Brilliance.

Utter Brilliance.
Indeed.

Paula Deen Uses Prop 8 Ruling to Seek Partial Dismissal of N-Word Case (Exclusive) - Yahoo! TV (http://tv.yahoo.com/news/paula-deen-uses-prop-8-ruling-seek-partial-212010794.html)

I know people will focus on the prop 8 part and not on the actual statement by her lawyers, but I thought their argument was actually pretty savvy and using the Supreme Court's recent ruling was a clever and prudent way for them to ask for dismissal. It won't answer whether the complaints are actually true, but it does poke holes in the notion that Jackson even has grounds to sue in the first place.

nice try, ivan. your kgb handlers trained you well... but not well enough. -M
Comrade, LOL!
No really, my mom was from North Carolins and we never had mashed
potatoes with fried chicken. Of course, we're from the 50's, before the
food chain revolution took hold.

Anytime I hire a fly fishing guide in North Carolina I always ask them what's
served with fried chicken. I've yet to have one say mashed potatoes. The
Answer has always been rice with chicken gravy (gravy made from the
drippings.)

Try it. You'll think you're having dessert with your meal.

Have to differ from PP on this one - my great grandmother came into this
world in South Texas near San Antonio and was the world's finest cook,
bar none.
I should have specified the South East. The gravy was make with
Milnot (evaporated milk) because Mom's parents couldn't afford a cow.

A few years ago there were some kids who lived down the street and
were from South Carolina. I asked them what their mom served with
fried chicken. Yes, I always ask what Southerners have with fried chicken.
Three of the four screamed, "Rice and Gravy!" I'll never forget that. The
fourth was only about two and couldn't talk.

Ever have fried salt pork, biscuits and salt pork gravy? Incredible.

Fried salt pork is fantastic. Almost as good as the crispy pork skin that my grandfather made.

I should have specified the South East. The gravy was make with
Milnot (evaporated milk) because Mom's parents couldn't afford a cow.

A few years ago there were some kids who lived down the street and
were from South Carolina. I asked them what their mom served with
fried chicken. Yes, I always ask what Southerners have with fried chicken.
Three of the four screamed, "Rice and Gravy!" I'll never forget that. The
fourth was only about two and couldn't talk.

Ever have fried salt pork, biscuits and salt pork gravy? Incredible.

My better half is from Alabama and eh they always serve rice and gravy with fried chicken and also with roast. It should be noted however they are Irish which means they shout too loud, drink too much and love Arby's.

In fairness to PP, and a tip of the hat to Carolina roots, while mashed taters and gravy were far more common growing up, we weren't total strangers to rice and gravy.

I'm a fan of rice to this day, sometimes with gravy, sometimes garlic, butter and cheese, and sometimes a touch of warm milk and waaaayyyy too much sugar. All depends on the mood.

As an aside to PP, my own Carolina roots are western NC, to the S and E of Lake Lure (Frog Hollar, Pea Ridge, Spindale, Forrest City.) Many a summer trip involved a week stay at Ridgecrest Baptist Conference and then further on into NC, and side trips to SC, to visit the maternal kin.

Mom was the youngest and last member of her generation, gone two years today. My lovely makes good gravy, but yeah, I find myself missing mom's gravy today.

Up in Minnesota, they throw some fried chicken in a baking dish, cover it with Cream of Mushroom soup, various canned vegetables, and wild rice, then top it with those dessicated onions from a can, put it in the oven for awhile and call it Fried Chicken Hotdish. It isn't "rice and gravy" but it's close.

I'm trying hard to recall if I remember Andy ever telling Opie that they were having fried chicken and rice.

If what's in the depositions is true, she deserves everything that's happened over the past week or so. She's 66 years old, the same age as me. She's not some octogenarian whose behavior can be excused because of where and when she grew up.

Up in Minnesota, they throw some fried chicken in a baking dish, cover it with Cream of Mushroom soup, various canned vegetables, and wild rice, then top it with those dessicated onions from a can, put it in the oven for awhile and call it Fried Chicken Hotdish. It isn't "rice and gravy" but it's close.

OMG, THAT is blasphemy. It may taste good but it ain't right.

I'm trying hard to recall if I remember Andy ever telling Opie that they were having fried chicken and rice.

Andy and Opie ate whatever was placed in front of them. Aunt Bea was not one to trifle with. I canna attest to her tellyvision cooking skills, but my own version of Aunt Bea, as lovely a psuedo gramdmother as one could ever hope for, made living apart from Gramma Rose bearable. Everyone should have a Ms. Kersey in their lives, if only to help you appreciate how much better blackbberry cobbler is when she wears your hiney out from going with her to pick the blackberries.

Andy and Opie ate whatever was placed in front of them. Aunt Bea was not one to trifle with. I canna attest to her tellyvision cooking skills, but my own version of Aunt Bea, as lovely a psuedo gramdmother as one could ever hope for, made living apart from Gramma Rose bearable. Everyone should have a Ms. Kersey in their lives, if only to help you appreciate how much better blackbberry cobbler is when she wears your hiney out from going with her to pick the blackberries.

All true. Life was simpler when the biggest thing most kids had to worry about was staying on grandma's good side.

When I think about how grandmas of old ruled supreme, I think I might have gotten gypped. If it would result in supreme power, I would even learn to cook.

All true. Life was simpler when the biggest thing most kids had to worry about was staying on grandma's good side.

That, along with remembering there is truly no benefit to picking out a wimpy switch if you are sent to fetch one after being a brat.

That, along with remembering there is truly no benefit to picking out a wimpy switch if you are sent to fetch one after being a brat.

Good lesson to learn, true...

I actually always felt sorry for the kids who had to go get a switch. The horror you knew was awaiting and your forced capitulation into your own hide tanning was an essential psychological element to old school child rearing. In my household, my grandmother generally just grabbed the closest thing, typically a hairbrush or a house slipper, and it was primarily a question of can I outrun her or not? (The screaming women fleeing the murderer in a horror flick had nothing on me). The eruption was alarming but I was generally left with a What the h*ll just happened??? mindset rather than being traumatized at a long, drawn out, controlled, centuries old confident and approved child rearing technique such as "the switch." :)

MsProudSooner,
I am certainly not going to defend PD, but I am almost 70, and trust me, where she grew up was a lot different than here in Oklahoma. In 1966 I saw my first whites only water fountains and bathrooms in South Carolina. The marches in Selma Alabama were the mid 60's, and it was 1959 when we had the sit-ins at Katz drugstore, where blacks couldn't sit at the counter. And how about the race riots in the late 60's, white flight and judge Bohanon in the early 70's. Our generation (and I am including you and PD) was not pure. I think our children are so much better, and the grandchildren... And I certainly knew the wrong words to use, but fortunately my mother raised me to not use the words and worked hard to make sure that I wasn't a bigot/racist and I think she did pretty well. I am certainly not "without sin" though. I know you said "if" concerning her guilt, and that's my feeling as well, innocent until proven guilty.
C. T.
If what's in the depositions is true, she deserves everything that's happened over the past week or so. She's 66 years old, the same age as me. She's not some octogenarian whose behavior can be excused because of where and when she grew up.

OMG, THAT is blasphemy. It may taste good but it ain't right.
Yeah. I know. It's the kind of thing that makes people vote for Jessie Ventura and Al Franken.

I'm trying hard to recall if I remember Andy ever telling Opie that they were having fried chicken and rice.

I do seem to recall Andy telling Amos that they were having fried chicken and watermelon . . .
(but that was in a less over-sensitive world a long, long time ago.)

As an aside to PP, my own Carolina roots are western NC.
Mine, too. I try to return every year to fly fish.

I was just in North Carolina, near Hickory, last week. Gorgeous state and I can see why people love it.

I do seem to recall Andy telling Amos that they were having fried chicken and watermelon . . .
(but that was in a less over-sensitive world a long, long time ago.)

Different Andy.

I was just in North Carolina, near Hickory, last week. Gorgeous state and I can see why people love it.

Western NC is finer than frog hair.

Paula Deen accuser is singing new tune after legal agreement - latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-paula-deen-accuser-statement-20130823,0,1509652.story)

It looks like the circus is finally over in the Paula Deen Case. Settled with neither side walking away with Deen losing everything and Jackson with nothing gained singing the tune of "Deen is a woman of compassion and kindness that would never be racist or discriminate against others."

Stories like this are living proof that people need to stop taking media at their word. After all when people we know lie to us time and time again do we keep taking their word for full value. No, we don't. We call them out and we never trust a word they say until they start telling the truth on a consistent basis and rebuild their reputation.

People everywhere need to engage their brain when they watch the news and understand there are three sides to every story. The media's story is only a ball park estimate and it always lacks facts and key details that can change the whole story completely. Not to mention you have to keep in mind that there is a news director behind every story that wants you to act and feel a certain way about every story.