^You're correct, the AUS Admirals Club was there much before BA started service, I was only making a point that with BA it has that much more traffic. I think AA has called AUS a "focus" airport, and combined AA/Eagle have around 30 daily departures from AUS last I checked.

So I was chatting with a friend and I was told the initial renderings aren't coming to fruition because they didn't want to new terminal to be too nice or else it would detract from the recently remodeled terminals. Can anyone confirm if that is true?

So I was chatting with a friend and I was told the initial renderings aren't coming to fruition because they didn't want to new terminal to be too nice or else it would detract from the recently remodeled terminals. Can anyone confirm if that is true?
No offense but that sounds ridiculous.

I wouldn't put much stock in that theory.

No offense but that sounds ridiculous.


I wouldn't put much stock in that theory.
Good to know. I'll happily take looking stupid on here and be content that I know this isn't true.

It's possible that they could have changed some small design elements or finishes to make it less obvious it was an addition, but I am pretty sure the overall design and feel should be the same as rendered. I haven't seen any changes on any meeting agendas though.

So I was chatting with a friend and I was told the initial renderings aren't coming to fruition because they didn't want to new terminal to be too nice or else it would detract from the recently remodeled terminals. Can anyone confirm if that is true?

If changes were made on it being 'less nice', it seems far more likely it would be a cost saving measure, not concern about making the rest look bad. Plus traffic has mostly been stable to growing so unless they had just forecast much larger growth or have started expecting some other large unplanned expenditure(s), there does not seem much reason for a recent shift.

Today at noon the airport will announce a new airline and nonstop service.

And ideas about who and what this might be?

We'll know for sure in about 4 hours.

My guess is Frontier with nonstop service to MIA.

My guess is Frontier with nonstop service to MIA.

Good guess!

Checking the Frontier website looks like they will start nonstops to Orlando (MCO) and Denver starting November 1st.

Allegiant currently flies nonstop to Orlando SFB on a seasonal basis.

Frontier website now lists DEN, MCO, and SAN as destinations from OKC. Search under "book a flight"

Also, when choosing OKC on the Frontier website it also provides an option for flights to San Diego but then no dates.

Seems like that may be happening in the future.

Also, when choosing OKC on the Frontier website it also provides an option for flights to San Diego but then no dates.

Seems like that may be happening in the future.
That's freaking fantastic.

I saw they were expanding out of Miami, so that is the source of my guess. With their new fleet expansion, it must be allowing them to grow rapidly. This is great for OKC.

Frontier website now lists DEN, MCO, and SAN as destinations from OKC. Search under "book a flight"

Right, but no available dates for San Diego.

I suspect that will be added as future service.

Playing around with the dates with Frontier, OKC-MCO one way as low as $34 if your'e in their club, $44 if not. I'm sure all the baggage fee's will easily double that price though.

The website now allows you to see all of the cities you can connect to from OKC. Pretty wide range of options for a low price. If you travel a lot, joining their "club" is well worth the $50 per year.

I just can't get on board with airlines that charge $55 for one carry-on and one checked bag. If a couple makes a round-trip, you're looking at an extra $220 added to the fare. And, on top of that, Frontier wants to charge at least $12 for selecting your seat. When I last looked, the only free seats were in the middle on the last, three rows of the plane.

I suppose its a fine airline for business passengers with limited bags. But I don't see the appeal for a family.

I just can't get on board with airlines that charge $55 for one carry-on and one checked bag. If a couple makes a round-trip, you're looking at an extra $220 added to the fare. And, on top of that, Frontier wants to charge at least $12 for selecting your seat. When I last looked, the only free seats were in the middle on the last, three rows of the plane.

I guess my wife and I don't take as much on our trips. We never have to check a bag, and usually only have one carry-on each. If we checked a single larger bag, we wouldn't need any carry on besides our free personal item (her purse, my laptop bag). So we'd be looking at a much smaller addition to the fare.

The seat selection is the thing that would get me the most. But even with that and the bag fee included, it's still cheaper than anything else I could find to Miami.

https://twitter.com/fly_okc/status/887356665326182403

Denver Orlando San Diego

Meh

Meh

+1

+1

+2 :)

Meh

Yeah, adding 2 destinations (on either coast, as well) is awful...

I'd be more excited if it were not an Ala-Carte airline. they just aren't my Jam.. give me a price that includes my seat selection and preferable a Bag.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Tuesday, July 18

FRONTIER AIRLINES TO LAUNCH SERVICE TO THREE CITIES FROM OKLAHOMA CITY
Special fares as low as $39

OKLAHOMA CITY – Frontier Airlines will launch new low-fare service between Oklahoma City and three new cities starting this fall. Frontier will celebrate the new service with fares as low as $39* at flyfrontier.com.

The new cities from Oklahoma City include the following: Denver, Orlando and San Diego. Frontier will operate these new routes with Airbus A320 family aircraft. Today’s announcement is part of a national announcement where Frontier is bringing low fares to 21 new cities and 85 new routes, which will include 90 percent of the U.S. population.

“With today’s announcement, Frontier now offers our Low Fares Done Right service in Oklahoma City,” said Sean Morahan, director-stations, Frontier Airlines. “Customers traveling from Oklahoma City now have a new significantly lower-cost option to reach these great destinations.”

“We are very pleased to welcome Frontier Airlines back to Oklahoma City,” says Mark Kranenburg, director of airports. “Known for their low fares to more than 60 destinations, Frontier will be a great addition to our market. The nonstop cities announced today are some of the area’s favorites. I know our customers will appreciate the service and the prices.”

Frontier is focused on more than low fares. The carrier offers customers the ability to customize their travel to their needs and budget. For example, customers can purchase options a la carte or in one low-priced bundle called the WORKSsm. This bundle offers Frontier’s most popular options for as low as $59** each way and includes refundability, a carry-on bag, a checked bag, the best available seat, waived change fees and priority boarding.

To celebrate our new service from Oklahoma City to three new cities, Frontier is giving passengers a chance to win four round trip flights. Enter at: bit.ly/FrontierContest

Following is a summary of the new service:

CITY
START DATE
FREQUNCY
Denver
Nov. 1
Daily
Orlando
Nov. 1
Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday
San Diego
Spring 2018
TBD


About Frontier Airlines
Frontier Airlines is committed to offering ‘Low Fares Done Right’ to more than 80 destinations in the United States, Canada, Dominican Republic and Mexico on nearly 300 daily flights. Headquartered in Denver, Frontier’s hard-working aviation professionals pride themselves in delivering the company’s signature Rocky Mountain hospitality to customers. Frontier Airlines is the proud recipient of the Federal Aviation Administration’s 2016 Diamond Award for maintenance excellence and was recently named the industry’s most fuel-efficient airline by The International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT) as a result of superior technology and operational efficiencies.


*18JUL17- 20JUL17 New Market Introductory Fares

Introductory fares are available for travel Nov. 2, 2017 through Mar. 8, 2018 on specific days in select markets. Fares are valid Tuesday, Wednesday, and Saturday unless otherwise specified below. Fares must be purchased by 11:59 pm Eastern time on Jul. 20, 2017. The following blackout dates apply; Nov. 22, 25-26, 2017, Dec. 21-22, 26-30, 2017, Jan. 1-2, 2018, Feb. 16, 19, 2018.

Growth is growth

Growth is growth

Exactly. People are saying the fees are "hidden", but really they're just later in the booking process. You eventually see how much it will cost, and it's almost always going to be much cheaper than a major airline. Is it perfect for a family of 5? No. But for 1 or 2 people planning a quick getaway, it's awesome to have options. Before kids, my wife and I took great advantage of Allegiant and never had an issue. Same with Spirit in Dallas.

Well not exactly a "new" airline, but surprised to see F9 will be using 320s. Although I'm guessing that's only to start out with, it does have smaller 319s that can be used for lower passenger count periods. Hope these new flights get used, and also wonder how the MCO service will do alongside Allegiant's SFB service.

Playing around checking airfare and not impress at all. Picked dates in Nov just compare and only compared with SWA. $55 cheaper to Chicago on SWA. $50 cheaper on Frontier to Orlando. $25 cheaper to Vegas on Frontier That is for one person. I sure if I added a bag SWA would be just has cheap if not cheaper to these locations. This is also not a "club fare" which would save you a little more but over all MEH.

Playing around checking airfare and not impress at all. Picked dates in Nov just compare and only compared with SWA. $55 cheaper to Chicago on SWA. $50 cheaper on Frontier to Orlando. $25 cheaper to Vegas on Frontier That is for one person. I sure if I added a bag SWA would be just has cheap if not cheaper to these locations. This is also not a "club fare" which would save you a little more but over all MEH.
Wait. Same thing happened with American in Stillwater and the fares dropped after a while.

Playing around checking airfare and not impress at all. Picked dates in Nov just compare and only compared with SWA. $55 cheaper to Chicago on SWA. $50 cheaper on Frontier to Orlando. $25 cheaper to Vegas on Frontier That is for one person. I sure if I added a bag SWA would be just has cheap if not cheaper to these locations. This is also not a "club fare" which would save you a little more but over all MEH.

Don't forget, SWA is going to terminate service to MDW from OKC. Airfares fluctuate daily. Give the market time to stabilize. Frontier is liable to undercut everyone.

Don't forget, SWA is going to terminate service to MDW from OKC. Airfares fluctuate daily. Give the market time to stabilize. Frontier is liable to undercut everyone.

Fingers crossed but their baggage fees are high. $35 for a carry-on seems high. Haven't really flown much in the past year.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/18/news/companies/frontier-airlines-doubling-in-size/index.html

More info

I'd be more excited if it were not an Ala-Carte airline. they just aren't my Jam.. give me a price that includes my seat selection and preferable a Bag.

Who the hell offers that now for a base fare? No one, even the legacy carriers have stooped to the lowest common denominator unless you have status.

Fingers crossed but their baggage fees are high. $35 for a carry-on seems high. Haven't really flown much in the past year.

Yes $30-35 is high for a carry on but your first checked bag is only $25-30. This is in line with Delta, United, and American's checked baggage fee. When coupled with an extremely low fare, it can be a real money saver.

Also look for United to match or beat on price with Frontier on some markets. Scott Kirby plans to take Frontier to town with this latest announcement.

Also look for United to match or beat on price with Frontier on some markets. Scott Kirby plans to take Frontier to town with this latest announcement.

yeah I just read that, pretty bold statements. you're back at DEN right? what's the sentiment there?

yeah I just read that, pretty bold statements. you're back at DEN right? what's the sentiment there?

We love Oscar and Kirby and the employees are glad United has finally grown a backbone. Rolled over too many times giving away routes to other airlines.

Smisek was a schmuck. Granted my loyalty goes back to CO days but he was terrible

Smisek was a schmuck. Granted my loyalty goes back to CO days but he was terrible

No one from either side likes him (I'm from the CO side too). As part of his golden parachute he retained his unlimited flying privileges, I've heard he doesn't use them very often at all and he's changed his appearance so much (beard and hair color) that he can avoid being noticed most of the time. Of course his name is still on the manifest.

No one from either side likes him (I'm from the CO side too). As part of his golden parachute he retained his unlimited flying privileges, I've heard he doesn't use them very often at all and he's changed his appearance so much (beard and hair color) that he can avoid being noticed most of the time. Of course his name is still on the manifest.

wow that's bad

wow that's bad

The entire airline has a breath of fresh air now with the new management team. They treat us well and have the backbone to stand up to other airlines and even in a lot of cases Wall Street. Right now Wall Street is unhappy with the domestic capacity gains, but the long term benefit of growing domestic presence is huge even though it has a short term effect on yield. United literally has around 15 years of growth to catch up on. American and Delta both expanded domestic capacity over the last 15 years while United shrank. WS is unhappy UAL is playing the long game instead of cutting capacity to boost short term yield. Kirby has had the backbone to flat out tell WS they are wrong - that's very refreshing to the front line. OKC would still have United agents if Smisek left and Kirby came along earlier.

I think there was a saying on FlyerTalk back in the day of "don't United my Continental"

Is Frontier going to be providing ramp and counter service for these flights or are they outsourcing?

Is Frontier going to be providing ramp and counter service for these flights or are they outsourcing?

It will be outsourced.

Possible new maintenance base at OKC by Skywest, pending an incentives package:

Source: OKC Talk (http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=416-SkyWest-Airlines-to-bring-375-jobs-to-OKC)

This would be big stuff if it passes no doubt, and Skywest is one of the better and more stable regionals out there.

It's a no brainer really

Hangar 84 LLC (former ARINC, now Field Aviation) modified and renewed their lease to allow for the expansion of that facility to the north. Not sure if they have active plans to build another hangar, or if they were just renewing their lease to allow for the expansion in the future.

The new SkyWest Maintenance Center will be located north of Atlantic Aviation and south of Field Aviation along Taxiway H1.

https://i.gyazo.com/7b86c0a17d1200794feacac7085b81b9.png

https://i.gyazo.com/2fba55b46fc9c620c17feb4a95d4ab7b.png

Looks like there is plenty of room for more of this sort of thing all along that east taxiway.

Looks like there is plenty of room for more of this sort of thing all along that east taxiway.

They are extending the east/west taxiway stubs (the ones dead ending as they approach the old Portland Ave.) to cross the old Portland Ave alignment, so there will be even more opportunities available in the eastern parcels.

This shows the general plan now that Portland has been shifted east:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/skywest4.jpg

Is this an updated map? I feel I haven't seen it before with the lariat landing stuff. Just curious if they decided to make changes since the other side of the highway has started to take off.

Also what do they mean by strategic reserve?

Yes, current as of this week.

I'm sure the strategic reserve is area they want to hold for future operations. They now have 100 acres they can market for aviation use to outside companies.

I feel like I remember them having more of a plan of retail, but I'm sure that's changed. I'm guessing the little area around 89th is going to be retail as well? Any idea if there are any near plans to add anything or they are just continuing to slow play it?

Thanks for the update.

I feel like I remember them having more of a plan of retail, but I'm sure that's changed. I'm guessing the little area around 89th is going to be retail as well? Any idea if there are any near plans to add anything or they are just continuing to slow play it?

Thanks for the update.

That is pretty similar with some of the earlier plans

http://www.greateroklahomacity.com/clientuploads/images/lariat_landing_postcard_11-11c-2.jpg

Though it would not be a shock if things have changed either if their has been some combination of more interest from aviation companies than expected or less interest from retailers (which in general have not been doing nearly as much expansion in the last decade as prior and have plenty of options/subsidies in more established retail centers).

I feel like the map in post #1073 is misleading where it shows I-44 SB is to Norman. Would anyone actually take this road to get to Norman? I think it should say to Lawton.

I feel like the map in post #1073 is misleading where it shows I-44 SB is to Norman. Would anyone actually take this road to get to Norman? I think it should say to Lawton.

I thought the same thing. I was actually thinking Newcastle would be the most correct since it's the first town you come across that isn't OKC, but if you are doing major cities then yeah Lawton.

Answering that question TODAY...no, you probably wouldn't take I-44 to Norman. That said, I do know more than a handful of people who do indeed take that route.

But let's put a pin in that for now and answer it a few years down the line when the turnpike expansion is built. Yes, a good number of people will still take I-240 to I-35, but you'll also seen an impressive rise in the number of people who take I-44 to Highway 9. If the great greedy turnpike organization can reign in the ever-increasing fees, a lot of people are going to decide it's worth the money to avoid the traffic.