I was at The Boom in December and saw a guy bust a beer bottle over a guy's forehead. He had a decent sized gash... Fast forward 2 months and that place is as packed as it ever was.

I agree in the notion that videos and press make all the difference in perception. By the looks of it, it's hardly any reason to feel unsafe, but if they get any more negative attention like this and a bad reputation may begin to form.

I have yet to go to Dust Bowl or Fassler Hall but this won't deter me.

I was at Ednas last saturday being a DD for my wife and her friends, and i saw a girl smash a beer mug over a guy who was about to fight with her boyfriend.

The crowd & Ednas has turned really affliction oriented lately.

Videos and press can make all the difference in perception...

Which is why Bricktown at times suffered such hits to its rep. It was the only game in town and held community-wide fascination for many years. For a while all activities in Bricktown were considered newsworthy; whether good or bad.

The unfortunate fact of the matter is, anytime you have people drinking - especially YOUNG people - you're going to have occasional fights. Right now the crowd at DB/Fassler skews very young. But statistically, the number of people who have been through that place vs. people who have been involved or even witnessed violence is probably overwhelming. The place is statistically quite safe. The challenge is making sure it is also safe by reputation.

Which is why Bricktown at times suffered such hits to its rep. It was the only game in town and held community-wide fascination for many years. For a while all activities in Bricktown were considered newsworthy; whether good or bad.

The unfortunate fact of the matter is, anytime you have people drinking - especially YOUNG people - you're going to have occasional fights. Right now the crowd at DB/Fassler skews very young. But statistically, the number of people who have been through that place vs. people who have been involved or even witnessed violence is probably overwhelming. The place is statistically quite safe. The challenge is making sure it is also safe by reputation.

Especially at a place that is as young & hip as Fassler. It doesn't take much for rumors & news to spread through a generation as connected as millennials are. Also the clientele that frequents there tends to be some social than most, since most of them are the "cool" kids.

When I was in town for Valentine's Day weekend we went to Fassler Hall. I had a great time, but I don't know if it was because of the setting or because we were there a bit late. But everyone seemed highly intoxicated, especially compared to where we were coming from (Pump Bar). Not an angry drunk by any means....people were quite nice. In fact some random guy bought me a beer for giving up my seat to his GF at the bar. But it did strike me nonetheless. IDK if the open, casual nature of that place makes bartenders more susceptible to overserving people.

In any event, OKC's nightlife has a bit of a bro-ish quality to it. Not that it bothers me. I'd take bros over pretentious yuppies any time, but that crowd seems to be a little more willing to throw down after a few if someone or something disrespects them.

Every time I go to Fassler Hall, it is like a reunion of a ton of my greek friends from OSU. It's like JR Murphy's for young professionals.

In my 25 years of hanging out in seedy Oklahoma bars playing in a band and shooting in pool leagues I have seen one fight..... Between our lead singer and our keyboard player's girlfriends.

It was funny because it's an unwritten rule that if a fight breaks out the band does not stop playing so as to try and not draw attention to the fight. So they couldn't stop playing to try and break up the fight.

I was at Ednas last saturday being a DD for my wife and her friends, and i saw a girl smash a beer mug over a guy who was about to fight with her boyfriend.

That's because Edna is no longer around to jump over the bar with a pool cue to break it up. I miss her.

When I was in town for Valentine's Day weekend we went to Fassler Hall. I had a great time, but I don't know if it was because of the setting or because we were there a bit late. But everyone seemed highly intoxicated, especially compared to where we were coming from (Pump Bar). Not an angry drunk by any means....people were quite nice. In fact some random guy bought me a beer for giving up my seat to his GF at the bar. But it did strike me nonetheless. IDK if the open, casual nature of that place makes bartenders more susceptible to overserving people.

In any event, OKC's nightlife has a bit of a bro-ish quality to it. Not that it bothers me. I'd take bros over pretentious yuppies any time, but that crowd seems to be a little more willing to throw down after a few if someone or something disrespects them.

Sounds about like fassler in Tulsa.

I was at Ednas last saturday being a DD for my wife and her friends, and i saw a girl smash a beer mug over a guy who was about to fight with her boyfriend.

My wife and I (with friends) were there Saturday as well, although it was early, and it was fairly quiet. Must have gotten rougher later in the day. Surprised with the weather.

Just from personal experience, I think of myself to have a pretty good tolerance when it comes to beer and drinking. That being said, I thought I was a tough guy and ordered two of their big beers (mainly because I didn't want to stand in line again) and I barely finished the first one before I had to split up the second one because I was nice and toasty.

Just from personal experience, I think of myself to have a pretty good tolerance when it comes to beer and drinking. That being said, I thought I was a tough guy and ordered two of their big beers (mainly because I didn't want to stand in line again) and I barely finished the first one before I had to split up the second one because I was nice and toasty.

I have learned to pay attention to ABV. Some of the beers are 8% or higher while others are 5% or below. It makes a big difference when it comes to how tipsy you get and how fast.

Just from personal experience, I think of myself to have a pretty good tolerance when it comes to beer and drinking. That being said, I thought I was a tough guy and ordered two of their big beers (mainly because I didn't want to stand in line again) and I barely finished the first one before I had to split up the second one because I was nice and toasty.

Yeah...A liter is about 34 ounces...Almost 3 beers. That's a lot to drink in a public setting...6 beers...well hope.you're there for at least 3 hours.

When I was in town for Valentine's Day weekend we went to Fassler Hall. I had a great time, but I don't know if it was because of the setting or because we were there a bit late. But everyone seemed highly intoxicated, especially compared to where we were coming from (Pump Bar). Not an angry drunk by any means....people were quite nice. In fact some random guy bought me a beer for giving up my seat to his GF at the bar. But it did strike me nonetheless. IDK if the open, casual nature of that place makes bartenders more susceptible to overserving people.

In any event, OKC's nightlife has a bit of a bro-ish quality to it. Not that it bothers me. I'd take bros over pretentious yuppies any time, but that crowd seems to be a little more willing to throw down after a few if someone or something disrespects them.

This. I have only been to Fassler Hall once, and I thought the crowd was decidedly unhip and rating fairly high on the douche scale.

This. I have only been to Fassler Hall once, and I thought the crowd was decidedly unhip and rating fairly high on the douche scale.

Skyy Bar people had to go somewhere to get plastered. ;)

Maybe I'm out of the loop but I guess I'm not understanding the difference between bro, yuppie, and hip?

Because all of my best friends from college frequent Fassler so I'm guessing they're all douchey bros? News to me.

Maybe I'm out of the loop but I guess I'm not understanding the difference between bro, yuppie, and hip?

Bro, yuppie & hip = douchy, smug and annoying. :)

Bro, yuppie & hip = douchy, smug and annoying. :)

But aren't these the people that are making Midtown the place to be these days....

But aren't these the people that are making Midtown the place to be these days....

The place to be is relative, there are plenty of other buzzy places in OKC that aren't midtown. People partying in midtown right now are the ones who typically have a higher expandable income, come from more affluent families. Rich people tend to think they are cooler than everybody else, so that makes it "the place to be". I'm just a random though, so my opinion probably doesn't matter.

You said so yourself all your friends were greeks, you have to realize that there are stereotypes in that segment. Of course not all stereotypes are true for all people in a segment, but more times than not stereotypes are deserved.

But aren't these the people that are making Midtown the place to be these days....

I was just joking, of course. Just trying to translate the stereotypes.

I just like to see people in OKC out, interacting and having a good time, particularly in the urban core.

The place to be is relative, there are plenty of other buzzy places in OKC that aren't midtown. People partying in midtown right now are the ones who typically have a higher expandable income, come from more affluent families. Rich people tend to think they are cooler than everybody else, so that makes it "the place to be". I'm just a random though, so my opinion probably doesn't matter.

You said so yourself all your friends were greeks, you have to realize that there are stereotypes in that segment. Of course not all stereotypes are true for all people in a segment, but more times than not stereotypes are deserved.

Man, my bashing on greeks last week was almost prophetic...

I stopped by Fassler and Bleu Garten for a bit this weekend and I can't understate what great community gathering places both of these establishments are... Both were so incredibly packed. It is amazing how many people both places hold...

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Right, between those two places alone they are drawing thousands over the weekend.

Pretty amazing.

Right, between those two places alone they are drawing thousands over the weekend.

Pretty amazing.

Yes it is drawing a ton. Them, and along with Bleu Garten and the other small places in Midtown had all grass lots north of 10th filled with cars Sat night. Dare I say that there might be a parking problem... ;)

All the more reason to get that streetcar in I suppose. Maybe they'll agree to scoot it up, what with having that oh crap, whadda mean we can't afford that patch of asphalt for the cc problem that snuck up on them like a knife toting ner do well in a teen slasher pic. Everyone else saw him coming, everyone except the ones destined to be the newest members of club slash and bash.

Those damn violent bricktown night clubs! oh wait...

Dramatic assault at local bowling alley caught on camera | KFOR.com (http://kfor.com/2015/03/04/dramatic-assault-at-local-bowling-alley-caught-on-camera/)

So weird they haven't charged the two who assaulted that guy yet. The police have had their identity ever since the video aired. Both are from well connected and well known families in the city. I check OSCN each day and still no charges.

So weird they haven't charged the two who assaulted that guy yet. The police have had their identity ever since the video aired. Both are from well connected and well known families in the city. I check OSCN each day and still no charges.

Shocker

What are their names?

I check OSCN each day and still no charges.That is hilarious. Obviously you don't have to answer this, but in case you feel up to it, is there any reason why? I'm sure you've enjoyed seeing my record of speeding and traffic tickets.

That is hilarious. Obviously you don't have to answer this, but in case you feel up to it, is there any reason why? I'm sure you've enjoyed seeing my record of speeding and traffic tickets.

plupan, that is a topic that is better left to a pm instead of going off topic here.

plupan, that is a topic that is better left to a pm instead of going off topic here.yeah, that's probably true. There is a reason why I did what I did though. But you're right.

That is hilarious. Obviously you don't have to answer this, but in case you feel up to it, is there any reason why? I'm sure you've enjoyed seeing my record of speeding and traffic tickets.

Plu - grow up already.

If you can't understand why I (and others should) find it odd these rich brats haven't been charged then I can't help you out.

It was leading news for a day or two. Police released footage 'hoping to identify the culprits.' However, once they realized who they were the kids of (within hours of releasing the footage), now, nothing.

I don't see any problem with tracking it. It was a very public crime.

I'm sure the family settled with the victim outside of court/law to not press any charges. Just more spoiled brats who think they can get away with anything, and stuff like this proves they are mostly right.

I don't see any problem with tracking it. It was a very public crime.

I'm sure the family settled with the victim outside of court/law to not press any charges. Just more spoiled brats who think they can get away with anything, and stuff like this proves they are mostly right.

OCPD is telling the media 'its still under investigation.' But admit they have identified their suspects. Its always odd how Oklahoma County 'justice' works. Some people are able to 'negotiate' a settlement and avoid criminal charges while others would be charged with witness tampering, obstruction, etc. if they tried to reach a monetary settlement.

If you have the funds and the victim agrees, I see nothing wrong with settling out of court.

Plu - grow up already.

If you can't understand why I (and others should) find it odd these rich brats haven't been charged then I can't help you out.

It was leading news for a day or two. Police released footage 'hoping to identify the culprits.' However, once they realized who they were the kids of (within hours of releasing the footage), now, nothing.i agree with you I think they should be charged.

Ahhhhh, the myth of our meritocracy.

If you have the funds and the victim agrees, I see nothing wrong with settling out of court.

That creates a murky precedence. Victims are always welcome to actually pursue and prove their case in civil court and get a judgement or settlement. The "I see nothing wrong with [buying my way out of criminal acts]" simply opens the door for well-to-do criminals to commit sexual assaults , etc. without much fear of going to jail.

How about if SAE was simply allowed to write a check to OU anytime they wanted to sing their racist chant? Would you see anything wrong with that? (I realize that isn't a criminal case, but could possibly fall within the realm of your thinking)

What if some guy goes on a raping spree of single mom's who don't make a lot of money..... A lawyer approaches them and says, "Hey, sure you can testify against my guy and he goes to prison. But where does that leave you? Still a broke single mom. How about if he gives you $300,000 and you tell the DA not to pursue charges?" Can you see the problem this would create?

Not to say it doesn't happen to a degree. That could certainly be going on now. My GUESS is that is why formal charges have not been filed yet - to give the well connect and wealthy families a chance to buy their kids out of this. Once there is actually a criminal case filed, it would make it much more difficult for mommy and daddy to buy their kids way out of this. If charges haven't been filed it is much more of a gray area in the law.

I've worked some criminal cases where the accused wanted to offer to 'settle' with the alleged victim. In one case recently, a doctor accused of sexual assault made a large monetary offer and the DA's office threatened several more charges if that happened. Just depends on the climate of your DA's office and who allegedly committed the crime.

In smaller cases - and maybe they are considering this a smaller case - the DA's office is actually a part of the 'settlement.' Often people who write bad checks are allowed to make good on them and prove it to the DA's office and the charge is dropped. A local OKC lawyer caught in a prostitution sting was told by the DA's office to write a $1,000 check to a women's non-profit and they wouldn't file charges. I know a shoplifter that reimbursed a store they stole from and charges were dropped. So, it does happen, but I think it should be limited to things like petty theft, shoplifting, bogus checks, etc. Not physical violence, anything where a weapon is used, sexual assault, prostitution, etc.

Its also a double edged sword. A crime victim is expected to cooperate in the prosecution's case. However, while the prosecution gets justice (a guilty verdict and possible prison), the victim often gets nothing - or not nearly the monetary compensation they deserve. However, if a person files a civil case at the same time as the criminal case, then the criminal defendant's lawyer uses that against them in court claiming this is simply all about the money.

Its a screwy system.

Michael Jackson...

All men are created equal.
All wallets are not created equal.

Both of the above statements are more true than false.
Not saying that's just fine and dandy.

Im not saying its right, but if someone beat a person up then offered $100K to keep their mouth shut they would be silly to not entertain the idea. And if they do take the money then that's that.

If you have the funds and the victim agrees, I see nothing wrong with settling out of court.

That's fine for civil actions, not so much for criminal. Remember in criminal actions it is " The State of Oklahoma v. Defendant". There were costs to society that were incurred by these hoodlums that are not recovered by the authorities as of yet.

Ha! I forget how many higher ups read this board. Guess I touched a nerve. I've been assured the names I have are correct and that charges are coming soon.

Ha! I forget how many higher ups read this board. Guess I touched a nerve. I've been assured the names I have are correct and that charges are coming soon.

Did you post the names and they got deleted or something? If not, who were the two guys the police wanted identified?

Did you post the names and they got deleted or something? If not, who were the two guys the police wanted identified?

I can't reveal, but one will be testifying against the other.

I was surprised to see on the OKCPD FB page they named the 15 year old juvenile who has now been arrested.
https://www.facebook.com/okcpd?fref=nf


Not sure this is the same event.
Not sure I like that FB naming notion very much.

I believe that was a different video.

I believe that was a different video. Don't think so. Said video shows three against one.

https://www.facebook.com/okcpd?fref=nf

There was a video that surfaced last week on Facebook and then later on local news stations that showed a brutal beating that took place in Oklahoma City. Three suspects were eventually identified, one of which has now been arrested. 15 year-old Christopher (A.) was arrested last night by officers from our Gang Unit. He was booked into the Berry House (juvenile detention facility) on a complaint of aggravated assault and battery, which is a felony crime. Two other suspects are still outstanding. We will keep you posted.





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Don't think so. Said video shows three against one.

https://www.facebook.com/okcpd?fref=nf

There was a video that surfaced last week on Facebook and then later on local news stations that showed a brutal beating that took place in Oklahoma City. Three suspects were eventually identified, one of which has now been arrested. 15 year-old Christopher (A.) was arrested last night by officers from our Gang Unit. He was booked into the Berry House (juvenile detention facility) on a complaint of aggravated assault and battery, which is a felony crime. Two other suspects are still outstanding. We will keep you posted.





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They are talking about a video by PCW and the suspect was arrested by the Gang Unit. If there was a drunk 15 year old at Dust Bowl they would have more to worry about.

I was surprised to see on the OKCPD FB page they named the 15 year old juvenile who has now been arrested.
https://www.facebook.com/okcpd?fref=nf


Not sure this is the same event.
Not sure I like that FB naming notion very much.

Not the same video as the Fassler Hall beating.

It's all a public record now. The two males in the assault video are Samuel Hogan and Alexander Chase Lake. Hogan will apparently testify against Lake if needed (to avoid charges most likely). A warrant has been issued for Lake. Some might recall that Hogan made news last year after he allegedly went to a haunted house and assaulted a costumed worker - a teen girl. That case is still active.

Has there been talk of what might go in the east spaces of this complex?

Has there been talk of what might go in the east spaces of this complex?

There is quite a bit of space over there and I think they are going to be selective about to whom they rent.

Same with the former Meg Guess space.

MidtownR has done a great job of being patient and ultimately landing some great tenants that bring a lot to the area.

Geez, just catching up on current events. Since its apparent everyone know's who these rich kid delinquents are. Can me and my other small business drinking establishment owning fellows get a list of names so we can kick these douchebags out on the curb if they ever show their faces?

The Flashback pub would be a great fit for Midtown in either one of the open areas.

rumor has it, an orthodontist is moving into the spot next to fassler hall from what i have heard. will refrain from the name as i am not sure he has told his partners.

I have concluded that Fassler Hall is definitely my scene. While I am happy the proprietors are printing money, I can't imagine I'll be be patronizing it any time in the near future.

I have concluded that Fassler Hall is definitely my scene. While I am happy the proprietors are printing money, I can't imagine I'll be be patronizing it any time in the near future.

Did you mean definitely "NOT" my scene?

Did you mean definitely "NOT" my scene?

Why yes, I did. Thanks for the edit. I view Fassler Hall as a particularly loud but not especially interesting place to get hammered. The German sausages are OK. Just not my scene. For the legions of younger folk on a quest to get hammered in a rowdy hall, Prost. Just not my barrel of lager.

Why yes, I did. Thanks for the edit. I view Fassler Hall as a particularly loud but not especially interesting place to get hammered. The German sausages are OK. Just not my scene. For the legions of younger folk on a quest to get hammered in a rowdy hall, Prost. Just not my barrel of lager.

I went during a lunch period, so the atmosphere was much different. We could enjoy our drinks and our food in relative peace. We thought the sausages were more than just OK...