The whole thing is still very sad. Several lives ruined because some kids were bored and didn't seem to have any understanding of right and wrong.

The “gun culture” didn’t kill Chris Lane, but the rap and gang culture may have played a prominent role.
The PJ Tatler » Were Chris Lane?s Teenage Killers Really ?Bored?? (Warning: Strong Language) (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/08/20/were-chris-lanes-teenage-killers-really-bored-warning-strong-language/)

I wonder what law all the people trying to turn this into a gun control debate think would have stopped this. A 22 revolver wouldn't have been covered by any of the high-capacity clip and assault weapons bans proposed after Sandy Hook. Only a complete, unconstitutional ban would have made that gun illegal. The truth is we have a culture that glorifies violence and many parents not doing their jobs in teaching their children right from wrong.

Lots of strong opinions here for folks who know next to nothing about the case...

Ever been through Duncan, OK?
It ain't Compton or Watts or anywhere else in Gansta'cRapland so I can see how it would easy to get bored.
Even if you are just imagining or pretending to be bored.


Yes, I have. Duncan is a nicer than usual Oklahoma from being less run down looking than the average Oklahoma town. But you can also get bored to death living in Oklahoma City from not having the money to enjoy the numerous attractions not found in small towns. Imagine how much it would cost a family to go to Frontier City.

The whole thing is still very sad. Several lives ruined because some kids were bored and didn't seem to have any understanding of right and wrong.

Maybe it's less boring in prison. If so, prison life is too easy.

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I wonder what law all the people trying to turn this into a gun control debate think would have stopped this. A 22 revolver wouldn't have been covered by any of the high-capacity clip and assault weapons bans proposed after Sandy Hook. Only a complete, unconstitutional ban would have made that gun illegal. The truth is we have a culture that glorifies violence and many parents not doing their jobs in teaching their children right from wrong.

This further gets to the very heart of the much (not all) of the thug problem in our society.

Can a society which lies to itself about its most basic problems survive?
The American Spectator : The Oklahoma Story (http://spectator.org/archives/2013/08/21/the-oklahoma-story)

This further gets to the very heart of the much (not all) of the thug problem in our society.

Can a society which lies to itself about its most basic problems survive?
The American Spectator : The Oklahoma Story (http://spectator.org/archives/2013/08/21/the-oklahoma-story)

That article sir was spot on.

Where is the outrage form J. Jackson, Sharpton, and the NAACP over this? Oh wait, the guy murdered was white and murdered by primarily black guys. Never mind.


No outrage since killers are arrested and will face juctice.

That article sir was spot on.

It was spot on about this particular situation but it can't be applied to all senseless killings - and there have been way too many of these lately. People pat themselves on the back because they think they raised their kids better than these three were raised. In the meantime, we read about people who die because some idiot owns guns that aren't secured from children or people like the young man in Newtown. The situation yesterday in Georgia appears to be another instance of a mentally unstable person getting his hands on a gun that shouldn't have been available to him. I have no interest in repealing the 2nd amendment, but if you are going to own guns, keep them locked up.

That article sir was spot on.

If you completely ignore the department of justice that reports white on white murders at 88%.

Or if you ignore that 50% of the participants of this murder...were white.

Then yes, as the articles states, black thug culture is taking over america and you bettsss be fraid....


But then again, you cant really expect critical thinking of the audience who reads this stuff. They are incapable of it.

This is about three, easily "bored" post-Millennial punks who committed a social atrocity.
It ain't about "race" . . . Other than "human".
These biological anomolies burned their membership cards, to the larger group (i.e. human beings), when they executed their plan to overcome "boredom."

Release the hounds, I say! . . . or send them to prison and let them get "loved" to death.
It doesn't matter. I simply hope it takes less time for justice to be done in this case than it did for Roger Dale Stafford.
Or we could deport them to Australia where they have Golf Ball Spiders and Exceptionally Effective Jellyfish, not to mention some Easily Outraged Outbackers.

That, or grant a temporary non-injunction allowing a Sharia Court to pass judgment . . .

The crime here transcends race, creed or color.
It is below even the lowest common denominator of human behavior and should be dealt with as expeditiously as possible.
Our president could prove his mettle by personally moving the lever that opens the trapdoors on the gallows. That, or by signing the papers required to exile the lads to Australia to face justice for senselessly murdering one of their own.

(p.s.: i haven't read the above linked and liked article and, frankly, i don't care whether it agrees with me or not. and vice-versa =)

I feel bad for the Parents of the Aussie lad. Travels halfway around the world with a bright future just to end up like this.

Pretty much my point.
The level of sub-human, American media-fueled, teen-crime abomination in this case deserves a swift resolution.

(i try to sublimate my OUTRAGE over this type of [idiocy] this way. thank you for understanding.
one afternoon, a long time ago, while waiting to cash my payroll check at a neighborhood grocery store in a "black/bad" part of town, i stood in line behind the young son of one of the victims of Roger Dale Stafford at the Sirloin Stockade, as he, the lad in front of me in line was cashing some sort of relief check written to his dad. for the next twenty or so years i watched as the perpetrator got fat in prison sucking off the legal system teat paid for by the rest of us. again: i apologize for my outrage at this crime.)

To ease the "liberal" conscience just think of it as an extra late-term abortion if you want to.
That could make all of it more palatable.

Thing's we'll never hear Barack Obama say........."Chris Lane could have been my son."

I get sick to watch the video of the two of the accused thug wanna be's flashing their gang signs and trying to foolishly display that their life matters. And yet they randomly shoot a innocent man and by doing so said his life didn't matter. I hope every gang-banger media promoter who glorifies this type of no-class, no respect of life individuals finds nothing but never ending regret for a culture they helped to create.

If you completely ignore the department of justice that reports white on white murders at 88%.

Or if you ignore that 50% of the participants of this murder...were white.

Then yes, as the articles states, black thug culture is taking over america and you bettsss be fraid....



But then again, you cant really expect critical thinking of the audience who reads this stuff. They are incapable of it.


Well the black thug culture as you call it does contribute so many positive things to society dosnt it....
And don't make me pull out my 8% of the population commits between 40-50% of all violent crimes in the United States card.
Statistics don't lie.............

Where is the outrage form J. Jackson, Sharpton, and the NAACP over this? Oh wait, the guy murdered was white and murdered by primarily black guys. Never mind.

Settle down. Jesse and Al are all out of outrage right now. They used it all up when that minority was acquitted of killing that other minority in Florida. I promise they'll be back with more outrage shortly.

Settle down. Jesse and Al are all out of outrage right now. They used it all up when that minority was acquitted of killing that other minority in Florida. I promise they'll be back with more outrage shortly.

Im quite positive there is another Tawana Brawley somewhere on the horizon.

Why are so many articles listing discrepancies in the races of the alleged shooters? Some say three black teens, others say one white and two black and still others say one white, one black and one Hispanic. I don't have a race agenda, but I'd like to know the facts.

Why are so many articles listing discrepancies in the races of the alleged shooters? Some say three black teens, others say one white and two black and still others say one white, one black and one Hispanic. I don't have a race agenda, but I'd like to know the facts.

One white two black and all three were "aspiring rappers".

Why are so many articles listing discrepancies in the races of the alleged shooters? .

I've tried to figure that out myself. I just dont get where we all say, o race doesnt matter, it isnt about skin color. Then any time a tragedy happens focus turns to how dark a persons skin was and if they are a different religion than 'us'.

I've said it before - but when are morale and law abiding people going to start standing up for other morale and law abiding people. When you start splintering into fractions nothing gets accomplished and the entire conversation (just look at this thread) are wasted.

I personally think the problem is welfare / food stamps. I've spent a considerable amount of time in small oklahoman towns and it doesnt take long to figure out that there are a very small handful of wealthy people and the rest are dependent on the government. 39% of blacks, and 38% of whites are on government handouts. So nearly half of the population sits around with idle time on their hands watching the day go by. The worst thing is it becomes completely generational and learned behavior; and i say this with family living in SE oklahoma who are doing this very thing right now. Look at whats happening with china, population is booming in their cities because younger generations are moving off farmland to WORK. Because unless you want to live in a dirt floor hut with no electricity, you have to actually do something with your time. While a person in oklahoma can get on the government dole, get a small house in a small town, have food each month, have satellite tv, have air conditioning, and generally a leisure filled life just for being born in this country.

I'm thinking their excuse for having fun was a cover for their apparent racism. This is a racially motivated murder.
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It comes as Edwards, who has been charged with first-degree murder, posted racist tweets saying he hated white people in the months before the shooting.

Edwards posted statements on his Twitter feed including a comment on April 29 where he tweeted "90% of white ppl are nasty. #HATE THEM".

Edwards also weighed when George Zimmerman was acquitted over the death of Trayvon Martin.

"Ayeee I knocced out 5 woods since Zimmerman court!:) lol sh*t ima keep sleepin sh*t! #ayeeee."

O'Reilly sums it up pretty well. Bill O'Reilly: Video Center - Talking Points Memos - Talking Points 8/21 (http://www.billoreilly.com/video?chartID=556&vid=-130611728431240722)

Young people are not all mental giants.
Never have been. Not likely to change.

Some are downright stupid. Some are downright mean.

Some are both stupid and mean.

And some of them are armed, with one weapon or another.

That senseless violence erupts is not a surprise.
That it erupts as infrequently as it does is the surprise.

Peach, pink, sunflower, coffee, taupe, cream, ivory, blue, green or purpleslurple, pigmentation is merely one attribute of a violent person, not the attribute.

This death would be no less senseless and sad had the defendants been bored, small town, hero jocks of [insert any classification here] ancestry.

O'Reilly sums it up pretty well. Bill O'Reilly: Video Center - Talking Points Memos - Talking Points 8/21 (http://www.billoreilly.com/video?chartID=556&vid=-130611728431240722)


I agree..... we have a problem with our culture glorifying gangs and their violence.
We need to stop patronizing those who glorify it for monetary gain and that's where each individual can take a personal stand.

I agree..... we have a problem with our culture glorifying gangs and their violence.
We need to stop patronizing those who glorify it for monetary gain and that's where each individual can take a personal stand.

I agree with this. But I also think that we are very selective in our outrage. Each time when its a black shooting its thug culture, each time its a white shooting its video game violence, each time its a....

When do we step back and say the problem with people shooting other people is unrestricted access to weapons - and the entire American culture that glorifies weapons?


White, black, brown or yellow...everything in our culture(movies, tv shows, music, politicians) glorifies weapons, refusal to compromise, and a short temper.

I must say I am not shocked that no 'race' wants to claim these 3. Personally, I see that as a good sign that no one wants to be associated with this kind of activity within their ranks. I wish there was a way for Oklahoma to disown them. Any chance they recently moved to Duncan from Texas or California?

I agree with this. But I also think that we are very selective in our outrage. Each time when its a black shooting its thug culture, each time its a white shooting its video game violence, each time its a....

When do we step back and say the problem with people shooting other people is unrestricted access to weapons?We can, and do, say that all the time. The problem is that any and every thing CAN be a weapon. If guns are prohibited, knives will do. Prohibit those, and clubs will work. Eliminate them, and any handy rock will suffice. Get rid of all possible objects, and the human hand is still available for use in violence.

Rather than do away with all possible tools, we need to get at the root cause -- which is the fact that we humans are predators, and some of our favorite prey are other humans. Like perfection, total elimination of violence is impossible to achieve -- but we can and should reduce its importance to our culture. If we don't, it will destroy us; it seems to be well on its way, already.

We could begin by boycotting movies and TV shows that glorify it, such as the James Bond franchise. We could quit patronizing advertisers who support such things by product placement or outright sponsorship. If violence ceased to be profitable, its impact on our culture would quickly diminish. But of course I'm dreaming; these things, also, are probably impossible...

Amen Jim - I stopped watching violent movies a long time ago. I don't know why watching violence is consider entertainment by anyone. The 'bored teenager' also plays a big role in my support of New Urbanism.

I've tried to figure that out myself. I just dont get where we all say, o race doesnt matter, it isnt about skin color. Then any time a tragedy happens focus turns to how dark a persons skin was and if they are a different religion than 'us'.

I've said it before - but when are morale and law abiding people going to start standing up for other morale and law abiding people. When you start splintering into fractions nothing gets accomplished and the entire conversation (just look at this thread) are wasted.

I personally think the problem is welfare / food stamps. I've spent a considerable amount of time in small oklahoman towns and it doesnt take long to figure out that there are a very small handful of wealthy people and the rest are dependent on the government. 39% of blacks, and 38% of whites are on government handouts. So nearly half of the population sits around with idle time on their hands watching the day go by. The worst thing is it becomes completely generational and learned behavior; and i say this with family living in SE oklahoma who are doing this very thing right now. Look at whats happening with china, population is booming in their cities because younger generations are moving off farmland to WORK. Because unless you want to live in a dirt floor hut with no electricity, you have to actually do something with your time. While a person in oklahoma can get on the government dole, get a small house in a small town, have food each month, have satellite tv, have air conditioning, and generally a leisure filled life just for being born in this country.

Personally, I think race is something that should be reported in these incidents. But I also think other factors bear mentioning so that society can get a better grip on what groups are more prone to these sorts of things than others. And by 'groups' I don't mean simply 'black' or 'white.' I'd love to know so much more about people involved in crimes that we struggle to understand the motivation for.... one or two parent family? do they work or go to school? education level? on gov't assistance? history of violence? socioeconomic status? etc. But the news will never dedicate that much to a story until it becomes sensationalized.

I've tried to figure that out myself. I just dont get where we all say, o race doesnt matter, it isnt about skin color. Then any time a tragedy happens focus turns to how dark a persons skin was and if they are a different religion than 'us'.

I've said it before - but when are morale and law abiding people going to start standing up for other morale and law abiding people. When you start splintering into fractions nothing gets accomplished and the entire conversation (just look at this thread) are wasted.

I personally think the problem is welfare / food stamps. I've spent a considerable amount of time in small oklahoman towns and it doesnt take long to figure out that there are a very small handful of wealthy people and the rest are dependent on the government. 39% of blacks, and 38% of whites are on government handouts. So nearly half of the population sits around with idle time on their hands watching the day go by. The worst thing is it becomes completely generational and learned behavior; and i say this with family living in SE oklahoma who are doing this very thing right now. Look at whats happening with china, population is booming in their cities because younger generations are moving off farmland to WORK. Because unless you want to live in a dirt floor hut with no electricity, you have to actually do something with your time. While a person in oklahoma can get on the government dole, get a small house in a small town, have food each month, have satellite tv, have air conditioning, and generally a leisure filled life just for being born in this country.
Considering how much Oklahoma Republicans are against welfare, you'd think they would do something at the State Capitol about making being on welfare less cushy. But maybe they fear the negative publicity that would come out of it. I kinda tend to feel they have nothing to fear from Oklahomans.

Tragic crime and those responsible should be punished under the law.

What is also tragic is just how some of the people on this forum think and post about others. Well maybe not tragic, just sad. Opinion levels of several have dropped. If anything it shows we still have a long way to go in this society. Utopia is definitely not anywhere close.

Here we go.....

Suspect in Duncan thrill kill tweeted hatred for white people (http://www.okcfox.com/story/23230153/suspect-in-duncan-thrill-kill-tweeted-hatred-for-white-people)


Rev. Jesse Jackson's statement on Chris Lane shooting (http://www.okcfox.com/story/23230237/rev-jesse-jacksons-statement-on-chris-lane-shooting)

The Duncan DA has said this isn't Duncan. Shouldn't Gov. Fallin be saying, "This isn't Oklahoma", if she hasn't already?

The Duncan DA has said this isn't Duncan. Shouldn't Gov. Fallin be saying, "This isn't Oklahoma", if she hasn't already?

Bunty, DOC is chock full of folks who killed someone(s), same race, other race, mixed race, multiple folk of various races, for little to no reason.
Sadly, this is a part of Oklahoma, and 49 other states plus D.C. and some territories, not to mention numerous other countries on various other continents.

Bunty, DOC is chock full of folks who killed someone(s), same race, other race, mixed race, multiple folk of various races, for little to no reason.
Sadly, this is a part of Oklahoma, and 49 other states plus D.C. and some territories, not to mention numerous other countries on various other continents.
But I don't believe for one second that Oklahomans so much as sometimes shoot at people in the back while merely out jogging and drive away. This is really a highly unusual case for Oklahoma. It wouldn't be grabbing so much attention in the media outside of Oklahoma, if it wasn't. Surely, most people can quite easily agree with me on that. Very, very, truly this isn't Oklahoma, either.

Bunty, I don't tend to believe for one second I enjoy too many strawberry shakes.
Plenty of folks would say we're both wrong.

People have died over the shoes on their feet, or the shoes someone wanted for their feet and the money person said no, not today, or were wrong place, wrong time, or jogging, or lack the ability to know when to shut up, or picked the wrong friend, laughed at the wrong person or insert other senseless reasons here all night long.

There are times I wish I was still skeptical about just how casually someone can end the life of another person. Oh well.

But I don't believe for one second that Oklahomans so much as sometimes shoot at people in the back while merely out jogging and drive away. This is really a highly unusual case for Oklahoma. It wouldn't be grabbing so much attention in the media outside of Oklahoma, if it wasn't. Surely, most people can quite easily agree with me on that. Very, very, truly this isn't Oklahoma, either.

I don't get what's so 'highly unusual' about this case. There are senseless murders perpetrated all the time in Oklahoma - it doesn't define us, but it certainly is not so rare.

Try looking over the jail blotter from time to time. Just this week I saw several individuals arrested on murder complaints.

As for senseless killings that rank on the same level, I'd have to point to....

1.) The fact in the 20's Oklahoma was literally running amuck with violent and often deadly gangsters.

2.) Fast forward to the 70's and you've got the Girl Scout Murders.

3.) Geraldine Martin being murdered while walking from a college art class in about '73.

4.) The Lawton Serial Murderer from the late '90's to early 2000's.

5.) More recently the senseless shooting of 11 and 13 year old Skyla Whitaker and Taylor (forget her last name).

6.) The murders of parents Dan and Kathy Freeman and the total disappearance of their teen daughters.

7.) OKC prostitute Baby Girl Bracket who was kidnapped, doused with gasoline and burned alive. Survived long enough to crawl to a rural home (still smoldering).

8.) The men who robbed a hotel in MWC and then forced the workers to swallow Clorox.

9.) Of course the unbelievable live dismemberment of Carina Saunders.

10.) 2009 murder of pastor Carol Daniels (nearly decapitated)

11.) The cannibal murder of 10 year old Jammie Bolin by Kevin Underwood.

12.) The cannibal killing in MWC by Greg Canatis.

I could go on and on, but you get my point.

...

5.) More recently the senseless shooting of 11 and 13 year old Skyla Whitaker and Taylor (forget her last name).
...

Taylor Paschal-Placker was the friend of Skyla Whitaker. Best as I recall, this hasn't made it to the trial stage as yet.

We can, and do, say that all the time. The problem is that any and every thing CAN be a weapon. If guns are prohibited, knives will do. Prohibit those, and clubs will work. Eliminate them, and any handy rock will suffice. Get rid of all possible objects, and the human hand is still available for use in violence.

Rather than do away with all possible tools, we need to get at the root cause -- which is the fact that we humans are predators, and some of our favorite prey are other humans. Like perfection, total elimination of violence is impossible to achieve -- but we can and should reduce its importance to our culture. If we don't, it will destroy us; it seems to be well on its way, already.

We could begin by boycotting movies and TV shows that glorify it, such as the James Bond franchise. We could quit patronizing advertisers who support such things by product placement or outright sponsorship. If violence ceased to be profitable, its impact on our culture would quickly diminish. But of course I'm dreaming; these things, also, are probably impossible...

It's been around as long as we have had movies and TV. Sex and violence sells. I caught an old Roy Rogers TV episode the other week and he had his gun out shooting at people several times during the 30 minute show, even Dale got into the act.

It's been around as long as we have had movies and TV. Sex and violence sells. I caught an old Roy Rogers TV episode the other week and he had his gun out shooting at people several times during the 30 minute show, even Dale got into the act.Quite true. Gene Autry also did a bit of gunfighting. But somehow they never hit anyone, must less splattered the bad guy all over the landscape.

John Wayne was a better shot, and usually hit his target. But even his most violent Westerns showed little more than the other guy dropping (presumably dead) to the ground. His WW2 battle flicks avoided showing blood, also; I can't comment on his VietNam movie because I've never watched it all the way through.

Today's violent entertainment features closeups of the gore. It seems to go out of its way for more shock value, instead of leaving the most gruesome details to the viewer's imagination -- which was a far more effective way to do the job, since repeated shocks only immunize people to the horror. Once immunized, some people -- especially young folk who've not yet fully developed their decision-making capabilities -- become unable to distinguish between entertainment and the real world. And sometimes we have tragic results...

And yet rape, murder and all sorts of brutality have existed all over this planet long before movies and TV.

People want an easy to point to solution. Its rarely ever that simple.

And yet rape, murder and all sorts of brutality have existed all over this planet long before movies and TV.

People want an easy to point to solution. Its rarely ever that simple.Quite true. I almost cited the entertainment tastes of the Romans. As I said originally, the root cause is the simple fact that we're all predators by nature, wired into our genes. Civilization is the response we've developed over the centuries to make it possible to live together in relative peace. However our immediate culture seems to have managed to neutralize some of its safety factors.

Agreed, there's no simple solution. There may be no solution at all. The only certainty is that things will always change, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. The best we can try for is to steer that change in the direction we feel will be for the better. And in that effort, doing something is better than doing nothing, even if the something is too simplistic to make much difference.

I doubt there will be much of a change until some alien race lands and tells us to knock this crap off or we will be made into a parking lot for interstellar travelers, the Motel 6 of the Universe.

Quite true. I almost cited the entertainment tastes of the Romans.

"Times are bad, children no longer obey their parents and everyone is writing a book." --Cicero

Young people are impulsive and impatient by nature - maturity fixes that, and that takes time.

Crises occur at the intersection of a volatile environment, unwise friends and a gun.

Young people are impulsive and impatient by nature - maturity fixes that, and that takes time.

Not always. I have seen many 30, 40, 50 years olds act like 5 year old kids and make the same stupid decisions teenagers do. in general age increases wisdom and maturity but that is not guaranteed.

I have seen many 30, 40, 50 years olds act like 5 year old kids and make the same stupid decisions teenagers do.
True. One of the other recent happenings in Duncan is that one of the local doctors shot is ex's boyfriend in the leg. There must have been a sale on ammo at Wal Mart.

How could you possibly have omitted the Sirloin Stockade Murders (and the killing of that family passing through that preceeded it)?

I actually knew the cannibalized guy in MWC. I think I met is son, the cannibal, once. The way that the dad treated the kid one might say he, the dad, had it coming. Suffice it to say that not a lot a tears were shed over his strange and untimely demise. There were more A&W Papa Burger jokes than anything else. Oh! And there was another cannibal deal in The Village awhile back . . . although I'm not sure if it was a murder/cannibalization or just a cannibalization after death by natural causes).

Why are so many articles listing discrepancies in the races of the alleged shooters? Some say three black teens, others say one white and two black and still others say one white, one black and one Hispanic. I don't have a race agenda, but I'd like to know the facts.

One black one biracial like President Obama and one white person

One white two black and all three were "aspiring rappers".

One black one biracial like President Obama and one white person

I don't get what's so 'highly unusual' about this case. There are senseless murders perpetrated all the time in Oklahoma - it doesn't define us, but it certainly is not so rare.

Try looking over the jail blotter from time to time. Just this week I saw several individuals arrested on murder complaints.

As for senseless killings that rank on the same level, I'd have to point to....

1.) The fact in the 20's Oklahoma was literally running amuck with violent and often deadly gangsters.

2.) Fast forward to the 70's and you've got the Girl Scout Murders.

3.) Geraldine Martin being murdered while walking from a college art class in about '73.

4.) The Lawton Serial Murderer from the late '90's to early 2000's.

5.) More recently the senseless shooting of 11 and 13 year old Skyla Whitaker and Taylor (forget her last name).

6.) The murders of parents Dan and Kathy Freeman and the total disappearance of their teen daughters.

7.) OKC prostitute Baby Girl Bracket who was kidnapped, doused with gasoline and burned alive. Survived long enough to crawl to a rural home (still smoldering).

8.) The men who robbed a hotel in MWC and then forced the workers to swallow Clorox.

9.) Of course the unbelievable live dismemberment of Carina Saunders.

10.) 2009 murder of pastor Carol Daniels (nearly decapitated)

11.) The cannibal murder of 10 year old Jammie Bolin by Kevin Underwood.

12.) The cannibal killing in MWC by Greg Canatis.

I could go on and on, but you get my point.
Then I apologize for being so terribly wrong in my viewpoint. I'm sorry. I might as well adjust my thinking to there's plenty of evil, thoughtless people out there who would sooner shoot you than look at you, so beware.

Bunty - I think this case is getting so much attention (not becauses its rare) because it was a good looking kid that was shot, he was exchange student, and people being hyper race sensitive after TM murder.

Plus like I've said 10 times now, Oklahomans don't want to hear about an ugly white Guy shooting.a baby, its mother, her other daughter, and her grandmother in their face. But some wanna be gangbangers shorting a good looking Aussie,who had a good looking.girlfriend...now that's news.

O and keeping rappers on a bus for.9 hours arresting all of them for broke. Taillight, thn releasing them less than.an hour later after no drugs were found...who cares ...you aren't welcome here...yeeeeeehaaaaaawwww

What the Lane family say:

"We would like to take this moment to thank everyone who has made a donation in Christopher's Name. We have appreciated the support we have revived from all around the world. We want people to know we don't believe what happened was a reflection of the people of Duncan or Oklahoma. Christopher was chasing his dreams and we believe everyone should do the same. Money left over after paying for his funeral expenses will go into a foundation which will make donations in Christopher's name to organizations he was passionate about and hopefully help full fill others dreams.

Christopher would be so proud he had a made a difference in so many lives."

At least the Lane family would have appreciated it, if Gov. Fallin had said, "This isn't Oklahoma." The sudden, unexpected loss of a family member is one of the worst things that can happen to anyone. I wish for the best for the Lane Family as they try to live with this tragedy.

O and keeping rappers on a bus for 9 hours arresting all of them for broke. Taillight, then releasing them less than.an hour later after no drugs were found...who cares ...you aren't welcome here...yeeeeeehaaaaaawwww

But I thought the media said narcotics were found, though no mention, if they were prescription. I was surprised the media put on a lawyer who said a tail light that was out on your car is legal grounds for a search. I disagree. What do they think drug dogs are for, prone as they are to giving false alerts? If the cop smelled pot from the bus, I supposed that is sufficient grounds for a search. If not, the cop should have just informed the driver of the tail light and let them on their way. There's more important things to do, like watching for drunks driving over stripes on the highway.

I would imagine as more neighboring states legalize marijuana, we'll have more of such cases to a ridiculously tiring extent. People will be too absent minded to get rid of their pot before entering Oklahoma. And cops, with legislators backing them, will be too reluctant to support legalization, due to having to face losing out on all the loot from civil and criminal forfeitures.

Bunty - I think this case is getting so much attention (not becauses its rare) because it was a good looking kid that was shot, he was exchange student, and people being hyper race sensitive after TM murder.

Plus like I've said 10 times now, Oklahomans don't want to hear about an ugly white Guy shooting.a baby, its mother, her other daughter, and her grandmother in their face. But some wanna be gangbangers shorting a good looking Aussie,who had a good looking.girlfriend...now that's news.

O and keeping rappers on a bus for.9 hours arresting all of them for broke. Taillight, thn releasing them less than.an hour later after no drugs were found...who cares ...you aren't welcome here...yeeeeeehaaaaaawwww

This is offensive as hell.

1. TM "murder?" A jury said otherwise.

2. I just can't imagine your hatred of the white race would make you write something so absurd. And make no mistake, Willy, it's clear you hate white folks.

Not always. I have seen many 30, 40, 50 years olds act like 5 year old kids and make the same stupid decisions teenagers do. in general age increases wisdom and maturity but that is not guaranteed.

Age != mental maturity. :)

This is offensive as hell.

1. TM "murder?" A jury said otherwise.

2. I just can't imagine your hatred of the white race would make you write something so absurd. And make no mistake, Willy, it's clear you hate white folks.

Zoo...some people are just best left to dwell in the sewers of the Politics section. There are a handful of posts on this thread which are clearly just here to try to inflame others and start a typical flame war back and forth. Good thing I got a full 44oz Sonic cup here to throw on the flames. :cool:

One black one biracial like President Obama and one white person.

I'll bet the "black" one is biracial too. At least biracial. Maybe even tri- or quad-[racial]
The one thing for sure is that he seems to be a little light in the "soul" department.
Say! Maybe he is a defective replicant clone . . . a defective replicant clone that was "energized" by gansta rap . . . like the Manchurian Candidate.