very cool! love this city

So, is the guy running the car wash going to stay there and operate with the rest of the retail around him or is the developer going to buy the buildings and repurpose them for retail?

So, is the guy running the car wash going to stay there and operate with the rest of the retail around him or is the developer going to buy the buildings and repurpose them for retail?

as you can see in the drawings "bricktown auto detail" is staying they are just moving to one of the new buildings

So, is the guy running the car wash going to stay there and operate with the rest of the retail around him or is the developer going to buy the buildings and repurpose them for retail?

Yes, if you go back in this thread, there should be a link to a video interview from newsok.com, with the guy that runs the carwash talking about how they're to integrate the old gas station into the new build. Pretty cool if you ask me!

Very cool. Looks like a project I saw in krakow Poland yesterday. I will post pics of it when I get back. They are building apartments over some historical buildings on the riverfront.

That is just outstanding. I have worried about those buildings for years, and to see them in a rendering like this makes me seriously happy. Great adaptive re-use, and another example to show other developers how it can be done. The charm and unique sense of place that they will provide to this project is difficult if not impossible to build new, nor would it have been attempted here if the buildings had not been there to preserve and integrate.

Projects like these - and I'm referring to the historic building integration specifically - inspire others to do similar things, and elements like those give a city its character.

That is just outstanding. I have worried about those buildings for years, and to see them in a rendering like this makes me seriously happy. Great adaptive re-use, and another example to show other developers how it can be done. The charm and unique sense of place that they will provide to this project is difficult if not impossible to build new, nor would it have been attempted here if the buildings had not been there to preserve and integrate.

Projects like these - and I'm referring to the historic building integration specifically - inspire others to do similar things, and elements like those give a city its character.

All the more reason for the Marion project to gain steam.

More:



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Love this.

That is so cool! I love that they aren't tearing them down!

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Is that a Lexus LFA entering the garage?? lol

Mr. Jones (Bricktown Auto Detail) will be relocated to the garage of Maywood I while Maywood II is under construction. Once phase II is complete, he will have a permanent home there.

This IS totally awesome, and as others have said I hope other developers can implement adaptive integration/re-use into their developments. That is a cute little house, so good to see it preserved.

I believe those are ancient gas/service station buildings from the very early days of automobiling. Possibly Phillips 66? There have been a few other examples of these buildings around town - often disguised within building ad-ons - but the last ones are disappearing quickly.

I believe those are ancient gas/service station buildings from the very early days of automobiling. Possibly Phillips 66? There have been a few other examples of these buildings around town - often disguised within building ad-ons - but the last ones are disappearing quickly.

Yes, you are correct in that it used to be a gas station. There are other gas stations all over the region that were built like that. I'd say 1930s era...

I believe those are ancient gas/service station buildings from the very early days of automobiling. Possibly Phillips 66? There have been a few other examples of these buildings around town - often disguised within building ad-ons - but the last ones are disappearing quickly.

I am curious if the old tanks or anything else dangerous could be underground that they might have to dig out to attach to it.

This IS totally awesome, and as others have said I hope other developers can implement adaptive integration/re-use into their developments. That is a cute little house, so good to see it preserved.

Yeah, it raises the bar very high, especially when it comes to prime frontage such as along Walnut.

Saw an earth mover parked on this lot yesterday and it looks like that steel landscaping building has been mostly gutted for demo.

Metal building is almost all down.

Metal building is almost all down.

Just saw that his morning. I wonder where they'll stage materials.

Just saw that his morning. I wonder where they'll stage materials.


Most likely the same place they held materials for the Phase #1. East of the pump station.

I think it is no coincedence that Phase #1 is almost complete while Phase #2 is about to get rocking.

The metal building on this property has been scraped:

http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/6100d1389805483-maywood-apartments-phase-ii-mw211314a.jpg


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This area is on its way to seeing residential density probably never before seen in this state...

Pete, the article at the top says 4 floors. But the drawings show 6?

Pete, the article at the top says 4 floors. But the drawings show 6?

Probably four floors of apartments plus two floors for parking/retail.

Application today for $15.1 million building permit for this project.

And the building permit was for 7 floors. Lol now I am thoroughly confused. Good to see this moving forward anyways.

And the building permit was for 7 floors. Lol now I am thoroughly confused. Good to see this moving forward anyways.

1 underground parking, 2 above ground parking, 4 levels of housing = 7.

^

Gotcha. Thanks Pete.

Man, that will be an imposing structure.

Man, that will be an imposing structure.

Going to work in concert with Aloft to expand the skyline to the east and to give Deep Deuce some prominence in the downtown urban fabric.

Now we just need south Midtown to get several 8 to 12 story developments and OKC coming from all angles (except eastbound I-40) will look incredibly dense.

Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Is it me or is there just a different vibe driving by downtown these days? Especially from the interstates, OKC looks like a CITY now. The taller buildings in the CBD flow nicely to Aloft and the other infill that's being built. Amazing progress for this little city!

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This area is on its way to seeing residential density probably never before seen in this state...

Well... at least in the last 60 years. At one time OKC had 100,000 people living in close proximity to downtown.

Well... at least in the last 60 years. At one time OKC had 100,000 people living in close proximity to downtown.

Density... We're talking several thousand people in just a 5 block by 5 block area. I don't think downtown of the former years had a 5 block area this dense with residential population.

I hope Doug doesn't mind, but here is Deep Deuce back in the day. Granted they didn't have 3 story apartment building but the individual living units were less than 1/2 the size as they are today. Whole families lived in 600 sq. feet. Anyhow, it would be interesting to know the density of Deep Deuce after all these units are built. This highest density census tract in OKC right now is out by N. May and 122 at 8.611.6 ppl/sq mile.

Vintage Oklahoma City - Deep Deuce Aerials (http://www.dougloudenback.com/maps/vintage_deepdeuce.htm)

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On edit, sorry, the highest is actually Midtown at 9,645 ppl/sq mile. N. May is #2.

When deep deuce is filled out, it will be more dense than that. I see single family homes on the site of Level and Maywood lofts. dd will soon be filled with entire blocks of 4-5 story apartments. That's more dense than anything in that picture.

When deep deuce is filled out, it will be more dense than that. I see single family homes on the site of Level and Maywood lofts. dd will soon be filled with entire blocks of 4-5 story apartments. That's more dense than anything in that picture.

Kind of makes you wonder how long the Deep Deuce Apartments will be around doesn't it. When they were built everyone raved about how dense they were, but now they look like a lot of wasted space. Level did in 1 block what took DDA 5 blocks.

I was under the impression much of the "wasted" space was due to easements and OCURA owned land and such...

Compared to Maywood II they are wasting both vertical space (2/3 story vs. 4/5 story) and a lot of surface parking behind the buildings. Not to detract any further from the thread but the transition from DDA to Maywood II mirrors the transit downtown is seeing in general. As land becomes in short supply the only solution is to go up or expand the walkable area being developed (which is where the streetcar comes in).

Which is what some of us have been saying for awhile. You can't really shortcut the process and demand height. Do the infill and make land scarce, increasing the value, and force (as in market force) more valuable buildings to be built on them to justify the investment. All in all, we are following a pretty predictable path.

Why did they go away from the pitched roof? I actually kind of liked it in this context.

^ I like the look of it.

Looks like the Courtyard by the Chk arena. Reminds me of some of the apartments/condos in Santa Monica, CA.

Why did they go away from the pitched roof? I actually kind of liked it in this context.

Good eye. I didn't realize it had been removed in the newer renderings. I kind of liked it too, but the new renderings look fine as well.

2/3/14 from Metro:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mwii020314.jpg

They are busy removing the concrete pad from that lot right now.

The site appears to be supportive of Mick

Still wondering where they will stage materials for this site. The RedRock owned property east of the pump station is newly asphalted and completely empty again.

I thought I had posted about this before... But I don't see that post anymore.

East of the Brownstones?

Northwest corner of 4th and Oklahoma.

Just learned the reason for the delay is finalizing some issues with HUD.

They plan to re-start in June.

Here's Steve's update: Development Update: Deep Deuce Firehouse, Maywood Apartments, Phase 2 | News OK (http://newsok.com/article/4894274)

As ugly as Maywood 1 turned out, maybe it's time for the developers to take a time out and regroup before launching into another development.

There have been trucks and people on site for a couple days. Might be signs of life.

Yep, dirt should start moving very soon.

The plans for this project has been substantially re-worked and submitted for design approval.

The original design showed 4 floors of residential over two levels of parking. The reviews plans now show 3 levels of subterranean parking with four levels of apartments above.

The two small historic buildings on Walnut will still be retained and integrated into the larger project. Note in the first site plan below that this entire Walnut Avenue facade is dedicated for three separate restaurants with a shared kitchen.

Also, the overall design and architecture seems to be completely the same as before. See the article at the top of the page; the original renderings and plans are those in color.



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The restaurant space might make the wait worth it. I was worried about 4th being dead but this will help.

If we can get some retail/residential on the NE corner of Walnut/4th - this entire area of DD will go from dead in the water to a lively corner. The entire 2nd st and Walnut corridor with Aloft/Native Roots/DD Apartments is a major activity spot. Giving people a place to go turns out to be a good plan.

This looks to be a nice improvement from what I can tell. I think Phase 1 was kind of a disappointment, but this seems to be better. I like the underground parking and the restaurant space was a good call. I don't think the Metropolitan has any restaurant and retail space, so it makes sense to try and reach that market. If the triangle gets going, Deep Deuce as a whole will be that much better. A real urban neighborhood in OKC.

One of the things this does is to change the street level on 4th and on Oklahoma to living units rather than parking garage.

We've seen how having the parking as the first two levels at Maywood Apartments has killed any sort of street interaction.

While this was always going to be better along Walnut, now the other two street frontages will be more active as well.