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OKCJapan
03-20-2013, 11:37 PM
Once again, the Thunder cannot finish close games on the road. At the current rate, with 4 more games on the road against teams that are biding for playoff spots, I could see the Thunder realistically going 59-23. Dropping to 4th maybe 5th in the west. In that case, I could see an 1st round exit. If that were to happen, I think there would half to be a some major changes to the bench roster. Some have blamed Brooks for his rotations. While Martin had a good game, he is too inconsistent for carry the bench scoring. I think Brooks needs to work Lamb and Jones III into the rotation to see if they can bring some additional offense to this team.

If you compare, the Thunder schedule to Memphis, Clippers and Denver, The difficult part of their schedules were early in their seasons and they racked up several losses. Now they are riding the easy roads into the playoffs. It is just the opposite for the Thunder.

Even if the Thunder do not make it back to the WCF this season, at this point, I have chalked it up as a transition year, which is difficult for any team.

venture
03-21-2013, 11:39 AM
Yeah, the team seemed to be on the right progression each season getting towards the title, but this year it just isn't happening. I agree they very well could be knocked out in the first round. It is what it is. The Thunder are a good team, but they are not a very good team like they were last year.

OKCisOK4me
03-21-2013, 11:53 AM
I'm still solid with a Western Conference semifinals bow out...

Teo9969
03-21-2013, 03:03 PM
OKC will remain the #2 seed, win Round 1 in 4/5 games, win Round 2 in 6 and in the WCF either lose to San Antonio in 7 or beat the Grizz in 6.

If they make it to the Finals, they'll lose in 6 to Miami

SoonerBoy18
03-21-2013, 04:35 PM
OKC will remain the #2 seed, win Round 1 in 4/5 games, win Round 2 in 6 and in the WCF either lose to San Antonio in 7 or beat the Grizz in 6.

If they make it to the Finals, they'll lose in 6 to Miami

Will I ever be a millionare?.....

Teo9969
03-22-2013, 01:20 AM
Will I ever be a millionare?.....

Probably...It's called inflation

MonkeesFan
03-22-2013, 03:51 AM
Here is to a good game and a Magic win/loss

Either way is good with me

Win=Beat a good team and avoid sweep
Loss=Better chance of getting #1 draft pick

OKCisOK4me
03-22-2013, 08:30 AM
The way the Thunder has been playing, Orlando will win.

Bill Robertson
03-22-2013, 04:16 PM
The way the Thunder has been playing, Orlando will win.You make it sound like the Thunder are working to stay out of last place. Get real! For those who don't remember the Thunder lost 7 of the last 15 games last year and made the finals. They do seem to have some issues with rotation, making adjustments and the top players not putting their best on the floor right now but that doesn't justify jumping off the bandwagon.

Anonymous.
03-22-2013, 04:40 PM
Hopefully we will peak right as the playoffs get going. Right now I feel as if the Heat and Nugs are definitely at their peaks. Both riding on great basketball and good luck. Thunder riding on the opposite.

Teams don't stay hot for forever (See Spurs last two seasons into the playoffs).

SoonerBoy18
03-22-2013, 06:51 PM
I think the pressure will not be on us in the finals, it will be on Miami which gives Thunder a great advantage

MonkeesFan
03-22-2013, 08:28 PM
That was a great and entertaining game to watch! I am very proud of the Magic for playing the Thunder a tough game! Congratulations on the win!

MonkeesFan
03-22-2013, 08:48 PM
The way the Thunder has been playing, Orlando will win.

You were close to being right

OKCisOK4me
03-22-2013, 11:07 PM
You were close to being right

Haha. I wore the Durant jersey out tonight since he said it was a "must win game". If we hadn't, I woulda worn the alternate navy/white Westbrook jersey for the rest of the season!

MonkeesFan
03-22-2013, 11:08 PM
Haha. I wore the Durant jersey out tonight since he said it was a "must win game". If we hadn't, I woulda worn the alternate navy/white Westbrook jersey for the rest of the season!

Durant had a nice game tonight, he killed the Magic in the 4th quarter

Westbrook also had a nice game too

OKCisOK4me
03-22-2013, 11:13 PM
Yeah, I watched the game at Lumpys on North May. Hard to pay attention with all the NCAA games going on! Good for KD. Hope they can continue the 1 game winning streak, lol!

Anonymous.
03-25-2013, 08:24 AM
Thunder beat Portland last night. Maynor looked really good out there. Luckily Reggie is also good and getting better.


One thing, Fisher needs to GTFO. Why Brooks loves him is beyond me, but the guy is trash on defense and offense. Brooks brings him in as a shooting guard... WTF is that? At least we saw a glimpse of Liggins last night, everyone has forgotten he is on our team since Fisher appeared.


The tweets last night about Fisher being 0-14 the last week and thunder fans being 2-6 from halfcourt were hilarious.


Fan hit the $20,000 half court shot last night and Durant imitated Lebron which was funny.


Tonight is the season ticket member party @ the 'Peake.

dankrutka
03-25-2013, 11:32 AM
Brooks love for Fisher and Perkins could cost this team a series and end their season. Brooks is paid like top 5 coach and he's one if the worst game managers in the NBA. He needs to play Reggie more and go with small lineups more often. Stats should make this an easy decision. Fisher and Perkins' can contribute their intangibles from the bench.

Anonymous.
03-27-2013, 11:09 AM
Wizards in OKC tonight. Thunder have not beaten the Wizards in 2 seasons.

Heat are @ the Bulls tonight.

Nuggets are @ Spurs tonight.

SoonerBoy18
03-27-2013, 10:35 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if Thunder reclaims the #1 spot and the Mavs faught their way to the 8th, thats what I am hoping for because the series will be that much more exciting, I have a feeling this is about to be one hard boring playoff series for the Thunder since Houston is struggling right now.

dankrutka
03-28-2013, 02:18 AM
I actually think an OKC-Houston series is the most exciting 1st round possibility save the Lakers.

Anonymous.
03-28-2013, 08:20 AM
Heat finally lose.


Thunder stomp the Wizards.


Nuggets can't pull it off in SAS, Spurs still 1.5 games ahead of Thunder.


Playing either Houston or Golden State in the first round is somewhat scary. But so is playing the Jazz.

I think we destroy either Lakers or Mavericks.

Bellaboo
03-28-2013, 09:03 AM
Heat finally lose.


Thunder stomp the Wizards.


Nuggets can't pull it off in SAS, Spurs still 1.5 games ahead of Thunder.


Playing either Houston or Golden State in the first round is somewhat scary. But so is playing the Jazz.

I think we destroy either Lakers or Mavericks.


I think the next 3 games for the Spurs is against the Clippers, Heat and Grizzlies....... these will be tough for them. And then next Thursday they play us at the Peake.

Teo9969
03-28-2013, 12:11 PM
Heat finally lose.


Thunder stomp the Wizards.


Nuggets can't pull it off in SAS, Spurs still 1.5 games ahead of Thunder.


Playing either Houston or Golden State in the first round is somewhat scary. But so is playing the Jazz.

I think we destroy either Lakers or Mavericks.

You're scared of Houston and Golden State? Houston will/would be over in 4 and Golden State in 5.

Easy180
03-28-2013, 07:42 PM
You're scared of Houston and Golden State? Houston will/would be over in 4 and Golden State in 5.

And neither one of em has a guy named Kobe

SoonerBoy18
03-28-2013, 11:16 PM
Playing either Houston or Golden State in the first round is somewhat scary. But so is playing the Jazz.


Are you kidding me?....

Mississippi Blues
03-28-2013, 11:46 PM
I agree with Anonymous. Those teams can light it up fast if given the opportunity, & it's more intimidating if the Thunder go on one of their cold streaks while Houston or Golden State are lighting it up. I still think we would win the series against either team, but you just never know.

Teo9969
03-29-2013, 12:56 AM
I agree with Anonymous. Those teams can light it up fast if given the opportunity, & it's more intimidating if the Thunder go on one of their cold streaks while Houston or Golden State are lighting it up. I still think we would win the series against either team, but you just never know.

Against playoff defense both of these teams are going to wilt like spinach in a sauté pan.

Teo9969
03-29-2013, 01:02 AM
I agree with Anonymous. Those teams can light it up fast if given the opportunity, & it's more intimidating if the Thunder go on one of their cold streaks while Houston or Golden State are lighting it up. I still think we would win the series against either team, but you just never know.

Against playoff defense both of these teams are going to wilt like spinach in a sauté pan.

Mississippi Blues
03-29-2013, 01:02 AM
Against playoff defense both of these teams are going to wilt like spinach in a sauté pan.

I'm gonna wait till after game 1 of the playoffs to make any predictions on how bad they'll do, but I don't expect them to make much noise. There's still no sense in turning a deaf ear to either team though. Plenty of teams that weren't expected to get anywhere knocked off top teams. Memphis & Golden State are the teams I'm thinking of from recent history.

Edit: I also would like to give you props for that analogy. I haven't heard that one till just now.

OKCJapan
03-29-2013, 04:16 PM
As far as the playoffs go, I think that if this team does not get back to the WCF, then the season has been a failure. The reason, I don't think it will be because of the Harden trade. Many blog opinions as well as the last couple of Thunder Thursdays from the Oklahoman are starting to blame Scott Brooks and his rotations. I am starting to agree with their opinions. Some have gone even far as to say that if the Thunder do not make it to the WCF, then, unless his contract states otherwise, he will be gone next season.

Jake
03-29-2013, 09:46 PM
Derek Fisher is awful. There is absolutely no excuse for him to be playing so many minutes.

Scott Brooks doesn't know how to create proper lineups. Bad coach.

SoonerBoy18
03-29-2013, 10:57 PM
Derek Fisher is awful. There is absolutely no excuse for him to be playing so many minutes.

Scott Brooks doesn't know how to create proper lineups. Bad coach.

And Kendrick Perkins...smh

Anonymous.
03-30-2013, 01:35 PM
Perkins and Fisher are holding this team back. Thus, Brooks is holding this team back. He is playing these two guys regardless of the situation or matchup. Brooks has his minute rotations and is stubborn to change them. Why would Fisher ever play as shooting guard? It makes no sense, if anything he should run the point. I would put money on Lamb taking those threes EVER SINGLE TIME over Fisher. And lamb can at least play defense on taller players than Fisher can. This is too frustrating to watch anymore. I hope the role players turn up the dial when it comes to Playoffs, because they are playing against Brooks and their opponents.


If we make it to the finals again, it will be on sheer drive and talent by the players, Brooks has obviously not tried to change anything.




This is like the movie Moneyball, when the coach doesn't play the acquired players as they are designed.

SoonerBoy18
03-30-2013, 10:31 PM
I dont know what Scott Brooks said during that time out when Milwaukee was up by 5 with 8 minutes left in the 4th but what ever it was, hopefully he keeps it up. Very "Gregg Popovich Like".

dankrutka
03-31-2013, 01:32 PM
I dont know what Scott Brooks said during that time out when Milwaukee was up by 5 with 8 minutes left in the 4th but what ever it was, hopefully he keeps it up. Very "Gregg Popovich Like".

What was "Greg Popovich like?" Talking to his team during a timeout? I think Pop is the best coach in the NBA, but he gets credit for breathing these days. Brooks (incredibly) out coached him in the WCFs last year...

Anonymous.
03-31-2013, 08:25 PM
I feel like Harden and Thabo are the only reason we beat the Spurs last playoffs.

dankrutka
04-01-2013, 12:01 AM
I feel like Harden and Thabo are the only reason we beat the Spurs last playoffs.

Well, I'd argue that Kevin Durant played a large role. Lol.

I just can't help but think that if we still had Harden we'd be very similar to Miami right now instead of one of many teams that could win the west. I was always in favor of keeping Harden this season and next (with a max contract), we'd have to pay the luxury tax next season (which we should be able to afford with the gigantic profits the team has taken in with cheap contracts in recent seasons), and then trade Harden when his value would be sky high after next season. I just don't think this team can beat the Heat in a series.

The playoffs will determine whether the trade was successful.

Teo9969
04-01-2013, 12:02 AM
Well, I'd argue that Kevin Durant played a large role. Lol.

I just can't help but think that if we still had Harden we'd be very similar to Miami right now instead of one of many teams that could win the west. I was always in favor of keeping Harden this season and next (with a max contract), we'd have to pay the luxury tax next season (which we should be able to afford with the gigantic profits the team has taken in with cheap contracts in recent seasons), and then trade Harden when his value would be sky high after next season. I just don't think this team can beat the Heat in a series.

The playoffs will determine whether the trade was successful.

No.

The next 5 years will determine whether the trade was successful.

dankrutka
04-01-2013, 01:06 AM
No.

The next 5 years will determine whether the trade was successful.

Well, I don't totally disagree, but if we tank out early in this playoffs then it will appear that we gave up a legitimate title shot THIS season. Real shots at titles don't come around every year.

Teo9969
04-01-2013, 01:25 AM
Well, I don't totally disagree, but if we tank out early in this playoffs then it will appear that we gave up a legitimate title shot THIS season. Real shots at titles don't come around every year.

OKC is for sure not going to lose the 1st round.

Memphis and San Antonio are the only 2 teams that one could reasonably expect to beat OKC out of the West, and I think even Memphis would fail to pull it out over the course of a series. But OKC may well not even draw Memphis in their "bracket".

Come the playoffs, I expect OKC to simply out talent everyone except for the Spurs and Miami. And I even expect them to out talent the Spurs...it's just the Spurs play so well within their system that OKC will have to really play well within their own to pull out a W.

If OKC makes it back to the WCF this year, and I think they will, I'd consider this season successful enough.

Anonymous.
04-01-2013, 02:11 PM
OKC has a good chance at taking the #1 spot on Thursday. Spurs lost last night to the Heat at home.

Spurs play in Memphis tonight, then fly to Orlando to play the Magic on Wednesday and finish the back-to-back Thursday night here in OKC.


I feel like we need HCA way more this season than last, Harden took over game 5 in San Antonio last season. I know we can beat them, but being at home would sure be a good help.

Anonymous.
04-01-2013, 09:31 PM
Grizzlies helped us out tonight. Spurs now just 1 game ahead of OKC. Thursday is a MUST win... We have had 4 days of rest and Spurs will be on game 4 in 5 nights.

SoonerBoy18
04-01-2013, 09:36 PM
Grizzlies helped us out tonight. Spurs now just 1 game ahead of OKC. Thursday is a MUST win... We have had 4 days of rest and Spurs will be on game 4 in 5 nights.

But its pretty stupid how the schedule makers made the schedule because The Spurs will win against Orlando the night before they come to Okla.City I wish we could have at least played one weak team before we played the Spurs so it can be all tied right before we face off for the final time in the reg. season

ljbab728
04-01-2013, 09:42 PM
But its pretty stupid how the schedule makers made the schedule because The Spurs will win against Orlando the night before they come to Okla.City I wish we could have at least played one weak team before we played the Spurs so it can be all tied right before we face off for the final time in the reg. season

Obviously the schedule makers knew before the season how this would work out just to frustrate the Thunder. LOL

Mississippi Blues
04-01-2013, 09:46 PM
Obviously the schedule makers knew before the season how this would work out just to frustrate the Thunder. LOL

:tongue:

dankrutka
04-01-2013, 09:46 PM
OKC is for sure not going to lose the 1st round.

Just to clarify, I didn't say 1st round. But 2nd round against Memphis, the Clippers, or Nuggets is not a sure thing. We'll see...

dankrutka
04-01-2013, 09:48 PM
Obviously the schedule makers knew before the season how this would work out just to frustrate the Thunder. LOL

Don't understand what you're saying. Not sure why playing an easy team would help anything.

ljbab728
04-01-2013, 09:59 PM
Don't understand what you're saying. Not sure why playing an easy team would help anything.

I didn't say that at all. I was making light of SoonerBoy's theory. I have no problems with the schedule.

Anonymous.
04-01-2013, 10:22 PM
Honestly the Thunder should be any amount of scared of is the Grizzlies, Spurs, and Nugs.

Theories:


[if we get #1 and win round 1] Clippers and Grizzlies have had epic battles in round 1, they will destroy each other. If the Clips end up beating the Griz (like they did last season) Then we stomp the Clips easy. If we have to play MEM, we better hope they are worn down.

Thunder stomps Lakers or Dallas; slightly more difficult vs Jazz (they match against us well).

I think our worst chances are against a Houston or Golden State sleeper team [This is another reason why I want #1 seed].

Another scenario to ponder, if we are #1 and the Lakers somehow pull it off to get the 8 spot, I have an underlying fear of conspiracy officiating pushing the Lakers past us.


I don't know about you guys, but if the standings stay like they are and we end up the #2 seed - I think we are going to have trouble in round 2 - because that means we are playing Nuggets or Warriors, and Nuggets have our number as of late.

Teo9969
04-01-2013, 10:50 PM
Kilgore, I knew you were talking about a 2nd round exit.

Glad that we get the Spurs in a similar situation to what they were given when we played them in SA last month (we were playing 4th game in 5 nights and the 2nd night of a back to back...on the road).

For those of you taking them seriously, here's why I'm not scared of Denver: Who do they have that will absolutely take over a game against playoff defense? It's the thing people just forget about when watching the regular season, but every single team's defense rises to whole new levels when the post-season starts. Think back to last year's playoffs: How many unreal shots do you see on a regular basis from the KD's, LBJ's, Tony Parker's, Nowitzki's of the world? There are so many of them that it becomes common place to think they are going in, but it's the only thing that really separates these teams from the Indianas, Golden States, and Denvers of the NBA. I mean, seriously, I seen exactly 1 game this year where Collison has played like he plays in the playoffs, and that was the other night against Memphis...Teams are going to have to beat a Collison, Sefolosha, and Ibaka that are all playing their hardest and have plenty of time to scout the other team's offense.

Scout Kevin Durant all you want, but if his shot is falling, there is no defender on the planet that can stop him.

Ty Lawson is their best shot at that kind of offensive player...that's not good odds for them.

dankrutka
04-02-2013, 01:27 AM
I didn't say that at all. I was making light of SoonerBoy's theory. I have no problems with the schedule.

Apologies. I meant to respond to his comment, not yours.

dankrutka
04-02-2013, 01:32 AM
I agree that I'm skeptical of the Nuggets until they do it, but I'm not writing them off either. They remind me of the 2004 Pistons team which didn't have a superstar either. If you put a gun to my head if say the Thunder will make the Dinals again, but I don't have a ton of confidence.

I actually want Utah in the 1st round. They don't scare me.

Bill Robertson
04-02-2013, 07:14 AM
But its pretty stupid how the schedule makers made the schedule because The Spurs will win against Orlando the night before they come to Okla.City I wish we could have at least played one weak team before we played the Spurs so it can be all tied right before we face off for the final time in the reg. seasonOne weak team? The Thunder haven't played a team that's above .500 since Memphis on March 20th. 5 games against pretty weak teams since then.

SoonerDave
04-02-2013, 08:48 AM
Grizzlies helped us out tonight. Spurs now just 1 game ahead of OKC. Thursday is a MUST win... We have had 4 days of rest and Spurs will be on game 4 in 5 nights.

And Ginobli's hamstring appears poised to send him to an extended absence that may creep all the way into the playoffs. This is a *monstrous* break for the Thunder. We *must* take advantage of it.

My biggest concerns overall for the Thunder overall this postseason? 1. Miami. Don't know if anyone can win 4 out of 7 against them. 2. Bench. Thunder bench is a shadow of last year's, IMHO. Trying not to say the "H-word," but you know how that is... :)

Anonymous.
04-02-2013, 09:05 AM
One thing we know for sure, you can't do much worse than Harden did in the Finals. I Think Martin is way less emotional and thus will be able to take over parts of the game with his icy cold daggers.

I like it when Reggie runs the point with Martin on the floor, Russell does not do a very good job finding Martin.


But this conversation is still a few months down the road :D

dankrutka
04-02-2013, 09:27 AM
One thing we know for sure, you can't do much worse than Harden did in the Finals. I Think Martin is way less emotional and thus will be able to take over parts of the game with his icy cold daggers.

I like it when Reggie runs the point with Martin on the floor, Russell does not do a very good job finding Martin.

But this conversation is still a few months down the road :D

Yeah, but we wouldn't have made the Finals without Harden. He's a considerably better player than Martin.

Our bench would be vastly improved if Reggie took all of Fisher's minutes. Fisher might be the worst player in the NBA that gets minutes for a contender. If Brooks continues to play him it could cost us. It's even more ridiculous considering how well Reggie is playing now. Brooks could be OKC's biggest liability in the playoffs.

Anonymous.
04-02-2013, 09:34 AM
Yup, it boggles my mind that Brooks sat Maynor only 2 months into the season after performing mediocre, now Maynor is playing quite well considering he is recovering for Portland.

Now you simply replace Fisher into Maynor's spot and now it makes no sense. Fisher has done ZERO things for the last 3 weeks, he had that one week where he was hitting some shots. But now he does nothing.


At no point should Fisher ever be out there unless Reggie or Russell are injured. Playing Fisher as a shooting guard (which is what Brooks is doing) is INCORRECT! Lamb is a shooting guard, why not play him in this position?! What ever happened to Liggins!?

Yea yea, I keep repeating the same thing every time we speak of Fisher, but it is astronomically frustrating.


I feel like Presti signed Fisher on, as a backup just in case something happened to one of our PGs... I don't think he realized Brooks would give the useless SOB 15 minutes per game.. Ridiculous.

Bill Robertson
04-02-2013, 12:17 PM
I think Fisher did make a difference last year and was happy to see him come back. That has since changed. I have to agree with everyone that he has brought nothing this year. Reggie needs to be on the floor those minutes.

About Maynor. I don't know if Brooks gave him enough time or not. I do know there are players in every pro sport that play really well for one team and then go to another and do nothing. And vice versa.

Anonymous.
04-03-2013, 10:33 AM
Well Dallas pretty much lost their playoff hopes last night. Lakers blew them out in LA.

So basically the Lakers and Jazz are tied for 8th seed right now.



This is setting the stage for several things:

Scenario 1: We beat Spurs Thursday night (great chance @ #1 seed)

We then play Lakers or Jazz.


Scenario 2: We lose to the Spurs Thursday or lose some of the easier games remaining on OKC schedule (Knicks and Pacers are statistical hardest opponents remaining)

We then most likely play Houston.


I think (no, I KNOW) we want the first scenario, Harden can take over games and the Rockets have shown strength versus the Spurs. So we have a good shot at having Spurs knocked out early, and if not - at least we don't have to deal with the Rockets.

I still go back to a fear in my head that if the Lakers make the 8 spot, whoever is #1 is going to be playing against some really bad officiating.