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jdross1982
10-03-2023, 08:11 AM
Too bad we can’t take some of this budget surplus the state says they have a move some of these big projects up to the near term rather than the end of the 8 year plan. Lots of big projects on that plan that will be great improvements when complete.

1000% and would actually save money doing it now vs 8 years from now.

HangryHippo
10-03-2023, 11:29 AM
1000% and would actually save money doing it now vs 8 years from now.
Was the I-40/44 interchange moved up or changed?

chssooner
10-03-2023, 11:38 AM
Too bad we can’t take some of this budget surplus the state says they have a move some of these big projects up to the near term rather than the end of the 8 year plan. Lots of big projects on that plan that will be great improvements when complete.

With the governor wanting to end personal income tax (I think it will happen sooner rather than later), moving anything out of surplus will be catastrophic.

Elrenogolf
10-03-2023, 07:34 PM
I don’t see anything about resurfacing I-35 between 2nd St. in Edmond and I-44 but maybe I am missing it.

DowntownMan
10-04-2023, 06:45 AM
I don’t see anything about resurfacing I-35 between 2nd St. in Edmond and I-44 but maybe I am missing it.

It is listed for 2030 currently

Also along 35 in that area I’m seeing that the tollway to 35 exit at 122 is scheduled for 2026
2nd street north to Logan county in 2029
Ft smith jct to 35/44 in 2031

Swalell1960
10-05-2023, 06:53 AM
What is the 2.5 BNSF rail rehab piece?

bombermwc
10-05-2023, 07:48 AM
With the governor wanting to end personal income tax (I think it will happen sooner rather than later), moving anything out of surplus will be catastrophic.

He says that, but the legislature has been clear that the aren't just going to give up revenue. The state would collapse. The governor might be able to say he's won and gotten rid of this tax or another tax, but it will just get replaced by another income method. Property Tax, Sales Tax, etc. It's all gonna come from somewhere because sh*t isn't free.

mugofbeer
10-06-2023, 12:01 AM
He says that, but the legislature has been clear that the aren't just going to give up revenue. The state would collapse. The governor might be able to say he's won and gotten rid of this tax or another tax, but it will just get replaced by another income method. Property Tax, Sales Tax, etc. It's all gonna come from somewhere because sh*t isn't free.

Oh, to a lot of people's ways of thinking, it is.

Plutonic Panda
12-29-2023, 02:28 PM
Enid is getting an MPO: https://oklahoma.gov/odot/citizen/newsroom/2023/city-of-enid--oklahoma-department-of-transportation-partner-for-.html

macfoucin
02-28-2024, 03:01 PM
https://okcfox.com/news/local/oklahomas-attorney-general-issues-formal-opinions-on-ota-and-odot-positions-secretary-of-transportation-tim-gatz-executive-director-odot-ota-oklahoma-turnpike-authority-oklahoma-department-of-transportation-oklahoma-supreme-court-hb-2263#

Attorney General Gentner Drummond released two separate opinions Tuesday afternoon that relate to the Oklahoma Turn Pike Authority (OTA) and the Oklahoma Department of Transportation (ODOT).

One of the opinions focused on Secretary of Transportation Tim Gatz also serving as the Executive Director of ODOT and Executive Director of OTA.

The opinion states that it violates the state Constitution which prohibits a person from holding all three positions at the same time.

According to the opinion, the Oklahoma Supreme Court defines a public office as:

A position that was created or authorized by law
The law imposes certain duties for the position-holder
The duties "exercise some portion of sovereign power"
Drummond's formal opinion noted that exceptions have been made before, but none of them apply to the three positions Gatz is involved in.

The opinion also explained that an office official who takes up a second office then vacates the first one

jn1780
02-28-2024, 04:07 PM
^ So two more jobs were created? Three people probably cost more than one guy I imagine.

Rover
02-29-2024, 07:54 AM
^ So two more jobs were created? Three people probably cost more than one guy I imagine.
Jobs weren’t created. It’s just who occupies each position and who appoints them. It is about Stitt wanting complete control over everything whether it is constitutional or not.

BoulderSooner
02-29-2024, 08:20 AM
Jobs weren’t created. It’s just who occupies each position and who appoints them. It is about Stitt wanting complete control over everything whether it is constitutional or not.

he is not wrong though about if it is 3 people it is 3 pay checks .. (if Gatz is getting triple paid by the state I and wrong and will say so .)

jn1780
02-29-2024, 09:34 AM
he is not wrong though about if it is 3 people it is 3 pay checks .. (if Gatz is getting triple paid by the state I and wrong and will say so .)

Maybe he was being paid some ridiculous amount, but they probably set the salary structure for his unique situation.

Dob Hooligan
02-29-2024, 11:35 AM
I think Gatz took on 2 more titles as they opened up over the last couple years. I'm sure the total salary was kept in each department and Gatz got a bump in pay that was a portion of that salary for his new "responsibilities", and the rest was spread around or held in their account for future use.

TheTravellers
02-29-2024, 12:05 PM
I think Gatz took on 2 more titles as they opened up over the last couple years. I'm sure the total salary was kept in each department and Gatz got a bump in pay that was a portion of that salary for his new "responsibilities", and the rest was spread around or held in their account for future use.

With this administration, I wouldn't be surprised if all 3 paychecks were kept the same amount and he took home the full amount of all 3 of them. But I haven't kept up with it much, so I'm not sure. One story says his salary was $245,000/year after he was given a $60,000 raise by the OK Transportation Department. No idea if that was a combo or just from one position, though, reporting didn't say.

MagzOK
02-29-2024, 06:26 PM
It is about Stitt wanting complete control over everything whether it is constitutional or not.

You don't know what you're talking about. it's not about Stitt wanting control. This has been precedent since before even Brad Henry, who appointed Phil Tomlinson Secretary of Transportation and OTA director. Herschel Crow was Secretary of Transportation and Commission chairman. Gary Ridley was all three, and before him it was Neal McCaleb.

therhett17
03-01-2024, 08:06 AM
Can we get the name of this thread changed to ODOT

BoulderSooner
03-01-2024, 10:50 AM
With this administration, I wouldn't be surprised if all 3 paychecks were kept the same amount and he took home the full amount of all 3 of them. But I haven't kept up with it much, so I'm not sure. One story says his salary was $245,000/year after he was given a $60,000 raise by the OK Transportation Department. No idea if that was a combo or just from one position, though, reporting didn't say.

this answers that question


Brenda Perry Clark, spokesperson for the Oklahoma Department of Transportation, said Gatz was paid $245,000 as director of both the Transportation Department and the turnpike authority. Gatz was not paid a salary as transportation secretary. Perry Clark said the salary cost was shared 50/50 between the turnpike authority and the state Transportation Department, along with benefits and travel. The only caveat, she said, was if travel was specific to one agency, that was paid by that agency in full.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lt-gov-second-to-resign-from-cabinet-over-ag-opinion-stitt-warns-of-shockwaves-through-government/ar-BB1japFM?cvid=3720b8fb160b4fe6b4b2cca9576ddfd7&ocid=winp2fptaskbarent&ei=15&sc=shoreline

this opinion by the AG will cost the state several million dollars a year

The
03-01-2024, 11:50 AM
this answers that question



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lt-gov-second-to-resign-from-cabinet-over-ag-opinion-stitt-warns-of-shockwaves-through-government/ar-BB1japFM?cvid=3720b8fb160b4fe6b4b2cca9576ddfd7&ocid=winp2fptaskbarent&ei=15&sc=shoreline

this opinion by the AG will cost the state several million dollars a year

Then update the state constitution and take your whining elsewhere.

BoulderSooner
03-01-2024, 12:04 PM
Then update the state constitution and take your whining elsewhere.

just because the AG issues an opinion doesn't mean he is correct ( also doesn't mean he is incorrect) ..

the point is this is not something Stitt came up with or just decided to do it has been done this way for decades ..

jn1780
03-01-2024, 01:14 PM
It maybe the right decision in the long run, but it will cost the state more money in the short run.

At some point ODOT and OTA may just get merged together. I don't know how difficult that would be from a legislative standpoint.

Rover
03-01-2024, 03:22 PM
this answers that question



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lt-gov-second-to-resign-from-cabinet-over-ag-opinion-stitt-warns-of-shockwaves-through-government/ar-BB1japFM?cvid=3720b8fb160b4fe6b4b2cca9576ddfd7&ocid=winp2fptaskbarent&ei=15&sc=shoreline

this opinion by the AG will cost the state several million dollars a year

Like banning certain banks from operating for the state and costing taxpayers millions?

Jersey Boss
03-03-2024, 06:35 PM
this answers that question



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lt-gov-second-to-resign-from-cabinet-over-ag-opinion-stitt-warns-of-shockwaves-through-government/ar-BB1japFM?cvid=3720b8fb160b4fe6b4b2cca9576ddfd7&ocid=winp2fptaskbarent&ei=15&sc=shoreline

this opinion by the AG will cost the state several million dollars a year

That is a very bold statement to make with nothing to support your opinion. Could you explain the multi-million dollar a year figure you claimed?

BoulderSooner
03-04-2024, 08:33 AM
this answers that question



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lt-gov-second-to-resign-from-cabinet-over-ag-opinion-stitt-warns-of-shockwaves-through-government/ar-BB1japFM?cvid=3720b8fb160b4fe6b4b2cca9576ddfd7&ocid=winp2fptaskbarent&ei=15&sc=shoreline

this opinion by the AG will cost the state several million dollars a year

That is a very bold statement to make with nothing to support your opinion. Could you explain the multi-million dollar a year figure you claimed?

just with the odot example it will cost the state around 400k plus state benifits .. (so over 500k cost to the state) .. and that is for 2 exec level jobs ...

but this ag opinion is not limited to odot/turnpike/transportation sec .. it will run the gambit of government .. as the article says a new cabinet level apt for workforce development (as the lt gov used to run) a new exec for ag dept .. and on and on ..

Plutonic Panda
08-13-2024, 04:30 PM
God ODOT redesigned their website to match the state's new branding and it sucks ass. They haven't posted their monthly commission meeting summary which is where I went to find out what projects were let for bid since they don't seem to follow their eight year plan that well. Does anyone know where on the new website where to go to see what projects were let for bid each month?

VeggieMeat
08-13-2024, 06:19 PM
God ODOT redesigned their website to match the state's new branding and it sucks ass. They haven't posted their monthly commission meeting summary which is where I went to find out what projects were let for bid since they don't seem to follow their eight year plan that well. Does anyone know where on the new website where to go to see what projects were let for bid each month?

Would it be https://oklahoma.gov/odot/business-center/contracts-and-proposals.html?

Plutonic Panda
08-13-2024, 06:33 PM
Yes, thank you

DowntownMan
08-16-2024, 11:44 AM
What is the rule on when the state will tow cars left on side of road. ive been noticing same cars on side of road sometimes dangerously close to the lane of traffic that are sitting there for over a week.
Example black impala in middle of 235 near 23rd and then a black sedan on the 235 to 44east ramp.

I thought the state would tow it after 24 or 48 hours but that doesn’t seem to be the case