A lot of people in those outer precincts don't think they're in OKC because of their zip code, school district, etc. So amplify general apathy and low turn out by the number of people who didn't know they were eligible to vote, and I could see it happening.

Is there a map that would show which 35 precincts Ed won? I'm guessing he did pretty well in Ward 2, based on the tie in 193. That should make 2016 interesting.

And what the heck is wrong with that first commenter?



Yeah, expect the part of the interview where he explicitly talked about neighborhoods. Gah, what the hell, people.


At least twice, and goes on to point out that you need a strong economy in order to pay for things like neighborhood improvements, new police officers, and fire stations. He talks about how MAPS 3 will improve neighborhoods with trails.

I'm looking forward to the next 4 years in OKC.

... OKC has precincts where nobody votes? I know voter turnout percentages can be bad, but that just seems terrible. I have to wonder what the population is in those areas.

I think wards, and their subdivisions, are designed to be of the same approximate size population wise. Does seem odd that not one person voted, though it has probably palyed out like that in many places.

I think wards, and their subdivisions, are designed to be of the same approximate size population wise. Does seem odd that not one person voted, though it has probably palyed out like that in many places.

Precinct boundaries are set by election commissions and sometimes straddle municipal boundaries. It may be that the portions of those precincts which are inside OKC's boundaries do not have residents. I know of at least one precinct in another local City which is like that.

From the article accompanying that interview, I'm a tad confused.



OKC has precincts where nobody votes? I know voter turnout percentages can be bad, but that just seems terrible. I have to wonder what the population is in those areas.

There is a precinct southwest of Yukon (it is OKC city limits) where about a dozen farmers vote at West Point Church, at least they used too. I can see where they would pass on voting, but you'd think the volunteer that opens it up would vote....it's usually someone from the area.

I'll have to chime in here, even though I said I wouldn't, because I was putting signs out early election morning. That was the second to last precinct for me and I felt like I'd driven into a small town. I couldn't believe it was OKC. I did see someone pull into the parking lot as I was putting signs out though, so it might not even be one of the voter-less ones.

Were you one of three people I watched place a half dozen illegal Mick signs in the right-of-way on the corner or NW 16th and Council about 7am? They are still there. Can you get someone out and clean up that mess in my neighborhood or do I need to call the action center?

Jeeves, you need to take a step back here. You've threatened in this thread to sue people and are now just looking pathetic complaining about signs in the right of way. Both candidates had volunteers place signs in illegal places.

Were you one of three people I watched place a half dozen illegal Mick signs in the right-of-way on the corner or NW 16th and Council about 7am? They are still there. Can you get someone out and clean up that mess in my neighborhood or do I need to call the action center?

Will you call your friends and have them pick up all the illegal Shadid campaign signs and the FOP signs in my neck of the woods please?

That's a non partisan complaint. If they were Ed signs cluttering up the corner a couple blocks from my house and the possible culprit, or at least part of the team, was talking about it I'd be asking the same thing. There aren't 7 Ed signs on the right-of-way in my neighborhood a couple of blocks from my house. There's one standing and one laying down several blocks farther away that have been there for awhile. My guess is an actual resident of the neighborhood placed it on the right-of-way they mow, illegally too, but not some team from headquarters blanketing the city and then spending the next day on the internet talking about it.

Were you one of three people I watched place a half dozen illegal Mick signs in the right-of-way on the corner or NW 16th and Council about 7am? They are still there. Can you get someone out and clean up that mess in my neighborhood or do I need to call the action center?

Why did you take the time out to say "half dozen"? It's much easier on the fingers to type "six" -- you're being overly dramatic.

I think it's time to lock this thread.

Why did you take the time out to say "half dozen"? It's much easier on the fingers to type "six" -- you're being overly dramatic.

Because I wasn't sure without counting. I believe it's seven.

What about all the signs from the OKC Police who support ES or the DRED signs on the Hefner Parkway entrance and exit ramps?

What about all the signs from the OKC Police who support ES or the DRED signs on the Hefner Parkway entrance and exit ramps?

What about them?


Will you call your friends and have them pick up all the illegal Shadid campaign signs and the FOP signs in my neck of the woods please?

I don't know anyone with the FOP, don't know anyone officially with Shadid's campaign and don't know of any of my friends who support Ed (or mick) volunteering to place signs illegal or otherwise. Even a monkey at a keyboard will get lucky sometime, keep stabbing at those keys and maybe you'll type something factually relevant eventually.

Wow... So, who did you end up voting for Jeeves? Sarge?

No that was not me, but I will try to have someone pick them up.

Thank you.

I've been picking up my signs although I'm not done, but none of mine were on the north side.

Congratulations to Mayor Mick Cornett who cultivated his campaign about his success as mayor. 'Stick with Mick..."


"I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith."--2 Timothy 4:7

Dr. Shadid headed a controversial campaign with many attempts to poison the minds of the voters into thinking that Mayor Mick Cornett was shuffling cards 'under the table.

Dr. Shadid, it's time to put your disappointment aside and move on for the better of yourself and Oklahoma City. Don't allow yourself to become preoccupied and obsessed with getting revenge because your little scheme backfired on you. Time for some fence mending and moving on.

As a physician who works on spines, use some preventive measures on yourself; it isn't healthy to harbor hate. It will turn on you!


http://www.thunderfans.com/vforum/images/smilies/okc.gif "Oklahoma City looks oh-so pretty... ...as I get my kicks on Route 66." --Nat King Cole.http://www.thunderfans.com/vforum/images/smilies/okc.gif

There's some real tools on this thread, BTW, where's Edgar ?

I would just like to see what some of these folks look like...... at least from a distance..

There were Ed signs all over 10th and Sara Rd yesterday...... in the right of way.

There's some real tools on this thread, BTW, where's Edgar ?

I would just like to see what some of these folks look like...... at least from a distance..

You can probably spot them living under bridges...

Why do people want this thread locked? Is there some function on this site that makes people read these threads if they don't want to? I think this has been a pretty important discussion and will continue to be one.

Why do people want this thread locked? Is there some function on this site that makes people read these threads if they don't want to? I think this has been a pretty important discussion and will continue to be one.

The same reason we don't want to see all of the politics threads that are intentionally left out of the latest posts tab. It has been a good discussion sometimes, other times it has just been people attacking each other.

Wow... So, who did you end up voting for Jeeves? Sarge?

Not Ed.

There are other issues worthy of discussion here. If you don't want to participate, fine, don't click on the thread.

I was amused to see -- assuming I read it right -- that the tiny sliver of OKC in Pottawatomie County split 2-2 between Cornett and Shadid.

There are other issues worthy of discussion here. If you don't want to participate, fine, don't click on the thread.

Yes sir.

Yes sir.

Not trying to be snarky at all, by the way. Hope it didn't come across that way.

Just learned that Cornett defeated Shadid soundly in Ward 2 -- Ed's district.

Not by as wide a margin as the overall vote, but by double digits.


It appears Shadid is going to have his work cut out for him if he decides to run for re-election.

Shortly after the Maps for Hoops vote I saw a precinct map with for and against info for each precinct. Anyone remember/know who might have prepared it? I would love to see a similar map for the 2014 mayors race.

Shadid is in trouble because of the anti-gay mailer.

Shortly after the Maps for Hoops vote I saw a precinct map with for and against info for each precinct. Anyone remember/know who might have prepared it? I would love to see a similar map for the 2014 mayors race.

Will have soon. Will share.

Just learned that Cornett defeated Shadid soundly in Ward 2 -- Ed's district.

Not by as wide a margin as the overall vote, but by double digits.


It appears Shadid is going to have his work cut out for him if he decides to run for re-election.

Really thrilled to read that. If anyone who reads this wants to run, private message me please.

You know how I feel about Ward 1.

Yep! I sure do. And you know how I feel about Greiner.

We need Maps for Chaps for a LGBT friendly area in OKC. Not around the Stockyards though.

lolz

Ed will pick up pretty much all of the other candidates' votes. The mayor's topline is essentially unchanged, which could be statistical noise in a poll with a margin of error. In the end, Ed will get about 35% of the vote. The mayor should be around 60% or more.

But this won't happen unless you VOTE!!! Every one of you on this thread should vote! VOTE! VOTE! VOTE! Polls are meaningless without your votes.

So I was a bit off. Ed underperformed my expectations, and the mayor performed slightly above my expectations. The mayor ended up with 2/3 of the vote at 66%, and the ponderous, quixotic councilman ended up a hair below 33%. Backlash from the cynical anti-gay flyer? Who knows? In the end, it is somewhat bizarre that Ed Shadid was only able to manage about 5-10 points better than what one would expect a dead man to get in a city election, and he dramatically underperformed Steve Hunt, who had no organization or money. Hunt got 42% in 2010.

This election was a total repudiation of Ed Shadid and his antagonistic, negative tin-foil hat brigade (It was NOT, however, a repudiation of progressive ideals, in my opinion.). The Red Dirt Report's description of a political "shooting star" is completely unsupported by reality or logic. Shadid is a candidate who peaked two years ago and is rocketing toward political oblivion. Knowing him as we do, he will double down and go for a "scorched earth" approach to try to take others down with him. If you have any doubt about this, just watch his "concession" speech. No dignity or class.

There were Ed signs all over 10th and Sara Rd yesterday...... in the right of way.

Still there this morning - DR ED SHADID.............illegal in the right of way....multiple signs.

Same in my neighborhood. 5 of the 7 remain. I'm guessing the adjacent homeowner with the 1/2 million dollar house pulled the other two. There's 4 more a few blocks up the road at 23rd and council and several along reno between council and rockwell. All Mick's.

I am never, ever gonna vote in an OKC mayor election again! Only 1 and a 1/10th out of 10 registered voters voted for Mick...and he won. Do folks in OKC even care about their right to vote?????

Wait.
To protest against folks who choose not to vote, you are going to not vote?

What will the sign say? Don't be me .. go vote

It reminds me of a great Mitch Hedberg quote, "I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it..."

I am never, ever gonna vote in an OKC mayor election again! Only 1 and a 1/10th out of 10 registered voters voted for Mick...and he won. Do folks in OKC even care about their right to vote?????

Doesn't that make you the thing you claim to despise?

Doesn't that make you the thing you claim to despise?

I can't argue that. I am just flabbergasted that sooooooooooo many folks don't give an effin crap about the city they live in.

Again, you have to take into account people under the age of 17 who can't vote. What percentage do you think that is? Also, people like my brother who worked 7am-8pm downtown and is registered to vote around Memorial and Hefner Parkway. I know employers need to allow at least 30 minutes for people to vote, but sometimes it is the employees who are on deadlines who chose not to vote. Also, we have a lot of people from out of town (both of my immediate neighbors) who don't care and may not even be registered to vote in OKC because they never changed it. Again, this was the best turnout in all of his terms. That has to stand for something.

Folks too young, or otherwise ineligible, to vote aren't part of the total eligible registered voters count in the first instance.
Folk too busy, or too apathetic to bother, but registered and eligible to vote make up the 83% or so who did not choose to vote. I suspect that non-participation level is typically higher than 83%.
DRED did generate a higher vote count than Hunt, while still managing a lower percentage of votes cast than Hunt.

Causes one to wonder .. if you take on a popular incumbent without a clear message, other than the incumbent sucks in your opinion, and you get trounced, is it fair to say in the future the challenger was HUNTED by the voters?

warren88...I am an out-of-towner/in-comer, and I haven't missed a single vote since moving here 15 years ago. kevinpate said it...87 out of 100 registered voters decided not to vote. Nuf said.

I think Ed has 2 things going for him in retaining his council seat. He will spend money and he works hard during the campaign. Someone is going to have to do the same to knock Ed off.

It reminds me of a great Mitch Hedberg quote, "I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it..."

That dude was funny.

My question from Steve's chat that shined a little light on why there were holdups on development announcements until after the elections:

10:49 Comment From Gary T
What was your understanding of the fear of ES getting elected? Were they afraid TIF funds would no longer be available?

10:50 Steve Lackmeyer:
That's one factor. But there are many more.

My question from Steve's chat that shined a little light on why there were holdups on development announcements until after the elections:

10:49 Comment From Gary T
What was your understanding of the fear of ES getting elected? Were they afraid TIF funds would no longer be available?

10:50 Steve Lackmeyer:
That's one factor. But there are many more.

I wish he would've expounded upon that.

I wish he would've expounded upon that.

I asked a follow up and will repost if he responds. Not sure if there is enough time.

As soon as I posted that, he logged off. Maybe next week.

Ward results of Tuesday’s election:

Ward 1 - Cornett 72, Shadid 26
Ward 2 - Cornett 58, Shadid 41
Ward 3 - Cornett 66, Shadid 32
Ward 4 - Cornett 64, Shadid 34
Ward 5 - Cornett 72, Shadid 27
Ward 6 - Cornett 53, Shadid 45
Ward 7 - Cornett ~49, Shadid ~49 (too close to call, due to split precincts)
Ward 8 - Cornett 79, Shadid 20

Percentage of all total votes (47,934) cast by ward:

Ward 1 - 15.4 percent
Ward 2 - 15.6 percent
Ward 3 - 8.1 percent
Ward 4 - 8.0 percent
Ward 5 - 12.1 percent
Ward 6 - 8.2 percent
Ward 7 - 13.1 percent
Ward 8 - 19.6 percent

maytal...is there anything out there as to a break down of how many dem, rep, ind voted for each candidate? Just curious.

Ward results of Tuesday’s election:

Ward 1 - Cornett 72, Shadid 26
Ward 2 - Cornett 58, Shadid 41
Ward 3 - Cornett 66, Shadid 32
Ward 4 - Cornett 64, Shadid 34
Ward 5 - Cornett 72, Shadid 27
Ward 6 - Cornett 53, Shadid 45
Ward 7 - Cornett ~49, Shadid ~49 (too close to call, due to split precincts)
Ward 8 - Cornett 79, Shadid 20

Percentage of all total votes (47,934) cast by ward:

Ward 1 - 15.4 percent
Ward 2 - 15.6 percent
Ward 3 - 8.1 percent
Ward 4 - 8.0 percent
Ward 5 - 12.1 percent
Ward 6 - 8.2 percent
Ward 7 - 13.1 percent
Ward 8 - 19.6 percent

Very cool to see my ward ( 8 ) had the highest percentage of the turnout. Maybe my sign waving helped and freezing my rear end off was worth it!!

maytal...is there anything out there as to a break down of how many dem, rep, ind voted for each candidate? Just curious.Couldn't be, since there's nothing on the ballot to indicate the voter's affiliation. In this election, we were ALL "independent" voters.

Couldn't be, since there's nothing on the ballot to indicate the voter's affiliation. In this election, we were ALL "independent" voters.

Jim...I thought there might be something at the County Election Board. Ya know...the "list" that "they" can bring up to show whom voted for which candidate...that certain list that doesn't exist (officially that is).