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shawnw 02-22-2013, 02:37 AM I'm just glad it isn't a parking garage..the end. In OKC, [yes this is going to offend some] my expectations aren't really high. This looks like a good, mixed-use box to put on a land that wont be used as surface parking for at least another 30-50 years now. There is victory in Jesus! Or Sam, or whatever the guy's name is who is going to build a building on that lot.
I'm shocked about no comments from you regarding the coffee shop in the retail space!
dcsooner 02-22-2013, 05:52 AM So everyone is excited about the fake stucco, huh? Guess there has been a change of heart or lowering of expectations.
Remember where this development is, OKC, a place that heretofore has not seen innovative, unique, iconic (outside of Devon) building construction. Just be glad investors are starting to build on all the vacant, overgrown lots and redevelop all the empty buildings across DT giving the city core a semblance of urbanism.........
Just the facts 02-22-2013, 07:30 AM While I agree with Rover that a stone finish would have been preferred, my first priority is that it is built to urban standards and this proposal knocked it out of the park in those criteria; structured parking, ground floor retail, built to sidewalk, inner courtyard, scaled to fit surrounding buildings, and balconies overlooking the street. I don't know how it could have gotten much better from a land-use and site plan perspective, and as teo9969 said, if in 10 years they want to add a stone finish I am sure it is easy to add, Lord knows concrete panels on the most ornate buildings in OKC didn't seem to be hard to do.
I hope the Staybridge Inn people are paying attention.
HangryHippo 02-22-2013, 09:39 AM Not just you! I thought the EXACT same thing. A boring looking building in all actuality, I can't believe so many of you love this so much.
Ha, okay then. Glad I wasn't the only one, regardless of what my username might imply.
Personally, I'm not a big fan of Level beyond the first, uh, level. I think this is an improvement on it, though. I was afraid it was going to be exactly the same. In the end, the overall mix of the whole neighborhood is pretty nice. Block 42, the Lofts, and the brownstones bring a nice feel to it. Level and Deep Deuce Apartments are underwhelming at face value, but have been developed more consistent with urban development than we usually see, in that they include services and retail. The Aloft should bring in a touch of vibrancy as well that will be cool to see in what could become our first true mixed use neighborhood.
IMO, the only truly cringe worthy part of DD is The Hill, which just seems so out of place with what the rest of the neighborhood is doing. It just feels like a gated retirement community, without the gate. Nothing about it really adds to the developing urban feel of the area. But apparently it works to attract the not-really-looking-for-urban but want-to-live-downtown buyer that we seem to have plenty of. I definitely don't get the premium those things bring, but I guess that's just a difference in taste.
So, while I may not totally like every element of form of Level West, I would give it 3 stars for function if it does in fact bring in some retail/services with it.
And if more brownstones do get built, there'll be a nice mix of owner occupied and rental properties, which should help the longevity of the area.
mcca7596 02-22-2013, 03:12 PM Steve, in your story you said that McKown had bought more lots to the EAST of LEVEL at 3rd and Oklahoma, did you mean 3rd and Walnut?
Steve 02-22-2013, 03:41 PM Level is between NE 3 and NE 2 and between Oklahoma and Walnut. I was using 3rd and Oklahoma as the location for Level. The property bought to the east of that is, indeed, 3rd and Walnut
mcca7596 02-22-2013, 03:44 PM Level is between NE 3 and NE 2 and between Oklahoma and Walnut. I was using 3rd and Oklahoma as the location for Level. The property bought to the east of that is, indeed, 3rd and Walnut
Thank you.
betts 02-22-2013, 03:58 PM It would be nice to see something other than just another cookie cutter apartment building there. Maybe something like a Block 42 or a highrise? I'd like to see something other than just 4 story rental apartment buildings that would add more interest to the neighborhood.
catch22 02-22-2013, 09:36 PM It would be nice to see something other than just another cookie cutter apartment building there. Maybe something like a Block 42 or a highrise? I'd like to see something other than just 4 story rental apartment buildings that would add more interest to the neighborhood.
I agree. Although the added density to the urban setting is excellent and the influx of residents is promising for future downtown retail development, I think we are beginning to have enough interest for new construction that we can afford to raise our standards some more.
It's one thing to be relaxed with standards when development is slow, but at the rapid pace downtown development is occurring, I think we need to take a serious look at raising standards.
Mississippi Blues 02-22-2013, 11:46 PM I agree. Although the added density to the urban setting is excellent and the influx of residents is promising for future downtown retail development, I think we are beginning to have enough interest for new construction that we can afford to raise our standards some more.
It's one thing to be relaxed with standards when development is slow, but at the rapid pace downtown development is occurring, I think we need to take a serious look at raising standards.
Agree 500%.
I'm hearing this project may break ground as soon as next month.
They seem to have all the financing in place and are anxious to get going.
BoulderSooner 03-07-2013, 02:46 PM I'm hearing this project may break ground as soon as next month.
They seem to have all the financing in place and are anxious to get going.
good news ... i look forward to this being finished and LEVEL East (or whatever they call it) moving forward
no1cub17 03-13-2013, 09:15 AM good news ... i look forward to this being finished and LEVEL East (or whatever they call it) moving forward
Not to get off topic (which means I'm getting off topic :)) but is there a dedicated thread for the Maywood Park Flats? There's very spotty info online about them - wondering because if there are any units still available I might be interested...
betts 03-13-2013, 09:23 AM Not to get off topic (which means I'm getting off topic :)) but is there a dedicated thread for the Maywood Park Flats? There's very spotty info online about them - wondering because if there are any units still available I might be interested...
I think there are still units available since they're starting with two buildings. I believe they also plan to put similar flats on the corners of the currently open land to the north of both the east and west strip of Brownstones. They have to be on the corners for access to the garages, but there are 6 corners available to develop. We were told there will be a mews-like street between the Maywood Apartments and the northern line of flats/brownstone development that will be designed as more of a walking street. I think there might be plans for parallel parking on one side, at most.
no1cub17 03-13-2013, 10:24 AM I think there are still units available since they're starting with two buildings. I believe they also plan to put similar flats on the corners of the currently open land to the north of both the east and west strip of Brownstones. They have to be on the corners for access to the garages, but there are 6 corners available to develop. We were told there will be a mews-like street between the Maywood Apartments and the northern line of flats/brownstone development that will be designed as more of a walking street. I think there might be plans for parallel parking on one side, at most.
Cool - doesn't seem to be an official website or anything regarding that development - who do you suggest I contact for more official info? TIA!
I do need to create a new thread for this project as it's clearly going forward.
adaniel 03-13-2013, 10:45 AM On zillow quite a few of these units are shown as pending sales. Betts, does there seem to be a lot of interest in these? I noticed a few were actually reasonably priced (about 200K).
betts 03-13-2013, 11:22 AM On zillow quite a few of these units are shown as pending sales. Betts, does there seem to be a lot of interest in these? I noticed a few were actually reasonably priced (about 200K).
I see real estate agents walking around out there with people frequently. I know some of them have definitely sold and I believe they're going to start building them within the next month. Keller Williams has Ron Bradshaw's Brownstones listed, so I bet they're selling the Flats as well.
Here is what I've heard about the Maywood Flats:
Bradshaw intends to break ground on the first of three buildings next month; each building will have six units each with it's own garage.
At least 6 units are pre sold and he will probably build two of the three buildings relatively quickly, with a third being added as demand/sales dictate.
Anonymous. 03-13-2013, 12:31 PM I see several flats [one 2-bedroom and two 1-bedroom] for sale online. I am not sure if these are future flats or pre existing. But the site lists the addresses of the 3 units listed as the building (future building?) on 16 NE 3rd st.
$206K for the 1 bedrooms. ~920 sq ft.
$260K for the 2. ~ 1200 sq ft.
I think these posts can be moved to the brownstone thread, but I wanted to post this info here for the posters above.
adaniel 03-13-2013, 03:13 PM If their 1-BR came with an extra half bath or powder room, I'd be at Mr. Bradshaw's office with my deposit.
betts 03-13-2013, 03:41 PM If their 1-BR came with an extra half bath or powder room, I'd be at Mr. Bradshaw's office with my deposit. If you see a place on the floor plan you could fit it in, I'm sure they would customize the space for you. Since they're not rentals, you likely have a fair amount of ability to change things as construction ensues.
OKCisOK4me 03-13-2013, 05:29 PM Are the Maywood Flats and McKown Deep Deuce Apartments the same thing? And if not, where are the Maywood Flats if you haven't already added them to the Project Map? Thanks!
Different projects; need to start a new thread and map them.
The Flats are directly adjacent to the Brownstones.
OKCisOK4me 03-13-2013, 05:51 PM Oh ok...north or south of 3rd St. and west of east of Oklahoma? Just trying to figure out which plot of grass we need to look at on a satellite image. You da man Pete!
Some detailed plans for Level West (code name) shown below.
First is the underground parking, next is ground level parking, third is first residential floor and fourth is typical residential floor.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/levelwestsub.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/levelwest0.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/levelwest1.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/levelwest2.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/levelwest3.jpg
$9,000,000 building permit today for this project.
They aren't messing around... Should be underway soon.
Mississippi Blues 03-15-2013, 10:16 AM Sweet!
According to a recent article in okcBIZ, this project will be known as Mosaic.
Also said they hope to break ground as soon as May.
Anonymous. 04-04-2013, 09:54 AM Mosiac? Or MosAIc?
This project could not be more confusing on a name.
Anonymous. 04-04-2013, 10:54 AM What is that? "Moze-E-Ack"???
It's Mosaic -- I corrected the spelling.
Spartan 04-05-2013, 02:01 PM I like Moasic!
From OKC.biz:
At Mosaic, McKown received approval for the design March 21 by the Downtown Design Review Committee, for the four-story, 97-unit development. McKown said the budget is $12.5 million, and he plans to seek tax credits and TIF dollars for the project.
With many units Downtown starting at about $900 per month, McKown said he has made an effort at Level to keep the minimum costs slightly below market. His units at Level range from $885-$1,400 per month. He plans to offer comparable pricing at Mosaic.
“We want to keep our units as affordable as possible,” he said.
The project will be similar in appearance to Level, with stucco and concrete on the exterior dotted with sand and ground mica chips that will glint in the sunlight. Once the project breaks ground, McKown said it will take about 14 months to build.
“If all the pieces come together, we would like to break ground in May,” he said.
HangryHippo 06-07-2013, 10:52 AM May came and went and no groundbreaking, so I guess all the pieces didn't come together. Anyone know the latest on this project?
catch22 07-15-2013, 08:27 AM McKown said they were planning on breaking ground shortly after July 4.
Any activity yet?
betts 07-15-2013, 08:57 AM There's a construction trailer on First St, adjacent to the pocket park. That's all I've seen.
HangryHippo 07-15-2013, 10:01 AM There's a construction trailer on First St, adjacent to the pocket park. That's all I've seen.
I think Richard said in Steve's chat that the trailer would be delivered but they still had a lot of work to do before they really ramp things up or something along those lines.
Spartan 07-15-2013, 03:58 PM Oh it is still a go. I'm not sure on the exact timeline for groundbreaking but I've not heard anything that indicates the project isn't still moving forward. I do know this, Richard (and Co.) are working on several things at once right now. I'd expect some administrative delays on his projects a little going forward. He's trying to accomplish a lot.
...by which you mean prelim and due diligence for the LEVEL East development, right?
Permit today for a construction trailer for Mosaic.
Looks like they are about ready to break ground.
JoninATX 07-23-2013, 10:15 AM That part of town will become very dense in the near future.
OKCisOK4me 07-23-2013, 04:36 PM Permit today for a construction trailer for Mosaic.
Looks like they are about ready to break ground.
Where are they going to start putting all these construction trailers when all these empty lots are filled in? In the street like Homewood Suites?
Spartan 07-23-2013, 05:36 PM Precisely.
Praedura 07-23-2013, 11:38 PM That part of town will become very dense in the near future.
Hey come on now... that's kinda harsh... I'm sure they're not all dummies. There are prolly some bright folks in there too.
:Smiley112
Anonymous. 07-24-2013, 09:59 AM Construction fence is up and there was a bulldozer unloaded yesterday.
OklahomaNick 07-25-2013, 03:30 PM They started breaking ground, and have most of the site cleared of the grass.
Here we go!
Wow, there is a lot going on in those few blocks:
Mosaic starting construction
Maywood Park Apartments topped out and well along
Aloft in the final construction push; bars & restaurants included
Calvary Baptist Church getting close to wrapping
WSKY Lounge due to open soon
Urban Johnnies under construction in Level
Holiday Inn Express starting to rise from the ground
Soon: Maywood Park Phase II will begin
G.Walker 07-30-2013, 01:22 PM Noticed on my lunch they have dirt turning!
Dirt is moving:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQ8pUaYCMAAGl4L.jpg:large
Spartan 08-08-2013, 10:56 AM Here we go!
Wow, there is a lot going on in those few blocks:
Mosaic starting construction
Maywood Park Apartments topped out and well along
Aloft in the final construction push; bars & restaurants included
Calvary Baptist Church getting close to wrapping
WSKY Lounge due to open soon
Urban Johnnies under construction in Level
Holiday Inn Express starting to rise from the ground
Soon: Maywood Park Phase II will begin
That's just another day in Deep Deuce, OKC's top neighborhood.
Anonymous. 08-08-2013, 10:59 AM I think that massive hole is where they laid the septic tank. Saw the bulldozer lowering something down there on Monday with straps.
Deep Deuce is amazing and I'm starting to get the feel that Midtown won't be far behind in reaching critical mass, especially when MidtownR announces it's plans for a big residential development on the NE corner of 10th & Hudson.
That will bring hundreds more into the area and along with Fassler Hall / Dust Bowl fill in the biggest gap between the heart of Midtown (Plaza Court and everything along Walker) and all the activity in Auto Alley.
If we could then get some solid development between 10th and 4th, Downtown, Midtown, AA, Deep Deuce and Bricktown will be fairly knitted together and then we'll really be off to the races.
Dubya61 08-08-2013, 12:59 PM I think that massive hole is where they laid the septic tank. Saw the bulldozer lowering something down there on Monday with straps.
Do larger projects require septic tanks? Are they seepage? or pump emptied. Please excuse my ignorance on this matter. I just thought that septic tanks would only be used where no sewer service exists. (or is it a matter of existing sewer infrastructure not being adequate for the new larger projects?)
Bellaboo 08-08-2013, 01:19 PM Do larger projects require septic tanks? Are they seepage? or pump emptied. Please excuse my ignorance on this matter. I just thought that septic tanks would only be used where no sewer service exists. (or is it a matter of existing sewer infrastructure not being adequate for the new larger projects?)
I doubt it's a septic.....imagine he's just having fun. I would think they more than likely are installing a pump for the sewage though, to move it through the line.
Spartan 08-08-2013, 01:28 PM In other news Shop Good is now carrying sump pumps, in case yer downtown septic tank goes out on ya..
Anonymous. 08-08-2013, 02:16 PM I will be at the LoonyBin this weekend! Come out and see me! :lame:
From last night:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mosaic81313a.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mosaic81313b.jpg
Praedura 08-14-2013, 11:13 AM Mosaic Lake!
Good to see that they're "diving" right in on this project. :)
CaptDave 08-14-2013, 12:27 PM I see the swimming pool is finished. Must be the same contractor who did P180!
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