Good observation, zookeeper--there was better TALENT on the other side of the ball. We need to face reality in that Baylor has a better football team.


Oh, how well we remember going to Waco and feasting on Bear meat. Times we use to put 50 to 70 points on the Bears and the stadium was full of crimson & cream--it was like a home away from home. Now, all of that has changed and the shoe is on the other foot.

Oklahoma offensive line couldn't move or open any holes; that was evident tonight.

We got our heads served on a gold platter by a very impressive Baylor team who many thought were overrated. The OU defense did all they could to contain the high octane offense and explosive passing attack put on by the Bears.

Let's get away from the blame-game. We got beat by a better football team...

Give credit to Baylor University, they are a very outstanding football team.
It goes to show what hiring the coach and having the administration and big donors all aligned can do. What Briles has built there can be sustained because of how he built his entire career. He is well liked by high school coaches in Texas because he was one for 20+ years, then he was a college assistant before getting the head coaching job at Houston. He has maintained those relationships through the years and it shows in the recruiting. He has been going against the bigger names and getting players. I also think he stays at Baylor, he has built something there and he doesn't have to deal with a whole lot of extra stuff like he would at a Texas.

A college football game on Thursday night? How stupid is that?

I thought Mike Stoops had a great defensive game plan. The young linebackers played surprisingly well. The DBs played well until the outcome of the game was clear.

I have not bashed Heupel, and I'm not sure there's much any OC can do with the QBs we have right now, but he deserves most of the blame tonight. That said, there were some interesting wrinkles and very imaginative plays called, we just don't have the QB to execute them.

I loved them bringing Knight in on some plays, but was dismayed they would not let him complete a series. Blake is simply not fast enough to run the zone read, read option, or traditional option. Knight is. The wrinkle of having him play seemed half baked given that they wouldn't commit to keeping him on the field.

What has become of Kendall Thompson? Has the guy withdrawn from school? Was he caught canoodling with Carol? What are they doing with this guy? We have nothing left to lose at this point in the season. Why not play KT? My only thought is that he's really not recovered from his foot injury (and this is quite plausible given the fact that Stoops openly lies about injuries).

We can blame the offensive coordinator, but the defense was bad, too. I just see better TALENT on the other side of the ball.

The defense played great. If the offense could have done anything we would have had a football game, a game we might have had a chance to win. I knew that with all the stops and failure to score that Baylor would eventually put it together, as they did. This loss was on the offense.

Bell making Landry Jones look like Joe Montana.

If Jones had had a defense this good he would have looked like Joe Montana. Also, if Jones were still on campus OU would probably be undefeated right now.

If Jones had had a defense this good he would have looked like Joe Montana. Also, if Jones were still on campus OU would probably be undefeated right now.

Not behind this offensive line. Baylor pretty thoroughly whooped us in the trenches and no skill players could have bailed us out of that game. When your RB is met in the backfield every time he gets the ball, you're not going to win the game.

I know I'll get roasted for this but I truly believe OU will not get back to being a national powerhouse with stoops there.

I know I'll get roasted for this but I truly believe OU will not get back to being a national powerhouse with stoops there.

My wife has been saying this for a couple of years now and I now agree. I brought marshmallows so we can get roasted together.

Good observation, zookeeper--there was better TALENT on the other side of the ball. We need to face reality in that Baylor has a better football team.


Oh, how well we remember going to Waco and feasting on Bear meat. Times we use to put 50 to 70 points on the Bears and the stadium was full of crimson & cream--it was like a home away from home. Now, all of that has changed and the shoe is on the other foot.

Oklahoma offensive line couldn't move or open any holes; that was evident tonight.

We got our heads served on a gold platter by a very impressive Baylor team who many thought were overrated. The OU defense did all they could to contain the high octane offense and explosive passing attack put on by the Bears.

Let's get away from the blame-game. We got beat by a better football team...

Give credit to Baylor University, they are a very outstanding football team.

That is the obvious statement. Baylor was being nice to OU and not scoring 60 points. The question of the day is "Why is Baylor that much better" ? This is my biggest gripe. What we saw was the little difference in recruiting / coaching / injuries / facilities make on an 85 man roster. The balance of football "power" can swing very quickly when you take things for granted.

Injuries happen and the kill the chances for a run at the NC, but a lack of talent depth is a different issue. Their 3rd string RB lit us up. That average QB from Baylor made it look too easy.

Who was the brain child that agreed to playing on Thursday night? ...why do we want to be put in that situation and give a Baylor / T Tech or any other mid-level school the opportunity to make this their "BLACKOUT" against slaying the OU Football giant? ...this was the dumbest idea since playing BYU on opening day at Jerry's World in Dallas.

Joe C. , you blew this one too.

My wife has been saying this for a couple of years now and I now agree. I brought marshmallows so we can get roasted together.

At least for the next 4 years, we will not be relavant. We don't have a NC calibur QB on campus today. The receivers are weak. The receivers coach needs to get with it or get his papers ready. Why don't we have a 6'5" - tight end that can catch?

The state of Oklahoma is filled w/ these guys and we have Greene? ...Bob needs to look at this glaring issue.

How far up The College Coach's Pay Scale is Mr. Stoops?
Maybe he has been spending too much money on laurels upon which to rest?

In retrospect...

1999 7–5
2000 13–0 Won NC
2001 11–2
2002 12–2
2003 12–2 Lost NC
2004 12–1 Lost NC
2005 8–4
2006 11–3
2007 11–3
2008 12–2 Lost NC
2009 8–5
2010 12–2
2011 10–3
2012 10–3
2013 7–2

So it looks like we could be headed for a 2005/2009 season but with no NC games the year before.

This is one of the main reasons we have to build a Top 5 Stadium w/ every bell & whistle available. The landscape of college football is changing. If we don't stay "ahead" of this trend, we will be like Nebraska. ...a good story of yesterday.

I say this primarilly because of the 3.5 Mil population base. When we were just fighting between UT and A&M for Texas recruits, it was sustainable. But now, we are struggling to keep up with Baylor ??? This was not a team w/ a great QB ( RG3 ) and we couldn't catch him. This was an overall beating. We got beat by the Offense, Defense, Out-coached, and punt team.

Who was the brain child that agreed to playing on Thursday night? ...why do we want to be put in that situation and give a Baylor / T Tech or any other mid-level school the opportunity to make this their "BLACKOUT" against slaying the OU Football giant? ...this was the dumbest idea since playing BYU on opening day at Jerry's World in Dallas.

Joe C. , you blew this one too.Playing on Thursday night is a Big 12 TV contract deal that helps make each conference member millions of extra dollars... Joe C would have not played this game on Thursday if he could have avoided it but OU has contractual obligations to play a few Thursday night games. Next years ISU game will be on a Thursday

My wife has been saying this for a couple of years now and I now agree. I brought marshmallows so we can get roasted together.

Your wife is probably correct. We've made Stoops feel like an icon. He's definitely a great coach--what is needed is for him to bring someone on board who can recruit because we have definitely stepped off the turnip wagon in this area.

Now hear this; God help the man who replaces Saban at Alabama when that program begins its downward spiral and you start to find programs like Troy, Alabama and some of your non-traditional schools take the reins of collegiate football--it is going to be painful as the traditional powers in Alabama, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Indiana (Notre Dame) and California (USC) fade into the sunset...

Nebraska had its run, now Alabama is in the spotlight. When Dr. Tom Osborne moved aside, the Cornhuskers' started getting cobbed. It comes and goes in cycles.

Parity is alive and well in college football and we've got to find what it will take to keep us in the game.

Playing on Thursday night is a Big 12 TV contract deal that helps make each conference member millions of extra dollars... Joe C would have not played this game on Thursday if he could have avoided it but OU has contractual obligations to play a few Thursday night games. Next years ISU game will be on a Thursday

...how many Millions did that loss put us back? ...41 - 12 on Thursday Night against Baylor? Like I said, that was dumb. Please explain to me why we want to put money into the BIG 12, at the expense of OU?

We can't afford that kind of exposure.

...how many Millions did that loss put us back? ...41 - 12 on Thursday Night against Baylor? Like I said, that was dumb. Please explain to me why we want to put money into the BIG 12, at the expense of OU?

We can't afford that kind of exposure.

Those games on Thursday Nights are a LOSE / LOSE for OU. ISU next year has everything to gain. OU zero gain. Not a good call on Joe C's part. He should represent OU and not the Big 12.

I'm a huge OU fan but I also love seeing a team like Baylor come out of nowhere to gain national power. There is huge talk of the Baylor coach being wooed to move to U of Texas after the end of the year and if that happens, uh-oh........ I agree with some of the posting that the entire OU staff needs to step up their recruiting efforts. It seems that all year, our receivers have been making marginal defensive backfields look fantastic by not being able to get open. I don't know that much about offensive schemes but when I watch routes run by other teams vs. OU, there seems to be a lack of imagination. The DOK seems to have picked this up, too. Just not much offensive imagination and, yes, a couple of tight ends who can catch would be really useful in the red zone. What happened last night doesn't upset me because we simply got beat by a superior team. Texas upset me because they are NOT a better team.

Those games on Thursday Nights are a LOSE / LOSE for OU. ISU next year has everything to gain. OU zero gain. Not a good call on Joe C's part. He should represent OU and not the Big 12.

What you don't get is that even if Joe C said no, OU didn't have a choice useless OU actually left the Big 12 conference... Just about every team the Big 12 conference voted for the TV contract that included Thursday night games, because of the money.

A big part of OU's problems on the field is the below average recruiting that has been done over the past 5 years.... Its now showing up..... Stoops has replaced 5 coaches over the last 2 years. Hopefully these new coaches are able to recruit better players in the next 2 or 3 years and results will improve on the field in the coming years. Some have said the new coaches are pretty good recruiters?

Berry Trammel hit the nail on the head - Stoops overhauled his defensive staff last year. He's very likely going to have to make the same kind of hard evaluations on offense this year.

He *has* to know his offensive coordinator situation can't persist. It just can't. You cannot allow your OC to insist upon planning and calling an offense that requires a drop-back quarterback when you clearly do not have one. It's one thing to get angry at the OC when you have a bad game - hey, that's part of football.

But when you see on a repeated basis a gameplan that seems completely disconnected from either the opponent across the line from you, and worse, disconnected from the talent you have on the field, something's wrong. Perhaps Josh was pushed up the ladder too quickly. Perhaps Norvell needs to take over that duty. Something.

This was a really good Baylor team that deserved every bit of their win last night. But for OU to have had ten days to prepare and to have put out an offensive gameplan that made the Baylor defense look like the '85 Chicago Bears doesn't even make sense. It was, to be generous, mystifying nearly from the first play. OU just seems headed in a very shaky direction right now.

I seriously doubt the outcome would have been any different if this game was played on Saturday. That said, Im no fan of Thur/Fri night games either (OSU at ISU in 2011 still haunts me) and I dont see how they are much of a money maker. Someone explain to me how the conference benefits that much financially from a Thur night game on Fox Sports 1 when it goes up against another ESPN game and a NFL game? How is it so much more of a money maker than a normal televised game on Saturday? I dont get it. And once the NFL started having Thursday games every week, the exposure argument went out the window as well because the majority of casual football fans around the country are watching NFL over college.

The TV folks need programming... The Thursday night games fill a void for them. As a result the networks are willing to pay a disproportionate amount of money for them in their contracts... The university’s with money problems or exposure problems often like playing on Thursday... They see it as a way to help improve their programs.

What I don't like is night football in late November or December on the plains.

I think one thing we need to look at is that this week, every Big 12 game will be on TV. How often could we really say that before?

Having Fox Spots 1 available now definitely helps...but the Thursday night games give more room to get air time. Keep in mind the Big 12 isn't the only one doing this. The biggest game of the week, I would argue, was also last night out west in the PAC 12.

Well, sweet game for ya'll.

Moving on to other Big XII business since this thread is about Big XII football.

Oklahoma State, if after beating KU (not a given but should be a lock) and a hopeful win against Texas in Austin (we can only win against Mack Brown in Austin so we have a better chance there as history shows), should be hosting Game Day IF Baylor continues to take care of its business. That will be the biggest show in the Big XII in the near future if both teams keep doing what they were picked to do in Big XII play.

Will be interesting to see how Texas does this weekend on the road in Morgantown.


I concur with Jersey Boss (below me). Ya'll should just go to the SEC. Bedlam (which you all don't even consider a rivalry game) would end and that'd be just fine with me. Then OSU can seek repetitive championships in an otherwise weak conference and claim victory in crappy bowl games ;-)

This crying over Thursday night games is a loadda crap. Had we won it would have given us positive national exposure and it is another opportunity to present our product on a national forum. In the words of Al Davis, " Just win baby". The casual fan does not pay for the NFL network, so that position is a non-starter. Had OU been competitive, the ESPN game would not have been as big a draw. The Big 12 in case you haven't checked, is not a big draw this year. Let's do all we can to keep the league viable or just go SEC and be done with it.

The TV folks need programming... The Thursday night games fill a void for them. As a result the networks are willing to pay a disproportionate amount of money for them in their contracts... The university’s with money problems or exposure problems often like playing on Thursday... They see it as a way to help improve their programs.

What I don't like is night football in late November or December on the plains.

ESPN invented the Thurs nite game and place these low / mid level teams in there. OU is NOT that needy. Joe C signed something he should not have.

This crying over Thursday night games is a loadda crap. Had we won it would have given us positive national exposure and it is another opportunity to present our product on a national forum. In the words of Al Davis, " Just win baby". The casual fan does not pay for the NFL network, so that position is a non-starter. Had OU been competitive, the ESPN game would not have been as big a draw. The Big 12 in case you haven't checked, is not a big draw this year. Let's do all we can to keep the league viable or just go SEC and be done with it.

I'm not concerned w/ the Big 12, just OU. Joe C needs to ONLY look out for this. Never Thursday. Only Saturday's. We have earned that.

It's my undersanding the home team (Baylor), consulting with the league office, has the final say on dates and kickoff times (subject, of course, to broadcaster concurrence). If I'm correct, Joe Castiglione's spproval was not required.

If the NFL, including the Denver Broncos can play Thursday night, so can OU. OU is part of the Big 12 and can't make it as an Independent.

I'm not concerned w/ the Big 12, just OU. Joe C needs to ONLY look out for this. Never Thursday. Only Saturday's. We have earned that.

The Big 12 is LEAGALY required by contract to provide a certain number of Thursday / Friday night games to the TV networks (I believe this is 4 per year, but not 100% sure ).... Each team is legally required to play a certain number of these games over the life of the contract.

Joe C and OU didn’t not have any choice in the matter of playing some Thursday night games, except to withdraw from the conference where OU would most likely face the very same issue in another conference.

This crying over Thursday night games is a loadda crap. Had we won it would have given us positive national exposure and it is another opportunity to present our product on a national forum. In the words of Al Davis, " Just win baby". The casual fan does not pay for the NFL network, so that position is a non-starter. Had OU been competitive, the ESPN game would not have been as big a draw. The Big 12 in case you haven't checked, is not a big draw this year. Let's do all we can to keep the league viable or just go SEC and be done with it.

Does the casual fan pay for Fox Sports 1? Im not sure if FS1 is apart of a basic package but Im assuming its included, along with NFL network, in the Sports tier that I pay extra for. So if people have FS1, they probably also have NFL network. And if casual fans around the country werent watching NFL, they were certainly watching Oregon and Stanford on ESPN, which was hyped non stop leading up to it.

The added money is an argument but to me the exposure doesnt have as much value as it used to with another college game on ESPN and NFL playing as well.

I believe that FS1 is part of the basic package on many systems, I believe it is on Directv but I have Sports Pack as well. It was Speed that was changed to FS1, so if that was on a sports package on your provider I would imagine it would be as well until the next negotiations. Fox wants it to be on the same level as ESPN so look for it to shift to basic tier if it is on a sports tier now. Fox isn't going to pay the kind of money they are paying to have KU-ISU games on Thursday night, OU, Texas and OSU are going to have to play some Thursday night games, UT already did this season....and yes, the conference and home team approves what day the game is played, the visiting conference team has little option on that. There probably won't be a Thursday night game in Norman if OU doesn't want one. You know that Fox has probably already asked that question.

It wouldn't have mattered what day this game was played on, Baylor was just better this year. I also don't think Briles goes to Texas, I think he retires at Baylor. I do think UT contacts his agent to see if there is interest but from some of the stuff that I have heard he has no interest in going to UT at this time. He probably gets a healthy bump at Baylor from UT interest though. Drayton McLane needs somewhere to spend the money he made off the Astros sale other than just the new Baylor stadium.

I get Fox Sports 1 with my basic Verizon FIOS package.

It's funny how people forget that this was always going to be a rebuilding year for OU and that there were big question marks at QB. I've never understood the huge number of people that get so furious at the coaching staff and players when things don't go well.

Ups and downs are part of being loyal to any team and Sooner fans -- with the 90's excepted -- have been incredibly spoiled. I would expect next year to be better, and maybe even considerably so.

if we not gonna talk about anything other than ou, let me contribute...

how far do you think the dirt burglars will fall in the polls now that they got throttled?

It's funny how people forget that this was always going to be a rebuilding year for OU and that there were big question marks at QB. I've never understood the huge number of people that get so furious at the coaching staff and players when things don't go well.

Ups and downs are part of being loyal to any team and Sooner fans -- with the 90's excepted -- have been incredibly spoiled. I would expect next year to be better, and maybe even considerably so.

I think everyone got a little carried away after we beat Notre Dame. Yeah it got a huge monkey off this program's back, but this was not the Notre Dame of old, or even last year.

We were picked to finish fourth in the Big XII...we will likely finish around 4th, maybe 3rd if we are lucky. So no huge shock here. I am a bit disappointed to see how much our offense has atrophied though.

The defense played great. If the offense could have done anything we would have had a football game, a game we might have had a chance to win. I knew that with all the stops and failure to score that Baylor would eventually put it together, as they did. This loss was on the offense.

This defense gave up 41 points w/ an average QB & a 3rd string RB. Now, how was that able to happen? ...yes, defense was OK, but no great shakes either.

Offense, Top Down. This was terrible. HC / All the Offensive coaches need to own this 12 points.

A big part of OU's problems on the field is the below average recruiting that has been done over the past 5 years.... Its now showing up..... Stoops has replaced 5 coaches over the last 2 years. Hopefully these new coaches are able to recruit better players in the next 2 or 3 years and results will improve on the field in the coming years. Some have said the new coaches are pretty good recruiters?

Don't forget the injuries to our key players every single year, like clock work.

That is the obvious statement. Baylor was being nice to OU and not scoring 60 points. The question of the day is "Why is Baylor that much better" ? This is my biggest gripe. What we saw was the little difference in recruiting / coaching / injuries / facilities make on an 85 man roster. The balance of football "power" can swing very quickly when you take things for granted.

Injuries happen and the kill the chances for a run at the NC, but a lack of talent depth is a different issue. Their 3rd string RB lit us up. That average QB from Baylor made it look too easy.

We'll see if they can sustain it. Briles is great but its hard to stay on top. They're having a dream season.

It's Heupel... He needs to go.

He needs to find a way ( w/in 48 hrs. ) to put this offense in a postion of "being good at something". We can't run. We can't throw. Can't block. Can't catch. Can't get the play off.

It also goes to show exactly how good Landry Jones was.

People were critical but he's on a pro roster for very good reasons.

He needs to find a way ( w/in 48 hrs. ) to put this offense in a postion of "being good at something". We can't run. We can't throw. Can't block. Can't catch. Can't get the play off.

I've racked my brain thinking about this. We don't have the QB or a dominant line / TE to run an Alabama pro style (and we lost our best run blocker). We don't have the QB to run a pass-first spread offense. The wrong QB is playing if we want to run a read option / zone read spread offense. The QB who can run that is an even worse passer than the starter, who is too slow to run zone read and also cannot pass. Seriously, what offense do you run?

Hopefully Kendall Thompson is a stud -- or Cody Thomas. Because I'm not feeling overly optimistic about next year either.

It also goes to show exactly how good Landry Jones was.

People were critical but he's on a pro roster for very good reasons.

If Jones had been graced with a serviceable run game and defense, we would have been tltle contenders.

This is one of the main reasons we have to build a Top 5 Stadium w/ every bell & whistle available. The landscape of college football is changing. If we don't stay "ahead" of this trend, we will be like Nebraska. ...a good story of yesterday.

I say this primarilly because of the 3.5 Mil population base. When we were just fighting between UT and A&M for Texas recruits, it was sustainable. But now, we are struggling to keep up with Baylor ??? This was not a team w/ a great QB ( RG3 ) and we couldn't catch him. This was an overall beating. We got beat by the Offense, Defense, Out-coached, and punt team.

If we had won on Thursday night, there wouldn't an argument. Good teams will win on any night.

Agee, we're got to expand our stadium and OU fans have got to make Oklahoma Memorial Stadium the infamous 'Snake Pit' it use to be.



A big part of OU's problems on the field is the below average recruiting that has been done over the past 5 years.... Its now showing up..... Stoops has replaced 5 coaches over the last 2 years. Hopefully these new coaches are able to recruit better players in the next 2 or 3 years and results will improve on the field in the coming years. Some have said the new coaches are pretty good recruiters?

ou48A:

I know you'll hang in there and support our Oklahoma Sooners.

Replacing those coaches was a good move and it will take time to pay dividends.

No one is more down on themselves than the team and coaching staff. They really tried--Baylor was just more than what we thought they were. True they hadn't played anyone; however, Baylor University Bear's football team is definitely not OVERRATED!

So-called Sooner fans: Awake, we just got beat by a better team. Stop looking for excuses...

Go Oklahoma Sooners! True, Sooner fans are with you WIN OR LOSE...

If we had won on Thursday night, there wouldn't an argument. Good teams will win on any night.

Agee, we're got to expand our stadium and OU fans have got to make Oklahoma Memorial Stadium the infamous 'Snake Pit' it use to be.




ou48A:

I know you'll hang in there and support our Oklahoma Sooners.

Replacing those coaches was a good move and it will take time to pay dividends.

No one is more down on themselves than the team and coaching staff. They really tried--Baylor was just more than what we thought they were. True they hadn't played anyone; however, Baylor University Bear's football team is definitely not OVERRATED!

So-called Sooner fans: Awake, we just got beat by a better team. Stop looking for excuses...

Go Oklahoma Sooners! True, Sooner fans are with you WIN OR LOSE...

This is not about "not enough rah rah". This is about fixing the flat on your 2013 Corvette. It's still a very nice vette, but we need to get that flat fixed so we can keep going down the road. Boomer.

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Our home game vs. Iowa State on Nov. 16 will kick off at 11 a.m. CT and be televised on @FOXSports1.

If we had won on Thursday night, there wouldn't an argument. Good teams will win on any night.

Agee, we're got to expand our stadium and OU fans have got to make Oklahoma Memorial Stadium the infamous 'Snake Pit' it use to be.




ou48A:

I know you'll hang in there and support our Oklahoma Sooners.

Replacing those coaches was a good move and it will take time to pay dividends.

No one is more down on themselves than the team and coaching staff. They really tried--Baylor was just more than what we thought they were. True they hadn't played anyone; however, Baylor University Bear's football team is definitely not OVERRATED!

So-called Sooner fans: Awake, we just got beat by a better team. Stop looking for excuses...

Go Oklahoma Sooners! True, Sooner fans are with you WIN OR LOSE...

As long as the grace of God grants me the ability to attend home OU football games I will attend them.
Like most, this doesn’t mean I like everything I see or believe everything is being done right... But I usually find a way to have a pretty good time win or lose.

The only good thing about those down years was the fan base was pretty much down to those who really cared.... In many ways those fans were and still are more enjoyable fans to spend time with than the fans who make so much noise jumping on and off the bandwagon with the teams fortunes.
But I'm on the Sooner bandwagon for life.

Don't forget that OSU plays tomorrow at 3:30pm on Fox Sports 1!

Don't forget that OSU plays tomorrow at 3:30pm on Fox Sports 1!

Now who does OSU play this week? and where is the game?

Now who does OSU play this week? and where is the game?

Kansas, at home. What's your point?

Kansas, at home. What's your point?

No point, just curious.
That shouldn’t be much of a game

No point, just curious.
That shouldn’t be much of a game

Just hoping they're not looking ahead to Texas or it could get interesting..like OU playing at KU. Got down 13-0 before they rolled. Texas beat em by 22. We "should" be good ;-)

It's funny how people forget that this was always going to be a rebuilding year for OU and that there were big question marks at QB.

What are they rebuilding from?

2010 12–2
2011 10–3
2012 10–3

What are they rebuilding from?

2010 12–2
2011 10–3
2012 10–3

"Rebuilding" usually happens when you lose a four-year starter at QB. We also lost 2/3 of the Cali kids who were our star recruits. So, this was a bit of a rebuilding year, but not a big one.

What are they rebuilding from?

2010 12–2
2011 10–3
2012 10–3

THIS season was to be rebuilding, which commonly means you are below you usual level of talent and experience, which has certainly proven to be the case.

THIS season was to be rebuilding, which commonly means you are below you usual level of talent and experience, which has certainly proven to be the case.

Practically every team in the Big XII is rebuilding after the departure of many stellar quarterbacks. That's why the Big XII is down and that's why the Fiesta Bowl will probably be the highest bowl bid to a Big XII team.

Practically every team in the Big XII is rebuilding after the departure of many stellar quarterbacks. That's why the Big XII is down and that's why the Fiesta Bowl will probably be the highest bowl bid to a Big XII team.

Yup I agree as well. Even an unbeaten Baylor won't be able to jump Stanford and FSU. Ohio State is possible since they have a really weak schedule to finish out the year.

The game on the 23rd is going to be for the Fiesta Bowl and the loser gets Cotton. Unless something crazy happens in the final 2 weeks.

Yup I agree as well. Even an unbeaten Baylor won't be able to jump Stanford and FSU. Ohio State is possible since they have a really weak schedule to finish out the year.

The game on the 23rd is going to be for the Fiesta Bowl and the loser gets Cotton. Unless something crazy happens in the final 2 weeks.

The Big XII is the new Big East. This conference is really going down the chain. Lost 4 good brands and replaced them with 2 sorry brands and this is what you get. Every Big XII fan can thank Texas for what they did to this once proud and powerful conference.

It also goes to show exactly how good Landry Jones was.

People were critical but he's on a pro roster for very good reasons.

Quarterbacks with a good throwing arm who remain in the pocket are valueable to the pros; staying in that pocket will minimize injuries. Landry Jones will be a good backup in the NFL.


My take on OU football:

Team

We're going through a rebuilding year and we don't have a lot of depth in key position. You bet injuries can make a big difference in a college football game. True, it's not an excuse; however it factors into altering a team's game plan.

Coaches

Bob Stoops made some recent coaching changes.

The staff can't play or manipulate the players on the field--they can only train, drill, condition & motivate the players to reach their full potential.

Fans

Oklahoma University has always been a major football power, truely rich in tradition--our fans expect nothing less. Since January 3, 2001 we've played in four national championship games in the last thirteen years.

Orange Bowl
2000 defeated Florida State University 13-2 (in Miami, Florida).

Sugar Bowl
2003 loss to Louisiana State University 21-14 (in New Orleans, Louisiana).

Orange Bowls
2004 loss to Southern California University 55-19 (in Miami,Florida).
2008 loss to Florida University 24-14 (Miami, Florida).

Source: BCS National Championship Game - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCS_National_Championship_Game)