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Bellaboo 10-21-2013, 01:53 PM FWIW, from Steve's chat last Friday -
BethanySooner - 10:56 a.m. Is it likely that the new GE research center will be located either just north or south of 10th street and east of I235?
Steve Lackmeyer - 10:57 a.m. That does look like a good spot....
HangryHippo 10-21-2013, 01:57 PM FWIW, from Steve's chat last Friday -
BethanySooner - 10:56 a.m. Is it likely that the new GE research center will be located either just north or south of 10th street and east of I235?
Steve Lackmeyer - 10:57 a.m. That does look like a good spot....
Thanks for that Bellaboo. I hope we get a public announcement soon.
Bellaboo 10-21-2013, 02:01 PM Thanks for that Bellaboo. I hope we get a public announcement soon.
Steve keeps saying that phenominal announcements are coming to the area (DD, Auto Alley, MidTown) soon, I think this could be one of them, which would be a catalyst. (just accross the Hwy)
Thanks for that Bellaboo. I hope we get a public announcement soon.
All 'Global Research' jobs in Oklahoma on the GE careers site have a zip code of 73102, as opposed to the 'Artificial Lift' jobs in 73135. Doesn't sound like the center is going to Norman folks.
shawnw 11-08-2013, 12:00 PM All 'Global Research' jobs in Oklahoma on the GE careers site have a zip code of 73102, as opposed to the 'Artificial Lift' jobs in 73135. Doesn't sound like the center is going to Norman folks.
Nice observation, and probably true (about not Norman), but 73102 (also my zip code, and that of the downtown post office, where they probably have a PO box) is basically the CBD... Reno to 10th, Shartel to the tracks. I just don't see a facility like this going into that space (I want to be wrong, e.g. 4th and Gaylord please). HSC, sure. Airpark, sure. CO-OP, sure. But CBD would surprise me a little, even though I'd like that to be the case.
PhiAlpha 11-08-2013, 12:05 PM Nice observation, and probably true (about not Norman), but 73102 (also my zip code, and that of the downtown post office, where they probably have a PO box) is basically the CBD... Reno to 10th, Shartel to the tracks. I just don't see a facility like this going into that space (I want to be wrong, e.g. 4th and Gaylord please). HSC, sure. Airpark, sure. CO-OP, sure. But CBD would surprise me a little, even though I'd like that to be the case.
I don't really get the impression this is the kind of facility that would be suitable for a tower on that site (or at all), but it would be cool.
I think OKC is a good compromise for this though, at least for David Boren. OKC gets the facility and it still ends up close to or basically on an extension of the OU campus. The City of Norman may feel differently but you can please everyone.
HOT ROD 11-08-2013, 12:05 PM Maybe part of the stage center tower? May explain the relative lack of height.
Bellaboo 11-08-2013, 12:24 PM I just searched and found the GE Research Center in New York. It consists of about 4 or 5 buildings between 1 and 5 floors high, spread out on about 10 - 15 acres.
I imagine this one will be similar in scope eventually, but maybe a little smaller starting out.
ou48A 11-08-2013, 12:27 PM Is there a chance GE would split its energy center and put most of the HR, clerical and management staff in OKC but put the actual research in Norman on OU's campus.... Just a thought or maybe more like a wish?
Just the facts 11-08-2013, 12:29 PM What are the chances an oil and gas research facility gets built in a walkable neighborhood or to urban standards? Despite what GE says in their commercials - they aren't a 'green' company, even if they do make 'green' products.
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OSUPeterson 11-08-2013, 03:05 PM Is there a chance GE would split its energy center and put most of the HR, clerical and management staff in OKC but put the actual research in Norman on OU's campus.... Just a thought or maybe more like a wish?
The research center would not have a lot of management and clerical positions. Mostly engineers, some management for those projects and probably only 1 HR person (which is normal for GE sites). Oil & gas clerical positions are functionalized. Most of what would deal with the OKC GRC would be based in Houston, maybe Italy where O&G is based.
I've not heard a final area (supposedly is chosen already), but I have heard they may lease somewhere downtown (or near downtown) until the GRC is completed.
Putting it near the OUHSC would not be because of anything healthcare related. While the other GRC's around the world do a variety of innovation jobs and research, this center will only focus on technologies and problems for its O&G industries. First time GE has done this.
Also, you would be surprised at what GE does in a lot of its businesses to be green. Economical material sourcing and processing is a big deal. Efficiencies are also a key area of development, which is a green thing when you think about it. Being "green" is not all about recycling and CFL light bulbs...
ou48A 11-08-2013, 03:45 PM The research center would not have a lot of management and clerical positions. Mostly engineers, some management for those projects and probably only 1 HR person (which is normal for GE sites). Oil & gas clerical positions are functionalized. Most of what would deal with the OKC GRC would be based in Houston, maybe Italy where O&G is based.
I've not heard a final area (supposedly is chosen already), but I have heard they may lease somewhere downtown (or near downtown) until the GRC is completed.
Putting it near the OUHSC would not be because of anything healthcare related. While the other GRC's around the world do a variety of innovation jobs and research, this center will only focus on technologies and problems for its O&G industries. First time GE has done this.
Also, you would be surprised at what GE does in a lot of its businesses to be green. Economical material sourcing and processing is a big deal. Efficiencies are also a key area of development, which is a green thing when you think about it. Being "green" is not all about recycling and CFL light bulbs...
Thanks... That's a very good post.
Particularly about the “green”.
GE is a very good, innovative and diverse company.
Although I'm guessing I would bet that the OUHSC location has something to do with OU's desire to gain AAU membership and the research dollars that are important in that goal?
soonerguru 11-08-2013, 09:40 PM All 'Global Research' jobs in Oklahoma on the GE careers site have a zip code of 73102, as opposed to the 'Artificial Lift' jobs in 73135. Doesn't sound like the center is going to Norman folks.
73102 is Downtown.
bchris02 11-09-2013, 09:27 PM 73102 is Downtown.
This may end up being the exciting news Steve has been teasing about for a long time. If they do go into the 73102 zip code, they are going to need to go vertical, be it in the Stage Center Tower or something else.
OSUPeterson 11-11-2013, 07:30 AM I really really want us to put something downtown, but I just don't feel like its going to happen. All the managers I talk to, who equally do not know the location yet either, all think its going to go down in Norman.
I know thats not based on anything, and we have all been surprised before, but everyone is pretty much assuming Norman at this point.
I will admit, it does seem strange for a giant research center to go in Downtown. It would be kinda hard to bring in equipment, drilling products, and other large subsea components in a downtown building. Also, I would assume they would have test wells drilled for some of the research, which leads me to assume Norman would be better for that unfortunately.
DoctorTaco 11-11-2013, 07:53 AM I really really want us to put something downtown, but I just don't feel like its going to happen. All the managers I talk to, who equally do not know the location yet either, all think its going to go down in Norman.
I know thats not based on anything, and we have all been surprised before, but everyone is pretty much assuming Norman at this point.
I will admit, it does seem strange for a giant research center to go in Downtown. It would be kinda hard to bring in equipment, drilling products, and other large subsea components in a downtown building. Also, I would assume they would have test wells drilled for some of the research, which leads me to assume Norman would be better for that unfortunately.
Thanks for the insight. Too many on this board have an image of these researchers just occupying normal office space similar to the biomedical researchers in the OUHSC/PHF. What they are forgetting is that this is to be an industrial engineering facility, which as you point out will require very large equipment and spaces. So a more suburban space like Norman just makes sense.
That being said, if any downtown in America has enough open space to accomodate an industrial research facility of this type, it has got to be Oklahoma City's.
Just the facts 11-11-2013, 08:35 AM As long as it isn't producing excessive noise or dangerous emissions there would be no problem mixing research facilities with other uses in the urban core.
While there are seven GE research centers around the world, the new Oklahoma innovation center will be the first dedicated to solely one industry. This will allow developers to accelerate their research, says Eric Gebhardt, vice president of engineering at GE Oil & Gas. “We want applied R&D,” he was quoted as saying in a post for GE Reports. “We want to come up with technology that we can put out in the field.”
The center will bring together industry experts, says Jeremy Van Dam, a senior mechanical engineer at the GE Global Research center in New York. It will connect innovative ideas with product expertise from other partners as well as their customers. “With this intersection of know-how, GE will be able to evaluate, build, and prove more ideas faster than either of the other groups could do on their own,” he says.
They will need to interact with industry leaders and companies that can actually apply their technology and ideas, especially since GE won't be drilling any wells.
So, being closer to the big O&G companies in town would certainly make sense.
On the other hand, it seems all their other research centers are somewhat removed from major cities.
FWIW, I'm still hearing OKC, near the Health Sciences Center.
Also remember, GE has said that they hope to be operational by the end of the year.
Obviously, they will have to set up temporary offices until a new facility can be built, but you've got to believe they will be announcing their location soon. They announced the hiring of their new general manager -- Oklahoma Energy Secretary Mike Ming -- back in May.
As I had previously posted, they have already selected the architecture and engineering firm.
The fact they are showing 73102 (central business district) on their job listings is a pretty strong indication they plan to lease space downtown until their facility is built, which would provide further evidence they plan to do so in OKC rather than Norman (these were all posted just a week ago):
http://jobs.gecareers.com/go/GE-Global-Research-Jobs/236081/?location=Oklahoma+City&utm_source=researchsite&utm_campaign=GECareers
Lazio85 11-20-2013, 03:26 PM Also remember, GE has said that they hope to be operational by the end of the year.
Obviously, they will have to set up temporary offices until a new facility can be built, but you've got to believe they will be announcing their location soon. They announced the hiring of their new general manager -- Oklahoma Energy Secretary Mike Ming -- back in May.
As I had previously posted, they have already selected the architecture and engineering firm.
The fact they are showing 73102 (central business district) on their job listings is a pretty strong indication they plan to lease space downtown until their facility is built, which would provide further evidence they plan to do so in OKC rather than Norman (these were all posted just a week ago):
GE Global Research Center Jobs (http://jobs.gecareers.com/go/GE-Global-Research-Jobs/236081/?location=Oklahoma+City&utm_source=researchsite&utm_campaign=GECareers)
Here is the 73102 zip code:
https://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=VLHX1wd2Cgu8wR6jwyh-km8JBWAkEzU4,GJV4AwYjFWvs_XxoFZwW3sWuqnGfdJV2_TaXs Kb7ozag2rpzpRMJTSB317Repv58K-clFb0DhoLwEoi-RtUCcNFaCwNQf0DqULVCSuWVXoybd8L4X4woP88W5bBx9YyTn_ 9roSSvRX9bDS7VtdqzxxwTVpSXebF0U1vCtsskz3w9zxGmA05V ssR5CAUmB99_7R409ZZt
HangryHippo 11-20-2013, 03:46 PM They're getting awfully close to the end of the year and it doesn't appear that much progress has been made.
There has been progress, just out of the public eyes.
HOT ROD 11-21-2013, 04:25 AM is it me or does it seem like there is a lot of business done behind closed doors/in secret in OKC? Things seem to be very hush hush (particularly if the OKC media has anything to do about it) until something is already breaking ground - and even then not much is gathered until the thing is actually built.
That is the beauty of OKC Talk, however, in that I can keep up with everything going on in OKC and rest assured that the folks here are quite reliable in their sources. No offense media but I think they really need to step up - perhaps moving downtown will definitely help, the tv stations should be next in considering opening studios BACK downtown where the news is.
LakeEffect 11-21-2013, 06:41 AM is it me or does it seem like there is a lot of business done behind closed doors/in secret in OKC? Things seem to be very hush hush (particularly if the OKC media has anything to do about it) until something is already breaking ground - and even then not much is gathered until the thing is actually built.
That is the beauty of OKC Talk, however, in that I can keep up with everything going on in OKC and rest assured that the folks here are quite reliable in their sources. No offense media but I think they really need to step up - perhaps moving downtown will definitely help, the tv stations should be next in considering opening studios BACK downtown where the news is.
It always makes me curious though - how much business needs to be out in the open in OKC? Why does the public need to know? If a subsidy is involved, yes, I can see a public interest, but why do we have to act like we have the right to know what a company is doing?
Teo9969 11-21-2013, 01:14 PM It always makes me curious though - how much business needs to be out in the open in OKC? Why does the public need to know? If a subsidy is involved, yes, I can see a public interest, but why do we have to act like we have the right to know what a company is doing?
Springhill Suites...
I don't worry too much about what may happen out of the public eye because in the end, before any tax dollars are spent or before anything is built, it has to go through various committees who are bound by open meeting laws.
So, if you pay attention (and those on this board always do!) you get plenty of notice before anything is actually settled.
If public funds/land/incentives are not involved and the construction is not subject to one of the urban design districts, the only way we'd know about it is when a building permit is filed. That is, unless they had previously sought to rezone a piece of property or apply for a Planned Unit Development... In that case, those would hit the public system first.
From Steve's chat today:
Steve Lackmeyer: I expect to hear an announcement about GE in December. And all of my sources say it will be in Oklahoma City.
catch22 11-29-2013, 01:22 PM Sounds good!
soonerguru 11-29-2013, 01:45 PM Intrigued by Steve's comments that the project is going to be a bigger deal than we realize.
NWOKCGuy 11-30-2013, 05:18 PM Intrigued by Steve's comments that the project is going to be a bigger deal than we realize.
Me too. Part of me wonders if its tied to the Rainey Williams tower, especially with them saying that is going to have a wide footprint and won't be particularly high. Aren't we expecting to have details from that in December?
G.Walker 11-30-2013, 05:33 PM I don't think it has anything to do with Stage Center Tower, maybe GE will be building a tower of its own? Remember, Steve said it will be something that we are not expecting, bigger than we realize. $110M would make for a decent 15-20 story tower.
bchris02 11-30-2013, 09:52 PM I don't think it has anything to do with Stage Center Tower, maybe GE will be building a tower of its own? Remember, Steve said it will be something that we are not expecting, bigger than we realize. $110M would make for a decent 15-20 story tower.
Steve seems confident on more than one new tower. Maybe it will happen. I am hoping the tower is at least 30 stories though, though I will definitely not complain if its 15 stories.
mugofbeer 12-01-2013, 12:19 AM Maybe I'm all wet but instead of looking for this type of facility in a high rise, as a research facility it seems they would need land and possibly multiple buildings. The thought crossed my mind----the old Crossroads Mall property? In OKC but in close distance to transportation, O&G firms and OU. It would also be keeping within the size facilities GE has in other cities.
GaryOKC6 12-01-2013, 06:22 AM They have an office downtown on Park Avenue.
GaryOKC6 12-01-2013, 06:58 AM Michael Ming, the GM for this facility is speaking at the Chamber's Friday forum at the Skirvin this Friday Dec 6th. Should be interesting.
G.Walker 12-01-2013, 07:51 AM Maybe I'm all wet but instead of looking for this type of facility in a high rise, as a research facility it seems they would need land and possibly multiple buildings. The thought crossed my mind----the old Crossroads Mall property? In OKC but in close distance to transportation, O&G firms and OU. It would also be keeping within the size facilities GE has in other cities.
Not exactly, the old Crossroad Mall property is under new ownership and being converted into a Hispanic themed shopping center call Plaza Mayor as we speak. I have researched other GE facilities in other cities, and most of them are Class A office buildings with with a couple building up to 5 stories, not a sprawling research campus as you are imagining.
Steve 12-01-2013, 02:26 PM GE is NOT building a high rise.
Rover 12-01-2013, 02:43 PM But we NEED another high rise....don't they know that? LOL.
Rover 12-01-2013, 02:46 PM I envision what they will do as being similar to a company I do business with in Columbus...Battelle Institute. It is a series of mid-rise office buildings with a fairly large lab/model works area. Certainly more horizontal than vertical.
soonerguru 12-01-2013, 02:47 PM A high rise would be a weird choice for a research facility anyway. Hopefully they will be building near the OU Research Park, just as most of us have been predicting for some time.
Steve 12-01-2013, 05:00 PM But we NEED another high rise....don't they know that? LOL.
I didn't say we won't get another high-rise. It just won't be GE.
G.Walker 12-01-2013, 05:46 PM If its not a high-rise, I wonder if it will be multiple mid-rises?
bchris02 12-01-2013, 05:49 PM If its not a high-rise, I wonder if it will be multiple mid-rises?
That would make sense. I can see a few buildings between 5 and 10 stories with a wide footprint being built. Too bad they can't buy out the dirty industry at Shields and I-40 and put it there.
G.Walker 12-01-2013, 05:56 PM GE Research Center in CA:
http://www.gesoftware.com/sites/default/files/field/image/featured-content/bg-3.jpg
warreng88 12-01-2013, 10:25 PM Again, I would bet money that it will be new construction built north of NE 4th and east of Lincoln. Would I win or lose that bet Steve or Pete?
HangryHippo 12-05-2013, 07:09 PM The rendering on NewsOK is gorgeous. This facility is going to be amazing!
GE to build research facility near research park | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/ge-to-build-research-facility-near-research-park/article/3911662)
dmoor82 12-05-2013, 07:17 PM Yes, finally!!! OKC is on a roll.
tillyato 12-05-2013, 07:17 PM Huge news for OKC, congrats to everyone who helped make this happen!
Location:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/ge2.jpg
The developers of the Metropolitan must be dancing a little jig.
This should also give a big push to finish up the northern part of Deep Deuce and more projects east of the tracks and west of I-235.
dmoor82 12-05-2013, 07:20 PM How tall and square footage?
Steve 12-05-2013, 07:22 PM Just wait until you get the rest of the story... this is a big deal.
tillyato 12-05-2013, 07:24 PM How tall and square footage?
No mention of how tall, but: "Construction on the 95,000-square-foot research center will begin in the spring, and the building is expected to open in the spring of 2015."
Looks to be 5-6 stories by the rendering.
tillyato 12-05-2013, 07:25 PM Just wait until you get the rest of the story... this is a big deal.
When should we expect to read the rest of the story. Maybe Sunday?
OKCisOK4me 12-05-2013, 07:28 PM Location:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/ge2.jpg
Cool. I've parked my car there before in that little dead end to snap pics of the skyline. Very good spot for them and great that this is going to be near downtown!
dmoor82 12-05-2013, 07:29 PM Steve, In your chat you hinted about big announcements for December, is this the biggest? Btw I appreciate your work.
I'm sure there will be prominent signage which will really be visible on that stretch of freeway; allows OKC to show off the facility and what it represents.
zookeeper 12-05-2013, 07:39 PM GREAT location!
G.Walker 12-05-2013, 07:39 PM Just wait until you get the rest of the story... this is a big deal.
Wait...there's more to this story?
LuccaBrasi 12-05-2013, 07:43 PM Nice location........what a terrific corporate addition to our landscape and yet another adrenaline image boost for OKC!
I heard this facility may bring far more jobs than initially announced. Maybe a phase 2 to the north? Maybe another company is coming who wishes to be near GE?
Sorry Prez Boren, you have a nice little research campus brewing, but this facility needed to be downtown.
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