Guys they are all around! Hopefully! I'm not in your shoes but you are not painting a pretty picture for the majority of women. I would like to think maybe you just had a few bad experiences that helped you form this opinion. Don't give up hope. Real honest good women are out there just waiting for the right man. It will happen when its meant to happen.

Single women don't think to highly of single men and vice versa. No wonder singles have such a hard time trusting and finding someone that they want to be in a serious relationship with.

So in other words we all suck?

So in other words we all suck?
No

My two cents for what its worth........ I am not the typical woman that you guys are describing. However, I think it is all in your approach. If a guy was to approach me and ask how I was doing and start up a casual conversation then I would speak with them. I don't want a guy walking up to me and giving me a cheesy pick up line. That always makes it seem like they just want to get in my pants. But if they want to have a conversation then I will talk with anyone. I haven't been seperated long to be an expert on this but I know I will talk to a nice guy for a friendship and not just shoot him down. If I guy looks desperate and makes me feel uneasy I will turn away and run!

I fit your description as being the 24 year old halter top girl but I don't fit the personality or type of person you are describing. I like to look nice when I go out and have a fun time. Bottom line if a man approached me no matter what age or how he looked I would have a friendly conversation and then go from there. I am probably to "passive" or "shy" most of the time to do the approaching.

I am one that will have that friendly conversation with and am not into getting into a womans pants thats for later down the road. I have been hunting to have that friendship but not haveing much luck. I am very easy to get along with and easy to talk with so I have been told. I have 3 im's aim yahoo and msn if anybody wants to im an dchat a little bit. I usually don't log into the chat here since I don't ever see anybody in there. Maybe one of these days I will have my group of friends to hang out with.

Sorry didn't mean to sound so negative! No you don't suck!

I guess what I mean is maybe people should think more highly of the opposite sex instead of always expecting the worse. But I understand that is easier said then done when you have been screwed over once or more times before. I like to just have a good fun time and meet people. I wish everyone could have a laid back attitude instead of being uptight and on the guard. But then again I am no expert by far on relationships and dating.

I wish everyone could have a laid back attitude instead of being uptight and on the guard. But then again I am no expert by far on relationships and dating.
I am as laid back as anybody can get and not on guard whatever that means. Like I have said am easy going easy to talk to and easy to get along with.

and not on guard whatever that means.


That is pretty funny! LOL

See I can make people laugh and feel good, easy to get along with. Wouldn't that be a good thing in a guy. I know I would want my woman to be like that be able to make me happy and feel good. But yet I can't meet or even get any friends, think I am doomed to being alone for the rest of my days.

You are not doomed... if you have had relationships in the past, there is proof right there that you are not "doomed". You cant meet friends? Do you get out much?

Okay here is my input:

Ladies thanks......... your thoughts are a breath of fresh air. It's nice to know that women with common sense and a brain to match are still out there.

One of the biggest things I look for in a woman is, can she hold a meaningful conversation about the world around her. Does she care about more than just what is happening in hollywood and MTV?


Guys you have take a casual approach towards dating. That is what I am doing. You have to go out and live your life and make the best of what you have.

The best advice I can give on dealing with rejection is learn to read body language. If you know how to read body language you will never be rejected again. Just simply because body language gives you a snapshot of what someone is thinking.

You are not doomed... if you have had relationships in the past, there is proof right there that you are not "doomed". You cant meet friends? Do you get out much?


I don't get out much cause I either don't have time, have to take care of the kids or don't have enough to get out to do anything to meet anybody. I wish i could get to meet people, but I am also stil fighting my anxiety I have had for the pas year, sometimes I get scared and won't leave the house soemtimes I can.