The only thing I could think of is Bass Pro, does anyone know if there is a Cabelas and a Bass Pro in the same city?
We have a Bass Pro in the Stapleton area along I-70 and two Cabela's are supposed to open next month along I-25, one in Thornton (north) and one in Lone Tree (south). Cabela's is in expansion mode but with smaller stores than the one that is in Buda, Texas (South suburb of Austin).

Cost Plus is also here in Colorado with no wine sales.

We have a Bass Pro in the Stapleton area along I-70 and two Cabela's are supposed to open next month along I-25, one in Thornton (north) and one in Lone Tree (south). Cabela's is in expansion mode but with smaller stores than the one that is in Buda, Texas (South suburb of Austin).

Cost Plus is also here in Colorado with no wine sales.Wow, that pretty darn impressive! Do you know by any chance how big they are?

The Thornton store is supposed to be around 90,000 sf and the Lone Tree store around 110,000 sf according to this Denver Post article (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20486022/cabelas-confirms-it-will-open-two-new-stores). The store in Buda is 185,000 sf.

Here's a Denver Business Journal article (www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2013/02/22/cabelas-trying-new-strategy-in-colorado.html) about the new strategy of opening up two stores simultaneously in the same market.

The Thornton store is supposed to be around 90,000 sf and the Lone Tree store around 110,000 sf according to this Denver Post article (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20486022/cabelas-confirms-it-will-open-two-new-stores). The store in Buda is 185,000 sf.

Here's a Denver Business Journal article (www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2013/02/22/cabelas-trying-new-strategy-in-colorado.html) about the new strategy of opening up two stores simultaneously in the same market.

Dick's did the same thing in OKC.

The Thornton store is supposed to be around 90,000 sf and the Lone Tree store around 110,000 sf according to this Denver Post article (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20486022/cabelas-confirms-it-will-open-two-new-stores). The store in Buda is 185,000 sf.

Here's a Denver Business Journal article (www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2013/02/22/cabelas-trying-new-strategy-in-colorado.html) about the new strategy of opening up two stores simultaneously in the same market.That's pretty good size. I guess one here would work in Edmond they could maybe build another in the future. As ljbab stated, Dick's went crazy a year ago building something like 5 new stores at once. That really shows how much they trusted the market here. I was hoping that might give some other retailers some confidence here. Maybe it has and we are seriously being looked at or even planned by people we keep saying will never come here, who knows. ;)

If thats the case, Why do they have stores in Kansas? Kansas has very similar liquor laws as Oklahoma.

The main factor is that they can sell high point beer and wine... That's really the main difference.

I thought their laws prohibit wine sales unless it's in a liquor store. Back on topic I think Gander Mountain would do well in OKC.

I thought their laws prohibit wine sales unless it's in a liquor store. Back on topic I think Gander Mountain would do well in OKC.

You might be right... I'll be in Wichita this weekend and I'll run into the World Market to see what they are selling. I can hit a golf ball to it from my parent's back patio...

I think out of everything listed here, here is who is NOT coming to OKC.

IKEA
Nordstrom
Saks Fifth Avenue
Fry's Electronics
Louis Vuitton
Tiffany & Co

I think out of everything listed here, here is who is NOT coming to OKC.

IKEA
Nordstrom
Saks Fifth Avenue
Fry's Electronics
Louis Vuitton
Tiffany & Co

How insightful to list which stores you think won't come in a thread about stores we wish we had in OKC. ;) lol

I think out of everything listed here, here is who is NOT coming to OKC.

IKEA
Nordstrom
Saks Fifth Avenue
Fry's Electronics
Louis Vuitton
Tiffany & CoWhy don't you think a Fry's will not be here???? That crushes my dreams lol, but seriously though, I kind of thought that might actually be a realistic possibility in the next 3-8 years. . . :/

Why don't you think a Fry's will not be here???? That crushes my dreams lol, but seriously though, I kind of thought that might actually be a realistic possibility in the next 3-8 years. . . :/

I would like to see a Fry's probably as much as anybody here.

However, like IKEA, they only locate in large markets. In fact I would say they are even more selective than IKEA in terms of locations. On top of that, the brick and mortar electronics superstore model is not the success it once was thanks to competition from online retailers.

IKEA!

Tiffany & CO (not gonna happen)

Potbelly's Restaurant

Johnny Rocket's Restaurant

LUSH Cosmetics/Bath products store

And locations you think would best suit them.

1. Ikea (I-35 in Edmond. It would work for all the colleges in oklahoma and most of Kansas)
2. Trader Joe's (downtown)
3. Costco (not sure where to put it, probably out on I-40)
4. Crate and Barrel (Classen Curve area)
5. Kate Spade (Penn Square Mall) so my wife will quit complaining about driving three hours to shop there

Ditto this.

Ikea would be good-- perfect for college kids and all the young newly married couples buying cheap furniture.

Trader Joe's downtown sounds like a good match.

IKEA!

Tiffany & CO (not gonna happen)

Potbelly's Restaurant

Johnny Rocket's Restaurant

LUSH Cosmetics/Bath products store

There's already a LUSH in Penn Square! Congrats!

My top 5:

Costco
Ikea
Trader Joe's
Urban Outfitters
High-End Department Store (Nordstrom, Saks, Lord&Taylor)

City Target in downtown OKC
http://bettercities.net/sites/default/files/city-target_0.jpg

Uptown Grocery in Midtown
http://yesus.info/wp-content/gallery/grocery/grocery16.jpg

Costco - anywhere!

REI - anywhere!

Trader Joe's or Central Market - anywhere!

Of course if the "anywhere" could be close to my house it would be nice. :D

At a Costco in the Bay Area right now, oh how I would kill to have one of these somewhere in OKC. Their wine is in the store with everything else. I wonder how well they would do in OKC.

Naturally Kroger would skip over OK, just like Costco in KS and TX, or Trader Joes in KS and TX, and so many others... Sigh..

Kroger used to be in Oklahoma, back in the 30's.

There is only 3.2% beer in the Costco stores here in Colorado, I don't recall seeing the separate but adjacent liquor stores (Havana & Florida, Lone Tree and Parker locations) like some of the Sam's Club stores here have or like the Costco stores in Austin had (beer/wine in the store). Liquor stores here are open seven days a week.

I'm mainly thinking hunting/fishing. If OSU is anything A&M there are plenty of young guys up there who'd love to spend their cash there.

There's plenty of deer and wild turkey up there to interest them. Since Stillwater has a Best Buy, maybe it can have a Cabella's, too, should it develop an interest in expanding to the bigger growing small towns.

A Fry's would be nice.

+1

Is the one on SW 104th and May? I always thought they had an expansive meat and deli selection as well as their produce being very good. I have been to Publix in Florida, Reasor's in the Tulsa area as well as a few Kroger's in Texas and I think this one tops them all. Maybe I am not going to as nice of stores in the other areas?

+1, Crest is excellent.

Heard an ad for REI on the Sports Animal this afternoon. Anyone know why they would advertise in a market where they don't have a presence?

Heard an ad for REI on the Sports Animal this afternoon. Anyone know why they would advertise in a market where they don't have a presence?

Online shoppers would be my guess.

Heard an ad for REI on the Sports Animal this afternoon. Anyone know why they would advertise in a market where they don't have a presence?

Anything a station runs that is syndicated is either live or delayed. If it's live, the commercials, as bought for all markets, will run whether there's a presence or not. If it's delayed, the ads still have to run in a certain time block, and those can be aired in even local programming, but they still must be aired, presence of the advertiser in the market or not. National buys sometimes make good sense for advertisers who can reach a mass audience cheaper with special bundled deals than if they purchased market by market or even regional buys. I'm sure REI has a quality agency that knows all the '"deals" available on national buys at any given time and avail themselves of them. Bigger companies don't have to watch for those so closely as they buy and lock-in long-term national buys.

Heard an ad for REI on the Sports Animal this afternoon. Anyone know why they would advertise in a market where they don't have a presence?

I've heard REI ads on local radio before (around the holidays, IIRC).

I was wondering about White Castle? Anyone know why they haven't built here?

I was wondering about White Castle? Anyone know why they haven't built here?

I love White Castle, but they are a Northern and Midwestern chain. Tennessee is the only Southern state that has them. There was talk a couple of years ago about them expanding into North Carolina, but it hasn't materialized. I think OKC will see In-n-Out Burger before White Castle.

I was in Tulsa today, and made a quick stop at The fresh Market and was really impressed. Of course, no idea why their first location was in Tulsa and not OKC. I guess it's too good for the likes of OKC. It would be really nice if we had one of those.

Tulsa is a beta market for restaurants.... Maybe the same for retail as well

Not sure where to post this, but I noticed this quip in the local rag a few weeks ago. Thought you guys might be interested.

Von Maur plans first New York location - Omaha.com (http://www.omaha.com/article/20130921/MONEY/130929801)


Von Maur, which offers men’s, women’s and children’s apparel from such brands as Brooks Brothers, Nic & Zoe, Joe’s Jeans and Tommy Bahama, was founded in Davenport in the late 1800s.

The family-owned company now operates 27 stores in 11 states, including stores in Lincoln and Omaha, and an online business at vonmaur.com. The Rochester-area store will be the company’s 28th store.

Von Maur plans to open a store in Alabama in November and an Oklahoma location in November 2014.

damn, they're not going to open Quail Springs till November next year? You sure that's not supposed to be this year?

damn, they're not going to open Quail Springs till November next year? You sure that's not supposed to be this year?

Next year. I've heard the condition of the Sears building was so poor its not an easy changeover.

damn, they're not going to open Quail Springs till November next year? You sure that's not supposed to be this year?

That old Sears store needs a lot of work done to it, So I can see it being open in November 2014.

Ok, so for the first time in my life I stepped foot into a Trader Joe's in Dallas (Greenville neighborhood location, if that matters) and I didn't see what the big deal was. Now, granted we were in there for all of five minutes to look around since I had never been, but can someone explain to me the obsession with getting TJ's here? It looked like a smaller Whole Foods to me.

Ok, so for the first time in my life I stepped foot into a Trader Joe's in Dallas (Greenville neighborhood location, if that matters) and I didn't see what the big deal was. Now, granted we were in there for all of five minutes to look around since I had never been, but can someone explain to me the obsession with getting TJ's here? It looked like a smaller Whole Foods to me.

Their prices tend to be extremely low. Nice environment, high quality products, some unique products, low prices.

Their prices tend to be extremely low. Nice environment, high quality products, some unique products, low prices.

Maybe I just didn't spend enough time in there. Thanks for the reply.

Ok, so for the first time in my life I stepped foot into a Trader Joe's in Dallas (Greenville neighborhood location, if that matters) and I didn't see what the big deal was. Now, granted we were in there for all of five minutes to look around since I had never been, but can someone explain to me the obsession with getting TJ's here? It looked like a smaller Whole Foods to me.

Trader Joe's is best for the alcohol. Of course, if we get one here it won't be able to sell the alcohol, but their beers and wines are excellent at a very low price.

Their prices tend to be extremely low. Nice environment, high quality products, some unique products, low prices.

My brother in LA lives within walking distance of both a Trader Joe's and a Whole Foods. He considers both to be too expensive and never shops at either.

I've been hearing about this store, didn't realize they only have 61 total, but are in growth mode.

Anyone ever been ( I have not) ? or Anyone want one in OKC?

http://www.containerstore.com/locations/showStore.htm?store=GAL

locations
http://www.containerstore.com/locations/index.htm

because we always need a new sandwich shop or two to try out...

Togo's - Menu (http://www.togos.com/What-s-To-Eat/Hot-Sandwiches.aspx)

this one looks like its run by hippies!

http://chebahut.com/locations/

I've been hearing about this store, didn't realize they only have 61 total, but are in growth mode.

Anyone ever been ( I have not) ? or Anyone want one in OKC?

http://www.containerstore.com/locations/showStore.htm?store=GAL

locations
http://www.containerstore.com/locations/index.htm

My speculation is the only reason The Container Store isn't in OKC is the lack of a real upscale shopping center. If a lifestyle center, even a small one, ever gets built in OKC it is very likely they will be a tenant.

My speculation is the only reason The Container Store isn't in OKC is the lack of a real upscale shopping center. If a lifestyle center, even a small one, ever gets built in OKC it is very likely they will be a tenant.

That may be, however The Container Store in The Woodlands is on a standalone pad site adjacent to The Woodlands Mall. Even though there is a lifestyle center nearby, The Container Store did not locate there. The Woodlands Mall is on the same caliber as Penn Square Mall, even though one of there anchors was vacated to make way for construction of a Nordstrom's. However, The Container Store located there long before a Nordstrom's was ever announced.

That being said, a lifestyle or upscale shopping center is not a requirement for The Container Store, as the box it is currently operating in was formerly Circuit City.

The Container Store is the only non-local I would get worked up over. It's a pretty special place. I would also be excited if you could transport a circa 1998 Restoration Hardware here. As for today's RH, you might as well put in a Pottery Barn. It is a completely different (and I have no doubt far more profitable) animal today.

I still love RH, although their furniture is not all unique to the brand. They're about the only mail order catalog I would buy furniture from. I just bought a bed from them that is so sturdy I can't move it. I'm still trying to figure out how Im going to get a rug under it. But, their style is definitely not for everyone and their prices aren't low. They have sales so often, though, that I would never pay full price. I would be very happy to have a store here, personally.

My speculation is the only reason The Container Store isn't in OKC is the lack of a real upscale shopping center. If a lifestyle center, even a small one, ever gets built in OKC it is very likely they will be a tenant.

There is a Container Store in Dallas right across from Northpark Mall next to a Barnes and Noble, Tom Thumb and a Wells Fargo Bank. I would hardly call this upscale, but I guess being in close proximity to NP helps. They could always put one in the Belle Isle Shopping Center if a correct space ever opens up. It is right next to PSM which is the most upscale shopping in OKC, IMHO.

There is a Container Store in Dallas right across from Northpark Mall next to a Barnes and Noble, Tom Thumb and a Wells Fargo Bank. I would hardly call this upscale, but I guess being in close proximity to NP helps. They could always put one in the Belle Isle Shopping Center if a correct space ever opens up. It is right next to PSM which is the most upscale shopping in OKC, IMHO.

I would say it would be more likely to go somewhere along Memorial near QSM. Belle Isle is a low-end, Wal-Mart shopping center and I doubt the Container Store would go there. The area near SuperTarget may be a good fit, as it's one of the nicest outdoor shopping centers in OKC. University North Park in Norman may also be an alright fit.

Don't think OKC will be in the running for one of these quite yet, but maybe in the next 5 years if the concept is adopted to more locations.

Target Tests Small Store for Urban Shoppers as Young People Pick Cities Over Suburbs (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/17/business/target-is-testing-a-small-store-for-city-shoppers.html?_r=1)

I've been hearing about this store, didn't realize they only have 61 total, but are in growth mode.

Anyone ever been ( I have not) ? or Anyone want one in OKC?

http://www.containerstore.com/locations/showStore.htm?store=GAL

locations
http://www.containerstore.com/locations/index.htm


My speculation is the only reason The Container Store isn't in OKC is the lack of a real upscale shopping center. If a lifestyle center, even a small one, ever gets built in OKC it is very likely they will be a tenant.

I've been to several, and it fills a good niche in the marketplace. OKC was supposed to get one a few years ago before the market tanked in 2008. It was part of Chesapeake's aggressive retail growth plans. It was supposed to go on the SW Corner of NW Expressway and Penn, where the old Salvation HQ was(is). In typical CHK fashion, they overpaid for the property and then the market tanked as well as all the legal troubles with CHK. Not sure if they are still interested in the market, but it wouldn't surprise me if they are just waiting for the right development at this point.

Gordon Biersch. Would be a great addition to Bricktown or Penn Square.

Gordon Biersch (http://www.gordonbiersch.com)

Just to reiterate that HEB is (unfortunately) not coming any time soon, they are slowing down their expansion in DFW.

San Antonio Business Journal - Whoa! H-E-B tempers prediction of rapid growth in DFW (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/blog/morning-edition/2014/01/whoa-h-e-b-tempers-prediction-of.html)

Just to reiterate that HEB is (unfortunately) not coming any time soon, they are slowing down their expansion in DFW.

San Antonio Business Journal - Whoa! H-E-B tempers prediction of rapid growth in DFW (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/blog/morning-edition/2014/01/whoa-h-e-b-tempers-prediction-of.html)

If OKC ever gets a real major grocery chain it is highly unlikely to be H-E-B. I would say it would probably be Kroger or Reasor's.

Wasn't sure where to post this but I came across it and wanted to post it because it hits the nail on the head.

A Downtown ontheRange: Buyer's Remorse in OKC (http://downtownontherange.blogspot.com/2010/05/buyers-remorse-in-okc.html)

The article was printed in 2010 so OKC has covered some ground since then. OKC now has Whole Foods, Anthropolgie, Coach, Fossil and is about to have Von Maur and Trader Joe's. That said, OKC still has more ground to cover against cities its size or even a little smaller. I fully agree with the author of the blog that says the primary reason is the lack of good retail space. The usual excuse of the lack of concentrated wealth may hold weight vs Tulsa but against places like Birmingham, Alabama, it doesn't hold up. Looking back, just as OKC was finally starting to be on the radar of these national retailers and shopping centers were being proposed, 2008 hit and put a stop to most progress. If OKC ever gets a lifestyle center, even a small one, I think the retail situation here will improve dramatically.

From what I've seen of the Chisolm Creek development, if done right and not scaled way down like these things have the habit of doing, it could be that shopping center.

Wasn't sure where to post this but I came across it and wanted to post it because it hits the nail on the head.

A Downtown ontheRange: Buyer's Remorse in OKC (http://downtownontherange.blogspot.com/2010/05/buyers-remorse-in-okc.html)

The article was printed in 2010 so OKC has covered some ground since then. OKC now has Whole Foods, Anthropolgie, Coach, Fossil and is about to have Von Maur and Trader Joe's. That said, OKC still has more ground to cover against cities its size or even a little smaller. I fully agree with the author of the blog that says the primary reason is the lack of good retail space. The usual excuse of the lack of concentrated wealth may hold weight vs Tulsa but against places like Birmingham, Alabama, it doesn't hold up. Looking back, just as OKC was finally starting to be on the radar of these national retailers and shopping centers were being proposed, 2008 hit and put a stop to most progress. If OKC ever gets a lifestyle center, even a small one, I think the retail situation here will improve dramatically.

From what I've seen of the Chisolm Creek development, if done right and not scaled way down like these things have the habit of doing, it could be that shopping center.

I have to agree as well. It is surprising that we do not have any nice lifestyle centers given how common they are in cities that are comparable to or smaller than OKC. I recently spent a week in Northern Virginia outside of Washington, DC, and I had forgotten how much nicer the sprawl and strip malls seem to be there. Obviously, the cost of living is higher there, too, but some of it just seems to be the standards. It just seems like our standards here are too low. For instance, I posted this picture of a "typical" strip mall with Giant grocery store (a regular grocery store that is, of course, much nicer than the average grocery store here). This is not a fancy development, and yet it is nicer than most of the more upscale developments in the metro.

6512

I have to agree as well. It is surprising that we do not have any nice lifestyle centers given how common they are in cities that are comparable to or smaller than OKC. I recently spent a week in Northern Virginia outside of Washington, DC, and I had forgotten how much nicer the sprawl and strip malls seem to be there. Obviously, the cost of living is higher there, too, but some of it just seems to be the standards. It just seems like our standards here are too low. For instance, I posted this picture of a "typical" strip mall with Giant grocery store (a regular grocery store that is, of course, much nicer than the average grocery store here). This is not a fancy development, and yet it is nicer than most of the more upscale developments in the metro.

6512

I agree. That's how Charlotte is as well. The only thing in the OKC metro that meets that standard is the Spring Creek development in Edmond. When you get down to it though, what is it about OKC that keeps those developments from being built here?

I honestly think it was OKC's image prior to 2008 and some major deals were coming together but the depression screwed things up. I could be wrong on that and please correct me if I am. I am confident though we will see things change in the near future.

I agree. That's how Charlotte is as well. The only thing in the OKC metro that meets that standard is the Spring Creek development in Edmond. When you get down to it though, what is it about OKC that keeps those developments from being built here?

I wonder the same thing. The suburbs in other states just seem to be better than what we get here. I don't know what keeps OKC developers from building like that, but I wish it would change.

I'd love to have a good place to buy furniture. Maybe a Room and Board.

Thought it might be fun to bring this thread back from the dead now that it looks like some big name retailers are going into CC.

Louis Vuitton.

Then again, their lack of an Oklahoma presence keeps me out of (too much) trouble. If they had a store here, I might be lured into impulse purchases. As it stands, I have much more time to talk myself out of it when I'm forced to order from their website. That may sound backward, but there's something about walking into an actual store and smelling the fresh leather and being able to physically handle a bag or accessory.

I'd like to have an L.L. Bean store and a proper Nordstrom. L.L. Bean could work at the outlet mall, or probably more successfully, along the Memorial corridor. Unfortunately we're half a country away from Bean's retail spread, so I don't see it happening ever. Nordstrom could be set up in the Quail area.

Food-wise, I'd love to have a Tim Horton's. Best fast food coffee in the world, and killer breakfast sandwiches. Fatburger is also pretty tasty; I tried one of those in Alberta. But we don't really have a shortage of great burger places here, so I don't know if the market needs a Fatburger. Not that I'd complain if they opened one up.