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ou48A
09-29-2013, 01:51 PM
Fantastic game in South Bend! I wish we could play them every year!

It sounds like they might be in the talking stages of another home and home deal.
It would be good to play ND home and home every 10 to 15 years.

bluedogok
09-29-2013, 02:54 PM
The Big 12 is down this season, it is cyclic. Many teams lost a good chunk of their offenses from last season and I expect the conference will be better as the teams come into their own.

We headed to the mountains yesterday (Breckenridge, Independence Pass, Aspen) as I wasn't too confident about the game. Listened to it when driving (ND broadcast on Sirius) and checked in on the score when were were walking around Breck. I recorded the game on the DVR, will have to watch it after the NFL games today since we didn't get back to Denver from Aspen until 1:00 this morning.

venture
09-30-2013, 06:32 PM
HOLY CRAP! Hurry...run to the SEC, Big Ten, PAC, whoever...before he changes his mind.

Report: Texas AD DeLoss Dodds to announce retirement Tuesday - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/23933320/report-texas-ad-deloss-dodds-to-announce-retirement-tuesday)

DeLoss Dodds will announce Tuesday afternoon that he will step down next August as Texas (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/TEXAS/texas-longhorns)' athletic director, according to the Austin American-Statesman (http://www.mystatesman.com/weblogs/bohl-games/2013/sep/30/sources-dodds-stepping-down/).

ljbab728
09-30-2013, 11:50 PM
Ugh! Another year of having breakfast at the Cotton Bowl.

Oklahoma football: Kickoff set for Oct. 12 OU-Texas game | News OK (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-football-kickoff-set-for-oct.-12-ou-texas-game/article/3888299)

venture
10-01-2013, 05:55 PM
More news from Dodds retirement announcement: Texas AD DeLoss Dodds officially announces plan to step down - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/23951028/texas-ad-deloss-dodds-officially-announces-plan-to-step-down)

ou48A
10-02-2013, 10:44 AM
Oklahoma a legit title*contender. ESPN

Oklahoma Sooners a legit title contender - College Football - ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9752883/oklahoma-sooners-legit-title-contender-college-football?addata=2009_insdr_mod_ncf_xxx_xxx)

"The Sooners are now a clear favorite in the league."

"And they could go even further."

adaniel
10-02-2013, 12:20 PM
While I was definitely impressed with the ND game, I temper myself with the fact that this is not the same ND from last year. I think OU is still a bit porous in blocking the run (but no doubt our defense is MUCH improved). But we are young. I like this team and where its headed.

As far as being a title contender, I think the Big 12-2 is far too weak; we would have to win every game and hope that every other top 10 team has at least 1 loss. And frankly I am not so sure OU wins out; we always drop a game we should have run away with. But I definitely think the conference championship is very much in reach, and a BCS bowl appearance and top 10 or even 5 finish would be considered a big success in a so called rebuilding year. I think next year we are primed to go all the way, which is a testament to Bob Stoop's leadership in righting the ship.

venture
10-02-2013, 12:28 PM
TCU should be a decent test on how well we can stop a running QB. I agree with AD though. The Big 12 is too weak for OU to be a title contender this year if we see more than 1 team for undefeated. It should be pointed out that in the BCS Computers right now, Georgia has a decent lead on us WITH one loss. Unless teams completely implode, we are going to have at least one of these pairs ahead of us: Alabama/Georgia, Oregon/Stanford, Clemson/Florida State...and probably also Ohio State if they win out.

OU is in the drivers seat for the Big 12 title, so they just need to focus on that. National title hopes are still pretty dim. If we were in a playoff format already this year, then it would be a good chance we would be in the mix. Unless of course they would take an undefeated Louisville - who is still a couple slots below us right now.

ou48A
10-02-2013, 12:44 PM
OU is young at several potions.... several mistakes prevented a more lopsided score. The good news is that these mistakes are very correctable.

There are several improvements that have been made at OU that most of the local sports media is well behind the curve on parts of them.

The new coaches have made a big difference. But so have changes in the strength, conditioning and nutrition. OU is a significantly stronger and better conditioned team. Lower injury rates verify this. Except for maybe Texas its going to be very tough for any Big 12 team to match the new physicality of what OU now brings.
OU now has a poised QB, particularly for only 2 starts. There is also a much better team chemistry this season. Players will work hard to get better each week.
If OU doesn’t play well, turns the ball over or has a rash of injuries they could lose a game just like any good team can.... But OU has got to be the Big 12 favorit at this point.
But for the first time in several seasons I like the direction the program is headed. Players are playing and acting like they are putting the teams fortunes first.... We have not seen that IMHO in a long time.

Spartan
10-02-2013, 07:32 PM
OU is young at several potions.... several mistakes prevented a more lopsided score. The good news is that these mistakes are very correctable.

There are several improvements that have been made at OU that most of the local sports media is well behind the curve on parts of them.

The new coaches have made a big difference. But so have changes in the strength, conditioning and nutrition. OU is a significantly stronger and better conditioned team. Lower injury rates verify this. Except for maybe Texas its going to be very tough for any Big 12 team to match the new physicality of what OU now brings.
OU now has a poised QB, particularly for only 2 starts. There is also a much better team chemistry this season. Players will work hard to get better each week.
If OU doesn’t play well, turns the ball over or has a rash of injuries they could lose a game just like any good team can.... But OU has got to be the Big 12 favorit at this point.
But for the first time in several seasons I like the direction the program is headed. Players are playing and acting like they are putting the teams fortunes first.... We have not seen that IMHO in a long time.

So you mean OU was a weak team before?

adaniel
10-02-2013, 09:51 PM
^
I lost count of how many injury time outs OU was taking by the end of last season.

dankrutka
10-03-2013, 11:16 AM
The Big 12 is too weak for OU to be a title contender this year if we see more than 1 team for undefeated. It should be pointed out that in the BCS Computers right now, Georgia has a decent lead on us WITH one loss. Unless teams completely implode, we are going to have at least one of these pairs ahead of us: Alabama/Georgia, Oregon/Stanford, Clemson/Florida State...and probably also Ohio State if they win out.

I love how OU is playing, but I don't think they get through the conference unscathed... But, if they do, there's a good chance they'd play for the title. There are not multiple undefeated BCS teams most seasons. There will be upsets along the way and OU will pass 1 loss teams eventually (either in the polls or computers or both). There are a lot of head-to-head top 10 matches yet to come and the winners of some of those will lose a game somewhere else. It happens every year. While it's fun to think about, this OU team probably isn't there yet, but we'll see.

warreng88
10-03-2013, 11:22 AM
Isn't this year the first year of the four team playoff? If so, all they have to do is make it into the top four in the BCS to have a chance at the national title.

venture
10-03-2013, 11:30 AM
Isn't this year the first year of the four team playoff? If so, all they have to do is make it into the top four in the BCS to have a chance at the national title.

That's with the 2014 season. This is the last BCS year. There won't be any BCS poll next year. The four team playoff is also picked by committee not by poll rankings.

bluedogok
10-03-2013, 09:45 PM
The officials sure are baling Texas out tonight with penalties, especially pass interference.

venture
10-03-2013, 10:17 PM
Wow...31-30 over ISU?!?

I know OU/TX can be different as everyone is pumped up...but it just feels like a year where it's going to be another OU 60+ to TX 7ish.

dcsooner
10-03-2013, 10:25 PM
The big 12 is a dead conference. Texas and Delois dodds killed it.

warreng88
10-04-2013, 09:10 AM
That's with the 2014 season. This is the last BCS year. There won't be any BCS poll next year. The four team playoff is also picked by committee not by poll rankings.

Good to know. Thanks for the clarification.

MonkeesFan
10-04-2013, 05:11 PM
Wow...31-30 over ISU?!?

I know OU/TX can be different as everyone is pumped up...but it just feels like a year where it's going to be another OU 60+ to TX 7ish.

Sounds like you have a problem with that?

Laramie
10-04-2013, 06:09 PM
The big 12 is a dead conference. Texas and Delois dodds killed it.

You bet they killed it; they ranned off Nebraska, Texas A & M, Missouri & Colorado some really good schools in both academics as well as athletics. OU continues to hang on to Texas because of the Red River Rivarly. It's time we take charge of what's left of the Big 12 conference and bring some schools which could make the conference more competitive. The

The other alternative would be for OU/OSU to move on to the PAC 12 or SEC.

venture
10-04-2013, 07:37 PM
Sounds like you have a problem with that?

Then you need to get your ears cleaned out. :-P

venture
10-04-2013, 07:38 PM
You bet they killed it; they ranned off Nebraska, Texas A & M, Missouri & Colorado some really good schools in both academics as well as athletics. OU continues to hang on to Texas because of the Red River Rivarly. It's time we take charge of what's left of the Big 12 conference and bring some schools which could make the conference more competitive. The

The other alternative would be for OU/OSU to move on to the PAC 12 or SEC.

I think at the end of the day, OU needs to forget OSU and do what is best for the school. If that means OSU ends up in the Mountain West...oh well.

ou48A
10-04-2013, 07:53 PM
I think at the end of the day, OU needs to forget OSU and do what is best for the school. If that means OSU ends up in the Mountain West...oh well.
There is no doubt that this^ is what needs to happen and will very likely happen at some point..
Eventually everybody will be required to stand or fall on their own merits.

MonkeesFan
10-04-2013, 11:06 PM
Then you need to get your ears cleaned out. :-P

Uhh no, I can not hear and I am being serious

venture
10-05-2013, 03:35 PM
So FSU routes Maryland today 63-0...speaks highly of just how great WVU and in relation the Big 12 is. LOL

Oh Boren, please call the Big 10. Never thought I would ever say that.

venture
10-05-2013, 09:20 PM
Dear God that game was rough. Hopefully next week is much better or Texas + Refs might beat us.

ljbab728
10-05-2013, 09:47 PM
So FSU routes Maryland today 63-0...speaks highly of just how great WVU and in relation the Big 12 is. LOL

Oh Boren, please call the Big 10. Never thought I would ever say that.

You might want to glance at the Baylor - WVU score. I think WVU has gone in the toilet and I think we can assume that Baylor is ligit now. I can't imagine how WVU ended up beating OSU. OSU isn't the championship team they were advertised to be but they still shouldn't have lost to WVU.

venture
10-05-2013, 10:29 PM
Oh don't mistake me for thinking WVU is legit in any caliber. They are a crap team this year.

venture
10-05-2013, 10:42 PM
I think Baylor wins the Big 12 this year. I don't see us getting out of Waco undefeated based on how the team is playing right now...unless the Defense gets it together to stop them.

ljbab728
10-05-2013, 11:06 PM
I think Baylor wins the Big 12 this year. I don't see us getting out of Waco undefeated based on how the team is playing right now...unless the Defense gets it together to stop them.

I can't complain about the OU defense this year for the most part. It's definitely improved. But Baylor put up 864 yards tonight against WVU. That's not easy against air.

MonkeesFan
10-05-2013, 11:50 PM
What is with Baylor scoring 70 points a game? I think that streak will be broken next week against Kansas State

Easy180
10-06-2013, 07:37 AM
Would be nice to see Baylor win the conference....Especially since there aren't any Big XII teams that could hang with the elite teams this year

Laramie
10-06-2013, 10:50 AM
Would be nice to see Baylor win the conference....Especially since there aren't any Big XII teams that could hang with the elite teams this year

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We're approaching the midpoint of the college football season and you're turning it over to Baylor?

Comparing scores of like opponents is a way to gauge teams and for all intensive purposes those teams have to perform on the field.

Oklahoma & Baylor have two like opponents:

Oklahoma 16 West Virginia 7
Baylolr 73 West Virginia 42

Oklahoma 34 Louisiana Monroe 0
Baylor 70 Louisiana Monroe 7

I wouldn't be so quick to take OU out of the equation. Is there anyone who doesn't think that OU is an elite team or program?

adaniel
10-06-2013, 12:32 PM
I would be more impressed with Baylor if they had played a Division 1 school with a winning record up to this point.

betts
10-06-2013, 01:26 PM
I've found that its difficult to predict how teams will fare against each other, even based on their records against the same teams.

Easy180
10-06-2013, 03:42 PM
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMbjwmVAistUrKXC1bq-HlrP11BuJuMPO9Sz4jLcuTWp5-Wi3B

We're approaching the midpoint of the college football season and you're turning it over to Baylor?

Comparing scores of like opponents is a way to gauge teams and for all intensive purposes those teams have to perform on the field.

Oklahoma & Baylor have two like opponents:

Oklahoma 16 West Virginia 7
Baylolr 73 West Virginia 42

Oklahoma 34 Louisiana Monroe 0
Baylor 70 Louisiana Monroe 7

I wouldn't be so quick to take OU out of the equation. Is there anyone who doesn't think that OU is an elite team or program?

They are not an elite team at this point in time but things can change in a hurry in the college football universe

It's obvious this is a down year across the board for the conference...I don't think any of them should be BCS worthy this year

OKCisOK4me
10-06-2013, 07:29 PM
Baylor is going to destroy my Pokes in Stillwater and easily take the Big XII this year. That's how down the conference is...

BoulderSooner
10-06-2013, 10:08 PM
Baylor is going to destroy my Pokes in Stillwater and easily take the Big XII this year. That's how down the conference is...

The troll is strong with this one.

venture
10-06-2013, 10:32 PM
The troll is strong with this one.

Hardly.

ljbab728
10-07-2013, 02:58 PM
New uniforms for both OU and UT for the game this weekend.
Oklahoma, Texas to wear gold-accented jerseys for Red River Rivalry | Campus Union - SI.com (http://college-football.si.com/2013/10/07/texas-oklahoma-gold-jerseys-red-river-rivalry/?sct=cf_t2_a2)

4568

http://www.soonersports.com/fls/31000/gold/

OKCisOK4me
10-07-2013, 03:25 PM
The troll is strong with this one.

How is it trolling when you're making an honest remark about your own football team which you love regardless of what you think may happen? Find a real troll.

onthestrip
10-07-2013, 03:45 PM
I've found that its difficult to predict how teams will fare against each other, even based on their records against the same teams.

It is one of the worst ways to compare teams.

That said, Baylor is looking pretty good. Someone will crack their code though.

venture
10-07-2013, 04:07 PM
How is it trolling when you're making an honest remark about your own football team which you love regardless of what you think may happen? Find a real troll.

Now now...the State Fair is evidence enough not everyone owns a mirror. :)

onthestrip
10-07-2013, 04:37 PM
How is it trolling when you're making an honest remark about your own football team which you love regardless of what you think may happen? Find a real troll.

If I had to guess, Id say he called you a troll because you mentioned someone other than his beloved sooners as big 12 champs.

OKCisOK4me
10-07-2013, 05:21 PM
If I had to guess, Id say he called you a troll because you mentioned someone other than his beloved sooners as big 12 champs.

That would make sense. How I didn't think of that? Oh yeah, I can't stand gooners. (now would that be trolling?) lol

ljbab728
10-07-2013, 11:59 PM
A very good perspective on OU - Texas by Barry Trammel. And Tony Casillas looks like he's in shape to step out on the field today.

Oklahoma football: Why there's only one rivalry better than OU-Texas | News OK (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-football-why-theres-only-one-rivalry-better-than-ou-texas/article/3890812)

ou48A
10-08-2013, 12:55 PM
Pack the poncho for the OU game in Dallas

ljbab728
10-08-2013, 09:01 PM
Pack the poncho for the OU game in Dallas

I'm hearing that the main threat of rain will be later in the day after the game.

ou48A
10-08-2013, 09:55 PM
I'm hearing that the main threat of rain will be later in the day after the game.

Right now that looks like its the case... but this far out the timing could change.
I would at least take rain gear along in the car.

In case you or others are not familiar with this site its the very best weather site out there for outdoor events that I have found
This is weather by the hour in Dallas from NOAA
Check back for updates.

NOAA National Weather Service (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=32.77038&lon=-) case 96.76387026440352&unit=0&lg=english&FcstType=graphical

ljbab728
10-09-2013, 12:03 AM
"We Hate the Burnt Orange"

KJ-103 releases annual OU/Texas pop parody song | News OK (http://newsok.com/hear-this-outexas-pop-parody-song/article/3891245)

Laramie
10-09-2013, 12:56 PM
They are not an elite team at this point in time but things can change in a hurry in the college football universe

It's obvious this is a down year across the board for the conference...I don't think any of them should be BCS worthy this year

Again, is the college football season over midway through the year? How do we define elite, top 10, 15, 20, 25? There are approximately 130 or more schools playing Division I football.

The conference ties and toughness like the SEC is great for college football, it bodes well for Alabama, Florida, Georgia and Texas A & M. The focus is now on the SEC as it was for the Big 12 beginning the decade of this century.

The polls and weekly rankings doesn't always tell who are the elite teams. It's more of a popularity contest among big schools' who's who in college football.

Who would have put Texas A & M in that conversation last season until they beat 'Bama' in Tuscaloosa.. Now Baylor making some noise, a school once thought to be a drag on the Big 12.

I've been a lifelong Oklahoma Sooner fan and supportive of all the programs throughout; so don't lose faith. The pendulum swings back and forth and I definitely feel that you Easy180 hasn't lost confidence especially when you posted "but things can change a hurry." Don't let all that talk you hear in the media pull you down. In dealing with a division dominated by 18-22 year olds, it does the most damage to the teams who are the recipients of that hype. It's easy to get the big head.

Blake Bell continues to answer the bell. The OU Sooners are performing on the field and not so much in the media--the pieces will fall into place.

Dustin
10-09-2013, 02:04 PM
"We Hate the Burnt Orange"

KJ-103 releases annual OU/Texas pop parody song | News OK (http://newsok.com/hear-this-outexas-pop-parody-song/article/3891245)

cringe

Dustin
10-09-2013, 02:22 PM
Fun Fact: If the Sooners win out on Sat, the Texas class of 2014 will graduate without seeing the shorthorns win in the Red River Shootout.

It makes me all happy inside.

MonkeesFan
10-09-2013, 02:29 PM
Fun Fact: If the Sooners win out on Sat, the Texas class of 2014 will graduate without seeing the shorthorns win in the Red River Shootout.

It makes me all happy inside.

It would be nice but the Sooners should not take the Shorthorns easy

ljbab728
10-09-2013, 11:19 PM
Cheap tickets can be had.

Red River Rivalry tickets going for less than $80 | News OK (http://newsok.com/red-river-rivalry-tickets-going-for-less-than-80/article/3891561)

OKCisOK4me
10-10-2013, 02:29 AM
Fun Fact: If the Sooners win out on Sat, the Texas class of 2014 will graduate without seeing the shorthorns win in the Red River Shootout.

It makes me all happy inside.

This is the only regular season game I'm satisfied if ou wins.

jerrywall
10-10-2013, 11:42 AM
Cheap tickets can be had.

Red River Rivalry tickets going for less than $80 | News OK (http://newsok.com/red-river-rivalry-tickets-going-for-less-than-80/article/3891561)

This doesn't surprise me. I'll enjoy the game, but it's hard to get excited about it. I'm worried I may fall asleep by halftime.

kelroy55
10-10-2013, 11:52 AM
Keep an eye on the Refs... Iowa St got screwed on that fumble call.

venture
10-10-2013, 11:59 AM
Keep an eye on the Refs... Iowa St got screwed on that fumble call.

Hopefully OU will score enough to where it won't matter. Of course...things change when its raining.

jerrywall
10-10-2013, 12:05 PM
What was the quote about "if you can't play good enough to beat the other team AND the big 12 refs, you don't deserve to win"?