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warreng88
07-16-2013, 10:30 AM
This is in the "Soccer: NASL and USL professional leagues fighting over OKC" thread under sports, but because it is new construction, I thought it should have its own thread. Mods, feel free to delete it if you feel it is necessary.

Prodigal, ADG to build soccer stadium in Oklahoma City

BY RHIANNON WALKER, Staff Writer, rwalker@opubco.com • Published: July 16, 2013

Prodigal LLC announced today that it has formed a partnership with locally owned ADG, Inc. to design and build a soccer specific stadium in Oklahoma City to be the home of Prodigal's USL PRO franchise.

Beginning in Spring 2014, Prodigal will operate a USL PRO franchise in Oklahoma City. Several stadiums for game play for the first season are currently under consideration.

Prodigal and ADG are exploring multiple building sites for the stadium and are engaged in discussions about long-term strategy, location and design. Initial plans for the stadium call for it to seat 7,000, with the expansion capability of 20,000, which is the minimum size for a franchise to be considered to earn an expansion team in Major League Soccer (MLS).

“Part of the three-year long process to bring a USL PRO team to Oklahoma City was to explore the opportunity to build a soccer specific stadium in the metro area,” said Prodigal CEO Bob Funk Jr. “ADG has proven itself to be a company that can design and service award winning work. We look forward to working with ADG to design a stadium that can serve the needs of our USL PRO team, and also expand based on our long-term goal of bringing and MLS team to Oklahoma City.”

The firm designed the Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark, which is now in its 15th year of operation. Sports and recreation design work beyond the ballpark has included schools and churches throughout Central Oklahoma.

Founded in 1975, the firm has called Bricktown home since 1987—before the sports and entertainment district was established. ADG has a staff of more then 50 employees, including architects, interior designers, engineers and program managers.

Program management contracts include overseeing all the MAPS for Kids projects as well as the MAPS 3 program.

ADG provides design and program management services to clients throughout the country from its base in Oklahoma City. ADG is also responsible for the new Dean McGee Eye Institute at Oklahoma University Medical Center, Nonna's Ristorante, and projects at Saint Anthony Hospital, including Saints Medical Plaza, the east campus expansion and the twin beacons atop the ADG-designed surgery center.

Said Design Director and principal at ADG, Inc., Scott Dedmon: "We are privileged to be a part of this important project for Oklahoma City. When we designed the Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark it set a new standard for Triple-A Baseball. We expect to do the same for USL PRO Soccer. This will be an exciting new sports venue for Oklahoma City and will express the growth of our city."

Prodigal LLC is a full service event management company based in Oklahoma City. Prodigal operates the Oklahoma City Barons professional hockey team, co-promotes Professional Bull Riders (PBR) events in Oklahoma City and Tulsa.

The company operates the Ram National Circuit Finals Rodeo (RNCFR), serves as the co-organizer for the March of Dimes Sports Headliner Banquet and produces the Bricktown 4th Fest and is a sales and marketing partner with All College and World Cup of Softball.

Prodigal is engaging the local community to assist in naming the team with an online contest at Prodigal (http://www.okcusl.com). Tickets may be reserved by calling (405) 232-KICK.

Prodigal, ADG to build soccer stadium in Oklahoma City | News OK (http://newsok.com/prodigal-adg-to-build-soccer-stadium-in-oklahoma-city/article/3862781)

Pete
07-16-2013, 10:32 AM
So, where should it go?

How about along the River??

warreng88
07-16-2013, 10:34 AM
So, where should it go?

How about along the River??

The river would be great. Buy the Pull-A-Part Auto yard and put it there? I think the fairgrounds is another possibility. Not my first choice, but I could see it there. Honestly, my preference would be to tear down the Body Works, McDonalds and the convenience store and put it across from Bass Pro in BT. That, combined with the new apartments north of there would be great bookends.

AP
07-16-2013, 10:41 AM
So, where should it go?

How about along the River??

I think the river would be the perfect place for it.

amaesquire
07-16-2013, 10:45 AM
I'm all for the river!

wsucougz
07-16-2013, 10:49 AM
River.

theparkman81
07-16-2013, 10:49 AM
I'm all for the river!

So am i, also maybe in Bricktown.

Just the facts
07-16-2013, 10:55 AM
From perusing soccer stadiums around the world they tend to be located in or directly adjacent to neighborhoods where they literally become part of the neighborhood. I hope we can resist the default American conventional wisdom of putting it out on an island by itself with nothing around it but parking and/or open space.

I would build it in Midtown and let the neighborhood grow up around it.

Pete
07-16-2013, 10:57 AM
I know this will be soccer-specific, but most the MLS stadiums are used for other sports and events.

Would be really nice for OKC to have a place to play HS state championship games and other things.

OKC really doesn't have a stadium other than the Ballpark.

Just the facts
07-16-2013, 11:02 AM
I know this will be soccer-specific, but most the MLS stadiums are used for other sports and events.

Would be really nice for OKC to have a place to play HS state championship games and other things.

OKC really doesn't have a stadium other than the Ballpark.

Is that one of the reason for remodeling Taft Stadium?

warreng88
07-16-2013, 11:05 AM
Would there be any interest in doing something like what FC Dallas did? Build a 20,000 person stadium with 17 tournament-grade fields around it.

http://www.fcdallasstadium.com/page/about-fc-dallas-stadium

I am curious if this is only going to be a private venture or if it will be public/private.

Just the facts
07-16-2013, 11:13 AM
I vote a big NO to that idea.

Pete
07-16-2013, 11:14 AM
That "Dallas" facility is in Frisco, and almost as close to the Oklahoma border as downtown Big D.

adaniel
07-16-2013, 11:16 AM
That "Dallas" facility is in Frisco, and almost as close to the Oklahoma border as downtown Big D.

FC Dallas has also had some attendance problems, and I know the fields have been underutilized, but that was a few years ago.

Just curious as to how they will be funding this?

Spartan
07-16-2013, 11:17 AM
Wow that's a press release if I ever saw one.

How will this be funded?

Pete
07-16-2013, 11:23 AM
Of course, Funk Jr. / Prodigal own the Barons.

As what I hope is a good sign, Prodigal just signed a lease for expanded space downtown at 615 N. Hudson:

http://www.loopnet.com/xnet/mainsite/HttpHandlers/attachment/ServeAttachment.ashx?FileGuid=4B6BB523-CB64-4FE1-B67D-CC86A7796690&Extension=JPG&Width=0&Height=0

CaptDave
07-16-2013, 11:52 AM
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I still like this idea - this way our minor league hockey team will still have a downtown home when the Cox site is redeveloped. It also makes it a facility that is used year round making additional development around it more likely. Put this on the Pull A Part or Coop site and use it for high school, college, and pro games. Make it expandable to 25000 to make it viable for a future MLS franchise if we ever get to that point.

Spartan
07-16-2013, 11:59 AM
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I still like this idea - this way our minor league hockey team will still have a downtown home when the Cox site is redeveloped. It also makes it a facility that is used year round making additional development around it more likely. Put this on the Pull A Part or Coop site and use it for high school, college, and pro games. Make it expandable to 25000 to make it viable for a future MLS franchise if we ever get to that point.

I am still curious where the money for this will be coming..

CaptDave
07-16-2013, 12:05 PM
I am still curious where the money for this will be coming..

Likely a public - private partnership with whomever wins the OKC Pro Soccer turf war. Timing might be such that the MAPS3 Convention Center is complete and redevelopment of the Cox CC site becomes desirable and a city priority which just happens to coincide with a MAPS4 slate of projects. Include this to replace the Cox Arena provide another major sporting venue. This is actually a viable project that will serve present and realistic future needs unlike a huge NFL stadium that will never be home to an NFL franchise.

Kokopelli
07-16-2013, 12:11 PM
With all of the talk about Farmers Market be the next area of development perhaps this site would be viable.


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CaptDave
07-16-2013, 12:13 PM
With all of the talk about Farmers Market be the next area of development perhaps this site would be viable.


4130

Interesting - hadn't thought of that honestly. I do not recall what is on that site now.

Rover
07-16-2013, 12:17 PM
I am still curious where the money for this will be coming..

Funk has the money to build it himself if he wishes.

G.Walker
07-16-2013, 12:22 PM
Producers Cooperative Oil Mill site...please!

wdj
07-16-2013, 12:40 PM
With all of the talk about Farmers Market be the next area of development perhaps this site would be viable.


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I love this idea!!!

bradh
07-16-2013, 01:09 PM
Houston did it right when they built BBVA Compass Stadium for the Dynamo. Right on the other side of downtown, across US59 from the convention center, and right in the middle of the developing East Downtown area.

http://iconvenue.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/preview/Houston%20Aerial%20Enhanced.jpg

Snowman
07-16-2013, 01:12 PM
Producers Cooperative Oil Mill site...please!

It seems highly unlikely for either the mill or pull a part sites to be chosen. A much larger than nessisary area needs to be bought and both have the worst existing infrastructure in C2S. The mill would add at least five years before construction could start. The pull a part site has horrible access for events of any size. There are far better options near western or the south bank if they want near the river.

warreng88
07-16-2013, 01:15 PM
Interesting - hadn't thought of that honestly. I do not recall what is on that site now.

Several decrepit old buildings that need to be torn down. It would be pretty ideal being that close to the highway. Even just SE of that in Wheeler Park would be a good spot.

Just the facts
07-16-2013, 01:25 PM
You only need a plot of ground about 600' by 400'.

warreng88
07-16-2013, 01:26 PM
We are looking at about four square blocks with room for parking. One place that would be interesting would be SE across the river from the Pull-A=Part auto yard, north of SE 15th Street. If they could get the city to do away with S Central Avenue drive to SE 15th and just use Byers Avenue instead, they would have a pretty good size spot while only having to take out several tractor/trailer storage spots. And you would have a really cool view of downtown to boot.

hoya
07-16-2013, 01:31 PM
What about placing it south of the river, near the Capitol Hill area? This could be the first step in a redevelopment process there. If it later turns into a MLS stadium, it also puts it close to the Hispanic community, hopefully making that part of the city more likely to embrace it. Soccer is more popular with that demographic, and a connection with the community could lead to many more ticket sales.

warreng88
07-16-2013, 01:56 PM
I think one of the tricks of this will be to build it where it can be expanded but major changes to roads and other infrastructure don't have to be made to do it. Also, they are probably not goign to build anything butting up against the new park(s) since the powers that be want residential and offices to go in first.

CaptDave
07-16-2013, 01:58 PM
I think one of the tricks of this will be to build it where it can be expanded but major changes to roads and other infrastructure don't have to be made to do it. Also, they are probably not goign to build anything butting up against the new park(s) since the powers that be want residential and offices to go in first.

Agree - how cool would it be to walk from a home in Core to Shore down to the riverside walking paths over to a stadium on the Pull A Part site to take in a match? Or ride the streetcar from Midtown to Union Station and then walk the last couple hundred meters?

Just the facts
07-16-2013, 02:00 PM
Why does it need parking attached? Build it some place that already has parking within walking distance, or where many of the people who might go to a game can just walk to it.

MikeLucky
07-16-2013, 02:21 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... build one of these:

Saitama Super Arena - Facility Information (http://www.saitama-arena.co.jp/e/facility.html)

It's only about $200 million to build.... can we swing that? lol

Richard at Remax
07-16-2013, 02:23 PM
Putting in the northern most parking lot at Remington park wouldn't be too bad of an idea along with the others mentioned. It is half parking lot half field. Infrastructure is built and highway access is close.

Or the vacant lot just to the east of the downtown airpark.

LuccaBrasi
07-16-2013, 02:24 PM
I had mentioned recently in another thread that the other soccer group had conceptual plans and renderings drawn up for s similar stadium and had met with the Mayor and others to gain some traction......their concept placed it down along the river in the CTS area and it included an additional complex of fields to the west for regional tournaments. It means nothing today, just throwing that out there to say the other group was exploring a similar idea of a multi-purpose stadium and they wanted it to be an anchor along the river, but obviously they have lost out to the Prodigal in the grand scheme of things.

CaptDave
07-16-2013, 02:25 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... build one of these:

Saitama Super Arena - Facility Information (http://www.saitama-arena.co.jp/e/facility.html)

It's only about $200 million to build.... can we swing that? lol

Pretty cool concept. My only issue is my preference for real football to be played outdoors on natural grass. But still a very interesting design.

MikeLucky
07-16-2013, 02:45 PM
Pretty cool concept. My only issue is my preference for real football to be played outdoors on natural grass. But still a very interesting design.

Yeah, I detest indoor football... I certainly wasn't suggesting it for that. But, a "convertible" type facility that could go from 7,000ish for soccer to say mid-20s.... maybe close to 30's would be great for soccer at the entry level like we are getting, all the way up to possble MLS and maybe even NCAA basketball regionals type events... Larger music festival type events... Toby's relief event could have been there and saved 1,200 heat strokes. lol

mdeand
07-16-2013, 03:35 PM
What about placing it south of the river, near the Capitol Hill area? This could be the first step in a redevelopment process there. If it later turns into a MLS stadium, it also puts it close to the Hispanic community, hopefully making that part of the city more likely to embrace it. Soccer is more popular with that demographic, and a connection with the community could lead to many more ticket sales.

This is a fantastic idea. Placed on the south shore of the river would accomplish both connecting it to the Hispanic community and also connecting it to downtown.

Snowman
07-16-2013, 03:39 PM
Any word on where the funding is coming from. I am just having a hard time seeing them pay for a stadium out of pocket since as of this far their teams have always played in city owned facilities.

CaptDave
07-16-2013, 03:43 PM
Yeah, I detest indoor football... I certainly wasn't suggesting it for that. But, a "convertible" type facility that could go from 7,000ish for soccer to say mid-20s.... maybe close to 30's would be great for soccer at the entry level like we are getting, all the way up to possble MLS and maybe even NCAA basketball regionals type events... Larger music festival type events... Toby's relief event could have been there and saved 1,200 heat strokes. lol

To be 100% clear, in my opinion "real" football = soccer. The game is much better on natural grass - synthetic turf is one of the main complaints of players from high level international leagues that come to MLS or play exhibitions in American football stadiums. That other game is for people too uncoordinated to not use their hands!! :D

I still think that movable wall is a very interesting idea. No reason it couldn't work since the entire grass field at University of Phoenix stadium can be rolled outside.

architect5311
07-16-2013, 04:11 PM
[QUOTE=warreng88;665450]Would there be any interest in doing something like what FC Dallas did? Build a 20,000 person stadium with 17 tournament-grade fields around it.


I agree...maybe on the Myriad Gardens II Site (Central Park Site). Oh, to late for that.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk92/gandjdunlap/OklahomaCityFC-OKCSoccerComplex.jpg (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/gandjdunlap/media/OklahomaCityFC-OKCSoccerComplex.jpg.html)

adaniel
07-16-2013, 05:00 PM
Any word on where the funding is coming from. I am just having a hard time seeing them pay for a stadium out of pocket since as of this far their teams have always played in city owned facilities.

I asked this earlier in the thread as well. Until they identify how they are going to pay for this, I'm apt to put this in the "pie in the sky" category. With that in mind, I hope they can build it.

boitoirich
07-16-2013, 05:33 PM
I asked this earlier in the thread as well. Until they identify how they are going to pay for this, I'm apt to put this in the "pie in the sky" category. With that in mind, I hope they can build it.

This is certainly ambitious, but it isn't "pie in the sky." Going along with other USL Pro soccer-specific stadia, the costs of a 7,000 seater would put the Funk/ADG proposal in the $7 million range. As for expansion to the 20,000-seat configuration for MLS purposes, you would have to think that Prodigal is looking at MAPS 4 to get something done. Depending on what they want to do, the stadium can be reconfigured for an additional $40 million (Portland, Montreal) to $80 million (Dallas, Toronto). Some clubs constructed stadia in the $100-$200 million range, but I would highly doubt OKC voters would approve that much funding.

Snowman
07-16-2013, 06:56 PM
[QUOTE=warreng88;665450]Would there be any interest in doing something like what FC Dallas did? Build a 20,000 person stadium with 17 tournament-grade fields around it.


I agree...maybe on the Myriad Gardens II Site (Central Park Site). Oh, to late for that.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk92/gandjdunlap/OklahomaCityFC-OKCSoccerComplex.jpg (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/gandjdunlap/media/OklahomaCityFC-OKCSoccerComplex.jpg.html)

Working a couple into the central park is great, using the vast majority (and acquiring double the original area planed going by the image) is far to much, especially when it's not that popular with the majority of citizens.

A core concept in proposing the park was something that people can come into and enjoy for a various reasons so residential and corporate offices will want to locate there, generally implied it would be at least several story buildings. A grid of soccer fields is not going to do that.

Also no matter what is planned, nothing in it should block the Harvey pedestrian spine of C2S.

bchris02
07-16-2013, 07:54 PM
I would like to see it in Midtown. SoSA, which largely remains ungentrified, would be perfect. It can be the focal point for the development of an entertainment district there like the Redhawks stadium is for Bricktown.

boitoirich
07-16-2013, 08:25 PM
The way the back and forth between Prodigal and Sold Out Strategies is going, I won't be surprised if Lund announces a stadium for his NASL team planned for Core to Shore sometime this week. Not that I know anything about that -- it just seems odd that he'd bring a pro team to the city with only a two-year lease at Taft. If the intention was to continue playing there, wouldn't the lease be longer for 2-3 years? Pretty sure we haven't heard the last of this...

HOT ROD
07-16-2013, 08:38 PM
As I had said in another thread, I don't see why OKC can't have both teams - just put the 'non-AAA' level team in one of the suburbs (Edmond or Norman) and put the AAA team in OKC.

I like the idea of the soccer stadium being built in the southside; we need to send them some love and as was mentioned the Hispanic community will likely be the prime customer base for the team (day in and out). I like the East Downtown Airpark area as the location with the Streetcar eventually tying it and Capital Hill to the rest of the core and Downtown. The stadium could be a huge catalyst for the inner southside and the team would surely be successful if it was accessible to its primary market. Keep Taft as a football stadium.

Somehow I'd like all of this to work itself out with OKC getting a new franchise (metro area 2). With upwards of 150,000 Hispanic residents in the city (more in the metro) that is a huge potential market of support. Putting the stadium in the southside guarantees that it would be embraced as 'something for us' while the rest of the city surely would come for it and the other amenities to come to that riverside area. ....

I like it, I like it a LOT! Huge potential.

bchris02
07-16-2013, 08:55 PM
As I had said in another thread, I don't see why OKC can't have both teams - just put the 'non-AAA' level team in one of the suburbs (Edmond or Norman) and put the AAA team in OKC.

I like the idea of the soccer stadium being built in the southside; we need to send them some love and as was mentioned the Hispanic community will likely be the prime customer base for the team (day in and out). I like the East Downtown Airpark area as the location with the Streetcar eventually tying it and Capital Hill to the rest of the core and Downtown. The stadium could be a huge catalyst for the inner southside and the team would surely be successful if it was accessible to its primary market. Keep Taft as a football stadium.

Somehow I'd like all of this to work itself out with OKC getting a new franchise (metro area 2). With upwards of 150,000 Hispanic residents in the city (more in the metro) that is a huge potential market of support. Putting the stadium in the southside guarantees that it would be embraced as 'something for us' while the rest of the city surely would come for it and the other amenities to come to that riverside area. ....

I like it, I like it a LOT! Huge potential.

I have to disagree with putting it in the suburbs. If that happens in 15-20 years we will just be looking to build a new stadium downtown. Charlotte put the Knights stadium way down in Rock Hill, SC, and now they are building a new stadium downtown because that's where the people wanted it. Having pro teams in suburban areas works in cities much larger than ours such as Dallas, but in a city the size of OKC it should definitely be downtown or at least in the core.

bradh
07-16-2013, 08:59 PM
The ballpark and cowboys stadium works in Arlington because it's centrally located between two large cities. However, Pizza Hut Park is horrible for FC Dallas.

boitoirich
07-16-2013, 09:04 PM
Putting two competing teams in the same market is not going to work for OKC. Both ownership groups have an ultimate goal of bringing MLS to the city, and that's going to take demonstrated fan support surrounding a team for several years. I'd hate to see NASL supporters refusing to support the USL Pro club and vice versa. This is a fight that really needs one winner to emerge.

I agree with whoever said somewhere on this site that I'd prefer the Tier 2 team (NASL, Lund) over the Tier 3 (Funk+ADG, USL Pro). But if Lund doesn't get a soccer-specific stadium together soon, and/or if he loses the legal battle against USL Pro, then the proposed 7,000+ seat stadium south of Core to Shore would be a great start for OKC's eventual MLS push.

Cocaine
07-16-2013, 09:09 PM
I'd kinda like for it to be at the Fair Grounds it's got plenty of space for it and will have more than enough space for any future expansions. I also like the possibility of being able to go to a monster truck rally at this stadium at some point. If not on the Fair Grounds somewhere on the South Side at least.

Snowman
07-16-2013, 09:30 PM
I'd kinda like for it to be at the Fair Grounds it's got plenty of space for it and will have more than enough space for any future expansions. I also like the possibility of being able to go to a monster truck rally at this stadium at some point. If not on the Fair Grounds somewhere on the South Side at least.

The main problem with building anything at the Fair Grounds is it is pretty close to the Stockyards, given the normal wind patterns you have a nearly 50% chance of it smelling terrible.

bchris02
07-16-2013, 09:38 PM
The main problem with building anything at the Fair Grounds is it is pretty close to the Stockyards, given the normal wind patterns you have a nearly 50% chance of it smelling terrible.

Yeah the fairgrounds also aren't quite the environment I would like to see this in. Like I said, I would love to see this become the focal point of OKC's next entertainment district much like the Redhawks did for Bricktown.

bluedogok
07-16-2013, 09:41 PM
FC Dallas has also had some attendance problems, and I know the fields have been underutilized, but that was a few years ago.

Just curious as to how they will be funding this?
The minor league suburban stadiums tend to have trouble attracting fans from all over the city, we rarely attended baseball and never attended hockey games in the Austin area with Dell Ballpark in far north Round Rock and the Cedar Park Center in the far northwest Austin area and we lived in South Austin, many others felt the same way. Having to drive through downtown to get anywhere made it a very long drive. Stadiums like this need to be somewhat centrally located. Frisco is another example of this. Dick's Sporting Goods Park is in Commerce City a little nroth of I-70 near the old Stapleton Airport, not real far from downtown but not adjacent to it. DSG Park was around 113 million but it was built as a MLS stadium since the Rapids were playing at Mile High. Commerce City built it and Kronke Sports operates it.

As far as funding, a 7,000 seat stadium can be as simple or as complex as they want it to be. I think they need to work out a deal with Humphries about locating it on the Downtown Airpark property, Wiley Post or Wheeler Park would be a good location for city involvement aspect. The Austin Aztex played at an AISD stadium just west of downtown in House Park. They got good crowds for the level that it was, they have another team now but I am not sure what level they are or where they play.


The main problem with building anything at the Fair Grounds is it is pretty close to the Stockyards, given the normal wind patterns you have a nearly 50% chance of it smelling terrible.
A soccer stadium doesn't fit in with the 100% horse show focus the fair board has now.

Just the facts
07-16-2013, 10:08 PM
Take the JTF Challenge - find a location that doesn't require the construction of any parking.

OKCisOK4me
07-16-2013, 10:08 PM
Why can't the land just to the south of the Oklahoma River on the east side of Western Avenue not be used? I like that or the previously mentioned site between Exchange, Western & I-40. No matter where this is built, traffic patterns will be a major issue.

Just the facts
07-16-2013, 10:26 PM
Why can't the land just to the south of the Oklahoma River on the east side of Western Avenue not be used? I like that or the previously mentioned site between Exchange, Western & I-40. No matter where this is built, traffic patterns will be a major issue.

Only if you build it in a place that requires everyone to drive to it.

What about the East Bricktown Lot? It is the perfect size. There is also the west Bricktown lot between the railroad and Oklahoma Ave.

hoya
07-16-2013, 10:31 PM
Traffic isn't really going to be any worse than a big high school football game, at least at first. We had about 10,000 people show up every year for the Midwest City/Del City game back when I was a kid. I'm sure the Battle of the Moores has the same type of attendance. I really do think this is something where you can skip parking accommodations, certainly in the beginning. People will park on the street and walk a few blocks. Hell, 85,000 people cram into Owen Field every Saturday and OU doesn't provide nearly enough spaces. As it expands, if you run a streetcar stop down to the area you erase the need for many massive parking lots. It will also make it more likely that after the game, people will walk to a local eatery or store to buy something. This provides a lot of economic activity to the area and helps clean it up. A giant ass parking garage makes it too easy for people to just drive away.

OKCisOK4me
07-16-2013, 10:32 PM
Only if you build it in a place that requires everyone to drive to it.

What about the East Bricktown Lot? It is the perfect size. There is also the west Bricktown lot between the railroad and Oklahoma Ave.

You can't put something like that in the west Bricktown lot. It will be in the way of the parking garage that is in the way of the future commuter rail bridge.