Oklahoma State vs. Baylor 2nd Half


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvD47ZWbNQM

Is it just me or are you OU fans still living the Barry Switzer days? Bedlam is not so much strictly OU taking care of business anymore. OU is not the powerhouse it used to be. Geez, I've never seen your fan base divided so much against a head coach or a coordinator or a starter because you guys just aren't that dominate anymore. We're in the present, not the past BS--pun intended, lol.

And please don't tell me about how you've been to four national championship games under Bob Stoops, because lil brother is all aware of your prestigious football history. Key word, "history"...

Did Switzer coach the last 10 years? 9-1 in the last 10. Worse for osu then the historical average

Did Switzer coach the last 10 years? 9-1 in the last 10. Worse for osu then the historical average

:congrats::congrats::congrats::lame:

It's this type of sour grapes fandom I'll never understand. I've never been one to root for a spoiler. I'm an OSU fan, but in years where OU is in the title hunt, and there's no upside for OSU, I root for OU to win bedlam.

I see no problem rooting for an OU win merely as a supporter of OU, but to root for it to spoil OSU's season? Really?

Im not rooting for OU to spoil OSU's anything....just rooting for OU to win....that's all. Just like all the pokes were rooting for OSU to beat Baylor and not to spoil their season, right?

Not Big XII but funny nonetheless
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Watching Northern illinois tonight. They are decent but no way they are better than sooo many ranked below them.

I am confused, I thought the Oklahoma State-Sooners game is this Saturday but since when the Sooners have 2 byes? Did it start this year?

I am confused, I thought the Oklahoma State-Sooners game is this Saturday but since when the Sooners have 2 byes? Did it start this year?

3 actually Sept 21 Nov 2 and this weekend

Yep and same for OSU so like with your game against Baylor we both have two weeks to prepare for the game which as Stoops stated on the radio they were going to watch some film then let the kids go for TG then have them come back early Sunday morning and prepare for December 7th.

Not Big XII but funny nonetheless
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My Gator co-worker said that play typifies the general state of the program under Coach Boom.


I am confused, I thought the Oklahoma State-Sooners game is this Saturday but since when the Sooners have 2 byes? Did it start this year?
The Big 12 Championship game no longer being played added an open week into the schedule. Otherwise the season ends this weekend like it does for Tech against Texas on Thanksgiving night.

Uh Go Pokes

Early weather predictions are for frigid weather with possible winter conditions as well. Hopefully that will change as we get closer.

Uh Go PokesNope. Boomer Sooner

Nope. Boomer Sooner

"Boomer Sooner"?? What business does that odd term have coming from Norman? The question is pertinent to ask, because in 1884 Boomer movement leader David Payne with his wife and followers illegally attempted to settle Stillwater, until being expelled by federal troops and therefore were the very first Sooners. Later on, reflective of that Sooner status, Payne's widowed wife was denied her claim made from participating in the Land Run of 1889. The resulting grudge family members held is why it took over 100 years before Payne could be moved and buried in the Oklahoma county named after him. Oklahoma history can be interesting.

Why. Well #1 we are the sooner state. And #2 OU is the flagship university in the state.

Why. Well #1 we are the sooner state. And #2 OU is the flagship university in the state.

Because of a handful of football titles? Or is there some other reason that makes it the flagship? Surely it's not the negligible difference in academics?

This is almost as annoying as OSU/Michigan...but the fans on both sides there are way more arrogant and annoying. Here it just seems to be more so one sides. Humble fans on one end, a handle full of arrogant idiots on the other. Eh, could be worse like I said. :)

Because of a handful of football titles? Or is there some other reason that makes it the flagship? Surely it's not the negligible difference in academics?

Has nothing to do with sports.

OU fans might as well wonder what business does Stillwater have with having a Boomer Rd., a Boomer Lake, and a Boomer Lake Park. So it's tit for tat and only in Oklahoma.

OU fans might as well wonder what business does Stillwater have with having a Boomer Rd., a Boomer Lake, and a Boomer Lake Park. So it's tit for tat and only in Oklahoma.

Not to mention Stillwater is in Payne County which is named for a known land run sooner...

Not to mention Stillwater is in Payne County which is named for a known land run sooner...

I didn't respond in the weather thread but I will here. The game next weekend will not be a sell out because osu doesn't sell single game tickets to the OU game as a way to boost season ticket sales. The only single game tickets are those that went to The visiting team per conf rules.

I didn't respond in the weather thread but I will here. The game next weekend will not be a sell out because osu doesn't sell single game tickets to the OU game as a way to boost season ticket sales. The only single game tickets are those that went to The visiting team per conf rules.

You can get a single game ticket online or through cell phone apps but it all just depends on how much you want to pay. I saw a single game ticket for $212+...

But not from osu. Thus it will not be a sell out

But not from osu. Thus it will not be a sell out

Yes because it is the premium game. I know lol

Watching tOSU/Michigan today just makes me want the Big Ten and Big 12 to combine or at least see OU and OSU make the jump. Both schools would probably tear the conference up a good deal.

Watching tOSU/Michigan today just makes me want the Big Ten and Big 12 to combine or at least see OU and OSU make the jump. Both schools would probably tear the conference up a good deal.The B1G will never take OSUOK due to their comparatively tiny footprint and academic issues. When Boren tried to sale OU and OSU to the B1G the offer was firmly rejected by the B1G.
However since then the B1G has reportedly done their homework on OU and KU. They would probably take OU if the deal also included Texas and KU which is what I expect to happen in about 6 to 10 years. If not OU, UT, KU and Tech will probably move to the PAC.. There is just too much money being left on the table by these university’s for a major move not to eventually be made.

Because of a handful of football titles? Or is there some other reason that makes it the flagship? Surely it's not the negligible difference in academics?
Negligible? Lololol no

Why. Well #1 we are the sooner state. And #2 OU is the flagship university in the state.

That's breaking news.

OSU has more students and programs. Higher GRE scores as well. OSU's campus is arguably more impressive.

That's breaking news.

OSU has more students and programs. Higher GRE scores as well. OSU's campus is arguably more impressive.

Could you provide a link to the GRE scores, student population, and programs? Just curious where you got the info.

Most academic smack consists of overgeneralizations and elitism. The basis for claiming academic superiority on something like GRE scores proves what? Different universities have different strengths that are well suited for different students. Some students are better served at OU, some OU, some Harvard, and some UCO. Many of these reasons are not measurable. My education at OU changed who I was as a person, citizen, and professional. I hope everyone finds what they need at whatever university (or other avenue) they choose. In sum, football smack is fun. Academic smack is often silly and insulting. Sorry. I'll get off my soapbox.

The B1G will never take OSUOK due to their comparatively tiny footprint.

What tiny footprint? OSU's 60,000 capacity Boone Pickens Stadium isn't big enough for the biggest conferences? Or from not having a 50,000 student campus?

That's breaking news.

OSU has more students and programs. Higher GRE scores as well. OSU's campus is arguably more impressive.

And has a bigger tradition of winning championships and runnerups in sports overall. Completion of OSU's athletic village will make its sports program more impressive.

I think he is talking about TV views/fan footprint.

I think he is talking about TV views/fan footprint.

Yep that's exactly right....

In spite of OSU being at a high water mark OSU doesn’t garner very good TV ratings, comparatively speaking. OSU has a small stadium that is rarely full. Researcher has suggested that OSU fans are out numbered in their own home state by gigantic margin's...OSU needs to play a helmet school nearly every year, but only occasionally has OSU stepped outside the conference to play a high profile traditional team..... All this = tiny OSU footprint, comparatively speaking.
Someday OSU will have several years of a down period and all this^ will likely be much less than it is now.

To the other major conferences OSU amounts to another mouth to feed and not worth the risk of taking.

There are other issues that work against OSU.... For many it's not a travel friendly place to get to. Right or wrong OSU academics are seen as a major liability by some in other conferences... If any of the SI stuff is true about the OSU academics (not to mention the other stuff) no major conference would dare touch OSU just based on that for many, many years. It's unfair IMHO, but its still a fact, there is a political side to this at many of the liberal university’s where Boone Pickens is the face of big oil and where both are hated with a passion. Heck, you can see the hate for big oil right here on this board by those who are so susceptible to the pushers of fear.

And has a bigger tradition of winning championships and runnerups in sports overall. Completion of OSU's athletic village will make its sports program more impressive.

I thought that this village was put on the back burner ?

There are other issues that work against OSU.... For many it's not a travel friendly place to get to. Right or wrong OSU academics are seen as a major liability by some in other conferences... If any of the SI stuff is true about the OSU academics (not to mention the other stuff) no major conference would dare touch OSU just based on that for many, many years.
Please dont act like OSU will be held back by academics but OU would not. Both are not in US News and World Report's top 100 colleges so its not like OU is some superior academic institution.

And pretty sure the SI article has been forgot about and certainly wouldnt matter in re-alignment talks.

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I thought that this village was put on the back burner ?

Indoor practice facility has been completed. Women's soccer facilities have been completed. Tennis center is nearing completion. I believe plans for new baseball stadium have been finalized and fund raising is beginning. Not sure what else is on the drawing board.

Not only has the SI article been forgotten about, but Thayer Evans has gone completely dark and MIA. No official tweets on his SI twitter since the article, and no major stories. I have a feeling that SI is just waiting out his contract. The entire thing turned into a joke, and those who jumped on it with dripping saliva are even bigger jokes.

In spite of OSU being at a high water mark OSU doesn’t garner very good TV ratings, comparatively speaking. OSU has a small stadium that is rarely full. Researcher has suggested that OSU fans are out numbered in their own home state by gigantic margin's...OSU needs to play a helmet school nearly every year, but only occasionally has OSU stepped outside the conference to play a high profile traditional team..... All this = tiny OSU footprint, comparatively speaking.
Someday OSU will have several years of a down period and all this^ will likely be much less than it is now.

To the other major conferences OSU amounts to another mouth to feed and not worth the risk of taking.

I realize that I'm quoting OU48A, but I don't know that I agree. OSU cranks out the grads at about the same rate as OU, and if that's where the fan base comes from, there are probably just as many of them as OU fans. Further, outside of the metro, OSU is a respected school, often moreso than OU. Also, having "another mouth to feed" is also a lot like having another foot soldier to make the top tier stand out. How great would the big "12" be if the only teams were the "great" OU, KU, and Longhorn network? I concede that OSU doesn't have the storied history of titles that OU does, but they still have a loyal following. I also can't believe that every other team in the B1G has a better academic standing than OSU. Finally, it can't be any harder to get to OSU than it is to OU (on those 6 days a year when Lindsay completely fails as is stated in other threads).

I went to OSU, and I certainly can agree that it's off the beaten path. Less so than Texas A&M and some other schools I can name. I don't think it's a factor.

On academics, to be honest, OU consistently gets ranked significantly higher. I don't know the details on the ranking, but know that it's there. I can say however that there is always the apple and oranges problem. My son is getting ready to enter OSU for Engineering, for example, and there's not a regional school that is better. MIT calls their competitive engineering team "Beat OSU" for a reason.

There are other issues that work against OSU.... For many it's not a travel friendly place to get to. Right or wrong OSU academics are seen as a major liability by some in other conferences... If any of the SI stuff is true about the OSU academics (not to mention the other stuff) no major conference would dare touch OSU just based on that for many, many years. It's unfair IMHO, but its still a fact, there is a political side to this at many of the liberal university’s where Boone Pickens is the face of big oil and where both are hated with a passion. Heck, you can see the hate for big oil right here on this board by those who are so susceptible to the pushers of fear.

When other conferences look at schools they don't just look at their sports department. That said, you need to eat crow for this comment. OSU has high academic standards outside of the athletic department whether the SI article is true or not.

I realize that I'm quoting OU48A, but I don't know that I agree. OSU cranks out the grads at about the same rate as OU, and if that's where the fan base comes from, there are probably just as many of them as OU fans. Further, outside of the metro, OSU is a respected school, often moreso than OU. Also, having "another mouth to feed" is also a lot like having another foot soldier to make the top tier stand out. How great would the big "12" be if the only teams were the "great" OU, KU, and Longhorn network? I concede that OSU doesn't have the storied history of titles that OU does, but they still have a loyal following. I also can't believe that every other team in the B1G has a better academic standing than OSU. Finally, it can't be any harder to get to OSU than it is to OU (on those 6 days a year when Lindsay completely fails as is stated in other threads).

A pretty recent survey showed that 90% of Oklahomans are OU fans(clearly some people are fans of both). And the only county that is solid osu is Payne

A pretty recent survey showed that 90% of Oklahomans are OU fans(clearly some people are fans of both). And the only county that is solid osu is Payne

That's like Texas with republican & democrat counties lol.

It is pretty clear that osu has a small fan base they have 1 sell out all time in a 60k stadium

Please dont act like OSU will be held back by academics but OU would not. Both are not in US News and World Report's top 100 colleges so its not like OU is some superior academic institution.


I will act that way because its a basic fact as determined by independent review!
As so often the case you are just pain wrong about basic fundamental facts and look at anything about OSU with a very prejudicial view point. Below are the facts

“The University of Oklahoma is classified by the Carnegie Foundation as a Very High Research institution, placing it in the highest tier of research universities in the nation. This designation is one of the most important measures that distinguish among institutions of higher education, and as [B]the only Very High Research university in the stateOU is a foundational engine for economic growth because proximity to an outstanding research university is among the most important factors in business start-up or relocation decisions.

“During just the past three years, research expenditures from all Federal agencies combined have increased by more than 50%.*
OU’s share of higher education research expenditures in Oklahoma is 54%,”

Welcome to OU Research | Research Norman & Tulsa Campuses (http://vpr-norman.ou.edu/welcome-ou-research)


In the eye's of those who count around the nation on academic conference realignment issues this puts OU in a separate and more desirable category than OSU.... The OU's research dollar amount is already more than several existing AAU members. For OU AAU membership is a very realistic goal and probably not that far away. Many in B1G territory who pay very close attention to these thing have said OU is close enough.

But by far the biggest separator is the fact that the historical TV ratings of OSU are poor where as OU's are in the top 10 year after year after year......In fact for about 30 or so years OU had the top TV ratings of all university’s,,,,,,,
The conference officials study all of this and they know that OU far more desirable to any new conference than your pokes.

Not only has the SI article been forgotten about, but Thayer Evans has gone completely dark and MIA. No official tweets on his SI twitter since the article, and no major stories. I have a feeling that SI is just waiting out his contract. The entire thing turned into a joke, and those who jumped on it with dripping saliva are even bigger jokes.



Then please tell us why NCAA investigators have been in Stillwater?
Or is that fact a poke joke coming from the OSU administration?

That's like Texas with republican & democrat counties lol.

No, its part of the tiny OSU footprint that makes OSU not very desirable to other major conferences.

Then please tell us why NCAA investigators have been in Stillwater?
Or is that fact a poke joke coming from the OSU administration?

You mean from back in September when they were in CYA mode, or do you have anything newer or valid? Or still just foaming desperate to keep the top spot in OK?

It is pretty clear that osu has a small fan base they have 1 sell out all time in a 60k stadium

Well not to mention the simple fact that tickets aren't all the same price like they are at Owen Field. That'd be awfully nice. The 10% of loyal oSu fans have to pay for the tradition that they're only now trying to build.

You mean from back in September when they were in CYA mode, or do you have anything newer or valid? Or still just foaming desperate to keep the top spot in OK?Rather you care to admit it or not both OSU and the NCAA are in the process of conducting a very serious investigation that was caused by the SI story..What I hear is that we will know more late this winter of in the spring?
To say that the SI story has been forgotten is about as ridiculous as it get's because that's a lie.
What investigators find and how much punishment OSU receives is an entirely difference matter?
Those folks won't swallow the spin as you have.These are very serious people.

No, its part of the tiny OSU footprint that makes OSU not very desirable to other major conferences.

I don't think you're getting the metaphor. If shown the amount of red counties in Texas after the Obama vote, all of them were red except for the county that Austin is in, which was blue. Capisce? smh


Rather you care to admit it or not both OSU and the NCAA are in the process of conducting a very serious investigation that was caused by the SI story..What I hear is that we will know more late this winter of in the spring?
To say that the SI story has been forgotten is about as ridiculous as it get's because that's a lie.
What investigators find and how much punishment OSU receives is an entirely difference matter?
Those folks won't swallow the spin as you have.These are very serious people.

Funny thing there... Are you, like, on the mailing list for insider news on the NCAA investigation? Can't imagine anyone would share any details with a person who hides behind a screen name who also can't say ONE positive thing about OSU PERIOD.

So with that said, I will not believe you. The media would be talking about this if there was any shred of evidence toward what you allude.

Rather you care to admit it or not both OSU and the NCAA are in the process of conducting a very serious investigation that was caused by the SI story..What I hear is that we will know more late this winter of in the spring?
To say that the SI story has been forgotten is about as ridiculous as it get's because that's a lie.
What investigators find and how much punishment OSU receives is an entirely difference matter?
Those folks won't swallow the spin as you have.These are very serious people.

The spin that has cost Thayer all his credibility, and has caused him to be put on blackout? Really?

And I guess the answer is "no" nothing besides guesses based on the joke SI article. No real information. As normal.

And I guess the answer is "no" nothing besides guesses based on the joke SI article. No real information. As normal.

He's offline. Probably searching other outlets to post more references, lol.

I get rivalries and such, but at some point it just gets annoying. When it spills off the playing field.

The spin that has cost Thayer all his credibility, and has caused him to be put on blackout? Really?

And that doesn’t change a single thing about the fact that OSU is under investigation by the NCAA..

The NCAA will be able to look around in places that SI could not.
What they find could be very interesting.
If its even 5% of what SI has on tape, its bad news for the pokes.

And that doesn’t change a single thing about the fact that OSU is under investigation by the NCAA..

The NCAA will be able to look around in places that SI could not.
What they find could be very interesting.
If its even 5% of what SI has on tape, its bad news for the pokes.

How come you're the only one round these parts that continues to bring up the investigation? I get it, it's Bedlam Week..you wanna rustle a few feathers......but no one really cares until the cards are laid down and the findings are revealed. Just go in a different direction broskie... It's old.

How come you're the only one round these parts that continues to bring up the investigation? I get it, it's Bedlam Week..you wanna rustle a few feathers......but no one really cares until the cards are laid down and the findings are revealed. Just go in a different direction broskie... It's old.

The rest of the normal OU fans would like to apologize and say he doesn't speak or represent us. Every group has to have that crazy nut jobs that you just have to point and laugh at.

And that doesn’t change a single thing about the fact that OSU is under investigation by the NCAA..

The NCAA will be able to look around in places that SI could not.
What they find could be very interesting.
If its even 5% of what SI has on tape, its bad news for the pokes.

Are they? I know OSU hired a former NCAA guy to help them look into this. Where is the news on the NCAA investigation? Do you have some facts to provide here?

The rest of the normal OU fans would like to apologize and say he doesn't speak or represent us. Every group has to have that crazy nut jobs that you just have to point and laugh at.

Screw you for not dealing in extremely well know facts!

Are they? I know OSU hired a former NCAA guy to help them look into this. Where is the news on the NCAA investigation? Do you have some facts to provide here?

I'm not aware of a "formal inquiry."

Are they? I know OSU hired a former NCAA guy to help them look into this. Where is the news on the NCAA investigation? Do you have some facts to provide here?

Now your coming around to the reality !
Yes, OSU did hire a former investigator to investigate this.
But that's not forgetting about this as you said everybody had done.