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stile99
05-20-2019, 01:58 PM
Another area where Sam's is superior is its website. They list almost every single product and designate between those in the store, online or both.
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Agreed here. Costco's website is a huge area of potential. Right now it is NOT the website of a business trying to attract anyone looking for something.

boilerup35
05-20-2019, 02:32 PM
COSTCO starts its employees at $15 / hour with full benefits. This is the kind of business we should be supporting. Wal-Mart is a drain on society and taxpayers. I did foolishly decide to visit Saturday afternoon. It only took me about 10 minutes to find a spot to park. Waiting in line for a Costco card was a non-starter, however. Despite numerous lines, people were waiting quite a while.

I decided just to do a quick sweep of the store to get a feel for the merchandise. I found some things that immediately triggered buying impulses but I was protected by my lack of membership.

I will share some information from someone I know in management at this store: there are plans in the works to build at least two more Costco locations in the metro area. I would expect they will move quickly on this based on the sensational reaction to the market they received. People here are sick of Wal-Marts. Also, as our metro population has swelled with people from across the United States, these newcomers are accustomed to shopping at Costco and make a ready market.

I would imagine they will build one somewhere in the South OKC / Moore / Norman region and your guess is as good as mine on other locations. Perhaps the West OKC / Yukon area. My friend said he could imagine them building one closer to Downtown as well. "That will happen," he said. So that makes me think of Belle Isle or the area around Target on NW Expressway.

That'd be amazing to have one closer to downtown. There have been talks of developing the land NE of Lincoln and 50th, and Costco would be a great anchor. That could spark development all along the Lincoln corridor

Ward
05-20-2019, 03:14 PM
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Pete
05-20-2019, 03:23 PM
^

Awesome! Thank you.

Mike_M
05-20-2019, 04:18 PM
I have zero experience with Costco, but from what I can tell on this thread, Kirklands is the main reason to check it out. Pete was right when he said Member's Mark products are very hit-and-miss.

As far as everything else, Walmart has definitely closed the gap on customer experience. The Walmart in Mustang has the most pleasant, helpful workers I've probably ever seen. Even in other locations they've always taken the time to help me find something. It's true that Sams Club employees seem overworked and miserable, but I almost never need any help. You can look up exact product location online and self-checkout is seamless.

My wife is excited for Costco from a progress standpoint, but we likely won't get a membership until they build one closer.

Debzkidz
05-20-2019, 08:49 PM
We went Saturday afternoon. Glad we already had our membership purchased so we could walk right in. We really liked it, although after just one trip I can't say I prefer it over Sam's. The only real complaint we have is that they don't take Mastercard (except their own). Before we even went in the store, we stopped to fill up the car. We were in my husbands business vehicle, and when he tried to fill up using his business MC, we realized it wouldn't work. That for us will cause some inconvenience, since be make quite a few purchases at Sam's which are for his business, and it all goes on the business Mastercard.

emtefury
05-20-2019, 09:25 PM
I have zero experience with Costco, but from what I can tell on this thread, Kirklands is the main reason to check it out. Pete was right when he said Member's Mark products are very hit-and-miss.

As far as everything else, Walmart has definitely closed the gap on customer experience. The Walmart in Mustang has the most pleasant, helpful workers I've probably ever seen. Even in other locations they've always taken the time to help me find something. It's true that Sams Club employees seem overworked and miserable, but I almost never need any help. You can look up exact product location online and self-checkout is seamless.

My wife is excited for Costco from a progress standpoint, but we likely won't get a membership until they build one closer.

Keep it quiet on the Mustang Walmart. I don't want the word to get out about it.

Pete
05-21-2019, 12:20 PM
So, I went this morning about 10:30.

Happily, I had kept my old card and just renewed it online, so I breezed past the lines of people signing up.

They were absolutely checking cards at the entrance, something they say helps greatly reduce shrinkage. Not sure how it would work if you told the dude 'I just want to look around'.

After 25 years in SoCal and then moving back home to OKC about 2.5 years ago. I have purposely not gone back to visit in order to minimize any second-guessing and confusion and to focus on my future here. But I have to say I had a real moment of California homesickness as soon as I walked in. Was really odd and took me by surprise.

The OKC store has a layout that is quite different than the stores I used to shop, so that helped me get past the 'worlds colliding' experience.

I picked up a few things (like the coveted margarita mix) but I didn't have much in particular I was looking for, so I just wandered up and down almost every aisle looking for things I couldn't find at my stupidly accessible Sam's Club.

At least on this trip, I didn't find much. There was actually a shed on the floor I really liked and it was reasonable. I've been looking for a while and haven't found one at Sam's that suits my needs.

Approaching checkout I noticed only 4 lanes open out of maybe 20. Each line was about 3-5 carts deep and then I remembered something I strongly dislike about their checkout: Every other lane is flipped with the cart/people orientation which means while standing in line you are crammed in with the people at the next lane over.

And this was a problem in California. Always one or more fools taking way too much space, getting in your way, etc. Ugh. Why in a store the size of a small state do they insist on cramming people into a narrow gauntlet to complete your transaction? I learned a long time ago to go to the lane on the far end, regardless of length of line. And as it happened they moved everyone through quite quickly.

The Costco food court is another big point in their favor. As I was leaving around 11AM, no real line so I jumped up and had to try a new item, the pastor salad. It was $5 but big enough for 2 people and was really darn good, with lots of meat and it had nice flavor and even a little spice. I'm sure others have seen they have a chicken bake this is very popular and also a hot ham & provolone sandwich. And in taste tests, their dogs and Polish sausages always beat Sam's and so does their pizza. I always loved their berry smoothie as well.

Something I had not seen before was the food kiosk where you could place your order and pay and then only step up to the counter when your order was ready. That will come in handy.

So now leaving... I decided just to head east on the frontage road, south on Santa Fe and then east on 122nd to Broadway Extension. BUT, making the left onto 122nd the traffic was backed up through the signal! And this wasn't due to a train... It was people that were trying to make a right at the stop sign (put in a signal already!!) and onto the freeway.

I instead continued south on Santa Fe and immediately remembered it came to a dead-end. But -- and this must have been recent -- you can now cut over to the Broadway frontage road and head south to the Hefner road interchange.

Ah, my cherished Costco, it was nice to be back. I don't think I'll be visiting often but I'm so glad it is here.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/costco052119a.jpg


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OKC Guy
05-21-2019, 01:09 PM
How long was line to get a card and how fast does it move? Do they use picture cards or just names?

Pete
05-21-2019, 01:21 PM
How long was line to get a card and how fast does it move? Do they use picture cards or just names?

There were a bunch of people signing up at two different spots in the store. Not sure how long it took.

But yes, they take your photo and put it on the card.

OKC Guy
05-21-2019, 01:25 PM
There were a bunch of people signing up at two different spots in the store. Not sure how long it took.

But yes, they take your photo and put it on the card.

Thanks. No problem with taking pic just figured if no pic the process would be faster. I hate lines lol

d-usa
05-21-2019, 05:59 PM
We didn’t get photos on our cards.

Ward
05-21-2019, 06:05 PM
Fueled up this after noon. $2.14 and that’s Top Tier Gas.

Apparently I must look like an old feeble fart. One of the fuel attendants came up and asked if I wanted any help fueling. I think he was just bored, but he was super friendly and eager to help.

BBatesokc
05-21-2019, 08:36 PM
We didn’t get photos on our cards.

My wife signed us up at her work (more freebies that way). We got our cards in the mail, with no photos. No info about getting new cards with photos either.

rte66man
05-22-2019, 06:34 PM
I instead continued south on Santa Fe and immediately remembered it came to a dead-end. But -- and this must have been recent -- you can now cut over to the Broadway frontage road and head south to the Hefner road interchange.


Pete, I checked Google Earth and that connection has been there at least since the Broadway Extension expansion 20 years ago.

Pete
05-22-2019, 07:40 PM
Pete, I checked Google Earth and that connection has been there at least since the Broadway Extension expansion 20 years ago.

Interesting -- thanks for the research.

That is going to be my preferred route from now on.

no1cub17
05-22-2019, 07:45 PM
How long was line to get a card and how fast does it move? Do they use picture cards or just names?

You can register and pay online. Then when you get to the store you can tell the folks manning the entry that you've already paid and just need to pick up your card. They'll direct you to the customer service desk (same place you return items). You will save a TON of time this way.

OKC Guy
05-22-2019, 08:06 PM
You can register and pay online. Then when you get to the store you can tell the folks manning the entry that you've already paid and just need to pick up your card. They'll direct you to the customer service desk (same place you return items). You will save a TON of time this way.

Thank you!!!

ChargerAg
05-22-2019, 10:31 PM
I was there last weekend and asked if I could look around before i bought a membership. I was told it wasn't allowed. I ended up leaving as the signup line looked to be a 30 minute wait and I had somewhere I had to be.

Pete
05-23-2019, 03:49 AM
BTW, I mentioned the Al Pastor salad at the food court...

It's vegan. The protein is actually soy and is very good and tasty.

And I didn't realize they still have hot dogs but no longer carry Polish sausage.

catch22
05-23-2019, 01:04 PM
I refuse to use self checkout. I am not an employee of the store and I am certainly not receiving a discount to do work for them.

If my basket is full and there are no open lanes other than self check or there are long lines I will leave my cart where it is and leave the store. I do no favors for corporate America. Our corporate overlords rob us for everything anyway, I will not make it any easier on them.

Ward
05-23-2019, 01:23 PM
I was there last weekend and asked if I could look around before i bought a membership. I was told it wasn't allowed. I ended up leaving as the signup line looked to be a 30 minute wait and I had somewhere I had to be.

You don’t have to be a member to use the Costco pharmacy. Costco WILL allow you in, tell the door people you want to go to the pharmacy to see about a personal needs. Go to the pharmacy. Look around at the OTC stuff. Feel free to say hi to the pharmacy staff. Get distracted by other things and wander around. Go to the rest room. Use the food court. Then, if you wish, go buy a membership.

No need to lie, just tell them you want to go to the pharmacy. Then go to the pharmacy.

However, I do recommend their pharmacy. If you are a cash customer, no insurance, you won’t find a better price anywhere than Costco pharmacy.

OKC Guy
05-23-2019, 01:26 PM
I refuse to use self checkout. I am not an employee of the store and I am certainly not receiving a discount to do work for them.

If my basket is full and there are no open lanes other than self check or there are long lines I will leave my cart where it is and leave the store. I do no favors for corporate America. Our corporate overlords rob us for everything anyway, I will not make it any easier on them.

Totally agree, they give me no money to do cashier job they just keep all the profits frim those they got rid of.

Self checkout is another step in having less human interaction, which we as humans need. One thing I miss from other countries is bartering for products even if neither speaks others language. A simple calculator passed back and forth and reading body language was all I needed. I really enjoyed that aspect of buying.

Costco seems more tuned in to customer service than WM/Sams. I already let my Sams expire in Mar and will be getting my Costco this weekend.

cbing04
05-23-2019, 01:43 PM
I have been going to Costco for many years prior to moving to OKC. I am very disappointed with this version of Costco however. Due to Oklahoma's archaic liquor laws you are unable to purchase any spirits at this Costco location, which is one of the best things about Costco because they are always the cheapest. Go figure, only in Oklahoma you can go buy a pound of pot, but god forbid you can buy some cheap spirits. Another horrible reason this Costco sucks is because of the piss poor planning. Anyone trying to get on the turnpike going west are screwed. Traffic is awful and the good old Oklahoma city planners failed again. Only one more year and I can leave this dump!

no1cub17
05-23-2019, 01:47 PM
Thank you!!!

No problem. Just happened to check if this was an option before we went and I'm glad we did. The wait to sign up even on a Wednesday morning had to be at least 30-45 minutes.

The kind associate who printed our cards said that they're so busy right now that they're not taking pictures, they just give you your card with your name on it (but no picture ID). She said they would start doing this if it slows down in the next month or two.

sacolton
05-23-2019, 01:53 PM
Which full-service gas station do you guys use? God forbid I would have to pump my own gas.

stile99
05-23-2019, 01:56 PM
[QUOTE=cbing04;1076525 Another horrible reason this Costco sucks is because of the piss poor planning. Anyone trying to get on the turnpike going west are screwed. Traffic is awful and the good old Oklahoma city planners failed again. Only one more year and I can leave this dump![/QUOTE]

If they seriously can't figure it out, they probably shouldn't be driving.

Pete
05-23-2019, 01:59 PM
Yeah, I don't understand the 'support employees by not using auto checkout'.

Should we not use ATM's? Never buy anything online? Not use machines for any job that a human used to perform??

The history of the industrial revolution and great innovation in this country means trading menial jobs for those that come from producing innovation and creating efficiencies and it's directly related to our incredibly high standard of living, which has improved dramatically in the digital age.

Thomas Vu
05-23-2019, 02:05 PM
If my basket is full and there are no open lanes other than self check or there are long lines I will leave my cart where it is and leave the store. I do no favors for corporate America. Our corporate overlords rob us for everything anyway, I will not make it any easier on them.

and apparently have little/no regard for certain people either. Creating extra work, I'd at least put my stuff back.

jn1780
05-23-2019, 02:05 PM
Main idea for self checkouts are its faster for the customer when their are fewer items to scan. Employees are still better when your dealing with a lot of groceries. I like how Crest has a good mixture of both.

OKC Guy
05-23-2019, 02:32 PM
Yeah, I don't understand the 'support employees by not using auto checkout'.

Should we not use ATM's? Never buy anything online? Not use machines for any job that a human used to perform??

The history of the industrial revolution and great innovation in this country means trading menial jobs for those that come from producing innovation and creating efficiencies and it's directly related to our incredibly high standard of living, which has improved dramatically in the digital age.

I think a good balance can be found. There needs to always be entry level jobs but those are getting fewer and fewer. Crest has a good model by adding them as convenience. WM/Sams adds them solely to eliminate jobs.

ATMs were also added as a convenience not solely designed to cut jobs. They may have cut some jobs but I can still go into TFCU and get full service without a wait. WM/Sams us disgusting what they have done and their reputations are bad from the result.

There will always be examples where it works too, but I like Costco/Crest models where they still value me the person who keeps coming back. I used Costco when I lived in Cali and missed them for many reasons. Glad to see they still value a cash paying customer.

OKC Guy
05-23-2019, 02:37 PM
and apparently have little/no regard for certain people either. Creating extra work, I'd at least put my stuff back.


I find this ironic in a weird way. You have a store who places little value in the person who is buying their goods and causes the customer more work. Yet when its reversed and the customer causes store more work you get upset. I hope you can see there are 2 sides to the situation.

But one side is paying money for goods and services while the other is not paying that same person. When I grew up I learned the business is suposed to cater to customer not other way around.

Food for thought.

Good thing is Costco has better service than most!

OKC Guy
05-23-2019, 02:41 PM
I have been going to Costco for many years prior to moving to OKC. I am very disappointed with this version of Costco however. Due to Oklahoma's archaic liquor laws you are unable to purchase any spirits at this Costco location, which is one of the best things about Costco because they are always the cheapest. Go figure, only in Oklahoma you can go buy a pound of pot, but god forbid you can buy some cheap spirits. Another horrible reason this Costco sucks is because of the piss poor planning. Anyone trying to get on the turnpike going west are screwed. Traffic is awful and the good old Oklahoma city planners failed again. Only one more year and I can leave this dump!

How is any one thing you said the fault of Costco? Your post belongs in the things wring with city/state government or transportation. Not one thing was the fault of Costco.

If you don’t mind where are you moving too?

d-usa
05-23-2019, 03:10 PM
I find this ironic in a weird way. You have a store who places little value in the person who is buying their goods and causes the customer more work. Yet when its reversed and the customer causes store more work you get upset. I hope you can see there are 2 sides to the situation.

But one side is paying money for goods and services while the other is not paying that same person. When I grew up I learned the business is suposed to cater to customer not other way around.

Food for thought.

Good thing is Costco has better service than most!

Maybe the person putting your crap back from where your sense of entitlement left it would have time to run a register instead?

There are enough food insecure people in this city that causing food to be thrown away because you’re pissed at some faceless corporation just irks me.

OKC Guy
05-23-2019, 03:28 PM
Maybe the person putting your crap back from where your sense of entitlement left it would have time to run a register instead?

There are enough food insecure people in this city that causing food to be thrown away because you’re pissed at some faceless corporation just irks me.

I think you should look up customer service vs entitlement there is a distinct difference. Your argument is backwards, if they had more checkers the sale happens and groceries walk out the door and never have to be put back. The backroom guy is never bothered because “the store factored in service and hired more checkers”. I hope you can see how foolish your comeback was. Either way we have worn out the topic. Since this is Costco thread I am happy to note Costco cares about service compared go Sams/WM. Thats a good thing not a bad one. You are entitled to your opinion though

Pete
05-23-2019, 03:38 PM
ATMs were also added as a convenience not solely designed to cut jobs. They may have cut some jobs but I can still go into TFCU and get full service without a wait. WM/Sams us disgusting what they have done and their reputations are bad from the result.

Did you ever go into a bank before ATM's? They employed 3x as many tellers -- maybe more.

I was an executive at a bank and trust me, the #1 goal was to stop people from coming into the branch as much as possible. I guarantee you ATM's have cost thousands of more jobs to be lost than auto checkout.

And how is auto checkout not also a convenience?


If people prefer traditional checkout that is completely fine and almost every place still offers that option. But attempting to compel others to do the same in support of jobs is highly dubious. Every single industry has used automation extensively and there have been tons of high-paying jobs created as a result.

Thomas Vu
05-23-2019, 03:44 PM
Maybe worth noting, Sams/walmart offer both as well.


I find this ironic in a weird way. You have a store who places little value in the person who is buying their goods and causes the customer more work. Yet when its reversed and the customer causes store more work you get upset. I hope you can see there are 2 sides to the situation.

But one side is paying money for goods and services while the other is not paying that same person. When I grew up I learned the business is suposed to cater to customer not other way around.

Food for thought.

Good thing is Costco has better service than most!

I can see that there are two sides. I still don't agree with you.
If all the employees are currently getting slammed by customers trying to purchase goods and leave, and then all of a sudden somebody leaves a mix of perishable goods I'd be ticked.
"Oh, you're currently really busy? Let me add unnecessary work to your load, you're minimum wage anyway"

Mballard85
05-23-2019, 03:49 PM
I have been going to Costco for many years prior to moving to OKC. I am very disappointed with this version of Costco however. Due to Oklahoma's archaic liquor laws you are unable to purchase any spirits at this Costco location, which is one of the best things about Costco because they are always the cheapest. Go figure, only in Oklahoma you can go buy a pound of pot, but god forbid you can buy some cheap spirits. Another horrible reason this Costco sucks is because of the piss poor planning. Anyone trying to get on the turnpike going west are screwed. Traffic is awful and the good old Oklahoma city planners failed again. Only one more year and I can leave this dump!

Well this was fun.

d-usa
05-23-2019, 03:49 PM
I think you should look up customer service vs entitlement there is a distinct difference. Your argument is backwards, if they had more checkers the sale happens and groceries walk out the door and never have to be put back. The backroom guy is never bothered because “the store factored in service and hired more checkers”. I hope you can see how foolish your comeback was. Either way we have worn out the topic. Since this is Costco thread I am happy to note Costco cares about service compared go Sams/WM. Thats a good thing not a bad one. You are entitled to your opinion though

You make her choice to leave your stuff.

Not the company, not the store, not the staff.

Own your waste, or stop wasting it.

BBatesokc
05-23-2019, 04:23 PM
I refuse to use self checkout. I am not an employee of the store and I am certainly not receiving a discount to do work for them.

If my basket is full and there are no open lanes other than self check or there are long lines I will leave my cart where it is and leave the store.....



I couldn't help but read that comment in Eric Cartman's voice - followed by "Attention Costsco customers, Thurston Howell III and Lovey have left the building."


Do you scoff at the Scan and Go app too? I mean, you're not paid to actually hold your phone over a barcode either.

d-usa
05-23-2019, 04:52 PM
I really don’t want to come across as defending companies that understaff their stores. I’m just not OK with people crapping on staff members that have zero say about the policies that are in effect. If you don’t like a policy, don’t shop there. If you notice a crappy policy, don’t go back. But don’t **** on the staff that’s there by abandoning a cart full of merchandise and groceries because you decided that you weren’t OK with the same situation that existed when you walked into a store 30 minutes earlier. People usually know they work for a **** company, don’t make it worse by also being a crappy customer.

catch22
05-23-2019, 04:59 PM
The ATM argument is not valid, as the machine is literally doing the work of a teller.

The self check is not automated, you are picking up the items, scanning them, and bagging them. There’s no automation, you are literally performing the work. It would be a similar argument if you rolled your cart up and a robotic arm came out and scanned and bagged all of your items. That is different.

catch22
05-23-2019, 05:01 PM
I really don’t want to come across as defending companies that understaff their stores. I’m just not OK with people crapping on staff members that have zero say about the policies that are in effect. If you don’t like a policy, don’t shop there. If you notice a crappy policy, don’t go back. But don’t **** on the staff that’s there by abandoning a cart full of merchandise and groceries because you decided that you weren’t OK with the same situation that existed when you walked into a store 30 minutes earlier. People usually know they work for a **** company, don’t make it worse by also being a crappy customer.

I don’t support stores that have bad service. I shop at a union store, and have excellent service. The employees unload the cart for me and load it again. Prices are slightly higher but I’m happy to support union labor and good workers.

stile99
05-23-2019, 05:23 PM
The ATM argument is not valid, as the machine is literally doing the work of a teller.

The self check is not automated, you are picking up the items, scanning them, and bagging them. There’s no automation, you are literally performing the work. It would be a similar argument if you rolled your cart up and a robotic arm came out and scanned and bagged all of your items. That is different.

I'm curious. How many tears do you shed for the former elevator operator when you use an elevator?

chuck5815
05-23-2019, 05:33 PM
The ATM argument is not valid, as the machine is literally doing the work of a teller.

The self check is not automated, you are picking up the items, scanning them, and bagging them. There’s no automation, you are literally performing the work. It would be a similar argument if you rolled your cart up and a robotic arm came out and scanned and bagged all of your items. That is different.

jfc yea. you should definitely get paid by the store for using the self check out instead of the cashier option.

stile99
05-23-2019, 05:38 PM
jfc yea. you should definitely get paid by the store for using the self check out instead of the cashier option.

Some people see not standing in line for 30 minutes for just an item or two as exactly this.

OKC Guy
05-23-2019, 06:16 PM
Did you ever go into a bank before ATM's? They employed 3x as many tellers -- maybe more.

I was an executive at a bank and trust me, the #1 goal was to stop people from coming into the branch as much as possible. I guarantee you ATM's have cost thousands of more jobs to be lost than auto checkout.

And how is auto checkout not also a convenience?


If people prefer traditional checkout that is completely fine and almost every place still offers that option. But attempting to compel others to do the same in support of jobs is highly dubious. Every single industry has used automation extensively and there have been tons of high-paying jobs created as a result.

What keeps getting lost in this discussion is the difference between stores offering self check as a service and those intentionally understaffing checkers to force people to self check out.

The WM/Sams model is bad and they force people to use self check or stand in long lines. Thats where my problem comes in. They got rid of staff and service went down and 9 of 10 people will tell you the same thing about their opinion of WM/Sams.

On the flip side Crest and Costco have added some self check as a service for those who want to use it but still staff checkout lines.

Go into any WM and you see 20 checkout lines with only 2/3 open and long lines. I rarely go there and when I do I remember why I don’t go there. I had Sams because it was only game in town, and I hated it.

All our young workers can’t all have a high paying job and those entry level checker jobs are great experience.

My other point is as a society we rarely talk to anyone and its nice to converse with checkers. I think it just makes a better experience from a service level. Look at Crest they are always busy yet never let lines get more than 2 deep. And it pays off no matter how busy it looks you know you can get out quickly and have a nice short chat with the checker and bagger.

Thats all I’m saying

jerrywall
05-24-2019, 08:36 AM
^^ This.

I go into Crest usually a few times a week to pick up a single item or two on the way home. For those times, I grab the self checkout. In and out. But on Saturdays when we do our big weekly trip, I hit a staffed checkout. Much easier. And Crest always has tons of regular lanes open.

I go to Home Depot however, and they typically don't have a staffed checkout lane open, besides the single commercial checkout. It's all (forced) self checkout. I hate it when companies do this.

Scan and go is a great option though.

jn1780
05-24-2019, 08:57 AM
What about grocery store pickup? I haven't noticed anyone mentioning that. That takes employee resources to grab people's things off the shelves. Those are employees that could be working a checkout line. Maybe its time to adapt and start using that service?

Eventually, Amazon is going to figure out how to do grocery delivery more efficiently also.

Pete
05-24-2019, 09:05 AM
Eventually, Amazon is going to figure out how to do grocery delivery more efficiently also.

They have already been testing stores with no checkout at all.

Where you just grab what you want and walk out:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/12/05/amazon-go-supermarket-no-checkout-no-cashiers-artificial-intelligence-sensors/94991612/

no1cub17
05-24-2019, 10:04 AM
I don’t support stores that have bad service. I shop at a union store, and have excellent service. The employees unload the cart for me and load it again. Prices are slightly higher but I’m happy to support union labor and good workers.

You work for an airline right? Does the airline you work for have self check-in kiosks? Does your airline offer "self-tagging" for checked bags? Does your airline offer an app that you can use to scan your boarding pass at the gate? What's the difference between this and Costco? Check-in kiosks have drastically reduced the number of actual agents that are needed. It's crazy that even during peak times there are only 1-2 agents at the AA counter. So when you fly, do you refuse to check in yourself or tag your own bag? After all, isn't that literally the agent's job to print my boarding pass and tag my checked bag?

Not to mention that many airports internationally have unmanned boarding gates too. Last time we flew through Singapore you scanned your own BP, then they verified your identity via a face scan, which opened the gate. So would you refuse to use such a boarding gate next time you're abroad?

Soonerinfiniti
05-24-2019, 11:47 AM
Finally made it to Costco last night. Long line for memberships, but it moved quickly. Good wine selection - Chateaux Margot for $599! Checkout also moved quickly. Loved gas at $2.14/gallon!

Pete
05-24-2019, 11:50 AM
Sam's at Memorial and Penn have matched that $2.14 gas price.

Looking at Gusbuddy.com, those two prices are much lower than anywhere else in OKC:

https://www.gasbuddy.com/GasPrices/Oklahoma/Oklahoma%20City


Viva competition!

turnpup
05-24-2019, 12:47 PM
Crud. I just filled up at OnCue this morning.

jn1780
05-24-2019, 01:00 PM
Maybe its time for me to be ok with 10% ethanol?

FighttheGoodFight
05-24-2019, 01:26 PM
I was about to ask, is it 10% ethanol and do they Premium at each pump?

soonermike81
05-24-2019, 02:00 PM
If my basket is full and there are no open lanes other than self check or there are long lines I will leave my cart where it is and leave the store. I do no favors for corporate America. Our corporate overlords rob us for everything anyway, I will not make it any easier on them.

I really hope someone slaps the sh*t out of you the next time you do this. It’s a real d*ckhead move.

Mike_M
05-24-2019, 02:55 PM
I refuse to use self checkout. I am not an employee of the store and I am certainly not receiving a discount to do work for them.

If my basket is full and there are no open lanes other than self check or there are long lines I will leave my cart where it is and leave the store. I do no favors for corporate America. Our corporate overlords rob us for everything anyway, I will not make it any easier on them.

This is as flawed logic as I've ever read in my life. This is absolutely no way affects the "corporate overlords" in the slightest. What you are doing is actually creating unneccessary overhead costs for the local store by forcing employees to engage in the zero value task of putting your items back, or even worse throwing it out if it's perishable and they can't verify how long it's been out.

Mike_M
05-24-2019, 03:00 PM
But one side is paying money for goods and services while the other is not paying that same person.


The other side is providing the goods and services that are being paid for. That's how this works.

Mike_M
05-24-2019, 03:43 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I just don't care for shopping at all. I 100% welcome the day that grocery and home shopping is no longer a part of my week, and most everyone that I know feels the same way. Parents especially could not be happier about doing grocery shopping without leaving their car. Several of my friends now only shop for clothes online. Multiple days and/or evenings that I would've lost for shopping are now freed up to do things I actually value.

The success of Amazon, Grub Hub, Uber Eats, grocery pickup, and the like means that a growing number of people don't care for the in-person shopping experience. While some of you may lament for the cashiers of the world, it is just not an essential service in today's world.