I'm not aware of a "formal inquiry."

That usually comes later depending on what's found at this stage of the investigation?

PS: Right now (not 100% sure) but I think its a notice of inquiry?

It is pretty clear that osu has a small fan base they have 1 sell out all time in a 60k stadium

Or because of ticket pricing policies

Screw you for not dealing in extremely well know facts!

Someone is letting bedlam get the best of them..

That usually comes later depending on what's found at this stage of the investigation?

PS: Right now (not 100% sure) but I think its a notice of inquiry?

I'm guessing this leads to nothing of consequence. The NCAA won't bust anyone anyway, unless the evidence is literally gathered and published in the national media. There was no way for them to unf*ck the situation with Reggie Bush and USC, which is why the Trojans got hammered.

Someone is letting bedlam get the best of them..

No I'm dealing in known facts you and some others are not. Your acting on emotion, hopes and misconceptions that will not be under any considered by investigators or by other conferences. To them this is a very bottom line deal that’s very black and white.

No I'm dealing in known facts you and some others are not. Your acting on emotion, hopes and misconceptions that will not be under any considered by investigators or by other conferences. To them this is a very bottom line deal that’s very black and white.

Since a few love playing this game on here, I think it is only fair to turn this around.

Please provide the links to the documents about this known facts so that for those of us not in the know can be informed. That way we can accurately contribute to this conversation on a level you feel you are dealing on. You've been asked once (maybe more?) already, and no links to the facts have been provided.

Please fill us in on what we apparently don't have.

As far as people acting on emotion...most of the posts by others are pretty emotionless, so not sure where that is coming from.

I'm guessing this leads to nothing of consequence. The NCAA won't bust anyone anyway, unless the evidence is literally gathered and published in the national media. There was no way for them to unf*ck the situation with Reggie Bush and USC, which is why the Trojans got hammered.I don't know what's going to happen to OSU but to act like this has been forgotten as an issue as it was suggested is stupid at best.

There was a time when most USC people seemingly thought that nothing much would happen to them.
What doesn’t seem to be very well understood here is that even if the investigation only finds a small fraction of what SI said they found that this is much, much worse than what happened at USC or Miami. But OSU is said to be fully cooperating which is very good for them.

The people who sit on the NCAA committees change with frequency so its way too soon to pass any judgment about what mood the NCAA when this case hits the committees... Due to the small OSU footprint the new committee members may seek to make an example of OSU? The frequent committees changes IMHO account for many of the discrepancy of the NCAA over the years. Unfortunately its just not always fair.

Since a few love playing this game on here, I think it is only fair to turn this around.

Please provide the links to the documents about this known facts so that for those of us not in the know can be informed. That way we can accurately contribute to this conversation on a level you feel you are dealing on. You've been asked once (maybe more?) already, and no links to the facts have been provided.

Please fill us in on what we apparently don't have.

As far as people acting on emotion...most of the posts by others are pretty emotionless, so not sure where that is coming from.

This sounds like people who are taking this very seriously.
They have not swept this under the rug and forgotten about this as some ordinary fans have.
But then that was goal of the PR campaign.

Burns Hargis releases new statement on SI allegations of OSU | KFOR.com (http://kfor.com/2013/09/11/ok-state-launches-website-to-respond-to-si-allegations/)


STILLWATER, Okla. – As the fourth part of a five-part series was released from Sports Illustrated detailing alleged misconduct by the OSU football team, Oklahoma State President Burns Hargis is speaking out about the accusations.

“As we have said, we will investigate the accuracy of the allegations and take all appropriate action,” OSU President Burns Hargis said. “We do not condone or tolerate improper conduct in our athletic programs.”

In Friday’s statement, Hargis says they will get to the bottom of the accusations and that he believes the current staff is committed to making sure the program is at its best.

He said, “At OSU, sure we want to win. But we want to win the right way.”
Watch the full statement here.
University officials said they have contacted the NCAA and advised it of the accusations.

OSU Vice President of Athletics Mike Holder said, “We take the allegations seriously, whether they have merit or not, we don’t know, but we will find out.”

Now your coming around to the reality !
Yes, OSU did hire a former investigator to investigate this.
But that's not forgetting about this as you said everybody had done.

OSU hired a FORMER investigator to look into the allegations. NCAA isn't doing anything. But facts, right?

Screw you for not dealing in extremely well know facts!

What facts. Things you've made up?

This sounds like people who are taking this very seriously.
They have not swept this under the rug and forgotten about this as some ordinary fans have.
But then that was goal of the PR campaign.

Burns Hargis releases new statement on SI allegations of OSU | KFOR.com (http://kfor.com/2013/09/11/ok-state-launches-website-to-respond-to-si-allegations/)


STILLWATER, Okla. – As the fourth part of a five-part series was released from Sports Illustrated detailing alleged misconduct by the OSU football team, Oklahoma State President Burns Hargis is speaking out about the accusations.

“As we have said, we will investigate the accuracy of the allegations and take all appropriate action,” OSU President Burns Hargis said. “We do not condone or tolerate improper conduct in our athletic programs.”

In Friday’s statement, Hargis says they will get to the bottom of the accusations and that he believes the current staff is committed to making sure the program is at its best.

He said, “At OSU, sure we want to win. But we want to win the right way.”
Watch the full statement here.
University officials said they have contacted the NCAA and advised it of the accusations.

OSU Vice President of Athletics Mike Holder said, “We take the allegations seriously, whether they have merit or not, we don’t know, but we will find out.”

That's from September. Anything a bit more current?

Point is that a few years ago the NCAA had Cam Cameron, a bag of money, and Auburn University in their coloring book, but couldn't connect the dots for what would have been an epic crushing. You really, really think they're going to make some sort of epic, sweeping event out of a bunch of innuendo from taped interviews from guys that played at OSU up to a decade ago?

C'mon, ou48A, you're too smart for that. You know as well as I do that there may well be a hand slap at some point in time for the sake of public consumption, but the practical chances of anything more extreme coming out of this are somewhere between slim and none.

As Mr. Rogers once said, "Scary bad wishes don't make things come true."

In more relevant news, How 'Bout Them Duke Footballin' Blue Devils?? They're gonna get crushed by FSU, but they won a division in the ACC...

What facts. Things you've made up?

You are not even honest enough to deal with you own words that have been shown to be patently false.
The people who matter have not forgotten this and I have shown that as fact with link of OSU people.
You can keep living the lie but I'm done with your dishonesty!

That's from September. Anything a bit more current?

Point is that a few years ago the NCAA had Cam Cameron, a bag of money, and Auburn University in their coloring book, but couldn't connect the dots for what would have been an epic crushing. You really, really think they're going to make some sort of epic, sweeping event out of a bunch of innuendo from taped interviews from guys that played at OSU up to a decade ago?

C'mon, ou48A, you're too smart for that. You know as well as I do that there may well be a hand slap at some point in time for the sake of public consumption, but the practical chances of anything more extreme coming out of this are somewhere between slim and none.

As Mr. Rogers once said, "Scary bad wishes don't make things come true."

In more relevant news, How 'Bout Them Duke Footballin' Blue Devils?? They're gonna get crushed by FSU, but they won a division in the ACC...

I just got though telling you in post #427 “I don't know what's going to happen to OSU” AND I DON'T.
But to act like nothing will happen and that everybody has forgotten this is the stuff for fools.
Unless I'm mistaken you are no fool.


PS: As far as more current facts, that's what the ongoing investigation is about

You are not even honest enough to deal with you own words that have been shown to be patently false.
The people who matter have not forgotten this and I have shown that as fact with link of OSU people.
You can keep living the lie but I'm done with your dishonesty!

I've given you plenty of chances. You've claimed there is a "serious" NCAA investigation, but there isn't, so you're patently dishonest. Feel free to offer something else. Otherwise, you've accomplished something at least. Folks who never agree on this board all came together to agree you're full of it!

PS: As far as more current facts, that's what the ongoing investigation is about

What about the facts sustaining the "ongoing investigation" that is occurring? That is what people are asking for and what you aren't providing.


I've given you plenty of chances. You've claimed there is a "serious" NCAA investigation, but there isn't, so you're patently dishonest. Feel free to offer something else. Otherwise, you've accomplished something at least. Folks who never agree on this board all came together to agree you're full of it!

I think most already figured that out from the Lindsey Street thread and [insert random politics thread name here]. If people want to say with absolute certainty something is going on, they should at least have something to back them up. Something more than a 3 months old article about the university presidents notifying the NCAA. My freshman political science and English composition professors would have laughed me out of school if I wrote accusations or arguments without backing them up with verifiable sources. This isn't MSNBC and Fox News. :)

Screw you for not dealing in extremely well know facts!

I read OU84A's posts in the same voice I read the posts on this site: Engrish.com (http://www.engrish.com/)

What about the facts sustaining the "ongoing investigation" that is occurring? That is what people are asking for and what you aren't providing.



I think most already figured that out from the Lindsey Street thread and [insert random politics thread name here]. If people want to say with absolute certainty something is going on, they should at least have something to back them up. Something more than a 3 months old article about the university presidents notifying the NCAA. My freshman political science and English composition professors would have laughed me out of school if I wrote accusations or arguments without backing them up with verifiable sources. This isn't MSNBC and Fox News. :)
Your a complete fool, plain and simple, or else you are guilty of extreme ignorance as are others about the process..... but I believe its the former because as so often you are so willing to believe in what is not true. You have shown over and over to know what is practical in the real world. You are like dealing with a immature kid when he doesn’t get his way!

I have you and other links.... Will I posts one more that shows OSU has invited the NCAA to be “ part of the review” There is an NCAA INVESTAGTION OF OSU LIKE IT OR NOT!
But truly informed people already knew this.

Oklahoma State University president: School will investigate Sports Illustrated allegations - College Football - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130913/oklahoma-state-allegations-ncaa-si.ap/)

Oklahoma State President Burns Hargis says the school will conduct an investigation into possible rules violations by the football program that have been alleged in a series of stories by Sports Illustrated this week, and
will ask the NCAA to be part of the review. In a video statement posted online Friday night, Hargis calls the allegations "very disturbing."

Except there's not. There's nothing besides that single quote to say the NCAA is looking into it. Hey, I asked the FBI to look into you. Can I now say there's a "SERIOUS" FBI investigation into ou48a?

What a joke.

I read OU84A's posts in the same voice I read the posts on this site: Engrish.com (http://www.engrish.com/)So what, you must be another brain washed poke fan who doesn’t even know what his own university has said.

Could you provide a link to the GRE scores, student population, and programs? Just curious where you got the info.

Most academic smack consists of overgeneralizations and elitism. The basis for claiming academic superiority on something like GRE scores proves what? Different universities have different strengths that are well suited for different students. Some students are better served at OU, some OU, some Harvard, and some UCO. Many of these reasons are not measurable. My education at OU changed who I was as a person, citizen, and professional. I hope everyone finds what they need at whatever university (or other avenue) they choose. In sum, football smack is fun. Academic smack is often silly and insulting. Sorry. I'll get off my soapbox.

Universities for different GRE Scores | Educational Information (http://usgraduatesblog.com/universities-for-different-gre-scores/)

Propaganda:
https://news.okstate.edu/images/enrollmentgraphicwhole.jpg

More propaganda:
http://www.ou.edu/provost/ir/enrollment-statistics/Spring%202013.pdf

I'm not beating my chest academically, I'll be the first to argue that OSU can do better. I'm just responding to ou48a's utterly absurd that one of these schools is significantly ahead of the other. As for AAU chest beating, OU has been trying to get in for 30 years and the chest beating of a few posters can only be silenced by an outright, unequivocal, final rejection which doesnt happen to any school.

For the complete idiots who are really pretty stupid people.
I just don't make this stuff up!


NCAA to assign investigator to look into Oklahoma State football allegations » Local News » Stillwater NewsPress (http://www.stwnewspress.com/local/x31543191/NCAA-to-assign-investigator-to-look-into-Oklahoma-State-football-allegations)

September 9, 2013 NCAA to assign investigator to look into Oklahoma State football allegations By Chris Day Stillwater NewsPress The Stillwater News Press Mon Sep 09, 2013, 02:51 PM CDT STILLWATER, Okla. — Oklahoma State University will cooperate with an NCAA investigation into allegations anticipated in articles to be published in Sports Illustrated magazine and on its website, Vice President of Athletics Mike Holder said Monday. The articles are anticipated to start with this week’s issue. The university has notified
the NCAA, which will assign an investigator to determine the facts.

What a joke. Nothing is still nothing.

In his own words this is what a former NCAA investigator said about this case
Click to watch video

Former NCAA Investigator Weighs In On What's Next For OSU - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/23408915/former-ncaa-investigator-weighs-in-on-whats-next-for-osu)

OKLAHOMA CITY -
A former NCAA investigator is giving new insight surrounding the alleged "Dirty Game" played behind the scenes at Oklahoma State University.
Part two of the Sports Illustrated five-part series published Wednesday says OSU allowed academic misconduct to keep players eligible to play football.

Norman attorney and former NCAA investigator Brent Clark is familiar with similar scandals. Clark worked on the SMU investigation in 1976 and has also looked into the UCLA basketball program. He says the scrutiny for OSU is far from over.

9/11/2013 Related Story: OSU Graduation Rates Among The Worst In The FBS*
"It's a high-profile case with serious allegations spanning a number of years," Clark said.
Accusations of pay-for-play cash, cheating and sex have magazines flying off newsstands.

"It's one of the unfortunate consequences of allegations … which is that, in a way, the penalty starts once the allegations are made known," said Clark.

Clark, an attorney for 35 years, started his career as an NCAA investigator. He no longer works for the organization and has nothing to do with the current case in Stillwater, but he does know what could come next.

Clarks says one or two NCAA investigators will likely be assigned to the OSU case. Credible allegations will then find their way into an NCAA official inquiry. OSU will do its own investigation to answer the charges. Then, there will be an NCAA hearing.

"It certainly has the potential … of a multi-year probation," Clark said.

Also on the table could be could be the loss of scholarships and the prohibition in the participation of bowl games. But, before any of that, witnesses must be interviewed, and already, some former players claim Sports Illustrated misquoted them.
"Witnesses recant their testimony all the time based upon different kinds of pressures – including the pressure to not want to be involved in this anymore," said Clark.

So still no facts about a "serious" NCAA investigation. Gee.

Ou48a should do an investigation into the ass kicking his team is going to get in Stillwater.

The more successful OSU becomes at several things, the more insecure some people seem to be.

What a joke. Nothing is still nothing.
What's a joke is that you have been caught in a bold face lie and you kept trying to spin your way out of it.


Not only has the SI article been forgotten about, .

The SI article has been forgotten about. It turned out to be kind of a joke.

Shocker alert: Expelled former players are mad at OSU and successful hotshots got laid.

It just didn't spell scandal when the details bubbled to the top.

What's a joke is that you have been caught in a bold face lie and you kept trying to spin your way out of it.

What lie is that? Be prepared to back up your slander. Where have I lied.

I love how you back me in one quote, and call me a liar in another. Make up your mind. Feel free to introduce some actual facts for one.

What's a joke is that you have been caught in a bold face lie and you kept trying to spin your way out of it.

And I love you "disprove" my comment about the SI article being forgotten about by posting links to 3-4 month old quotes, which really just proves my point. So, thank you for that. You work better and harder to prove my point than yours. Joke.

Ou48a should do an investigation into the ass kicking his team is going to get in Stillwater.

.
That’s a totally separate matter... to many easy to offend poke feelings have people not understanding the reality of the truth.....good and smart OSU officials and others have not forgotten the SI story and its fall out.
OSU will be dealing this, the NCAA and an investigation, probably for several more months. We will need wait and see on the punishment phase and see what develops.

Joke. Can you find anything later than around when the articles hit to support that? Something in October or November maybe? No?

Quote Originally Posted by jerrywall View Post

Not only has the SI article been forgotten about, .



And I love you "disprove" my comment about the SI article being forgotten about by posting links to 3-4 month old quotes, which really just proves my point. So, thank you for that. You work better and harder to prove my point than yours. Joke.
Sir you are a total LIAR!
I do not tolerate people who are so messed up as to lie like you have!
You are now on my ignore list forever.
You join only one other liar on this board that I have on ignore.

Plenty of smarter people than you are looking into this OSU matter..... making it not forgotten as you claimed.
When the investigation is done that's when we will hear more! That's how investigations work most cases.

The SI article has been forgotten about. It turned out to be kind of a joke.

Shocker alert: Expelled former players are mad at OSU and successful hotshots got laid.

It just didn't spell scandal when the details bubbled to the top.SO, The investigators will still have questions for them

Goodbye then.

You are a joke to everyone here. Nice to know you won't reply to me. I stand by my original statement, which is that the SI articles are gone and forgotten, and your 3 month old links don't change that fact. They also don't change that you are a joke.

Glad to know you run when you can't defend. Goodbye. Joke.

"Most epic melt down on this board ever" award?

lol

lol

Welcome to the club - now with two members!

This thread has been a hoot to read though!

What facts. Things you've made up? (Post#430)

I wonder how much of his earnings the hired investigator for the NCAA is kicking back into the College Football coffers . . .

"Most epic melt down on this board ever" award?
The epic melt down goes to the people like you VENTURE who are so ignorant of even the basic facts on this deal they can't deal with the truth when it's shown. Or is this more about your hate for me that has crossed many, many threads.

But if I'm so wrong where is your proof VENTURE (and any one else) that I'm wrong.... that this has not been forgotten?
I provided several links on this thread, where are yours to disprove me?

Lol. Joke.

Don't feed the trolls....

Don't feed the trolls....

But it's so entertaining.

5148

How Boone Pickens Stadium looked after an inch, or so of snow a while before dark. Apparently, it shows the Cowboys practicing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BawTM7sCUAAkTbU.jpg:large

It's going to be interesting to see how the conditions affect each team...

It's going to be interesting to see how the conditions affect each team...

My prediction is that they will get very cold.

It's going to be interesting to see how the conditions affect each team...

I don't know if you listen to any of the local radio stations but on The Franchise all the former players are like, "oh I love playing when it's cold!" and all serious about it.

I'd enjoy playing when it's 35+ due to getting all hot and sweaty, but I can't imagine that 20 degrees or under can be very entertaining whether you're a fan or a player... It's definitely something they'll all remember for the rest of their lives!

Wunderground forecast has kickoff time as being partly cloudy and 18. So probably the snow will let up in plenty of time to clear the field.

So not another Ice Bowl then.

"Most epic melt down on this board ever" award?

Nah, wait till the Pokes win...

Nah, wait till the Pokes win...

Why would there be a meltdown? They're favored by double digits.

Why would there be a meltdown? They're favored by double digits.

Have you not read his posts? Haha

That's from September. Anything a bit more current?

Point is that a few years ago the NCAA had Cam Cameron, a bag of money, and Auburn University in their coloring book, but couldn't connect the dots for what would have been an epic crushing. You really, really think they're going to make some sort of epic, sweeping event out of a bunch of innuendo from taped interviews from guys that played at OSU up to a decade ago?

C'mon, ou48A, you're too smart for that. You know as well as I do that there may well be a hand slap at some point in time for the sake of public consumption, but the practical chances of anything more extreme coming out of this are somewhere between slim and none.

As Mr. Rogers once said, "Scary bad wishes don't make things come true."

In more relevant news, How 'Bout Them Duke Footballin' Blue Devils?? They're gonna get crushed by FSU, but they won a division in the ACC...

I lived in the Raleigh metro for several years and you could see the Duke football program coming. Being from OK, I like going to my college football games (both OSU & OU alum) and could never find the time to get tickets to NC State or UNC. NC State were fanatics like OU fans (I can say that, I did go there) and tickets were hard to get. UNC was more laid-back, but would not support team unless they won (like OSU fans) - but missed the few times I wanted to go. I forced my family to go to a ECU game when Tulsa visited (and won) - great football town in eastern N. Carolina. But Duke was easiest to go to, close and cheap seats. Always played hard, just not enough talent depth. The Triangle (Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill) is a great college sports town. Duke and UNC are on the same highway - just 10 miles (or so) north and south. Same with UNC - NC State, 30 miles east and west. Three major ACC schools in the same metro about the same size as OKC. Also several other Universities in the metro - one even plays division 1 football (their version of UCO). Watching Duke this year has been fun. The only downside to Raleigh college sports is they felt there was no real sports west of the mountains (Appalachian) - perhaps this came from being basketball centered.

Video of stadium. Field got cleared of 3" of snow. Volunteers were asked to help clean up the seats. Don't know if that ever got finished:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IzeW-Wn8RA

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba1MrQ4CUAAtdE9.jpg

It's going to be interesting to see how the conditions affect each team...
Both teams will be playing in the same conditions. Both teams practice and live in the same climate. It will affect both teams the same. If the Miami Dolphins go play in Green Bay in December I can see an advantage for the cold weather team when both teams live in the same area, not so much.

I will be at the game tomorrow. I have not been to a bedlam game since I went to school at OSU and that was the ice bowl. Any tips on how to keep warm?

I will be at the game tomorrow. I have not been to a bedlam game since I went to school at OSU and that was the ice bowl. Any tips on how to keep warm?

I left at halftime to watch on TV. If the sun is out (unlike Ice bowl) a seat on the north stands could be quite a bit warmer. Now, with the closed end and boxes above, the sun will be behind the stands at a much earlier time than 'in the old days'. Seating near the top will give you the longest sun exposure. Otherwise, something to sit on (atop the aluminum), layers, gloves, double socks (keep the feet, hands, and ears warm) and sock cap to pull over ears. The time will help, with the sun going down early, the heat of the day should be between noon and 5.

Thanks for the tips. Our seats are in the end zone which is great in early September but not so much in December.

Have you not read his posts? Haha

Epic

AN UNDERSTATEMENT:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsCADbB_Gtc