Yes. But it's almost shocking, to me, to see the huge population (houses/apartment) in and around Quail Springs...and yet...the mall has an odd feel to me. You'd think there would be a natural pull from the area population to bring vibrancy to the mall. Instead, it feels like its on life support.
Well not like this would dramatically affect mall attendance one way or the other but I will never cease to be baffled how there isn't a road connection to the apartments to the north. There's like 100ft. of roadbed needed to connect Quail Springs to the apartments to the north. Talk about dropping the ball.

Well not like this would dramatically affect mall attendance one way or the other but I will cease to be baffled how there isn't a road connection to the apartments to the north. There's like 100ft. of roadbed needed to connect Quail Springs to the apartments to the north. Talk about dropping the ball.

Right??? Even a promenade type entrance....a well planned, beautiful entrance from the north. No brainer!!

^^ Especially with the Fitness Center there, it's absurd that there is no entrance there.

If there is momentum at QSprings....it's going the wrong way. IMHO

If there is momentum at QSprings....it's going the wrong way. IMHO

Quail Springs has tried to re-purpose itself outside of traditional retail. Blue Zoo, Round One, and Lifetime Fitness and to a certain point, it has worked in slowing a mass exodus. Shopping mall decline is not unique to Quail Springs Mall. Metro's like OKC, Tulsa, and Wichita in 2022 can support one "thriving" regional retail mall at this point. For OKC it's Penn Square, Tulsa has Woodland Hills, and Wichita has Towne East. All of the past regional malls in these metro's are being repurposed. Promenade in Tulsa is turning the old Macy's into a ice skating center and the old Eastland Mall in West Tulsa is an office park and call center. Crossroad's Mall is going through another attempt of repurposing it's space. Woodland Hills is adding a theme park like sporting goods store in the old Sears space.

Eskimo Joes has annually opened a holiday store in Quail Springs, and other malls across the state, vacating December 31st is not out of the ordinary, just like the holiday toy and calendar stores. Quail Springs AMC has probably taken a large hit in foot traffic from Flix Brewhouse and Showbiz Cinema opening in the last few years pulling in a lot of traffic from Edmond and North OKC that normally would go to AMC 24 in the past.

With nearly every online store offering some form of quick and free shipping, it really deters people physically going to a store, a few mouse clicks versus dealing with Penn and Memorial traffic.

Also, consumer taste have heavily shifted. Recent wedding invites have couples registered at Amazon or asking for Best Buy gift cards for tech items and large appliances versus going to a place like Dillards or JCPenny to select china and linens. Teenagers seem to want iPhones and gaming consoles, the clothing brand loyalty dominance of the early 2000's is nearly non-existent.

Over the next few years it will be interesting to see what happens to Quail Springs Mall. The corridor itself is strong with other retail and household income and density looks to remain strong.

^^ Especially with the Fitness Center there, it's absurd that there is no entrance there.

The Fitness Center is one of the weirdest locations right across the mall and is a pain in the butt for parking, who thought of this awful idea to put a Fitness Center right behind the mall?

Quail Springs has tried to re-purpose itself outside of traditional retail. Blue Zoo, Round One, and Lifetime Fitness and to a certain point, it has worked in slowing a mass exodus. Shopping mall decline is not unique to Quail Springs Mall. Metro's like OKC, Tulsa, and Wichita in 2022 can support one "thriving" regional retail mall at this point. For OKC it's Penn Square, Tulsa has Woodland Hills, and Wichita has Towne East. All of the past regional malls in these metro's are being repurposed. Promenade in Tulsa is turning the old Macy's into a ice skating center and the old Eastland Mall in West Tulsa is an office park and call center. Crossroad's Mall is going through another attempt of repurposing it's space. Woodland Hills is adding a theme park like sporting goods store in the old Sears space.

Eskimo Joes has annually opened a holiday store in Quail Springs, and other malls across the state, vacating December 31st is not out of the ordinary, just like the holiday toy and calendar stores. Quail Springs AMC has probably taken a large hit in foot traffic from Flix Brewhouse and Showbiz Cinema opening in the last few years pulling in a lot of traffic from Edmond and North OKC that normally would go to AMC 24 in the past.

With nearly every online store offering some form of quick and free shipping, it really deters people physically going to a store, a few mouse clicks versus dealing with Penn and Memorial traffic.

Also, consumer taste have heavily shifted. Recent wedding invites have couples registered at Amazon or asking for Best Buy gift cards for tech items and large appliances versus going to a place like Dillards or JCPenny to select china and linens. Teenagers seem to want iPhones and gaming consoles, the clothing brand loyalty dominance of the early 2000's is nearly non-existent.

Over the next few years it will be interesting to see what happens to Quail Springs Mall. The corridor itself is strong with other retail and household income and density looks to remain strong.

The change as result of wedding registries is fascinating. Wedding crystal, china, linen, all no longer of interest and other than EBay and Replacements, LTD no market for resale. Makes me nostalgic for One Silver Place and BC Clark's old bridal service division.

The change as result of wedding registries is fascinating. Wedding crystal, china, linen, all no longer of interest and other than EBay and Replacements, LTD no market for resale. Makes me nostalgic for One Silver Place and BC Clark's old bridal service division.

Yup. Some young couples (around 25 years old) getting married and all they've asked for is store gift cards for places like Home Depot, Lowes, Ace, etc, for the purpose of buying an inexpensive starter/fixer-upper house.

Oh yeah, think twice before giving a Toilet Plunger as a gift. You'll be ostracized until they NEED one at 2:00 in the morning. Then you are a genius. Well, at least it's a practical gift.

Yesterday was my first time in Von Maur and I was very impressed! Reminded me of Lord & Taylor when I lived in Dallas. The Christmas decorations really made it special.

The Fitness Center is one of the weirdest locations right across the mall and is a pain in the butt for parking, who thought of this awful idea to put a Fitness Center right behind the mall?

I guess they didn't do too good a job of fittin' this center in there.

Well not like this would dramatically affect mall attendance one way or the other but I will never cease to be baffled how there isn't a road connection to the apartments to the north. There's like 100ft. of roadbed needed to connect Quail Springs to the apartments to the north. Talk about dropping the ball.

There should have definitely been a connection from the mall to Mezaluna Blvd (the n/s road to 145th St.), however, the apartment developers put 1st floor doors directly onto the street, like a townhome. That would be a traffic noise nightmare for residents. Its either very poor design planning by the apartments, or there was some assurance Mezaluna wouldn't be cut through.

I guess they didn't do too good a job of fittin' this center in there.

You are honestly not funny

Yesterday was my first time in Von Maur and I was very impressed! Reminded me of Lord & Taylor when I lived in Dallas. The Christmas decorations really made it special.
Agreed. A shame it’s wasted @ Quail.

You are honestly not funny

Watch it or I'll boop you on the nose. I know it sounds like an innocuous threat but our cat hates it when I do it.

Agreed. A shame it’s wasted @ Quail.

Quail at the time had the space open with Sears going out. On paper it was a good fit with traffic counts, density, and income demographics, this was between 2008-2010?

I agree that with what Penn Square offers, Von Maur would have fit in better, especially with Macy's leaving Quail, and Dillard's Quail Springs still looking like the day it opened in most areas.

Quail at the time had the space open with Sears going out. On paper it was a good fit with traffic counts, density, and income demographics, this was between 2008-2010?

I agree that with what Penn Square offers, Von Maur would have fit in better, especially with Macy's leaving Quail, and Dillard's Quail Springs still looking like the day it opened in most areas.

it opened in oct 2014

Heard a ramen place is going in that new strip center between Quail Springs and Industry. I believe it’s this place?

http://kyuramen.com/

Heard a ramen place is going in that new strip center between Quail Springs and Industry. I believe it’s this place?

http://kyuramen.com/


This is correct info.

That Kimchi ramen looks promising.

Oklahoma isn't listed on their coming soon page.

Oklahoma isn't listed on their coming soon page.


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Where did you see that? I went to the Locations page on their site and it has a map with multiple states listed as "Coming Soon" but not Oklahoma. Scroll down and it lists specific locations and Oklahoma is not included. I'm not doubting they're coming! And I look forward to it as they look really good (I've been looking for a place with okonomiyaki; I've been wanting to try it). I'm just missing it on the site.


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Where did you see that? I went to the Locations page on their site and it has a map with multiple states listed as "Coming Soon" but not Oklahoma. Scroll down and it lists specific locations and Oklahoma is not included. I'm not doubting they're coming! And I look forward to it as they look really good (I've been looking for a place with okonomiyaki; I've been wanting to try it). I'm just missing it on the site.


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Building permits I suspect. Maybe they just want to get further along with construction before putting on their site?

Express is closing. Long time mall staple.

Express is closing. Long time mall staple.

Timing probably coincides with this:

Retailer Express Holds Talks for Bankruptcy Financing
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-02/retailer-express-is-said-to-hold-talks-for-bankruptcy-financing

As I posted in the Express retail thread, today is the final day for the Quail Springs Mall store. It will very interesting to see what the mall fills this vacancy with after Express has been there forever.

We went to the mall this weekend and it was depressing. Chik -Fil-A was fairly busy but the other stores in the food court were dead. The "Cajun" place, that actually serves Chinese food) had about 1/3 of the trays containing old, dried up food and the rest were clean, and hadn't even been used. There was a young girl sitting in chair and she only went so far as to look up from her phone when we stopped to look at the food. We didn't see a single person go into the theater and the arcade and aquarium were also deserted.

We went to the mall this weekend and it was depressing. Chik -Fil-A was fairly busy but the other stores in the food court were dead. The "Cajun" place, that actually serves Chinese food) had about 1/3 of the trays containing old, dried up food and the rest were clean, and hadn't even been used. There was a young girl sitting in chair and she only went so far as to look up from her phone when we stopped to look at the food. We didn't see a single person go into the theater and the arcade and aquarium were also deserted.

That food court is not good. I've been a captive customer, waiting for a movie and hungry, and opted out of all the places there in favor of just getting random food inside the theatre. The arcade is pretty cool, and I haven't yet gone to the aquarium.

That food court is not good. I've been a captive customer, waiting for a movie and hungry, and opted out of all the places there in favor of just getting random food inside the theatre. The arcade is pretty cool, and I haven't yet gone to the aquarium.

We're big fans of the Greek place, there in the corner, which is actually why we were there. We used to eat at some of the other places, but they have gone downhill, unfortunately.

I'm a fan of the tiny little airsoft place, where you get fifty shots from an AR-15 airsoft rifle and if you knock all the targets down (I think 40'ish, or so), you get another magazine. I was hoping you could keep shooting as long as you knocked over all the targets, but nope...one extra magazine was the limit.

We're big fans of the Greek place, there in the corner, which is actually why we were there. We used to eat at some of the other places, but they have gone downhill, unfortunately.

I'm a fan of the tiny little airsoft place, where you get fifty shots from an AR-15 airsoft rifle and if you knock all the targets down (I think 40'ish, or so), you get another magazine. I was hoping you could keep shooting as long as you knocked over all the targets, but nope...one extra magazine was the limit.

That reminded me, I believe I did eat there the last time I ate at QSM. It was quite good, but also very deserted, like everything else not Chick-Fil-A when I've been up there. I'm not a very adventurous eater, so I was surprised to find something they offered that I did like.

It doesn't help the food court that there's like 20 great places to eat within a mile or of the mall that we almost always hit up if we're going to the mall for something before or after.

It doesn't help the food court that there's like 20 great places to eat within a mile or of the mall that we almost always hit up if we're going to the mall for something before or after.

And the food court itself is on its own, separate level and not very well integrated with the rest of the mall.

In contrast, the eateries at Penn Square are far more visible and have lots of good options and strong crowds.

QS needs this
Netflix set to open fan experience at Galleria Mall Dallas
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/netflix-fan-experience-to-open-at-galleria-dallas/3570473/?amp=1

QS needs this
Netflix set to open fan experience at Galleria Mall Dallas
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/netflix-fan-experience-to-open-at-galleria-dallas/3570473/?amp=1

I don't get the appeal, but then, I gave up Netflix when they started inserting ads and tiering their offerings based on subscription

I don't get the appeal, but then, I gave up Netflix when they started inserting ads and tiering their offerings based on subscription

I gave it up when they changed their account sharing policy, greedy "people"

QS needs this
Netflix set to open fan experience at Galleria Mall Dallas
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/netflix-fan-experience-to-open-at-galleria-dallas/3570473/?amp=1

This is going to be one of those weird abandoned places kids watch a youtube video about in 20 years.

I gave it up when they changed their account sharing policy, greedy "people"

Wait… you are calling them greedy because they don’t want people ripping them off? Interesting. But the people stealing their service are upstanding and have a right to do so? Love today’s sense of ethics.

Wait… you are calling them greedy because they don’t want people ripping them off? Interesting. But the people stealing their service are upstanding and have a right to do so? Love today’s sense of ethics.

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7 years ago. I guess companies can't change as they see economics change. Got it.

7 years ago. I guess companies can't change as they see economics change. Got it.

and the company's thoughts and the low level pr twitter person are also not the same thing

This is going to be one of those weird abandoned places kids watch a youtube video about in 20 years.

I don't see it being anything more than a marketing thing in a more populated market.

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Not sure your point other than to justify the rampant abuse of their log in. You know full well how abused it has been. I don't know if you have or have ever owned a business, but I doubt you'd tolerate the kind of "sharing" that people have been doing. People today justify so much bad behavior it is incredible.

And Google's motto used to be "Don't Be Evil". lol

Why not just limit to only watching on one tv at a time like they already due to people fairly paying for access to watch content at their own house? Nope, can't have that, than there will be no reason at all to pay for something you only watch one show for. No wonder they are no longer going to be reporting on new subscribers. Dead cat bounce from the password crackdown is over.

I guess next step would mantuary 6 month subscriptions so you can't binge watch one show than cancel the subscription?

Why not just limit to only watching on one tv at a time like they already due to people fairly paying for access to watch content at their own house? Nope, can't have that, than there will be no reason at all to pay for something you only watch one show for. No wonder they are no longer going to be reporting on new subscribers. Dead cat bounce from the password crackdown is over.

Huh?

Who cares about Netflix on a Feed about a mall? Moving on!

Who cares about Netflix on a Feed about a mall? Moving on!

No one, until Netflix announced a mall concept.

Why not just limit to only watching on one tv at a time like they already due to people fairly paying for access to watch content at their own house? ...

Actually, with Cox, you can have multiple TVs/devices at your house connected, all watching different things, I think (or out in the wild too, not just at your house). Not sure because we only have a single DVR/TV in our house. So that old-fashioned model isn't really workable in today's environment.

This is going to be one of those weird abandoned places kids watch a youtube video about in 20 years.

Absolutely. I think this will go over about as well as the NBA experience at Disney Springs, just with a much worse location.

No one, until Netflix announced a mall concept.

They are talking about their subscription and why they think a company is greedy or not greedy. They aren't talking about the concept store.