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ljbab728
04-15-2013, 11:00 PM
Didn't we hear something similar immediately following the Murrah Building bombing? Seems like we did.

I don't know what's worse, domestic or foreign terrorists. Either way, they are cowards of the worst kind.

That's exactly right. There was wild speculation about Middle Eastern suspects immediately after the Oklahoma City bombing. It's much too early to speculate about Boston. Anything is possible at the moment.

RadicalModerate
04-15-2013, 11:06 PM
Is the keyword here "cowards"? (i agree: cowardly act)
Remember the old saying: "A coward dies a thousand deaths, a brave [person] only one" . . . ?
Perhaps Mr. Obama needs to consider that idea in conjunction with his comment about "the full weight of 'justice'" coming down on the perp(s). I hope he does.

OKCisOK4me
04-15-2013, 11:06 PM
We all wonder and will surely know, soon. I dunno - tax day? Patriot Day? Boston? I'd rather it be foreign but have to wonder. A bit like missing the 911 connection at Benghasi.

First opportunity to chime in all day on this site. First off, gotta say my heart is with the people in Boston who were affected by this. Second, I don't think this is foreign. Had it been, we're looking at worse explosions and maybe them even being dirty bombs. I think this will be a case of domestic terrorism.

ljbab728
04-16-2013, 12:27 AM
Comments in OKC in regard to this event and the upcoming marathon here.

Oklahoma City Memorial Marathon security press conference | NewsOK Videos (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-memorial-marathon-security-press-conference/multimedia/video/2303433472001)

s00nr1
04-16-2013, 07:55 AM
First opportunity to chime in all day on this site. First off, gotta say my heart is with the people in Boston who were affected by this. Second, I don't think this is foreign. Had it been, we're looking at worse explosions and maybe them even being dirty bombs. I think this will be a case of domestic terrorism.

It's purely speculation at this point but I would have to agree. This whole thing, while terrifying and horrific, seems very amateurish. The incident I immediately thought of was the young man who tried to set off a bomb inside Oklahoma Memorial Stadium several years ago, was turned away by security, and then subsequently (accidentally) blew himself up outside of the stadium. Only time will tell at this point.

BBatesokc
04-16-2013, 09:45 AM
Another disheartening image(s) from the Boston explosions is the number of people who immediately began looting just minutes after the carnage began.

UnFrSaKn
04-16-2013, 09:50 AM
http://youtu.be/pWHHWB3Jr60

http://gma.yahoo.com/boston-marathon-couple-sees-carnage-losing-two-sons-072342765--abc-news-health.html

kelroy55
04-16-2013, 10:02 AM
Another disheartening image(s) from the Boston explosions is the number of people who immediately began looting just minutes after the carnage began.

I didn't see any reports of looting going on, that's sad.

BBatesokc
04-16-2013, 10:09 AM
I didn't see any reports of looting going on, that's sad.

Yeah, there are some pretty disgusting videos and images of people (and not looking like what most people would assume looters to look like) looting merchandise stands and a food cart in the area. Pretty pathetic.

I'm sure the media will ignore it because it doesn't fit their current script of how they want to mold reality.

On another note, this was yet another time that I broke out the Iphone police scanner app and listened live to first responders - amazing stuff. Very emotional.

MadMonk
04-16-2013, 10:43 AM
Listening in today, Boston PD is getting run ragged with with a ton of suspicious package calls.
Suffolk County Live Audio Feeds (http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/1225/web)

kelroy55
04-16-2013, 10:58 AM
Listening in today, Boston PD is getting run ragged with with a ton of suspicious package calls.
Suffolk County Live Audio Feeds (http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/1225/web)

I'm sure they are and it will continue for a while, and not just in Boston.

jn1780
04-16-2013, 03:10 PM
I can almost bet this will end up being a young male who with a mental disorder and hates the world.

PennyQuilts
04-16-2013, 05:20 PM
I can almost bet this will end up being a young male who with a mental disorder and hates the world.

The fact that we - reportedly - haven't yet received any acknowledgments by established groups tends to support that theory. We'll see. If there is any justice, the person who did it was one of the dead but they don't seem to be going with that story and I'd think they would if it had any legs. Oh god, I can't believe I just wrote that.

RadicalModerate
04-16-2013, 10:47 PM
I wonder if those investigating this outrageous abomination are considering the angle that this might not have any political connection at all. Perhaps this is the insane act of someone who has something against The Boston Marathon because he--and I'm sure that it is a he--feels as if he was somehow slighted or "done wrong" by some authority involved with the event and decided to ruin it for everyone . . . I wonder if they are looking into people who may have been arrested at or banned from some earlier running of this thing. The bombs, while--as one expert said--effective, seem to be a bit . . . crude and unsophisticated. Just a thought . . . Whatever the case, the punishment I mentioned, above, should still apply.

ljbab728
04-16-2013, 10:49 PM
I suspect that they are considering every possibility.

blangtang
04-17-2013, 12:44 AM
everyone wants to know who done it

here's my guess:

30% chance disgruntled ex-military/PTSD type
30% tax protester/gun law protester type
30% white supremacist/timothy McVeigh type
10% foreign terrorist group

its anybody's guess, I'd lean toward the miltary/PTSD type, I'm probably wrong, post your speculations. The interesting thing to me is that no one would expect a female to be behind this, just a thought.

stick47
04-17-2013, 06:38 AM
100% chance the administration will use this tragedy to take away more of our rights.

betts
04-17-2013, 07:10 AM
100% chance the administration will use this tragedy to take away more of our rights.

I think Bush already did that for the current administration. But if you are someone who cooks with a pressure cooker, I'd be worried that your right to buy one is at risk.

Personally, I'm a lot more worried about the injured and the families of those who died.

kelroy55
04-17-2013, 07:33 AM
100% chance the administration will use this tragedy to take away more of our rights.

You just can't help yourself using this sad event to bash Obama... JMHO but that's pretty damn pathetic.

kelroy55
04-17-2013, 07:34 AM
and speaking of pathetic.... I hope whoever does this gets a long jail term....

Beware bogus Boston Marathon charity websites - Apr. 17, 2013 (http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/17/pf/boston-marathon-charity/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

Martin
04-17-2013, 07:38 AM
shouldn't have to say this, but let's keep politics out of this thread. -M

kelroy55
04-17-2013, 07:52 AM
shouldn't have to say this, but let's keep politics out of this thread. -M

Agree

stick47
04-17-2013, 08:51 AM
Not being political but the odds are high that they already know which group is responsible for this. There could be several reasons the info hasn't come out. One of which is to help with the investigation. Seeing this tactic used more often these days so suspect they find good reason for withholding what they know.

kelroy55
04-17-2013, 11:02 AM
Do NOT jump to any conclusions but this is at least intriguing: 4chan may have found the bomber - Imgur (http://imgur.com/gallery/LvoCC5T)

Interesting

stick47
04-17-2013, 11:16 AM
No conclusion to jump to except that this isn't the guy. The straps on the backpack on his arm aren't being pulled tight enough to have a 8qt pressure cooker filled with ball bearings and nails it.

Martin
04-17-2013, 11:55 AM
The Boston Marathon Is in Boston, and Other Things The New York Post Got Right | Vanity Fair (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/04/the-boston-marathon-is-in-boston-and-other-things-the-new-york-post-got-right)

RadicalModerate
04-17-2013, 12:18 PM
100% chance the administration will use this tragedy to take away more of our rights.

just out of curiosity--and certainly not wanting to "get political" here--how in the world can one of your first reactions to a crime as horrible and senseless as this be so selfishly tunnel-visioned? i mean, really. how can that be?

isn't it precisely that sort of thinking that leads to s*it like this?
well . . . isn't it?

stick47
04-17-2013, 12:31 PM
one of your first reactions and how is it that anyone can assume what I posted was "one of my first reactions". IOW, when I want to be categorized, I'll get in touch with you.

RadicalModerate
04-17-2013, 12:54 PM
fair enough. (FE)

FritterGirl
04-17-2013, 12:55 PM
Per CNN and other news sources, an arrest is "imminent." No additional details other than suspect being taken in.

zookeeper
04-17-2013, 12:59 PM
Suspect is in custody. CNN.com - Breaking News, U.S., World, Weather, Entertainment & Video News (http://www.cnn.com)

blangtang
04-17-2013, 01:01 PM
Do NOT jump to any conclusions but this is at least intriguing: 4chan may have found the bomber - Imgur (http://imgur.com/gallery/LvoCC5T)

here's more "suspects"

4chan ThinkTank - Imgur (http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA)

FritterGirl
04-17-2013, 01:02 PM
Globe being a bit more conservative: The Boston Globe (http://www.bostonglobe.com/?refresh=true)

kelroy55
04-17-2013, 01:04 PM
The Boston Marathon Is in Boston, and Other Things The New York Post Got Right | Vanity Fair (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/04/the-boston-marathon-is-in-boston-and-other-things-the-new-york-post-got-right)

That's about all the Post got right with this one. Pretty shabby reporting, unless you're the National Enquirer.

zookeeper
04-17-2013, 01:08 PM
Globe being a bit more conservative: The Boston Globe (http://www.bostonglobe.com/?refresh=true)

Yes, the fog of war. John King on CNN really believes in his sources and he says U.S. Marshals have arrested a suspect. Let's hope he's right.

Interesting, several reports this suspect was identified clearly by video from Lord &Taylor department store, a true "caught in the act" slam dunk on this suspect.

stick47
04-17-2013, 01:14 PM
What I don't understand is if all the FBI had was a video of the perp, how the heck could they have ID'd him (or her) just like that? Or maybe this was someone who has a history?

kelroy55
04-17-2013, 01:16 PM
"Boston University graduate student Lingzu Lu has been identified by the school as the third person who died in Monday's bombings at the Boston Marathon."

My thoughts and prayers to her family and friends here and back in China.

zookeeper
04-17-2013, 01:24 PM
Anyone watching CNN? They went from the reporters who were actually telling us what was going on, and then the "star" anchors show up, Cuomo and Anderson Cooper just rehashing older stuff.

OKCTalker
04-17-2013, 01:27 PM
Anyone watching CNN? They went from the reporters who were actually telling us what was going on, and then the "star" anchors show up, Cuomo and Anderson Cooper just rehashing older stuff.

They ALL drive me crazy. The anchor introduces a remote reporter who sets up a piece he/she recorded earlier.

JUST READ US THE NEWS, PEOPLE!

kelroy55
04-17-2013, 01:28 PM
for internet users... CNN Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/cvptve/cvpstream1#/video/cvptve/cvpstream1)

zookeeper
04-17-2013, 01:30 PM
Now, other sources say nobody in custody. I don't know who to believe. It went from certainty from multiple and independent sources to "that's all wrong".

kelroy55
04-17-2013, 01:32 PM
May have images but don't know who it is yet

zookeeper
04-17-2013, 01:37 PM
May have images but don't know who it is yet

True. The thought also occurred to me that if they DID have somebody in custody it could have got out prematurely and risked apprehending accomplice, whatever. The worst thing would be to put picking up a second suspect in jeopardy. We'll see.

kelroy55
04-17-2013, 02:03 PM
Looks like a hospital near Boston (Brookline) is being evacuated and has a heavy police presence. Probably some nut called in a bomb threat.

all clear... some jackass called something in

metro
04-17-2013, 02:30 PM
You just can't help yourself using this sad event to bash Obama... JMHO but that's pretty damn pathetic.

I wonder what that says then about the current regime, using the tragedy to push an agenda then........

zookeeper
04-17-2013, 02:33 PM
I wonder what that says then about the current regime, using the tragedy to push an agenda then........
Bomb control? Enhanced background checks for pressure cookers? Seriously, what agenda is being pushed due to the tragedy in Boston?

kelroy55
04-17-2013, 02:36 PM
I wonder what that says then about the current regime, using the tragedy to push an agenda then........

What did mmm say about politics on this thread?

jerrywall
04-17-2013, 02:54 PM
Does anyone think this will affect participation/attendance in the Memorial Marathon this weekend?

kelroy55
04-17-2013, 03:13 PM
Looks like the Federal Courthouse in Boston has been cleared due to a bomb threat. Whoever is making those threats is going to be Bubba's bunk buddy for a long time.

RadicalModerate
04-18-2013, 11:32 AM
Just watched the Memorial Service for the victims of this abomination. All of the speakers were exceptionally moving. Regardless of my personal feelings about Barak Obama's politics, I have to say that his words were among the best. Especially his reference to the ["small, hateful, insignificant"] perpetrator(s) of this outrageous crime against common decency. Thank you, Mr. President.

I also thought the Archbishop's comments about the difference between "the crowd" and "the community" were especially relevent.

catch22
04-18-2013, 04:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80DXI932OE

CaptDave
04-19-2013, 08:39 AM
Chechen Terrorism (Russia, Chechnya, Separatist) - Council on Foreign Relations (http://www.cfr.org/terrorism/chechen-terrorism-russia-chechnya-separatist/p9181)

Some information about Chechnya - Chechens have been killed or captured in most war zones and Chechen terror groups have been responsible for some of the most heinous attacks on civilians over the last decade or so.

It is impossible to know whether it is nationalism, religion, or simple maladaptive behavior that motivated the Boston attack.

PennyQuilts
04-19-2013, 08:43 AM
They've made some comments and links on social media to suggest it is about Islam. Chechen terrorists tend to be radial islamists with an anti Russian bent. This wasn't about being anti Russian.

kelroy55
04-19-2013, 08:46 AM
They've made some comments and links on social media to suggest it is about Islam. Chechen terrorists tend to be radial islamists with an anti Russian bent. This wasn't about being anti Russian.

Nobody knows if it was radical Islamists either.

PennyQuilts
04-19-2013, 08:55 AM
Nobody knows if it was radical Islamists either.

Fantasy Island.

CaptDave
04-19-2013, 08:59 AM
They've made some comments and links on social media to suggest it is about Islam. Chechen terrorists tend to be radial islamists with an anti Russian bent. This wasn't about being anti Russian.

You missed the point - again - there is no way of knowing right now. Your assumption was easily predictable though. Could have just as easily been another McVeigh type wingnut.


Nobody knows if it was radical Islamists either.

It could be religiously motivated given the history of Chechnya and the actions by a not insignificant number of groups there.

Chechen terror groups are pretty nasty to deal with. I doubt the Boston attackers were part of some sort of sleeper cell as the conspiracy nuts will say. I think it is more likely they acted on their own out of some sort of sympathy for their homeland. But that is pure speculation as well. Maybe the FBI will have a chance to find out if they can arrest the younger kid, but I am not optimistic he will permit himself to be taken alive based on his actions.

BrettM2
04-19-2013, 09:02 AM
Fantasy Island.

How about we let law enforcement work this case before we jump to conclusions. Maybe it is radical Islam, but let's wait for credible information to be pieced together before we start prosecuting this case.

venture
04-19-2013, 09:04 AM
How about we let law enforcement work this case before we jump to conclusions. Maybe it is radical Islam, but let's wait for credible information to be pieced together before we start prosecuting this case.

Amen.

kelroy55
04-19-2013, 09:15 AM
How about we let law enforcement work this case before we jump to conclusions. Maybe it is radical Islam, but let's wait for credible information to be pieced together before we start prosecuting this case.

I agree. From what I've read the brothers moved to the US around 2000 which made them around 9 and 13 at the time and went to public schools.

Martin
04-19-2013, 09:30 AM
Shootings 4/19 MIT && Carjacking related to boston bombers - Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=200082141349599835237.0004daaf434ba5147dce 8&msa=0&iwloc=A)