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Rover
05-23-2013, 10:48 AM
I don't understand how the tornado generated energy - period. I fully understand how a nuclear reaction can generate energy.

The tornado didn't "create" the energy but contains energy. The energy transformation occurs with the clash and change of temperatures and the power contained in the moisture in the air. Warm damp air meets cold air releasing massive amounts of energy. The tornado is a result and a carrier of the energy.

Just the facts
05-23-2013, 12:44 PM
So we can now all agree the comparison is totally bogus. However, if not then let me say that the month of April generated more energy than all nuclear detonations combined. The energy in 90 minutes of sunlight is greater than the combined energy production of entire human race in a year.

Rover
05-23-2013, 12:59 PM
Sometimes I think people keep doubling up on their lack of understanding just so they never admit they are wrong or that they just don't get it. Just because they don't get it themselves they don't think it is a viable statement. That is the definition of arrogance.

The point is that this was a gigantic display of destructive energy and the point that many, many media and scientific sites were making was to put things in perspective. But some on here want to argue just to win a point.

The point I was originally making was that there was such force in this tornado that it wouldn't have mattered whether it was in Moore or Bricktown, it still would have destroyed property and taken lives. To turn it into an urban vs suburban argument was asinine.

Just the facts
05-23-2013, 01:15 PM
But what if we do happen to think that density would save lives. Just because you say it doesn't, doesn't make it so. Housing at 10 units per acre has 2x the energy absorption as housing at 5 units per acre. Do you ever wonder why interior walls usually survive?

Rover
05-23-2013, 01:52 PM
Higher human density without the proper construction can mean higher casualties too. Some of the cheap stick build structures in Bricktown and DD would be decimated and suffer high casualties. Better built houses in suburbs could also conceivably suffer less.

I do agree that more mass absorbs more energy. However I can make the argument that once that structure is disrupted and collapses, flying debris, etc. could be more devastating to humans.. I hope and pray we never have to find out. But, as long as we keep building stick built structures all over downtown we are susceptible to these high energy natural events.

Plutonic Panda
05-23-2013, 03:32 PM
Wrongok

UnFrSaKn
06-16-2013, 01:04 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VOvCZyd.jpg

BigD Misey
06-16-2013, 02:07 PM
Great! If theres anything worse than a mystery tower, its a mystery photo.
The where's. the why's. what does it all mean?
Ugh!

Cool pic!

OKCisOK4me
06-16-2013, 02:35 PM
Is that a view from the TARDIS??

Urbanized
06-16-2013, 02:56 PM
Well that's just straight-up depressing.

UnFrSaKn
08-30-2013, 10:07 AM
This reminded me of the old tree where the scrapped hotel was going to go. You see this ever happening in this town?

http://i.imgur.com/IktTHH2.jpg

OKCisOK4me
08-31-2013, 10:22 AM
No, but that is impressive to say the least!