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Laramie 03-02-2014, 01:24 PM Laramie...did you by chance do any fact-checking on candidate Shadid's statement about the "1,100 appointees?" Shadid apparently did not like KH's question when he was asked where he (Shadid) got his information. I believe his response was, "we checked a lot of records." Uh-huh, right.
I wasn't sure about the 1,100 appointees. I do know that appointees are subject to a background check. He's probably close to being on target on that figure. In fairness to Dr. Shadid, it wouldn't be in his best interest to divulge his sources--this could compromise his sources and put others on the spot.
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bradh 03-02-2014, 01:26 PM Laramie...did you by chance do any fact-checking on candidate Shadid's statement about the "1,100 appointees?" Shadid apparently did not like KH's question when he was asked where he (Shadid) got his information. I believe his response was, "we checked a lot of records." Uh-huh, right.
Yeah he was definitely baffled a bit, and not at all confident in his figures.
bradh 03-02-2014, 01:27 PM but will show up eagerly on Wednesday.
I hope they show up Wednesday!
Dennis Heaton 03-02-2014, 01:43 PM I just checked the OKC City Council Agenda for Tuesday, Mar 4. Should make for an interesting day.
soonerguru 03-02-2014, 01:57 PM Describes the activity of a few Mick supporters on this board pretty well. (Soonerguru)
Be more specific. Which lies?
Are you sad that your boy Shadid sent out the hateful gay-baiting mail? I haven't seen any anti-Shadid mail in my mail box. If you have, please feel free to share with the group.
I also haven't seen the mayor's mail trying to promote the hatred of gays to get votes. Have you?
Again, which lies?
It must be sad and disappointing for you and the other DRED minions that Shadid didn't get crucified in direct mail and negative TV ads. That is, after all, what you promised would happen. You had your supporters wound up about some kind of "unprecedented outside money" that was going to be spent to attack Team DRED.
Must be a real bummer to run against a campaign that is solely, "Our guy is doing a good job and our city is improving." Meanwhile, nothing but bile and gutter tactics from your chosen candidate. And you're still losing. Big.
Midtowner 03-02-2014, 02:51 PM Shadid disavowed that mailer, but I think that's a lie as well. This was delivered on the Friday before election day--before the media could beat him up too badly about it before election day. Just another lie from a desperate campaign doing what desperate campaigns do.
soonerguru 03-02-2014, 02:55 PM Shadid disavowed that mailer, but I think that's a lie as well. This was delivered on the Friday before election day--before the media could beat him up too badly about it before election day. Just another lie from a desperate campaign doing what desperate campaigns do.
I didn't think anything could be more pathetic than that mailing -- and then I read DRED's "apology." Wow. What a dum-dum he is if he thinks 1) Anyone buys that, 2) Anyone would even recognize that as an apology, and 3) that mealy-mouthed prattle would undo the damage caused by the mailing in the first place.
On the last weekend of the election, instead of trying to reach out to gain new voters, Ed Shadid and his pathetic campaign are trolling around Facebook trying to offer "explanations" to the gay community as to why Ed screwed them over.
This shows just how utterly incompetent and undisciplined Ed is. It's what we've known all along.
I must say, though, that it is quite impressive when a candidate somehow manages to perform even worse than your already low expectations.
Tier2City 03-02-2014, 03:13 PM As even David Glover will admit, Shadid is his own worst enemy. Once again, in his own words:
Posted by Ed Shadid for Okc 0. on February 28, 2014 · Flag
Today, I was blindsided by some of the language used in a mailer from my campaign. I did not authorize the language in the mailer and my campaign manager, who is a gay combat veteran, also gave specific instructions to the consultant who drafted the language that it not be used.
The focus of the message on today's mailer was to highlight Mick's duplicitous stance towards the LGBT community. While I have always been a fierce advocate for the LGBT community, Mick waivers from running on an anti-gay platform in multiple elections to accepting an endorsement this week from a handful of gay Oklahomans. While this language is regrettable, I will continue to relentlessly advocate for and point out injustices against every marginalized community in our city.
warreng88 03-02-2014, 03:28 PM In response to the question "what does okc need to do better at?" He talked about coming up with a "plan" for the city and he said, "How much is it going to cost to provide police, fire, medical transport and water to 620 square miles." His push all along has been to increase police and fire presence in okc and he has no idea how much it is going to cost.
warreng88 03-02-2014, 03:32 PM "This mayor is obsessed with building a mile long park downtown separated by a ten land super highway with no plans on how to pay for the operations and maintenance of this 70 acre park."
warreng88 03-02-2014, 03:38 PM I will say my biggest problem with Ed is that he does not have concrete ideas of his own, he just attacks and attacks the doings of his opponent.
betts 03-02-2014, 04:10 PM In response to the question "what does okc need to do better at?" He talked about coming up with a "plan" for the city and he said, "How much is it going to cost to provide police, fire, medical transport and water to 620 square miles." His push all along has been to increase police and fire presence in okc and he has no idea how much it is going to cost.
Or how to pay for it. If he thinks $3 million for a park is something, try the 200 police officers he wants to hire, plus firemen, plus benefits and pensions. What's his plan? Same with buses. One of the COTPA people was asked what it would cost to implement the bus system outlined in the fixed guideways study, which I'm sure would be the ideal bus system for OKC per Ed. Not counting the cost of purchasing the equipment, I think the estimate was $40 million per year for O&M. He's never given a plan for anything. It's easy to promise people things when you have absolutely no intention of carrying them out. He knows he doesn't have the council backing to get anything passed. In fact, one of them told me he joked about a resolution, "Just get me to oppose it and everyone will vote for it." That's not very funny, actually, if you're hoping to be mayor. It's sad commentary on your coalition-building ability, which is what is important in a weak mayoral system.
Easy180 03-02-2014, 04:50 PM I will say my biggest problem with Ed is that he does not have concrete ideas of his own, he just attacks and attacks the doings of his opponent.
We have a huge problem in America with folks who wake up each morning just looking for something to bitch about...Unfortunately social media and cable news gives them their daily fix.
Dennis Heaton 03-02-2014, 05:20 PM We have a huge problem in America with folks who wake up each morning just looking for something to bitch about...Unfortunately social media and cable news gives them their daily fix.
Ain't like the old days...
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sroberts24 03-02-2014, 06:16 PM Shadid has sent another email to the FOP members.
warreng88 03-02-2014, 06:32 PM Shadid has sent another email to the FOP members.
What did it say?
sroberts24 03-02-2014, 06:47 PM Here it is...
Dear FOP Members:
I am writing to ask for your support and your vote on March 4th.
I have given the city everything I have. I have completely changed the conversation and city politics will not be the same going forward. I have successfully pushed the conversation in this campaign to focus on public safety and the need to fight the decay of neighborhoods in all sectors of the city.
If we are going to be a big-league city, it is time to act like it. As mayor I would never hide from a public debate and I will always be available and willing to explain my policy positions to the people of Oklahoma City. As mayor I will stop the practice of withholding studies and information the public needs to make decisions. My loyalty is only to the people of Oklahoma City.
There is one obligation that I hold sacred. I have sworn to God that I will be a servant leader and fulfill his mandate in Proverbs 31:8-9 that I should speak up for those without a voice, for the destitute, the poor and the needy. The city's "good ole boy" network will always have a seat at the table; I intend to give everyone else a seat as well.
As mayor my door will always be wide open to the FOP. I am so grateful for the men and women of FOP and I strongly believe we can have a special and productive working relationship for years to come.
I need three things from you at this late hour in the campaign:
I need your vote on March 4th.
I need help distributing door hangers to supporters over the next three days as well as making phone calls and distributing yard signs. We will be at our office at 7th and Hudson at all hours of the day and night. No amount of time donated is too small. Feel free to call as well at 212-3068.
Please call your friends on the contact list on your phone as well as tell your friends, family and neighbors that there is an election on March 4th and ask them to vote for me for a more inclusive, transparent and fiscally responsible city.
I am grateful for your support and I look forward to moving the city forward. With your help, I will be a mayor for ALL of Oklahoma City.
Sincerely,
Ed Shadid
CaptDave 03-02-2014, 10:23 PM VOTE!
Do not let poll results dissuade you from voting. It takes going to the voting booth to make polls become election results.
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PennyQuilts 03-02-2014, 10:32 PM Ed is surging. Unsure remains unsure.
CaptDave 03-02-2014, 10:38 PM His surge came from Hughes and Sarge. Still behind almost 40 points. Cornett supporters cannot assume anything - worst thing anyone can do is assume enough other people voted.
soonerguru 03-02-2014, 10:45 PM Ed will pick up pretty much all of the other candidates' votes. The mayor's topline is essentially unchanged, which could be statistical noise in a poll with a margin of error. In the end, Ed will get about 35% of the vote. The mayor should be around 60% or more.
But this won't happen unless you VOTE!!! Every one of you on this thread should vote! VOTE! VOTE! VOTE! Polls are meaningless without your votes.
ljbab728 03-02-2014, 10:57 PM Mick or Catalyst/OKCUnited?
I have no idea. I didn't examine them that closely and no longer have them. It's not important to me.
mkjeeves 03-03-2014, 07:25 AM Be more specific.
You and your cohorts committing libel on this forum. It doesn't get any more sleazy than that.
Cite: http://www.okctalk.com/general-civic-issues/34251-okc-mayor-race-2014-a-112.html#post737485
Trolling..you repeatedly posted large bodies of text, large graphics and large fonts to spam up the forum when you don't agree with something posted.
betts 03-03-2014, 07:42 AM In 48 hours it will all be over. Seriously though, I've always thought Edgar and perhaps you, mkjeeves, had been charged with repeatedly posting to cover up anything negative about Ed.
Regardless, I doubt there are many undecideds anymore. And I suspect a lot of the late undecideds never get around to voting.
Hopefully a lot of people care enough about the future of OKC to go to the polls.
mkjeeves 03-03-2014, 07:53 AM I've always thought....
I've thought Joe Blow was so angry about the election he beats his wife. Maybe I'll go one step more and follow that up by just saying Joe is a wife beater. Especially when Joe is saying things I don't agree with. I want to discredit everything I agree with by any means I can.
That seems to suit some Mick supporter sensibilities of behavior. There are laws you know, for when some people don't have ethics.
BrettM2 03-03-2014, 07:57 AM I've thought Joe Blow was so angry about the election he beats his wife. Maybe I'll go one step more and follow that up by just saying Joe is a wife beater. Especially when Joe is saying things I don't agree with. I want to discredit everything I agree with by any means I can.
That seems to suit some Mick supporter sensibilities of behavior. There are laws you know.
Big difference between you thinking and the allegations coming out from his ex-wife.
mkjeeves 03-03-2014, 08:01 AM Big difference between you thinking and the allegations coming out from his ex-wife.
Joe Blow, the hypothetical poster on this forum we have decided to make crap up about. Like Soonerguru decided to post lies about.
It's not libel to say Ed used drugs or any of the other facts we know about him. He admitted he did.
PennyQuilts 03-03-2014, 08:06 AM Ugly, ugly, ugly.
Of Sound Mind 03-03-2014, 08:12 AM That seems to suit some Mick supporter sensibilities of behavior. There are laws you know, for when some people don't have ethics.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Rover 03-03-2014, 08:27 AM Nm
Midtowner 03-03-2014, 08:37 AM I've thought Joe Blow was so angry about the election he beats his wife. Maybe I'll go one step more and follow that up by just saying Joe is a wife beater. Especially when Joe is saying things I don't agree with. I want to discredit everything I agree with by any means I can.
That seems to suit some Mick supporter sensibilities of behavior. There are laws you know, for when some people don't have ethics.
A supporter of Shadid's lecturing anyone about ethics after that last mailer is just.. well... a tad hypocritical. You can't run for LGBT rights and then attack your opponent for supporting LGBT rights at the same time. It's one or the other.
betts 03-03-2014, 08:40 AM I enjoyed Dr. Taco's blog though. I think it outlines some of the struggles people have choosing a candidate for whom to vote. And I do think it ironic that a lot of the young people voting for Ed seem to think OKC as it is today sprang full-blown from some Zeus-like creatures' head (sorry, bad mythology reference) and don't recognize precisely what people started the ball rolling. Or that the ball could stop rolling, potentially.
I really do think it's almost time for an Ed-like candidate here in OKC. Just not Ed. I'm waiting for a youngish, exciting, ethical, consistent, honest candidate who can address some of the issues a thriving, but not yet there, city needs. We need to get greener, we need to not just promote alternate forms of transit but get excited about them, need to get younger and more innovative yada yada.
But Mick is just fine for now. Good, really. I'm hoping that if he's elected, we establish an RTD soon and start talking about a small permanent tax for transit. I think that better transit will be the game changer for OKC, the final boost that starts getting us comparisons with other exciting cities on the rise.
Tier2City 03-03-2014, 08:40 AM A supporter of Shadid's lecturing anyone about ethics after that last mailer is just.. well... a tad hypocritical. You can't run for LGBT rights and then attack your opponent for supporting LGBT rights at the same time. It's one or the other.
That wasn't Shadid's ethics - just the ethics of the consultant he hired:
Posted by Ed Shadid for Okc 0. on February 28, 2014 · Flag
Today, I was blindsided by some of the language used in a mailer from my campaign. I did not authorize the language in the mailer and my campaign manager, who is a gay combat veteran, also gave specific instructions to the consultant who drafted the language that it not be used.
The focus of the message on today's mailer was to highlight Mick's duplicitous stance towards the LGBT community. While I have always been a fierce advocate for the LGBT community, Mick waivers from running on an anti-gay platform in multiple elections to accepting an endorsement this week from a handful of gay Oklahomans. While this language is regrettable, I will continue to relentlessly advocate for and point out injustices against every marginalized community in our city.
soonerguru 03-03-2014, 08:43 AM You and your cohorts committing libel on this forum. It doesn't get any more sleazy than that.
Cite: http://www.okctalk.com/general-civic-issues/34251-okc-mayor-race-2014-a-112.html#post737485
Trolling..you repeatedly posted large bodies of text, large graphics and large fonts to spam up the forum when you don't agree with something posted.
Forgive me then. I must have been wrong in my assumption that you are not an undecided voter, and favor Ed Shadid. Oy vey. #confused
Tier2City 03-03-2014, 08:45 AM I really do think it's almost time for an Ed-like candidate here in OKC. Just not Ed.
Oh the Shakespearean tragedy! Think where we would have been without the hypocrisy, ego and paranoia. And think where we could have been with a demonstrated consensus builder who had tractable, realistic and costed policy proposals.
Midtowner 03-03-2014, 08:54 AM That wasn't Shadid's ethics - just the ethics of the consultant he hired:
Posted by Ed Shadid for Okc 0. on February 28, 2014 · Flag
Today, I was blindsided by some of the language used in a mailer from my campaign. I did not authorize the language in the mailer and my campaign manager, who is a gay combat veteran, also gave specific instructions to the consultant who drafted the language that it not be used.
The focus of the message on today's mailer was to highlight Mick's duplicitous stance towards the LGBT community. While I have always been a fierce advocate for the LGBT community, Mick waivers from running on an anti-gay platform in multiple elections to accepting an endorsement this week from a handful of gay Oklahomans. While this language is regrettable, I will continue to relentlessly advocate for and point out injustices against every marginalized community in our city.
After all of the lies and half-truths from the Shadid campaign, I'm not inclined to believe that. This happened on the Friday before election day. This happened this way because Shadid's campaign knew it was a sleazy mailer and didn't want to give the press (like the Gazette, which publishes on Wednesday) any time to address it. This is a common thing that doomed campaigns do on Fridays before election day.
Even if this is true, Ed needs to take responsibility. These are people he hired and if he has a policy of letting them mail things out without his approval, then that's on him.
Midtowner 03-03-2014, 09:06 AM You and your cohorts committing libel on this forum. It doesn't get any more sleazy than that.
Cite: http://www.okctalk.com/general-civic-issues/34251-okc-mayor-race-2014-a-112.html#post737485
Trolling..you repeatedly posted large bodies of text, large graphics and large fonts to spam up the forum when you don't agree with something posted.
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--seriously though, this is dumb. It's pretty tough to libel an anonymous person on the internet.
warreng88 03-03-2014, 09:12 AM I really did like Mick's response on Flashpoint as to why he wasn't debating. I don't have the direct quote in front of me but it was something like he said at the beginning of the race he would debate if things were kept civil and that didn't happen pretty quickly from the beginning. Why would he debate a person who has said so many lies about him that he has to spend the entire debate correcting the person making the claims.
warreng88 03-03-2014, 09:21 AM Here it is:
Kelly Ogle asks, "Why won't you debate Ed Shadid? Because that has been an issue during this campaign."
Mick responded, "Well, we were very clear up front that if the other candidates and their supporters would run a proactive, positive campaign that had some level of accuracy to their accusations or beliefs, that we would be glad to sit down and consider a debate. But as long as it was going to be based on so many mistruths, it just didn't seem to make sense to just sit there and be attacked on things that weren't even true or accurate. I think the voters have finally figured a lot of that out. We've stayed positive the entire campaign. When the campaign began, that was our goal, but we didn't know if we would be able to stay positive the whole way. And fortunately and eventually, I think the citizens out that a divisive campaign is not in Oklahoma City's best interests."
Laramie 03-03-2014, 01:24 PM Reminder
OUR CITY'S FUTURE IS AT STAKE.
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Sample Ballot Link Below:
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Oklahoma City Mayoral Election
Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2014
Polls: Open Time: 7:00 am - Close 7:00 pm
We don't need to burden the taxpayers with a run-off election; this needs to be a slam dunk!
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warreng88 03-03-2014, 01:27 PM Just curious, how is it decided who is listed in what order on the ballot? It is not alphabetical by first or last name. Is it by when they signed up to run for mayor? Is it randon?
mkjeeves 03-03-2014, 02:48 PM --seriously though, this is dumb. It's pretty tough to libel an anonymous person on the internet.
Lot of dumb assumptions in this and your other post, along with your usual self puffery. There are people on this forum I'm not anonymous to. Second, lies are lies, hypocrisy is hypocrisy, and libel is libel. No surprise another Mick supporter would abandon ethics, attempt to trivialize that in favor of his political agenda.
The issue du jour that got us here was ill behaved Mick supporters. You fit right in.
Jim Kyle 03-03-2014, 03:35 PM Just got a robocall (which in this case is probably quite legal) purporting to be from an FOP representative, urging me to cast my vote for "the only candidate who supports public safety." Exactly what one would expect from the Teamsters Union in the days of Jimmy Hoffa, but I thought the police were supposed to remain studiously neutral, not support a person who has admitted to violation of a number of laws in the past...
Midtowner 03-03-2014, 05:24 PM Lot of dumb assumptions in this and your other post, along with your usual self puffery. There are people on this forum I'm not anonymous to. Second, lies are lies, hypocrisy is hypocrisy, and libel is libel. No surprise another Mick supporter would abandon ethics, attempt to trivialize that in favor of his political agenda.
The issue du jour that got us here was ill behaved Mick supporters. You fit right in.
Okay? And so the libelous language is that people are insinuating you're a Shadid supporter when really, you want to hold your nose and vote for Cornett?
“Libel is a false or malicious unprivileged publication by writing, printing, picture, or effigy or other fixed representation to the eye, which exposes any person to public hatred, contempt, ridicule or obloquy, or which tends to deprive him of public confidence, or to injure him in his occupation,....” 12 O.S.2011 § 1441. In an action for defamation, a private figure must prove (1) a false and defamatory statement of and concerning him or her, (2) an unprivileged publication to a third party, (3) fault amounting at least to negligence on the part of the publisher; and (4) either the actionability of the statement irrespective of special damage, that is, libel per se, or the existence of special damage, libel per quod. Restatement of Laws, Second, Torts 2d, § 558 (1977); White v. City of Del City, 2012 OK CIV APP 5, ¶ 21, 270 P.3d 205, 213–214; Springer v. Richardson Law Firm, 2010 OK CIV APP 72, ¶ 7, 239 P.3d 473, 475; Trice v. Burress, 2006 OK CIV APP 79, ¶ 10, 137 P.3d 1253, 1257. “It is well settled that ‘The language used must, however, be such that persons reading or hearing it will, in the light of surrounding circumstances, be able to understand that it refers to the person complaining, and it must have been so understood by at least one other person ...’ ” Layman v. Readers Digest Ass'n, 1965 OK 162, ¶ 16, 412 P.2d 192, 195. (Citations omitted.) That is *251 to say, “ ‘[i]n order to entitle one to maintain an action for an alleged defamatory statement, it must appear that he is the person with reference to whom the statement is made.’ ” Layman, 1965 OK 162, ¶ 21, 412 P.2d at 196. (Citation omitted.)
--Bates v. Cast, 316 P.3d 246, 2014 OK CIV APP 8
So again, tell me, o internet lawyer, how the implication that you might vote for Shadid is going to pass that test? I mean, based on all you've written here yourself, you should be suing yourself for defamation if that's the case... because you really sound like someone in Shadid's camp.
Midtowner 03-03-2014, 05:25 PM Just got a robocall (which in this case is probably quite legal) purporting to be from an FOP representative, urging me to cast my vote for "the only candidate who supports public safety." Exactly what one would expect from the Teamsters Union in the days of Jimmy Hoffa, but I thought the police were supposed to remain studiously neutral, not support a person who has admitted to violation of a number of laws in the past...
The FOP yanked its endorsement. I imagine the rank and file still by and large support Shadid because he's promised them things he doesn't have the power to deliver (or wouldn't as mayor). What public safety initiatives has he been a part of during his time in the Council?
PennyQuilts 03-03-2014, 05:29 PM Just curious, how is it decided who is listed in what order on the ballot? It is not alphabetical by first or last name. Is it by when they signed up to run for mayor? Is it randon?
I think the order is done by lot - I found something to that effect for 2010 but don't know if that has changed since then.
jerrywall 03-03-2014, 05:37 PM The FOP yanked its endorsement. I imagine the rank and file still by and large support Shadid because he's promised them things he doesn't have the power to deliver (or wouldn't as mayor). What public safety initiatives has he been a part of during his time in the Council?
Did they actually yank their endorsement?
Midtowner 03-03-2014, 05:52 PM Did they actually yank their endorsement?
FOP Pulls Shadid Support, Cites ?Recent disclosures? | The McCarville Report (http://mccarvillereport.com/archives/16626)
“In light of recent disclosures made by Councilman Shadid to the Oklahoma Gazette in respect to his drug use, that was not made to our membership, the Executive Board has decided to not actively be involved in the campaign at this time. We will not take any further action or spend and more money, until the Membership has a chance to meet on Jan. 9th, to discuss the issue. I am going to speak to Councilman Shadid to see if will issue an explanation to our members and if I get that I will send it out at that time. The FOP still feels strongly that the next Mayor should prioritize increased police staffing, and we will continue to advocate aggressively for that position through the election and beyond.”
I did a Google search for FOP announcements re: Shadid after January 9th. Nada.
flintysooner 03-03-2014, 06:07 PM The endorsement is still on the website:
Endorsements - Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 123 (http://www.fop123okc.com/endorsements/)
Endorsements
Councilman Ed Shadid for Mayor
It is with great pride that the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 123 endorses Councilman Ed Shadid for Oklahoma City Mayor.
On September 12, 2013 members of the lodge voted unanimously to support Shadid in his campaign. Public safety and crime is a major concern to the citizens who live in the Oklahoma City metro area. This endorsement reflects our belief that Ed Shadid best understands the difficult job faced by members of the law enforcement community.
Teo9969 03-03-2014, 06:07 PM So nervous…the only thing I have the power to do is vote for the right candidate, and I can't even do that :-(
Midtowner 03-03-2014, 06:09 PM The endorsement is still on the website:
Endorsements - Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 123 (http://www.fop123okc.com/endorsements/)
They withdrew their endorsement on December 12th. Never saw where they renewed it.
flintysooner 03-03-2014, 06:13 PM Guess they do not keep up the website.
Firefighters still have Ed Shadid endorsed, too, on website:
IAFF Local 157 (http://www.local157.org/index.cfm?zone=/unionactive/election_list.cfm)
Election Endorsements
Mayor of Oklahoma City
Dr. Ed Shadid, N/A
Official Campaign Website
flintysooner 03-03-2014, 06:15 PM Not that I would expect either the FOP or the IAFF to support Cornett.
okseer 03-03-2014, 06:18 PM Joe Blow, the hypothetical poster on this forum we have decided to make crap up about. Like Soonerguru decided to post lies about.
It's not libel to say Ed used drugs or any of the other facts we know about him. He admitted he did.
Well Ed kind of admitted a small part of it. After his unsuccessful attempt to keep the records sealed he was forced to come clean. I do really see this as a full admission. Kind of like the guy is sorry he got caught and is reacting to that
foodiefan 03-03-2014, 07:15 PM just got a robo call from FOP endorsing Ed Shadid. . .if I have to walk to vote, I will!!
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catch22 03-03-2014, 07:46 PM They look so happy next to each other! Is Bezdek campaigning for Shadid again?
Tier2City 03-03-2014, 07:48 PM Here's the full Red Dirt Report story. By the way, what happened to Edgar?
LIZ BURLESON | MARCH 1, 2014
Category: Red Dirt Politics
OKLAHOMA CITY - Many citizens in Oklahoma City were likely surprised upon receiving a flier from the Ed Shadid campaign which contained what Shadid is calling “regrettable language.” The mailer sent out reportedly speaks out against the gay community, specifically the recent controversial play The Most Fabulous Story Ever Told which ran during the holiday season and takes an Adam and Steve approach to biblical stories.
Shadid, who himself has gay employees on his campaign staff including his campaign manager, was shocked to hear of anti-gay language on a flier that was circulated without approval. The mailer was, in fact, initially intended to highlight incumbent Mick Cornett’s “duplicitous” relationship with the LGBT community in Oklahoma City over the years.
During his 2001 campaign, Cornett was miffed to find that he had been endorsed by The Cimarron Alliance Group, led by then President Paul Bashline. In a story on NewsOK, he stated that letters of endorsement from the group, who denied their involvement with the fliers, were sent out in order to damage his campaign stating, "I didn't seek (their endorsement) and was surprised to get it," Cornett said. He went on to state that he had declined their financial support and that he was opposed to gay rights.
Shadid now finds his campaign in the opposite position with a mailer that clearly opposes his stance on equal rights for the LGBT community in OKC. His statement posted yesterday on his website Elect Dr. Ed Shadid for OKC Mayor 2014 (http://www.edshadid.com/) was as follows:
“Today, I was blindsided by some of the language used in a mailer from my campaign. I did not authorize the language in the mailer and my campaign manager, who is a gay combat veteran, also gave specific instructions to the consultant who drafted the language that it not be used.
The focus of the message on today's mailer was to highlight Mick's duplicitous stance towards the LGBT community. While I have always been a fierce advocate for the LGBT community, Mick waivers from running on an anti-gay platform in multiple elections to accepting an endorsement this week from a handful of gay Oklahomans. While this language is regrettable, I will continue to relentlessly advocate for and point out injustices against every marginalized community in our city.”
Urban Pioneer 03-03-2014, 07:49 PM lolz. I sought that seat out to see how much I could make him squirm.
catch22 03-03-2014, 07:52 PM lolz. I sought that seat out to see how much I could make him squirm.
That's awesome!
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