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|project=Maywood Park Flats
|address=14 NE 3rd (http://goo.gl/maps/7LimW)
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|owner=Ron Bradshaw
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Information & Latest News
3/14/13: $1,000,000 building permit BLDC-2013-02076 (http://www.okc.gov/Access/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Permits&TabName=Permits&capID1=13BRE&capID2=00000&capID3=02076&agencyCode=OKC&IsToShowInspection=)
Links
Listing on Zillow (http://www.zillow.com/b/5-NE-3rd-St/35.470802,-97.51208_ll/)
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5 NE 3rd? I would have thought the address would be Oklahoma Ave. Are you sure where this is going? I also would have expected it to be bigger.

I think you're right. It looks like these are the flats that were talked about in the Brownstones thread. From that picture, it looks like those flats would fit on the far west side of the southern most Brownstones. Sorry about that!

5 NE 3rd? I would have thought the address would be Oklahoma Ave. Are you sure where this is going? I also would have expected it to be bigger.

Those are the renderings for Ron Bradshaw's for sale apartments on 3rd St. I've seen the renderings for McKown's project and it looks very much like LEVEL, but with 2 levels of parking on the first floors, built into the hill.

I think you're right. It looks like these are the flats that were talked about in the Brownstones thread. From that picture, it looks like those flats would fit on the far west side of the southern most Brownstones. Sorry about that!

I posted just after you. Those flats are being built on the north and south sides of 3rd St., on the west side. I believe at least several, if not more, have sold already.

Thanks for the clarification betts!

Well this is even better then. What was thought to be 1 project is actually 2 different ones. That is like eating a hot fudge sundae and finding $5 at the bottom of the bowl.

Here are the plans that I've seen for this project. Floor plans and pricing info are below32473248 or on zillow.com.

5 NE 3rd St # 302 Oklahoma City OK - New Home for Sale - MLS #509449 - Realtor.com® (http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5-Ne-3rd-St-302_Oklahoma-City_OK_73104_M80653-16397)

According to the listing this is Maywood Park Flats...

I posted just after you. Those flats are being built on the north and south sides of 3rd St., on the west side. I believe at least several, if not more, have sold already.

No kidding - they've sold already and there isn't so much as a website promoting them? I live in 2nd St and I haven't heard a peep about these flats. Looking at the floorplans they are far superior to the 2bd-2ba units here though. Makes me wish I was living in one now!

Yesterday I saw about 8 people standing out in the open space where one of them is going to be built with what looked liked a real estate agent. I have no idea if they were all looking as a group or what was going on. But, there has been a lot of activity around the Brownstones lately. Another Brownstone sold last week, and reportedly one of the 3 remaining unfinished Brownstones was to be under contract this week. There are people looking every day, so I'm not surprised there's been a lot of activity on smaller flats of comparable quality.

The flats offered a 3 bedroom unit, which we were happy to finally see downtown. The day it listed, we drove there to check out the view, etc. Probably would have taken it a step further but we saw the floor plans and realized the 3rd bedroom was on the ground floor with its own street entrance, which didn't seem safe for one of the kids. Nevertheless, these units will be a great addition.

Deep Deuce

$1,000,000 permit today BLDC-2013-02076 for 4 story, 6 unit building at 14 NE 3.

http://okc.gov/Access/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Permits&TabName=Permits&capID1=13BRE&capID2=00000&capID3=02076&agencyCode=OKC&IsToShowInspection=

I believe 14 is on the south side of NE 3.

That's correct. 14 is south side. They've done dirt samples on the north side too and I believe it will be under construction soon as well.

Even address numbers are always south & east sides of the street, odd numbers north & west.

It looks as if they have started the first set of flats on the southwest side of 3rd St.

So I'm still confused on what Bradshaw's plans (what I'm sure are fluid) are for the rest of these lots and the rest of the lots to the north.

I was under the impression he was going to develop the whole strip between the Brownstones and Maywood Apts. at the same time and that those would be flats.

It looks like now he's doing only the one building on the same strip as the Brownstones (North of 3rd) and that it will sit on the far, which will leave a huge hole between the flats and the brownstones (and, I Imagine, make future construction more difficult, though certainly not unreasonable). Is the goal to figure out which will sell quicker be more profitable between more Brownstones or more Flats?

The plans to develop the lots between the brownstones and the Maywood Apartments are still fairly fluid, but there are some interesting ideas being floated. The lot to the west of the last brownstone on the north side of 3rd St is going to be an addition to the adjacent brownstone and they plan to start construction fairly soon. Ron does plan to put flats on the northwest corner as well. He has to have the west alleys to accommodate garage openings. It will leave two lots between the buildings on the north side of 3rd St. but with the rest of the street finished, those lots will likely be quite desirable. I know they've had significant interest in some of the lots.

So I'm still confused on what Bradshaw's plans (what I'm sure are fluid) are for the rest of these lots and the rest of the lots to the north.

I was under the impression he was going to develop the whole strip between the Brownstones and Maywood Apts. at the same time and that those would be flats.

It looks like now he's doing only the one building on the same strip as the Brownstones (North of 3rd) and that it will sit on the far, which will leave a huge hole between the flats and the brownstones (and, I Imagine, make future construction more difficult, though certainly not unreasonable). Is the goal to figure out which will sell quicker be more profitable between more Brownstones or more Flats?

Bradshaw is not the only one involved and most of the lots north of the current Brownstones on 3rd are not his.

What's the latest on this project?

Good question. Now I'm hearing maybe they'll just build brownstones on 3rd St. and put flats between the brownstones on the north and the Maywood Apts. They've sold 2 more brownstones in the last couple of weeks so maybe they think they can sell them. I'm not on the architectural committee and haven't seen one of the members recently to confirm so take it as a rumor.

Wow, that would be something. I am glad to hear about the recent sales.

I noticed today that ICF frames are going up for the addition to the existing west-most Brownstone on the north side of 3rd.

Anyway, I feel for the people who pre-bought Flats. They didn't quite hit the completion date of this month...

I noticed what looked like dirt work yesterday. Had the land clearing been done awhile ago or is construction getting ready to begin on these?

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2859/11802374455_7ff3160431_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77483833@N04/11802374455/)
East Downtown OKC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77483833@N04/11802374455/) by lazio85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/77483833@N04/), on Flickr

I think all pre sale buyers of these are backed out. This project seems dead in water.

Perhaps some of the current Brownstone owners have something to do with this.

I'm not on the architectural committee. We had some issues with number of parking spaces per unit and last I heard they were reworking the plans. But I've heard nothing else.

Yup, I have heard parking issue was a worry by current Brownstone holders in that the flats would only have single garages for each flat.

Can someone please explain to me why streetside parking in residential areas is so frowned upon here? I just don't get it. People park in front of their homes in every dense city out there, but here the densest part of downtown, we have 2 hour limit parking signs everywhere.

Yup, I have heard parking issue was a worry by current Brownstone holders in that the flats would only have single garages for each flat.

Can someone please explain to me why streetside parking in residential areas is so frowned upon here? I just don't get it. People park in front of their homes in every dense city out there, but here the densest part of downtown, we have 2 hour limit parking signs everywhere.

Time limits and permit parking in residential areas of dense cities is very common. Los Angeles even does this. This is just to ensure that residents and their guests have available parking and, in some cases, to keep non-residents from parking there for an extended period of time. I would not be surprised to see some of our neighborhoods start doing this, especially in the denser areas that have more owner-occupied housing. It will probably make sense to do this on the streets above and below 23rd as well as it fills up with retail.

I think the brownstone residents are just trying to preserve the original vision for the neighborhood that they invested in as much as they can. It's an interesting situation because the developers of the brownstones wrote the building restrictions for the area and are now trying to undo that after agreeing to those restrictions with the buyers when they sold them their homes. There's a bit of a bait and switch going on.

Short term parking usually ends at 6pm or 10pm. Most urban neighborhoods in most big cities rely on overnight street parking, and often there is a system for making sure residents can get a parking permit.

Short term parking usually ends at 6pm or 10pm. Most urban neighborhoods in most big cities rely on overnight street parking, and often there is a system for making sure residents can get a parking permit.

Yes. Exactly.

I've been working on a permit system but haven't gotten anywhere so far. This is a new concept for OKC apparently.

Disappointing that this project has been put on hold. Hopefully the parking issues will get worked out because I'm ready to buy.