when I need to set foot in a Cox store I will now be able to ride my bike instead of driving. Small favors and all that.

5alive
10-24-2014, 10:35 AM
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warreng88
10-24-2014, 10:38 AM
Where is the furniture store going with the bar upstairs? Could a seperate entrance be built for the bar and a seperate operator? I think there is more of a demand for rooftop bars in the city than some people think.

Bullbear
10-24-2014, 10:42 AM
Where is the furniture store going with the bar upstairs? Could a seperate entrance be built for the bar and a seperate operator? I think there is more of a demand for rooftop bars in the city than some people think.

Especially as long as there is still smoking in Bars in OKC.. Rooftop and patio bars are the only places me and my friends hang out for the most part.

bchris02
10-24-2014, 11:49 AM
At least they filled it up, but man I would be hard pressed to think of a more boring retail substitute for what we're going to be some exciting tenants.

Agree. Cox solutions? There are few things that I can think of that are more underwhelming than that. Like you say though, at least they filled it up. Going forward I don't have very high hopes for future developments by Land Run given how they have handled this. This had the opportunity to be a slam dunk development and they blew it.

Pete
10-24-2014, 11:57 AM
Remember, there are still tons of empty or under-utilized properties in the immediate area.

You've got the Tower (lots of space along the street front), the property immediately east which is completely empty, the Stamps Center just east of BTT that is mostly empty, David Box's property directly west of the Rise, the strip center directly west of that, etc., etc.

The most important thing about the Rise was to clear out the ratty existing business and bring in the first really new influx of retail on that strip. Has been lots of food service, but not much else.

We should see the rest of the dominoes starting to fall in the near future.

sooner88
10-24-2014, 01:20 PM
Agree. Cox solutions? There are few things that I can think of that are more underwhelming than that. Like you say though, at least they filled it up. Going forward I don't have very high hopes for future developments by Land Run given how they have handled this. This had the opportunity to be a slam dunk development and they blew it.

I would hardly say they blew this development. The Rise, Pizzeria Gusto and the Pump Bar are all quality establishments that will bring a lot of traffic to the area. They took far longer to get this done (and still have a ways to go), but in reality they took a blighted building on a prime corner in an up-and-coming district and made it something special. Tenants can change in the future, but getting this project started helped to spur more development along 23rd.

Urbanized
10-24-2014, 01:22 PM
Phone accessory store?

adaniel
10-24-2014, 01:35 PM
^
Nah, I'm thinking real "destination type" stores. Maybe Hustler Hollywood?

I love OKCTALK, but seriously guys. Only on this board would a fully leased out shopping center that just happens to have a cable store generate this level of consternation.

I actually kind of like the idea of a small, locally owned furniture store.

NWOKCGuy
10-24-2014, 01:43 PM
I don't know about that. They were promoting it as an upscale retail center. Nothing about a Cox store is upscale. In fact it's decidedly not upscale and can be found any strip center in town.
A year after starting work on converting a rundown strip shopping center into an upscale retail destination, Johnathan Russell is celebrating his success at assembling a list of tenants that matched his early ambitions for The Rise at NW 23 and Walker. Retailers flocking to The Rise at NW 23 and Walker in Oklahoma City | News OK (http://newsok.com/retailers-flocking-to-the-rise-at-nw-23-and-walker-in-oklahoma-city/article/3904447)

Jake
10-24-2014, 01:48 PM
The city is ruined now.

Mr. Cotter
10-24-2014, 01:58 PM
Oh, come on. No one has gone anywhere close to that negative. It's a fair comment to make that a Cox Solutions location is less exciting/valuable than the concepts we lost.

Rover
10-24-2014, 02:59 PM
People need to decide if they are only eager for entertainment districts or true urban communities with all types of goods and services people use everyday. The kids tend to want only bars and restaurants. We need all kinds of businesses in our mixed use areas.

These guys are spending a lot of money and taking a pretty sizable risk. They need to fill their spaces with good paying tenants who can make money themselves. If everyone was jumping all over themselves to locate there then they may have had even better choices. These are businesses that want to be there and serve the neighborhood.

bchris02
10-24-2014, 03:00 PM
Oh, come on. No one has gone anywhere close to that negative. It's a fair comment to make that a Cox Solutions location is less exciting/valuable than the concepts we lost.

Exactly. It isn't completely ruined, but it's not the slam dunk it would have been with the original tenants. Still looking forward to the Drake.

For me, Flashback Retropub was what I was looking forward to the most in this development. Hopefully they are able to open in another location.

NWOKCGuy
10-24-2014, 03:18 PM
People need to decide if they are only eager for entertainment districts or true urban communities with all types of goods and services people use everyday. The kids tend to want only bars and restaurants. We need all kinds of businesses in our mixed use areas.

I don't think anyone has an issue with a Cox Solutions store being in uptown. The issue is having it in a retail center that was supposed to be upscale.


They need to fill their spaces with good paying tenants who can make money themselves. If everyone was jumping all over themselves to locate there then they may have had even better choices.

I don't know about jumping but according to this article one year ago they were flocking to it....

Retailers flocking to The Rise at NW 23 and Walker in Oklahoma City | News OK (http://newsok.com/retailers-flocking-to-the-rise-at-nw-23-and-walker-in-oklahoma-city/article/3904447)

bchris02
10-24-2014, 03:20 PM
Cox Solutions seems like something you would recruit to simply lease a space when there are no better options. Almost like a fallback plan.

Pete
10-24-2014, 03:38 PM
The most disappointing thing is no rooftop bar, which was a key design feature and would have made a very cool scene combined with Gusto and Pump.

Considering the building is still not even close to being finished, you think they would have held out for a better use.

bchris02
10-24-2014, 03:39 PM
The most disappointing thing is no rooftop bar, which was a key design feature and would have made a very cool scene combined with Gusto and Pump.

Considering the building is still not even close to being finished, you think they would have held out for a better use.

I agree. We are probably looking at a Summer 2015 opening at the earliest. You would think they could have found better tenants by then. I was really looking forward to the rooftop bar.