I have been gaining some weight lately maybe Sam's Club is trying to help me cut out the junk food. I can still buy the same Cheese Cake Factory cheese cake at Target but it is 18 dollars instead of the 12 dollar price it was at Sam's Club and I am too scared to check the price at our Cheese Cake Factory restaurant seems like they wanted 6 dollars for one piece last time I was there and that was four years ago.

To sum it up, it's basically about how towns allow Walmart to come and build in their communities and THEN get pissed at Walmart for their smaller stores going out of business.

Walmart is a perfectly fine corporation and anyone that is mad at them is just looking for something to complain about.

Maybe the story didn't end there. Maybe the closed stores reopened and offered goods and services that Wal-Mart doesn't want to touch such as used merchandise, bars and repair shops. Doing that is surely one of the best ways a small store keeper can survive with Wal-Mart.

When did this thread become SAMs and Walmart?????

It says costco in active negotiations......


No disrespect but please move your discussion to another appropriate thread.

We are here to get updated on costco not what's wrong with SAMs and Walmart.

Thanks

Maybe the story didn't end there. Maybe the closed stores reopened and offered goods and services that Wal-Mart doesn't want to touch such as used merchandise, bars and repair shops. Doing that is surely one of the best ways a small store keeper can survive with Wal-Mart.Wouldn't doubt it. People can be smart if they choose and can adapt.

when did this thread become sams and walmart?????

It says costco in active negotiations......


No disrespect but please move your discussion to another appropriate thread.

We are here to get updated on costco not what's wrong with sams and walmart.

Thanks

thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This thread and the Sam's Club Layoffs thread have become an Anti Wal-Mart rant. I think a thread needs to be created under the Politics forum with all of these posts moved there. I'm tired of reading them. No offense to anyone, of course. I would much rather read about Costco's negotiations that are actually happening than the world boycotting Wal-Mart, and them going out of business which isn't happening.

That would be nice except it has nothing really to do with politics.

That would be nice except it has nothing really to do with politics.

The real benefit of that forum is that it keeps the annoying crap concentrated and out of the "What's New?" search. It's more of a "let's pretend this discussion isn't taking up space" forum than a politics forum.

"Tulsa, Oklahoma is a lock for May of 2015"

that was on the addicted to costco website

"Tulsa, Oklahoma is a lock for May of 2015"

that was on the addicted to costco website

Figures.

Hopefully OKC will get their Costco by then too.

"Tulsa, Oklahoma is a lock for May of 2015"

that was on the addicted to costco websiteWhat the hell is wrong with you people? Do you not understand, that is a fan website ran by fanboys? What credibility do they have? Seriously, Costco seems very secretive about their expansion plans and I firmly believe whoever keeps spewing the same crap about Costco coming to Tulsa is either trolling and we have the biggest Costco fan right here, in T town. I am not saying they won't go to Tulsa first, but for the love of god, these people have no clue what the hell they're talking about.

"Tulsa, Oklahoma is a lock for May of 2015"

that was on the addicted to costco website

It's possible but that was just something that someone posted in the area where people can make comments. It was certainly nothing official from the company.

That would be nice except it has nothing really to do with politics.

I'd say that talk about the country's economics, capitalism, wages, unions, and those for and against corporations IS politics. I'm sure if I searched this post for either Obama's fault or Bush's fault, I would find at least one! :cool:

Figures.

What do you mean? If this is true, great, they are one more step closer to coming to OKC. I swear, it seems like nothing in OKC is good enough for you, man. It gets old.

Figures.

Congrats for reaffirming your position as number one on my list of posters that make me want to punch something.

Its a fan based website...those people don't know any more then we do.

This was on the General Manager's report for the OKC Economic Development Trust, for the period of Oct. 1 through Dec. 31st, 2013:


Completed Study of the economic impacts of Costco Store to help formulate incentive strategy

Note: This organization works on projects within Oklahoma City limits.



Also, specifically mentions "Century Center CVS", although I am pretty darn sure that deal has since died.

Any word on costco

The latest rumor according to AddictedtoCostco.com is that the Tulsa location will be opening in May 2015. I would expect an OKC location, if it ends up happening, in 2016 or 2017 with that in mind. I think Costco is still a ways off from coming to this market. That's just my speculation though.

This makes me question. While OKC has made great strides in a lot of areas, retail is still one area where OKC is significantly lacking for a city its size. That applies to retail in every category from upscale down to the lack of decent grocery stores (still hard for me to get used to after two years here). I wonder what it would take for national retailers to see OKC as a more attractive market? Should there be some kind of incentive system to encourage national retailers to set up shop here?

OKC is perceived as strictly a value shopping city. Whole foods had to get an incentive to come here and has been pleasantly suprised. While not retail, OKC is by far the largest city in the country without an office for my own employer. The reason used to be The Daily Oklahoman's add rates. Now they say the widespread wealth demographic (as opposed to a concentrated area of wealth) is the culprit. I think a lot of firms still have this perception that people here dont value quality.

It way be true for those that are born in Oklahoma. Living in Edmond, by far the majority of people that I run into are from somewhere else. I cannot believe how many are from Chicago or the west coast. I'm seeing a lot of retirees moving here for the cost of living. I think they miss the shopping.

It way be true for those that are born in Oklahoma. Living in Edmond, by far the majority of people that I run into are from somewhere else. I cannot believe how many are from Chicago or the west coast. I'm seeing a lot of retirees moving here for the cost of living. I think they miss the shopping.

I can bet people who are transplants miss decent shopping, and I am not talking about strictly upscale stuff. OKC doesn't offer much more than Amarillo or Fort Smith, Arkansas when it comes to shopping. Its ridiculous. What can be done to change that? If retailers are hesitant to come to OKC because there is no single location that meets their "1-3-5 mi" criteria when it comes to concentrated wealth, is there a way the city can be proactive to lure retailers another way? Or is OKC simply screwed until the demographics change that are more favorable to the retailers' spreadsheet?

Wow it has been a month and nobody posted here.

Any news?

What the hell is wrong with you people? Do you not understand, that is a fan website ran by fanboys? What credibility do they have? Seriously, Costco seems very secretive about their expansion plans and I firmly believe whoever keeps spewing the same crap about Costco coming to Tulsa is either trolling and we have the biggest Costco fan right here, in T town. I am not saying they won't go to Tulsa first, but for the love of god, these people have no clue what the hell they're talking about.

Confirmed May 2015 opening for Costco at 103rd & Memorial (South Tulsa).

Costco will open south Tulsa location - Tulsa World: Local (http://m.tulsaworld.com/news/local/costco-will-open-south-tulsa-location/article_4c64f594-9690-5e4f-97bf-80f9a905bf92.html)

That's good news for OKC.

Confirmed May 2015 opening for Costco at 103rd & Memorial (South Tulsa).

Costco will open south Tulsa location - Tulsa World: Local (http://m.tulsaworld.com/news/local/costco-will-open-south-tulsa-location/article_4c64f594-9690-5e4f-97bf-80f9a905bf92.html)Good for Tulsa. Still a crappy city and when they open up an OKC location and our store outperforms the Tulsa store by 2-3 times, it will be interesting to see what is said; but that's awesome.

... Still a crappy city ...
I'm not a Tulsa resident, Tulsa fan nor Tulsa proponent, but I can say without reservation and without apology that it is no way a crappy city.

I'm not a Tulsa resident, Tulsa fan nor Tulsa proponent, but I can say without reservation and without apology that it is no way a crappy city.Ok. I think it is. I go there every other week and the place feels run down, void of life, and depressing. Anyhow, I'm not getting into this discussion again. Go to the Tulsa section and look at the new Gathering Place Park thread and you can see my opinions of Tulsa.

Costco coming to Tulsa is great for Tulsa and great for Oklahoma in general.

See, I told you so.

Look for an OKC location sometime betwen 2016 or 2017, as long as the Tulsa location does well.

See, I told you so.

Look for an OKC location in 2016 or 2017, as long as the Tulsa location does well.

It's been well documented they were going to Tulsa first.

And coming to OKC has absolutely nothing to do with waiting to see how the Tulsa location does.

There will be an announcement about an OKC location before the end of the year.

Good for Tulsa. Still a crappy city and when they open up an OKC location and our store outperforms the Tulsa store by 2-3 times, it will be interesting to see what is said; but that's awesome.

I am sure OKC residents will help support the Tulsa store like OKC pretty much supports Tulsa's concert and live music scene. It's not uncommon for people in OKC to take Tulsa daytrips and go shopping and this will give them extra reason to do so. Will be interesting to see if/when OKC gets a store if the sales numbers in Tulsa drop off.

I am sure OKC residents will help support the Tulsa store like OKC pretty much supports Tulsa's concert and live music scene. It's not uncommon for people in OKC to take Tulsa daytrips to go shopping and this will give them extra reason to do so.I won't be doing it lol.... wouldn't doubt it though.

I have a hard time grasping why someone would drive to Tulsa, yet anywhere 1.5 to 2 hours, for just Costco. Unless you live in a rural area

I have a hard time grasping why someone would drive to Tulsa, yet anywhere 1.5 to 2 hours, for just Costco. Unless you live in a rural area

A lot of transplants who loved Costco in other cities and are disappointed there isn't one here will make the drive. Many already drive to Dallas to go to Costco in this will make it much easier for them because now they only have to go 1.5 hours instead of 3.

I haven't driven to Tulsa to shop for over 10 years and certainly wouldn't drive there just to go to Costco. Their SAKS is mediocre and our local stores are better.

A lot of transplants who loved Costco in other cities and are disappointed there isn't one here will make the drive. Many already drive to Dallas to go to Costco in this will make it much easier for them because now they only have to go 1.5 hours instead of 3.

Do you have any facts supporting this? You've said it multiple times, but I have yet to find someone who actually does it.

A lot of transplants who loved Costco in other cities and are disappointed there isn't one here will make the drive. Many already drive to Dallas to go to Costco in this will make it much easier for them because now they only have to go 1.5 hours instead of 3.I've never heard of anyone going to Dallas for Costco. I do know of people who have driven to go to stores like Versace, Louis Vuitton, Gucci.... etc.

Ill add ikea to the list as well. But not a glorified Sams. And Yes I have been to plenty of costcos.

I don't doubt that there are at least a few people who drive down to Dallas specifically to go to Costco, but I cannot imagine that the number is statistically significant.

It has already been hashed numerous times but it's too bad you won't be able to buy wine and liquor in the Oklahoma stores, unless they are using some loophole. That's one of the best things about Costco. Other than that it's just a nicer Sam's Club.

Ill add ikea to the list as well. But not a glorified Sams. And Yes I have been to plenty of costcos.Yes.

It has already been hashed numerous times but it's too bad you won't be able to buy wine and liquor in the Oklahoma stores, unless they are using some loophole. That's one of the best things about Costco. Other than that it's just a nicer Sam's Club.Well, I just posted in another thread that an attorney running for judge in Tulsa is pro-legalization, so at least we are seeing a more progressive push in this this state. I think Costco will only help get more modern laws passed or at least puts pressure on our government.

I don't doubt that there are at least a few people who drive down to Dallas specifically to go to Costco, but I cannot imagine that the number is statistically significant.

Nordstrom/Dallas malls and IKEA probably get the most day trippers from Oklahoma. You should see both on OU/Texas weekend.

Anyhow, I'm not getting into this discussion again.

Then why post a comment slamming Tulsa? I love Tulsa. It's a great town with vibrant urban districts and a lot of character.

It's been well documented they were going to Tulsa first.

Many didn't want to believe it until it was announced.



There will be an announcement about an OKC location before the end of the year.

What do you make of the incentive program mentioned in the article? Here is the quote.


Tulsa's program would focus on what Bird called "destination" retailers —— stores that would potentially draw shoppers from as far as surrounding states —— and retailers that would be unique to Tulsa.
At the time, he named Costco and Cabela's as retailers the city would attempt to lure with the new program. He said stores such as Target would not be eligible because they are not unique to Tulsa.
A retail incentives committee made up of city staffers and a city councilor will judge whether rebate applicants meet the criteria.
Any incentive deal for Costco or any other companies considered in the future would need the approval of the mayor and council.
Under the policy, businesses generating $400,000 in city tax revenue in one year would get no more than $800,000 back over 10 years; those generating $1 million per year would get no more than $1.2 million over 4.8 years; and those generating $1.5 million or more per year would get a maximum of $2 million over 4.4 years.

If Costco (and Cabellas) built an OKC location, wouldn't that disqualify them from the program being that they have to be unique to Tulsa?

I can vouch that we used to make trips to Tulsa to visit Whole Foods. There were several people I knew who did the same.

Hopefully, one of these days, OKC will look better to the marketing knobs who study the spreadsheets. Hopefully our dramatic efforts to densify our urban core with quality housing and higher-income residents will pay off. Someday.

Then why post a comment slamming Tulsa? I love Tulsa. It's a great town with vibrant urban districts and a lot of character.Because I wanted to. It wasn't meant to start a new discussion about it, just a mere comment about BG918 quoting my post because we've sparred off before about the subject, so I wanted to reinforce it. I don't owe you any explanation and that is my opinion of the place. If you like Tulsa, awesome man. Hooray for you- I do not like it. End of discussion.

I can vouch that we used to make trips to Tulsa to visit Whole Foods. There were several people I knew who did the same.

Hopefully, one of these days, OKC will look better to the marketing knobs who study the spreadsheets. Hopefully our dramatic efforts to densify our urban core with quality housing and higher-income residents will pay off. Someday.I think we are beginning to hit a threshold where we will really start to appeal to major retailers. We need to get some areas with more concentrated wealth with no low income demographics.

I can vouch that we used to make trips to Tulsa to visit Whole Foods. There were several people I knew who did the same.

Hopefully, one of these days, OKC will look better to the marketing knobs who study the spreadsheets. Hopefully our dramatic efforts to densify our urban core with quality housing and higher-income residents will pay off. Someday.

Agree. OKC needs to really get on the ball when it comes to encouraging development of concentrated high income rooftops.

Agree. OKC needs to really get on the ball when it comes to encouraging development of concentrated high income rooftops. Otherwise, this city will always play second fiddle to Tulsa when it comes to being attractive to national retailers.

How many times have you said this and how many times have you been refuted?

Agree. OKC needs to really get on the ball when it comes to encouraging development of concentrated high income rooftops. Otherwise, this city will always play second fiddle to Tulsa when it comes to being attractive to national retailers.

You're going overboard here.

OMG it's the end of the world for OKC! Tulsa will have a Costco before Oklahoma City! Ermahgerd!!

-bchris02, apparently.

If Costco (and Cabellas) built an OKC location, wouldn't that disqualify them from the program being that they have to be unique to Tulsa?

It says unique to Tulsa, chief. Not unique to Oklahoma.

It says unique to Tulsa, chief. Not unique to Oklahoma.

Maybe this is just semantics, but if they build in OKC, then Costco wouldn't be unique TO Tulsa, which I think is bchris02's point. The main question to me is how far away from Tulsa can another Costco be built and the Tulsa store still be considered "unique to Tulsa." It sounds to me like the article is trying to draw big names away from Tulsa's suburbs and to Tulsa proper, which means this incentive wouldn't be affected by stores being built in OKC. That's how I read it, anyway.

Do you have any facts supporting this? You've said it multiple times, but I have yet to find someone who actually does it.

I go to Tulsa for a lot of concerts but that's about it. I would never drive to Tulsa to go grocery shopping , how damn dumb would someone have to be

I imagine they mean unique to Tulsa in that Tulsa doesn't already have it. It may apply to the metro area as well, but probably not.

Unique to Tulsa on the state level would mean Tulsa has the only one in the state.

Unique to Tulsa on the city level would mean there is only one store in Tulsa; or Tulsa proper has the only one in its metro.

I'm sure they mean the latter.

Bchris is a certified dbag, if he is anything like his posts. My goodness, you're greater than everyone else attitude is annoying.

Maybe this is just semantics, but if they build in OKC, then Costco wouldn't be unique TO Tulsa, which I think is bchris02's point. The main question to me is how far away from Tulsa can another Costco be built and the Tulsa store still be considered "unique to Tulsa." It sounds to me like the article is trying to draw big names away from Tulsa's suburbs and to Tulsa proper, which means this incentive wouldn't be affected by stores being built in OKC. That's how I read it, anyway.

Actually, if they build in OKC, it would still be unique to Tulsa. Tulsa and OKC are different cities and their borders are not even close. I'm not sure why this is hard to understand. If they meant it as being unique to Oklahoma, they would have said "unique to Oklahoma".

Confirmed May 2015 opening for Costco at 103rd & Memorial (South Tulsa).

Costco will open south Tulsa location - Tulsa World: Local (http://m.tulsaworld.com/news/local/costco-will-open-south-tulsa-location/article_4c64f594-9690-5e4f-97bf-80f9a905bf92.html)

Beat me to it....