Mississippi Blues
01-31-2016, 03:25 PM
That's the only thing I could imagine it being. It appeared to be more full than what you would expect for a soft opening, but I might just have a skewed idea based off of the minimal glance I had of it.
View Full Version : Quality grocery stores in OKC Mississippi Blues 01-31-2016, 03:25 PM That's the only thing I could imagine it being. It appeared to be more full than what you would expect for a soft opening, but I might just have a skewed idea based off of the minimal glance I had of it. terryinokc 02-01-2016, 09:21 AM That's the only thing I could imagine it being. It appeared to be more full than what you would expect for a soft opening, but I might just have a skewed idea based off of the minimal glance I had of it. It was a special event for employees...my sister works for Buy For Less and was telling me about it. terryinokc 02-01-2016, 09:22 AM That's the only thing I could imagine it being. It appeared to be more full than what you would expect for a soft opening, but I might just have a skewed idea based off of the minimal glance I had of it. It was a special event for employees...my sister works for Buy For Less and was telling me about it. Mississippi Blues 02-01-2016, 05:58 PM Ah, thanks for the info! ctchandler 02-11-2016, 02:39 PM I stopped by the new Uptown today. I have been to the Edmond store many times and I must say, the one on May is the Edmond store on steroids. It's really nice, larger, and must carry more items based on size. They also have the online shopping option. Too bad I have moved away. Love to see on in the Mid-Del area, but it probably won't happen anytime soon. C. T. ctchandler 02-11-2016, 02:39 PM Don't know how, but this was a double post. C. T. turnpup 02-21-2016, 03:24 PM I think the 18th and Western Homeland has reached a new low. We stopped by there just now to grab a couple of frozen pizzas. Right there at the entry was a creepy-looking guy who was asking everyone for cash as they entered and exited. Unbelievable! It just blows the mind that that's the only "neighborhood" grocery for HH, MP, SOSA, etc., residents. There's gotta be sufficient demand for better. Ginkasa 02-21-2016, 03:43 PM I think the 18th and Western Homeland has reached a new low. We stopped by there just now to grab a couple of frozen pizzas. Right there at the entry was a creepy-looking guy who was asking everyone for cash as they entered and exited. Unbelievable! It just blows the mind that that's the only "neighborhood" grocery for HH, MP, SOSA, etc., residents. There's gotta be sufficient demand for better. Did you tell anyone about the guy? turnpup 02-21-2016, 03:45 PM Nope. Maybe I should've. Sadly, that's pretty much par for the course over there. He did walk away, toward Classen, as we were leaving, though. Pete 02-21-2016, 03:46 PM It's really, really bad. I avoid it as much as possible but still find myself going there about every other week just out of convenience. And every time I go I notice something else that is just inexcusable. I doubt they have spent a dime there in 20 years. d-usa 02-22-2016, 06:31 PM I figured I would pick the brains of the knowledgeable grocery guys here to get some opinions. I'm always trying to figure out how to get the best balance between cost and quality, which means I'm constantly adjusting my shopping routine. I wouldn't mind seeing what you guys might do in a similar situation. I often have my 2 year old with me so it helps if I can keep the number of stores to a minimum and minimize distance, but I don't mind going a little bit out of the way. Here are the stores near me and my current pattern: Aldi: 4 or 5 miles from my house, depending on which store I pick. It's 4 miles to the Store in Edmond and 5 miles to the Store by Penn & Memorial. Usually my first stop for anything canned and boxed, eggs, basic produce. Target: 5 miles from my house. Usually my "stuff I didn't get at Aldi" store. I use Cartwheel and the Target-branded Debit Card for the discount, but I'm not that attached to the store. It's nicer than Walmart (IMO) so it gets the pick after the Target near there. I like being able to pick up any non-grocery stuff I might need while I'm there. Butcher Shoppe: North Penn, 2 miles from my house. Nice meat, but it's more expensive than either Aldi or Target of course. But I usually end up finding myself only needing 1 lb of a certain cut of beef roast and the vacuum packed stuff at Aldi and Target just has too much meat in it. So I can either pick up 2+ lbs of roast at one of those stores for $6.99 lbs, or buy 1 lb at $9.99. I spend more per lb, but I'm wasting less. Maybe I just need to invest in a food saver vacuum thingy at some point. That's my current basic routine, it gives me a nice loop from my house. I live about 4 miles north of Memorial on May and this lets me swing down to Penn and hit up Aldi, Target, Butcher and then head home. My other options for shopping are: Walmart (but I don't think they have anything I wouldn't be able to get at Target), 5 miles away at Penn & Memorial. Natural Grocers, 4 miles away. Walmart Neighborhood Market, 4 miles away across the street from Natural Grocers. Homeland (I think it's still open, on Santa Fe & Edmond Road?): 3 miles from my house. Crest in West Edmond: 5 miles from my house. I usually only buy groceries for 3 or 4 days at a time, which works out good with the Aldi produce and we usually end up using it before it goes bad. So the other "loop" I might think about is an Edmond Aldi, Crest, Natural Grocers, Walmart Neighborhood Market. I could still work in the butcher on that loop as well, but I think I might be able to get the right size of meat at Crest, and if I stop there then I probably wouldn't need anything at the Neighborhood Market. So that would probably end up looking like Aldi/Crest/Natural Grocers? But anywho, the question for everyone that shops at these different places would be this: what would you guys do? What places has the best balance of cost/quality for which items? Any places I'm missing that I should consider? oklip955 02-22-2016, 08:08 PM I live in Edmond so I think I can comment. I'm only shopping for myself. I go to Aldi's for basic produce or some specialty stuff they have in for that week. Most of my groceries an meat I buy at Sprouts. ( I freeze meat that I get a good deal on. If you don't have a big freezer/refrigerator, look at buying a small freezer. Stock up on good deals on meat or frozen foods. I buy my paper goods/cleaners at Sam's club (its a once a month trip) I buy my milk (Kalona with a coupon, sign up for their newsletter) and other dairy products at Natural Grocers, I hit Walmart for other items once a month. I get light bulbs at Lowe's only because that is where I find all that I need. I don't eat much processed foods so I don't need anything more then the above stores. You could add Crest to a once a month trip. Sprouts has about all the meat I need. You might try the meat market at Danforth and Sante Fe if you need something special. Hope this helps. Oh and the Homeland is gone. The one at 33rd is closed for the conversion to Cash Saver. d-usa 02-22-2016, 08:12 PM Thanks. I do like the Meat Market, the only downside to it is that its just a bit out of the way for the usual trip. Although I do go to the YMCA at Mitch Park, so it wouldn't be hard to stop by there. I also like Sprouts, if there was one closer than all the other places I would probably go there. I think the closest to me would be the one on 2nd street? I guess it's only a couple more miles away than the Aldi though. bradh 02-22-2016, 09:04 PM How does buying bulk meat at Sprouts compare to Sam's? We can load up on ground beef and chicken at Sam's and not have to go back for like 6 weeks. We talking like another 25% in cost if we did the same at Sprouts (for what I would assume is better meat)? zookeeper 02-22-2016, 11:48 PM Strangely enough, the independent grocery store "Eley's" at NW 31st and May has the best butcher shop in town. They take it seriously and it is gooood. Eley's is also a very nice, clean store which should prove to Homeland at 18th & Classen that "old" doesn't have to mean run-down and dirty. We go out of our way to buy our meat at Eley's. And other stuff, too. They're weekly specials can many times be better than great! Eley's Foods - Grocery - Oklahoma City, OK - Reviews - Photos - Yelp (http://www.yelp.com/biz/eleys-foods-oklahoma-city) turnpup 02-23-2016, 07:25 AM Strangely enough, the independent grocery store "Eley's" at NW 31st and May has the best butcher shop in town. They take it seriously and it is gooood. Eley's is also a very nice, clean store which should prove to Homeland at 18th & Classen that "old" doesn't have to mean run-down and dirty. We go out of our way to buy our meat at Eley's. And other stuff, too. They're weekly specials can many times be better than great! Eley's Foods - Grocery - Oklahoma City, OK - Reviews - Photos - Yelp (http://www.yelp.com/biz/eleys-foods-oklahoma-city) ^^^^^ Like! We recently moved downtown-ish, so Eley's is no longer a viable option for us. Very much miss them. It was so easy to just pop in there and get basic stuff. Never used their butcher shop, but heard good things about it from others. Bunty 02-23-2016, 07:00 PM If I had a choice, I would fix this problem over probably any other problem discussed on this website!!! I get that a lot when entering I-35 from Guthrie. People only want to speed up to 40 or 50 mph just before entering. I would assume people who don't know how are afraid they will cause an accident entering the freeway near the speed limit. Stage 4: Highway Merging : Driver?s Ed Guru (http://www.driversedguru.com/drivers-ed-training-exercises/stage-4/stage-4-highway-merging/) Pete 02-24-2016, 07:19 PM Strangely enough, the independent grocery store "Eley's" at NW 31st and May has the best butcher shop in town. They take it seriously and it is gooood. Eley's is also a very nice, clean store which should prove to Homeland at 18th & Classen that "old" doesn't have to mean run-down and dirty. We go out of our way to buy our meat at Eley's. And other stuff, too. They're weekly specials can many times be better than great! Eley's Foods - Grocery - Oklahoma City, OK - Reviews - Photos - Yelp (http://www.yelp.com/biz/eleys-foods-oklahoma-city) Thanks for this. I am going to give them a try. terryinokc 03-18-2016, 08:44 AM Don't know if this should be under "Quality Grocery Stores in OKC"....but it is news. At least three Buy For Less locations--23 & Penn, Norman and Yukon are going to be changing formats and names. Can't say what the new names will be, but they are going to change to the cost plus 10% format like Cash Saver. This is supposed to happen around Easter. Haven't been in any of these three stores in a long time, but last time I was they were pretty tired and run down. Maybe they will be doing some light remodeling or sprucing up. stile99 03-18-2016, 10:02 AM Well that sucks. The BFL in Yukon is on my regular stop list. Homeland in Mustang hasn't even changed yet and has gone to complete crap (not that it had far to fall) already. They seem to have stopped honoring half of the Homeland ads. If BFL isn't going to honor their ads (which I already have to look online for, the one that arrives in the mail arrives two-three days after the previous week's sale has ended) I really have no reason to shop there anymore. baralheia 03-18-2016, 02:16 PM I heard a Homeland commercial on the radio today and the ad specified that the specials were only good at two stores (I can't remember which ones). Doesn't bode well for them, in my opinion. bchris02 03-18-2016, 02:51 PM I heard a Homeland commercial on the radio today and the ad specified that the specials were only good at two stores (I can't remember which ones). Doesn't bode well for them, in my opinion. Wish they would get bought out. That would be better for OKC in the long run than their current path of slowly going out of business. Hopefully if liquor reform passes in November it leads to national and regional chain grocers taking a closer look at the OKC market. jerrywall 03-18-2016, 03:01 PM Hopefully if liquor reform passes in November it leads to national and regional chain grocers taking a closer look at the OKC market. Doubt it. The biggest hurdle from grocery stores entering the market is Wal-Mart's prevalence. The best fix for that is for them to see stores like Trader Joes, Sprouts, Whole Foods, etc doing well. Uptowner 03-18-2016, 03:03 PM Hopefully if liquor reform passes in November it leads to national and regional chain grocers taking a closer look at the OKC market. That would be my bet. which would lead existing stores to either close, up their game, or in the case of any stores built in the last 5 years, expand. windowphobe 03-18-2016, 05:03 PM I heard a Homeland commercial on the radio today and the ad specified that the specials were only good at two stores (I can't remember which ones). Doesn't bode well for them, in my opinion. Britton and May; 122nd and Rockwell. Soonerman 03-18-2016, 08:39 PM Kroner Marketplace would be awesome for OKC. stile99 03-22-2016, 01:30 PM Not sure where to post this, but since it was brought up here, I'll go for here. The rumors of Buy For Less's demise were greatly...on target. Picked this flyer up from the Yukon store earlier today. 12392 corwin1968 03-22-2016, 06:01 PM Wish they would get bought out. That would be better for OKC in the long run than their current path of slowly going out of business. Hopefully if liquor reform passes in November it leads to national and regional chain grocers taking a closer look at the OKC market. They've been doing that since I went to work for them in 1988. I left in 1995 and I remember coming to OKC to visit friends and I went grocery shopping with my friend's wife and I was blown away by the CREST at 164th & Santa Fe! Twenty-one years later, my wife and I shop at that same store but I love going into Uptown Grocery, just impulse buying whatever looks interesting. bchris02 03-22-2016, 06:10 PM Not sure where to post this, but since it was brought up here, I'll go for here. The rumors of Buy For Less's demise were greatly...on target. Picked this flyer up from the Yukon store earlier today. 12392 Do you know if the Buy for Less on NW Expressway will remain a Buy for Less? stile99 03-23-2016, 11:44 AM Unfortunately I've no information on the NW Expressway location, and probably won't have a chance to get there in the next couple days. I've not done a side by side comparison, and of course once the switch is flipped there's nothing saying the prices won't change, but comparing this week's BFL ad with this week's Homeland ad, I am not happy. BFL has Blue Bell ice cream for $4.44. Add the 10% and you get $4.88, the price Homeland has. Kraft singles are $1.88 for a 12 oz package. After adding 10% that's $2.07, Homeland has them 2 for $4. Folgers coffee is $5.99 and both, but that's $6.60 with 10% added. Kraft Mayo or Miracle Whip $2.88 at BFL, so $3.17 after 10% added. Homeland $2.99. stile99 03-23-2016, 11:45 AM Grrrr. Another double post. Video Expert 03-23-2016, 01:51 PM Unfortunately I've no information on the NW Expressway location, and probably won't have a chance to get there in the next couple days. I've not done a side by side comparison, and of course once the switch is flipped there's nothing saying the prices won't change, but comparing this week's BFL ad with this week's Homeland ad, I am not happy. BFL has Blue Bell ice cream for $4.44. Add the 10% and you get $4.88, the price Homeland has. Kraft singles are $1.88 for a 12 oz package. After adding 10% that's $2.07, Homeland has them 2 for $4. Folgers coffee is $5.99 and both, but that's $6.60 with 10% added. Kraft Mayo or Miracle Whip $2.88 at BFL, so $3.17 after 10% added. Homeland $2.99. I'm not sure if you can use BFL's current ad pricing to compare because that will supposedly change at these two stores. I was told by a store manager that all items will be marked at "cost", and then 10% will be added to each item at the register. (And I guess we're just supposed to trust them when they say they have all these items marked at "cost") The pricing BFL currently has is "retail" except for their loss leaders. This is just my opinion, but I think what will happen is that if you buy all of your grocery items at one of these new concept stores, you'll most likely save more than if you bought all of your grocery items at a current BFL. However because of the "everything at cost" plus 10% pricing, it stands to reason that you are not going to see loss leader sale items that many times are priced well below cost to get you in the store where they figure they can make it up with their overpriced non-sale items. What I think is currently happening is many people shop a BFL for their loss leaders and then go elsewhere to round out their grocery buying because much like Homeland, their general pricing on some items is just crazy high. As a result, these stores aren't as profitable. That's my theory on why they are making the switch at these two stores. And if it works out for them at these locations, they most likely will convert one or two more. Soonerman 03-23-2016, 10:33 PM Kroner Marketplace would be awesome for OKC. Sorry I meant Kroger Marketplace. Pete 03-24-2016, 02:04 PM As far as Buy for Less is concerned, I spoke to Susan Binowski (owner of parent company of Buy for Less, Smart Saver and Uptown Grocery) and she said only the Norman and Yukon stores will be converted. There are no plans to change or renovate the other BFL locations at this time. stile99 03-28-2016, 06:31 PM She didn't happen to mention a website, did she? Buy For Less has one, Uptown Grocery has one. Can't find one for Smart Saver, but that might be because that's the same name as some malware apparently, so tons of results are returned regarding that. Since the Yukon BFL has had a habit for awhile now of sending ads 2-3 days after the sale expires, I've taken to checking the website. Don't know if Smart Saver is going to mail ads, and if they do, if they will be sent before or after the sale ends. bchris02 03-30-2016, 03:56 PM Does anybody know what is happening with Buy for Less at 23rd and Penn? They are currently in the process of repainting the inside of it. I asked the cashier last night what they are planning on doing and her words were "we are not sure yet." I don't believe that is the case though. bchris02 03-30-2016, 03:57 PM Does anybody know what is happening with Buy for Less at 23rd and Penn? They are currently in the process of repainting the inside of it. I asked the cashier last night what they are planning on doing and her words were "we are not sure yet." I don't believe that is the case though. They recently changed their hours and are no longer 24 hours like they once were. checkthat 03-30-2016, 04:12 PM Does anybody know what is happening with Buy for Less at 23rd and Penn? They are currently in the process of repainting the inside of it. I asked the cashier last night what they are planning on doing and her words were "we are not sure yet." I don't believe that is the case though. They recently changed their hours and are no longer 24 hours like they once were. stile99 mentioned up thread that it is changing to their at-cost +10% at the register model. bchris02 03-30-2016, 04:20 PM stile99 mentioned up thread that it is changing to their at-cost +10% at the register model. Pete said above that only the Norman and Yukon locations were being converted. Is that not the case? Jersey Boss 03-30-2016, 04:31 PM ^^^^^ If you look at the flier that was posted in post # 686, it is clear that the only two locations making the change are Yukon and Norman. Jersey Boss 03-30-2016, 04:33 PM stile99 mentioned up thread that it is changing to their at-cost +10% at the register model. Unless I'm blind I don't see where that poster said that 23rd is changing. bchris02 03-30-2016, 04:34 PM ^^^^^ If you look at the flier that was posted in post # 686, it is clear that the only two locations making the change are Yukon and Norman. True, yet something is happening at 23rd and Penn. Curious as to what they are doing. stile99 03-30-2016, 05:39 PM Unless I'm blind I don't see where that poster said that 23rd is changing. Don't feel bad, I don't recall saying it either. B-) stile99 03-31-2016, 12:22 PM I'll keep this brief, as I don't have much positive to say. Went to the Yukon location of Smart Saver today and was completely unimpressed. Some (SOME, not all) of the prices in their ad (ad was in-store, not sure if they intend to mail them or set up a website or just leave them in the store) were pretty good. Some were just barely under what a regular sale price would be. For instance, Totino's Party Pizzas are 79 cents. I very often see these on sale for 99 cents or even 88 cents, so once you add the 10% to the 79 cents this really isn't that great. Kraft Mac and Cheese 68 cents. Plus 10% would be 74 cents. Regular price at Walmart 98 cents. To be fair, the price for KC Masterpiece seems to be a steal if you like that sauce...99 cents (before markup) for a 28 oz bottle. That's the prices in the sale (no, this is not every single thing listed in the ad). Now the regular prices. You're kidding me. You're absolutely kidding me. Someone has GOT to be pulling some kind of joke here. Everything not listed in the sale paper was either the same price it was last week or higher. A can of soup that was $1.25 last week was still priced at $1.25, except now of course it is really $1.37...or $1.38 if they round up. The only possible answer is they haven't changed the prices 'yet' and still intend to, but if this is so what were they doing for the three days they were closed? Bottom line, I left the store completely unimpressed. Since there were a few things in Aldi's ad I wanted, I then went there and actually got offended. I don't know what game Smart Saver is playing, but when you shop there and then shop at Aldi it's not funny at all. And again, the posted prices are BEFORE a 10% surcharge is added, and then tax on top of that. soonergooner 04-03-2016, 08:05 AM Could someone on this board bother to quantify "Quality grocery store?" Is it price? Ease of finding what you need? Consistent quality at a "fair price?" Best in store Starbucks? Being in the industry, I have observed these discussions and have never been able to understand the disappointment with the offerings in our city. We have not had as many "upscale" options as some would like, if you ignored Crescent market the was locally owned but was run out of business so Whole foods could have the run of Nichols Hills. "Stile99" has piqued my inquiry today as I was slightly involved with the transition to super saver in Yukon. Let it be known, early results are quite positive. He/she is clearly a well developed cherry picker, bless his/her heart. But his/her assertion that some prices were the same is wrong. EVERY price tag and sign was changed to reflect the new marketing strategy. If a price went up, generally it was because it was formerly a hold down price with the new price reflective of actual cost. 99 was not impressed as the new theme undercuts her/his shopping style. 99 spends much time and effort finding the cheapest can of corn in greater Yukon. Many are finding filled baskets cost less than the old pricing structure of loss leaders. Anyway, back to "quality." What might your top 3 or 4 quality issues with your grocers. Mine - Convenience - closer/better. Cleanliness - IS next to good. Consistency - trustworthiness is big in my book. bchris02 04-03-2016, 11:59 AM Could someone on this board bother to quantify "Quality grocery store?" Is it price? Ease of finding what you need? Consistent quality at a "fair price?" Best in store Starbucks? Being in the industry, I have observed these discussions and have never been able to understand the disappointment with the offerings in our city. We have not had as many "upscale" options as some would like, if you ignored Crescent market the was locally owned but was run out of business so Whole foods could have the run of Nichols Hills. Anyway, back to "quality." What might your top 3 or 4 quality issues with your grocers. Mine - Convenience - closer/better. Cleanliness - IS next to good. Consistency - trustworthiness is big in my book. This issue is most apparent to those who have lived in other cities. There is a lot less to complain about with OKC's grocery scene than there was just a few years ago. With Uptown Grocery opening at May and Britton, Homeland remodeling their 122nd and Rockwell store, Sprouts opening several new locations, Crest opening a new Fresh Market in Norman, and WinCo and Trader Joes both on their way, there are more options now. Five years ago, before Whole Foods came in, Wal-Mart neighborhood market was about as good as it got here. If there is an easy way to sum up the problem with OKC's grocery market its that Homeland doesn't pull its weight and it is the ONLY mid-tier grocery chain in the metro. Homeland is inconsistent being that you have great stores like 122nd and Rockwell and awful stores like 18th and Classen. Other major chains like Kroger and H-E-B do have their nicer locations and their not-as-nice locations, but you will be hard to find one of those stores that has been let go as far as the 18th and Classen Homeland. Even if the location is older and is not as "pretty" as the nicer locations, the older locations should be as clean, well-stocked, and provide comparable customer service to the nice locations. The 18th and Classen Homeland completely misses the mark and its hard to believe its even the same chain as stores like May and Britton and 122nd and Rockwell. Aside from Homeland, your only options in OKC are discount grocers (Wal-Mart, Buy For Less, Crest) or upscale specialty grocers (Whole Foods, Natural Grocers, Sprouts). The biggest issue is there isn't really an acceptable full-service grocery store in the urban core. If something like Uptown Grocery opened up somewhere downtown, Midtown, or even 23rd St, that would solve a lot of the remaining complaints about the grocery scene here. For me, "quality" is clean, consistent, convenient, easy to find what I am looking for, well-stocked, and NOT Wal-Mart. turnpup 04-03-2016, 05:12 PM ^^^^^ What BChris said, except I wouldn't mind if it were a *nice* Walmart Neighborhood Market (see, Bentonville Promenade area, for example). corwin1968 04-03-2016, 05:25 PM ^^^^^ What BChris said, except I wouldn't mind if it were a *nice* Walmart Neighborhood Market (see, Bentonville Promenade area, for example). I would add that I like a grocery store that has a lot of "extras", preferably upscale and/or unique extras. Crest just installed a self-serve olive bar and it's a small, simple thing but I LOVE it! I buy something from it every time we go to Crest. Also, a store with a lot of room, both horizontal and vertical, is nice. I love the bakery/deli/specialty section of Uptown Grocery and I like the fact that the regular grocery shelves both there and at Crest are almost always "faced" and neat looking. I guess for me it's modern, clean, attractive and has a good selection of both routine and unique items. Canoe 04-03-2016, 06:52 PM I am willing to pay more for better quality. The homeland on prime land between Classen and Western only offers convenience. In fact in our family we call it the convenient store. It is thought of in the same class of store as Oncue. If you are to lazy to drive to NW Expressway or if you want to some exercise or if you need 1 onion for a recipe are then you go. Until you take that store seriously, you will never get my family's weekly grocery basket. It is a real shame bordering on stupidity, and Oklahomans hate stupidity. soonergooner 04-04-2016, 04:26 AM Homeland needs to address their inaction at 18th and Classen, for sure. It would have been better if Darrel had not said anything about the location. Downtown grocers in OKC is really going to be interesting to watch. Where and what would a downtown Uptown look like? Heads and dollars always dictates grocery investments, and is the reason behind 18 and Classen. Longtime Okc residents are all delighted to see what is going on downtown/uptown. Wonderful. 18th and Classen is what it is because of lower numbers in their service radius plus those bodies lower cash values. Also Hispanic Asian growth seriously effected sales. Changing inner city numbers make new options inevitable. As the city is still more horizontal than vertical, access and parking will have toe in the equation. Those expenses will have to be folded into pricing making it once again occasional/store of last resort. No parking? How many of the new city hoarde will carry 80lbs of weekly groceries 12 city blocks? The larger cities I visit all have local small quick markets. All have nice fresh limited variety. Expansion of those sort of options will expand as the city dwellers numbers expand, at some point a bigger store will become viable. Thanks to those that responded. bchris02 04-04-2016, 09:39 AM Homeland needs to address their inaction at 18th and Classen, for sure. It would have been better if Darrel had not said anything about the location. Downtown grocers in OKC is really going to be interesting to watch. Where and what would a downtown Uptown look like? Heads and dollars always dictates grocery investments, and is the reason behind 18 and Classen. Longtime Okc residents are all delighted to see what is going on downtown/uptown. Wonderful. 18th and Classen is what it is because of lower numbers in their service radius plus those bodies lower cash values. Also Hispanic Asian growth seriously effected sales. Changing inner city numbers make new options inevitable. As the city is still more horizontal than vertical, access and parking will have toe in the equation. Those expenses will have to be folded into pricing making it once again occasional/store of last resort. No parking? How many of the new city hoarde will carry 80lbs of weekly groceries 12 city blocks? The larger cities I visit all have local small quick markets. All have nice fresh limited variety. Expansion of those sort of options will expand as the city dwellers numbers expand, at some point a bigger store will become viable. Thanks to those that responded. 18th and Classen is far enough north it should be able to pull from the high-income neighborhoods of Heritage Hills/Mesta Park along with Jefferson Park, Edgemere Park, and the rest of that area. It's also convenient enough to downtown. There is a large customer base to pull from, most of whom would prefer to have a more convenient alternative to having to drive to NW Expressway to go grocery shopping. Part of the reason more people don't shop there is because the location is so awful. I don't think lack of rooftops is the reason today. It may have been the case 15-20 years ago but in 2016, there is enough rooftops to support a quality grocery store somewhere in the urban core. Maybe not in downtown proper quite yet, but somewhere south of 36th between Classen and Broadway. Bunty 04-04-2016, 09:15 PM 18th and Classen is far enough north it should be able to pull from the high-income neighborhoods of Heritage Hills/Mesta Park along with Jefferson Park, Edgemere Park, and the rest of that area. It's also convenient enough to downtown. There is a large customer base to pull from, most of whom would prefer to have a more convenient alternative to having to drive to NW Expressway to go grocery shopping. Part of the reason more people don't shop there is because the location is so awful. It's awful where NW Expressway was not planned with side roads. I discovered that getting into On the Border Restaurant directly is a problem when going west. bchris02 05-03-2016, 12:38 AM With Natural Grocers going into the Gold Dome and Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market potentially going near the 21c Hotel or in east Bricktown, it's now or never for the 18th and Classen Homeland. If they don't remodel soon, I doubt the store will be open in 3 years. jdcf 06-13-2016, 01:18 PM Last week visited Tulsa Trader Joe's, Jenks Reasor's, and Tulsa Reasor's on Peoria. The Reasor's on Peoria was impressive in terms of design and product selection. IMO it sets a standard that is above anything in OKC although Uptown Grocery might come close. Jersey Boss 06-21-2016, 11:07 AM Interesting article on BLOOMBERG about evolving trends in the grocery game and marketing to the millennial crowd. Article compares and contrasts ALDI, 365 ( Whole Foods related entity) and some others. http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/whole-foods-is-getting-killed-by-aldi-is-a-millennial-grocery-chain-the-fix/ar-AAhmnzJ?li=BBnbfcL Soonerman 06-25-2016, 06:35 PM I'm surprised Reasor's isn't in Oklahoma city, They would be a huge step up to what OKC has now. Dustin 07-08-2016, 08:28 PM Oh man... I am so impressed with the Sprouts on MacArthur. Everything was so fresh and the isles are easily shoppable. By far my favorite grocery store in the city. Only complaint is they were out of mint! Martin 07-08-2016, 09:07 PM ^ no kidding. i'm not usually in that part of town but happened to be in the area and stopped by a few weeks ago. it's a really impressive store. my only gripe, and each of the sprouts locations i've visited suffer from this, is that ordering anything from the deli counter is a painfully slow process. don't know why it takes them so much longer than other places. -M Pete 07-09-2016, 09:07 AM ^ Yes, the one time I was in that Sprouts there was a huge line at the deli counter and the store wasn't super busy. But, I'd love to see more of them in OKC. Martin 07-09-2016, 03:42 PM But, I'd love to see more of them in OKC. absolutely... all in all it's a great chain. i'm really hoping to see one in south okc sooner than later. -M |