I wonder if I went to any other city in the world and asked, "What 5 retailers do you wish you had in your city?", if anyone else would list a gas station convenience store.

There is no Quiktrip in Ponca City. Maybe you have it confused with something else?

Must have. Grew up there, but haven't been there since '79, really. Maybe when I was growing up all carbonated soft drinks were Cokes, facial tissues were Kleenexes and convenience stores were QTs.

I wonder if I went to any other city in the world and asked, "What 5 retailers do you wish you had in your city?", if anyone else would list a gas station convenience store.

Probably not. People in most cities take these things for granted and would probably laugh if they saw this thread. I personally don't see what the big deal is about QT, but a lot of people probably think the same thing about having nicer grocery stores. To me a Circle K or 7-11 is fine, and to others they may not wish for more than the Super Wal-Mart. Nonetheless, its the lack of these smaller amenities that can really make the adjustment to OKC from other cities more difficult. I think its stuff like this that also helps keep OKC's negative perception alive.

I think it also somewhat stems from OKC's still somewhat alive inferiority complex vs Tulsa. Tulsa was once significantly ahead of OKC. Recently the gap has narrowed significantly but there still are pleasantries available in Tulsa that are hard to come by in OKC, nice grocery and convenience stores among them. That being the case or not, there is no reason OKC shouldn't have these basic things they take for granted anywhere else.

I wonder if I went to any other city in the world and asked, "What 5 retailers do you wish you had in your city?", if anyone else would list a gas station convenience store.

if they were a tulsa transplant in a city with no QT they would .. i just don't get it

but there still are pleasantries available in Tulsa that are hard to come by in OKC, nice grocery and convenience stores among them. That being the case or not, there is no reason OKC shouldn't have these basic things they take for granted anywhere else.

And a Lifetime Fitness, did I mention I really want one here?

These QT debates always crack me up.

The only store that comes to mind I'd really like to see hit the metro is Costco.

These QT debates always crack me up.

The only store that comes to mind I'd really like to see hit the metro is Costco.

ooh, but we have Sam's....

ooh, but we have Sam's....

Costco is to Sam's what Target is to Wal-Mart. I personally don't want to give the Waltons any more of my money than I absolutely have to.

Forgot another one....Top Golf

We have both Sam's and Costco out here in Cali and most people strongly prefer Costco, and not only due to anti-WM sentiment.

First of all, they carry a ton of their own privately branded (Kirkland) products, and they are generally fantastic and extremely reasonable. Most of what I buy there is Kirkland brand.

Secondly, the stores are just brighter, better merchandised and nicer to shop.

And finally, they pay and train their employees well and as a result all you see are smiley, pleasant people and it really makes a difference.


I have a Sam's Club membership because I've bought a few things that Costco didn't have, like a particular arbor I wanted for my front yard. But as similar as they may seem to Costco, the whole experience is completely different.

I absolutely love Costco and completely avoid Sam's Club unless I have no other choice.

Costco was the big stop for alcohol when I was in Arizona.

Costco is to Sam's what Target is to Wal-Mart. I personally don't want to give the Waltons any more of my money than I absolutely have to.
The Walton's really don't have anything to do with Walmart anymore, anything more than owning some stock and not near as much as they used to. Walmart has been taken over by the east coast MBA types and they run it that way.

We have both Sam's and Costco memberships, we go to both pretty much equally, went to Costco tonight to try and get a tire replaced. There are items that we buy at one that the other doesn't have so in many products there isn't as much overlap for us, of course there is some for general household items. I go to Sam's way more than I do Walmart, I will go to Target before Walmart usually mainly because I just don't like the Walmart Supercenters.

ooh, but we have Sam's....

Perhaps my sarcasm was lost, what with the QT - 7-11 debate.

Costco would be nice.

The Walton's really don't have anything to do with Walmart anymore, anything more than owning some stock and not near as much as they used to. Walmart has been taken over by the east coast MBA types and they run it that way.

We have both Sam's and Costco memberships, we go to both pretty much equally, went to Costco tonight to try and get a tire replaced. There are items that we buy at one that the other doesn't have so in many products there isn't as much overlap for us, of course there is some for general household items. I go to Sam's way more than I do Walmart, I will go to Target before Walmart usually mainly because I just don't like the Walmart Supercenters.

Yeah I was aware the Walton's didn't have much to do with it anymore. In fact, I imagine Sam Walton would be very disappointed in how the company is being run today if he were still alive. I simply used that as a figure of speech. Sometimes I can't avoid Wal-Mart but I will spend the extra buck or drive an extra few miles to shop elsewhere if possible. Like many, I detest the Supercenters. The Neighborhood Markets aren't bad for quick grocery shopping but shopping in them feeds Wal-Mart's dominance so I try to avoid them as well. Plus any Wal-Mart is always very understaffed, be it a Supercenter or Neighborhood Market, so no matter what time of day you go, there are always long lines.

Kroger
CONTAINER STORE
Lacoste (I stock up everytime I travel to San Diego haha)

The Walton's really don't have anything to do with Walmart anymore, anything more than owning some stock and not near as much as they used to. Walmart has been taken over by the east coast MBA types and they run it that way.

We have both Sam's and Costco memberships, we go to both pretty much equally, went to Costco tonight to try and get a tire replaced. There are items that we buy at one that the other doesn't have so in many products there isn't as much overlap for us, of course there is some for general household items. I go to Sam's way more than I do Walmart, I will go to Target before Walmart usually mainly because I just don't like the Walmart Supercenters.

No, nothing to do with the company other than owning 48% of the stock and one of the son’s being chairman.

Shake2005,
And along with Rob Walton, the youngest son of Sam Walton, board member Jim Walton.
C. T.

No, nothing to do with the company other than owning 48% of the stock and one of the son’s being chairman.

Interesting...

Wal-Mart says it will pull out of D.C. plans should city mandate ?living wage? - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/wal-mart-says-it-will-pull-out-of-dc-plans-should-city-mandate-living-wage/2013/07/09/4fa7e710-e8d0-11e2-a301-ea5a8116d211_story.html)


The world’s largest retailer delivered an ultimatum to District lawmakers Tuesday, telling them less than 24 hours before a decisive vote that at least three planned Wal-Marts will not open in the city if a super-minimum-wage proposal becomes law.

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The D.C. Council bill would require retailers with corporate sales of $1 billion or more and operating in spaces 75,000 square feet or larger to pay their employees no less than $12.50 an hour. The city’s minimum wage is $8.25.

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Alex Barron, a regional general manager for Wal-Mart U.S., wrote in a Washington Post op-ed piece that the proposed wage requirement “would clearly inject unforeseen costs into the equation that will create an uneven playing field and challenge the fiscal health of our planned D.C. stores.”

So that is about $875,000 more in wages (assuming everyone makes minimum wage now) for a store that routinely post $100 million of revenue. Wal-mart must really hate to pay $12.50 an hour to turn down $300 million in sales over it. Maybe OKC should look into this type of law. With 30 Walmarts in the Metro that would be some serious economic development potential. What would Walmart do - move out of Oklahoma?

Forgot another one....Top Golf

With two in the Dallas area, I doubt this would happen. But man, would it make me happy.

Interesting...

Wal-Mart says it will pull out of D.C. plans should city mandate ?living wage? - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/wal-mart-says-it-will-pull-out-of-dc-plans-should-city-mandate-living-wage/2013/07/09/4fa7e710-e8d0-11e2-a301-ea5a8116d211_story.html)



So that is about $875,000 more in wages (assuming everyone makes minimum wage now) for a store that routinely post $100 million of revenue. Wal-mart must really hate to pay $12.50 an hour to turn down $300 million in sales over it. Maybe OKC should look into this type of law. With 30 Walmarts in the Metro that would be some serious economic development potential. What would Walmart do - move out of Oklahoma?I agree with you!!!!!!!!! ;)

Interesting...

Wal-Mart says it will pull out of D.C. plans should city mandate ?living wage? - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/wal-mart-says-it-will-pull-out-of-dc-plans-should-city-mandate-living-wage/2013/07/09/4fa7e710-e8d0-11e2-a301-ea5a8116d211_story.html)



So that is about $875,000 more in wages (assuming everyone makes minimum wage now) for a store that routinely post $100 million of revenue. Wal-mart must really hate to pay $12.50 an hour to turn down $300 million in sales over it. Maybe OKC should look into this type of law. With 30 Walmarts in the Metro that would be some serious economic development potential. What would Walmart do - move out of Oklahoma?

I highly doubt OKC would ever consider such a move and am not sure if it would be a good idea. I would like to see a dent put in Wal-Mart's dominance as much as the next guy but I am not sure that is the way to do it. Anyways this is unprecedented for Wal-Mart to consider pulling out of a market. I don't think I've ever heard of a Wal-Mart even closing unless it was to make way for a larger store. Even with a law like this in OKC, I highly doubt Wal-Mart would consider giving up one of its top markets.

I highly doubt OKC would ever consider such a move and am not sure if it would be a good idea. I would like to see a dent put in Wal-Mart's dominance as much as the next guy but I am not sure that is the way to do it. Anyways this is unprecedented for Wal-Mart to consider pulling out of a market. I don't think I've ever heard of a Wal-Mart even closing unless it was to make way for a larger store. Even with a law like this in OKC, I highly doubt Wal-Mart would consider giving up one of its top markets.

Oklahoma would never do it republican states are in favor of business and democratic states try to look out for the people.

Oklahoma would never do it republican states are in favor of business and democratic states try to look out for the people.

And that's not always a bad thing. Would you rather live in Michigan these days?

And that's not always a bad thing. Would you rather live in Michigan these days?

Although Michigan is a democratic state but a republican governor is calling shots and its against the people and for the big companies.

Maybe being for big companies might drag their economy out of the crapper. Maybe years of democratic leadership led to their demise? You're making a pretty generic accusation.

Sorry to thread jack guys

No, nothing to do with the company other than owning 48% of the stock and one of the son’s being chairman.
You can own a lot of stock and not run things, unlike how the corporate raiders act. The Walton family doesn't care about the day to day business of Walmart as long as it is making them money, they aren't calling any shots there unless their cash machine breaks, even the figurehead chairman. None of them has been involved with the running of Walmart like Sam was, in the office or stores almost everyday. They leave that up to the "professionals" which is probably the smartest thing for them to do if they don't have the passion for the business like Sam did, the rest of the family has pretty much just been along for the ride which has gone pretty well for them.

And that's not always a bad thing. Would you rather live in Michigan these days?

There is nothing wrong in Michigan once you get out of the city of Detroit, which is relatively small when compared to the rest of the Metro area there. Plus you still get 10 cents for the bottles/cans you turn back in. Which works out great when you buy them in Ohio or Indiana and turn them in across the boarder. ;)

As far as living wages...it is hard to say how to handle them. It is interesting to show how wages rarely increase to cover the increasing cost of living. The plethora of call centers in Oklahoma still pay the same starting of $8-10/hr that they did 15 years ago. When I got my first job I was making $10/hr back in the late 90s. Today that would mean, if adjusted for inflation and such, I would be starting out at almost $14/hr. However, you'll still find the same job being posted for $10/hr starting.

If your own employees have difficulties in buying products that they sell every day, something is probably wrong.

Regardless back to topic. Walmart's dominance here is going to make it really tough for anyone to come in and get any quality market share. As discussed about the only option is for someone like Kroger to come in and buy Homeland.

There is nothing wrong in Michigan once you get out of the city of Detroit, which is relatively small when compared to the rest of the Metro area there. Plus you still get 10 cents for the bottles/cans you turn back in. Which works out great when you buy them in Ohio or Indiana and turn them in across the boarder. ;)

As far as living wages...it is hard to say how to handle them. It is interesting to show how wages rarely increase to cover the increasing cost of living. The plethora of call centers in Oklahoma still pay the same starting of $8-10/hr that they did 15 years ago. When I got my first job I was making $10/hr back in the late 90s. Today that would mean, if adjusted for inflation and such, I would be starting out at almost $14/hr. However, you'll still find the same job being posted for $10/hr starting.

If your own employees have difficulties in buying products that they sell every day, something is probably wrong.

Regardless back to topic. Walmart's dominance here is going to make it really tough for anyone to come in and get any quality market share. As discussed about the only option is for someone like Kroger to come in and buy Homeland.
Updating the liquor laws would help when it comes to getting good grocery stores too.

Updating the liquor laws would help when it comes to getting good grocery stores too.

I think that would help us get specialty chains moreso than a good national grocery chain. It also may give existing chains like Crest and Buy 4 Less more of a profit margin which in turn they would build more locations. OKC's grocery problem could be solved entirely with a few more Crest Fresh Markets strategically placed in convenient locations.

I think that would help us get specialty chains moreso than a good national grocery chain. It also may give existing chains like Crest and Buy 4 Less more of a profit margin which in turn they would build more locations. OKC's grocery problem could be solved entirely with a few more Crest Fresh Markets strategically placed in convenient locations.

Kroger makes a lot off of their liquor and wine sales, so I would say it would definitely help get them in here. Of course I would also like to see Giant Eagle here, but they are more so regional and not national.

I think changing the liquor laws would be huge plus at getting World Market to come here as well, Then again they do have stores in Kansas and Colorado.

[QUOTE=venture79;662048]I have often wondered why national or even regional chains avoid Oklahoma. Not only grocery stores, but also gas stations. Is our business climate as bad as it seems?

Gas stations made a little more sense though when we have below average prices on fuel and back in the day Philips, Conoco and Loves were all based out of here. I think even Kerr-Mcgee even had a lot of stations too.

Kroger makes a lot off of their liquor and wine sales, so I would say it would definitely help get them in here. Of course I would also like to see Giant Eagle here, but they are more so regional and not national.

That would be nice. Considering most cities have nice grocery stores at virtually every major intersection, I bet there would be significant construction if/when the laws change. It would be nice to see it get that way here. I wish Reasor's would expand into Central Oklahoma and they are more likely to without a change in the laws. Reasor's is the kind of store OKC needs. Anybody know what is keeping them out? Does Tulsa have less Wal-Mart loyalty and thus are able to support them?

http://www.newson6.com/story/19956671/reasors-opens

It reminds me of the grocery stores in Charlotte.

Much, much better than the typical OKC standard.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4063/5124319668_5982355f6e.jpg

Most cities don't any more, there are all sorts of former grocery store locations in South Austin that I could point out but as HEB and others grew the footprint they also cut down on the number of locations. There used to be a Safeway store every few miles in my parents area, there was one at NW 16th & Meridian, at NW 23rd & Ann Arbor, NW 16th & Drexel, NW 10th & Rockwell and others. They started closing up stores as they went to bigger stores and then closed most of those when it became Homeland when Safeway was selling off entire markets (like all the stores in Oklahoma and Texas) because of their financial problems in the 80's.

If Reasor's is the store that I am thinking of they have been in Tulsa much longer than any Walmart store let alone a grocery or supercenter. It isn't so much a "loyalty" that people have to Walmart as it is about other, better options. OKC just doesn't have many since many of the chains shut down or left the market.

If Reasor's is the store that I am thinking of they have been in Tulsa much longer than any Walmart store let alone a grocery or supercenter. It isn't so much a "loyalty" that people have to Walmart as it is about other, better options. OKC just doesn't have many since many of the chains shut down or left the market.

The other options left the market because Wal-Mart put them out. It could be argued that they did it to themselves by not even trying to compete. It's been said here that Albertson's were lower quality in OKC compared to other markets, but nonetheless they couldn't compete and left the market. I think people underestimate Wal-Mart's aggressiveness in this market. Their strategy was to run everything else out intentionally. This was a test market for them to see if they could do it. They have almost succeeded.

I believe Reasor's is planning a store in Edmond by Spring Creek. I am not sure what is the current status. I do know that Spring Creek's developer ran into some issues with expanding north on Bryant, however I am not sure if that had any impact.

I believe Reasor's is planning a store in Edmond by Spring Creek. I am not sure what is the current status. I do know that Spring Creek's developer ran into some issues with expanding north on Bryant, however I am not sure if that had any impact.

As of last fall it was being protested by NIMBYs. I haven't heard or seen anything recently regarding it so its possible it may have been cancelled.

As of last fall it was being protested by NIMBYs. I haven't heard or seen anything recently regarding it so its possible it may have been cancelled.

The development (or at least a portion of the development) was approved by the Edmond planning commission last year. It looks like they've done some site work at the location, but not much else. I'm assuming they are waiting on the street work on Bryant to reach a certain stage before they start constructing the shopping center in earnest. Also I think there are still some unresolved issues on whether or not the grocery store will be open 24 hours a day.

1. Costco
2. Morton's Steakhouse (Although Red Prime runs a close second as far as favorite steakhouse)
3. Trader Joes
4. Ikea
5.In n out burgers

I have seen the thread/rumor on Ruth Chris...I hope it's not true. I have had better steaks and service from IHOP than Ruth Chris'

The development (or at least a portion of the development) was approved by the Edmond planning commission last year. It looks like they've done some site work at the location, but not much else. I'm assuming they are waiting on the street work on Bryant to reach a certain stage before they start constructing the shopping center in earnest. Also I think there are still some unresolved issues on whether or not the grocery store will be open 24 hours a day.

I hope Reasor's does well if/when it gets built. Anybody who wants to see better grocery options in this city should shop there when it opens if possible. If the Edmond location is a hit it wouldn't surprise me to see them expand through the rest of the metro.

The other options left the market because Wal-Mart put them out. It could be argued that they did it to themselves by not even trying to compete. It's been said here that Albertson's were lower quality in OKC compared to other markets, but nonetheless they couldn't compete and left the market. I think people underestimate Wal-Mart's aggressiveness in this market. Their strategy was to run everything else out intentionally. This was a test market for them to see if they could do it. They have almost succeeded.
The first WM Neighborhood Market didn't open until the late-90's (I think NW 23rd & MacArthur was the first one which was in a former Walmart store), well after the other chains in OKC were having issues and were shedding stores and payroll. I knew many who worked at Albertson's (under the various names) since I worked there in 1980-82 (NW 23rd & Rockwell) and many were still there into the early 90's. Most of them (and long time Safeway/Homeland employees that I knew) had been through many rounds of (big) pay cuts well before Walmart entered the market. There were plenty of other chains that went under before WM started selling groceries anywhere, some of the old timers could probably rattle off the names better than I could. I remember just in the area where I grew up of Kimberling's, Humpty Dumpty, Stone's IGA, 10-M, etc., it is just the nature of the grocery business where the margins are very thin.

WM didn't pre-date their decline and there weren't that many supercenters in OKC at that time. Walmart didn't really start in OKC until the mid-80's after TG&Y was sold out, the outlying areas had stores before that but not in the OKC area. WM saw an opening and exploited it yes but they aren't the reason for the decline of the others, they may be partially responsible for what has happened since they entered the market but the old chains made their bed and had to live with it. WM wasn't the big, bad presence that put them under.

Since Albertson's left Austin they really only have two traditional chains there, HEB and Randall's (Safeway) and they don't have the WMNM there (or at least they didn't a year ago). Up here in Denver it is King Soupers (Kroger) and Safeway, Cub Foods left here about 10 or so years ago and WMNM just entered the market. They have had the supercenters for awhile along with Target. Limited choices of traditional chains is not limited to OKC as mergers and acquisitions have reduced some choice and companies abandoning markets.

HEB CentralMarket.

1. Costco
2. Trader Joe's
3. Nordstrom
4. IKEA
5. Urban Outfitters

6. Saks Fifth Avenue

1. Nordstrom
2. Nieman Marcus
3. HEB Central Market (I second this one!!)
4. Kroger
5. H&M

Anyone know why Barney's NY closed in Northpark Center?

Costco
Trader Joes
Central Market
Kroger
IKEA

Costco(Edmond along I-35 and somewhere in Norman, aaannnnd maybe a future location somewhere in Midwest City.
Tom Thumb
IKEA, although I had said some negative things about them, it still would be cool to see them here(this would be good along Memorial road which should be widened to six lanes)
Fry's(This would be cool somewhere along 240 or perhaps somewhere in the Will Rodgers Eastside Development)
Nordstrom(Mystery Mall)
(Not in order)

I'll ad a few more cool things I would like to see

Cabela's(For some reason, I want to say this would be a good fit for Norman or Midwest City)
Rainforest Cafe(this would be good to see in Bricktown or perhaps a Mystery Mall or Penn Square)
Tiger Direct Warehouse(Quail Springs area or along 240)
Great Wolf Lodge(Somewhere along the Oklahoma river in Midwest City, if the river is ever extended)
Pappadeaux(right across the street from me ;))
I also wish Home Depot would bring back it's Expo Design Centers and where else to put one, right here in OKC ;)

Sony store would be cool to add to OKC's mall scene. If they were to build one, it would go well in a new mystery mall that I would like to see either in Edmond or Norman. Not a lifestyle center, but an enclosed mall.

Locaste(Penn Square or Mystery Mall)
Luis Vuitton(I don't see it happening though and if it does, it won't be a full line store>_<)
Northface(Outlet Shoppes)
Tommy Bahama(Penn Square or MM)
Kroger
Harris Teeter

A high-end car dealer would be awesome to see here too. It would probably be a used dealer, but that's just fine.

To add to this list, another few venues I would to see would be
Nice new Aquarium(This might be cool for somewhere in C2S or perhaps the Airpark)
Medieval Times(bchris gave me this idea and that would be neat near Crossroads Mall)
A Palace of Wax(or just Ripley's Believe it or not) would be freakin awesome somewhere in Bricktown, maybe an abandoned or vacant warehouse.

Costco
Tom Thumb
IKEA(although I had said some negative things about them, it still would be cool to see them here)
Fry's
Nordstrom
(Not in order)

I'll ad a few more cool things I would like to see

Cabela's
Rainforest Cafe
Tiger Direct Warehouse
Great Wolf Lodge
Pappadeaux
I also wish Home Depot would bring back it's Expo Design Centers and where else to put one, right here in OKC ;)

Sony store would be cool to add to OKC's mall scene. If they were to build one, it would go well in a new mystery mall that I would like to see either in Edmond or Norman. Not a lifestyle center, but an enclosed mall.

Locaste
Luis Vuitton(I don't see it happening though and if it does, it won't be a full line store>_<)
Northface
Tommy Bahama
Kroger
Harris Teeter

A high-end car dealer would be awesome to see here too. It would probably be a used dealer, but that's just fine.

Good list. A TigerDirect store would be nice. They now operate under the brand CompUSA.

Cabela's is something that I am surprised is not here. It's not my kind of store but this seems like the perfect market for them. Charlotte had a Home Depot Expo center which closed down. I strongly agree about Kroger/Harris Teeter. Louis Vuitton I don't see opening in Oklahoma period in the foreseeable future. Maybe when the OKC metro hits 2 million people, stores like that will start to enter the market.

Good list. A TigerDirect store would be nice. They now operate under the brand CompUSA.

Cabela's is something that I am surprised is not here. It's not my kind of store but this seems like the perfect market for them. Charlotte had a Home Depot Expo center which closed down. I strongly agree about Kroger/Harris Teeter. Louis Vuitton I don't see opening in Oklahoma period in the foreseeable future. Maybe when the OKC metro hits 2 million people, stores like that will start to enter the market.The only thing I could think of is Bass Pro, does anyone know if there is a Cabelas and a Bass Pro in the same city?

The only thing I could think of is Bass Pro, does anyone know if there is a Cabelas and a Bass Pro in the same city?


Not much distance between the Bass Pro in Grapeview and the Cabela's in Keller/Alliance

The only thing I could think of is Bass Pro, does anyone know if there is a Cabelas and a Bass Pro in the same city?

Little Rock has a Gander Mtn and they are currently building a Bass Pro. That market is pretty much exactly half the size of OKC. I don't see why Cabela's and Bass Pro couldn't co-exist. If Cabela's did come though, I would like to see it between Moore and Norman. Definitely NOT downtown.

Little Rock has a Gander Mtn and they are currently building a Bass Pro. That market is pretty much exactly half the size of OKC. I don't see why Cabela's and Bass Pro couldn't co-exist. If Cabela's did come though, I would like to see it between Moore and Norman. Definitely NOT downtown.Agreed, I just don't like the idea of Cabelas being downtown. I also added a few things on my wish list.

Not much distance between the Bass Pro in Grapeview and the Cabela's in Keller/AllianceI didn't know Dallas had a Bass Pro. I figured there was probably a city or cities that had them, just didn't know for sure.

Little Rock has a Gander Mtn and they are currently building a Bass Pro. That market is pretty much exactly half the size of OKC. I don't see why Cabela's and Bass Pro couldn't co-exist. If Cabela's did come though, I would like to see it between Moore and Norman. Definitely NOT downtown.

I think Edmond would also be a good place for a Cabela's right off of I-35 close to Lake Arcadia.

I think Edmond would also be a good place for a Cabela's right off of I-35 close to Lake Arcadia.For whatever reason I just don't see a Cabelas working out in Edmond. I have no idea why I feel that way, it's just a vibe I get. I could be wrong though.

Anybody think Cost Plus World Market would do well here? I really don't get why they're not in OKC yet, I think Norman would be a terrific location for them as well.

Anybody think Cost Plus World Market would do well here? I really don't get why they're not in OKC yet, I think Norman would be a terrific location for them as well.

The liquor laws are probably a major reason.

They are pretty popular in Charlotte. I wish they had them here.

The liquor laws are probably a major reason.

They are pretty popular in Charlotte. I wish they had them here.

If thats the case, Why do they have stores in Kansas? Kansas has very similar liquor laws as Oklahoma.

For whatever reason I just don't see a Cabelas working out in Edmond. I have no idea why I feel that way, it's just a vibe I get. I could be wrong though.

I'm gonna have to disagree. Could capture a market heavy in outdoor interests from north OKC to Ponca City.

I'm gonna have to disagree. Could capture a market heavy in outdoor interests from north OKC to Ponca City.One thing I was thinking was possibly Stillwater, although I'm not sure if they have any major outdoor activities in Stillwater. It might work, I dunno

I'm mainly thinking hunting/fishing. If OSU is anything A&M there are plenty of young guys up there who'd love to spend their cash there.