Wonderful silhouette!

Interestingly, with new owners of what was Sandridge Tower and BancFirst Tower, neither has the holiday-season crosses displayed this year.

Since the state now owns Sandridge, you can be pretty certain the cross will not reappear there. And of course, Bancfirst is under construction but they could have still done it on 3 sides of the building.

Interestingly, with new owners of what was Sandridge Tower and BancFirst Tower, neither has the holiday-season crosses displayed this year.

Since the state now owns Sandridge, you can be pretty certain the cross will not reappear there. And of course, Bancfirst is under construction but they could have still done it on 3 sides of the building.

That is a shame. Although the cross means different things to different people (or nothing at all), for me it was like the BC Clark jingle that you knew it was the holiday season when they appeared. It was just part of our December skyline. Guess not having it up will be the new normal. (and understandable as it is a state building now)

i think it has been reported before that BancFirst will continue the crosses after the renovation

as a christian myself; red/green holiday colors are better anyway, and more visibly inclusive. Crosses can be perceived by many as exclusionary and IMO it looked horrible to have 8 huge crosses on the skyscrapers. More classy would have been a cross on one side of one building and maybe some other image(s) on other side/bldg or just green/red colors.

BTW, Red/Green are the colors of Christmas (whereas the cross is the symbol of Christianity).

St Joseph's Old Cathedral has it's huge cross lit up every day in the skyline as do many other houses of worship; that's sufficient.

Christmas is a Christian holiday ... the cross is a symbol of Christmas ..

^^^^

That is a shame. Although the cross means different things to different people (or nothing at all), for me it was like the BC Clark jingle that you knew it was the holiday season when they appeared. It was just part of our December skyline. Guess not having it up will be the new normal. (and understandable as it is a state building now)

from the BancFirst building thread

https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=19447&page=32&p=1098438#post1098438

this building will have its back up in the future

by the above logic - a tombstone is a sign of a person's death, therefore it is a sign of their birth too?<br><br>as a Christian, I disagree with you that the Cross is a sign of Christmas. It is the sign of Easter, that Christ died for your sins (he died on a cross - its a sign of his death and resurrection); but the sign of his birth was a star and the gifts brought to him (which were decorated Green and Red and more modern Christmas tree (and outlines).

Can we stop this inane bickering to prove who knows the least about Christianity and symbols and get back to posting pretty pictures of OKC. Why does every thread have to degenerate into trying to prove who is the smartest or wisest?

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Found this on a blog page from back home. The old Philadelphia Bell Telephone Building lit up with a tree back in 1963

One that I took with my drone.
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I took this today.

I know we still have a long way to go, but the density in this photo is pretty remarkable.

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Yes and yes!

It'd be nice to see something someday on all that parking that is wrapped around the U-Haul building.

^^^ what about that massive bricktown parking lot? I was just thinking how different this pic would be if it were developed.

It'd be nice to see something someday on all that parking that is wrapped around the U-Haul building.
Why is it never in any discussion for development?

Why is it never in any discussion for development?

Stay tuned.

Stay tuned.

Oh my....

Stay tuned.

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It'd be nice to see something someday on all that parking that is wrapped around the U-Haul building.

You read my mind! That's the first thing my eye was drawn to when I looked at the picture. We need to get that developed nicely and finally the old Ford lot between the parks.

So many amazing pictures. A couple of years ago I saw an interesting picture on channel 4 that looked like it was taken from a drone above Hefner Lake. So the lake was in the foreground and it looked like Oklahoma City had two downtowns and a sea side. My suggestion for someone with a drone.

amazing difference!

by the way, OKC does have two downtowns. ...

Why is it never in any discussion for development?

I'm unsure of what Pete is referencing, but I do know that in some of the planning around turning Santa Fe Station into an intermodal transit hub has included converting the big lot to the west of U-Haul to a parking garage with a bus terminal on the bottom level. AFAIK those plans were only ever conceptual so likely not the same as what Pete knows.

Every single parking/empty lot in the core is constantly being evaluated for development.

OKC now has 2-3 dozen developers who are always, always actively looking to do more.

Often, the time is just not right and the lot between the Myriad Gardens and Scissortail Park is the perfect case in point. That is in the hands of two groups with fantastic track records and very deep pockets: Midtown Renaissance and Hall Capital. At some point -- and it may take another 10 years but probably not that long -- there will be a great development on that site.

It's not so straightforward for other properties like the old Producer's Coop or Strawberry Fields. More needs to happen in both places before the current owners can move things forward. And even with these two examples, there are lots of motivated people working on things, it just takes time and bringing in other parties and the property may even need to be sold to other entities before development of significance occurs.

It often takes years or even a decade of work behind the scenes before we see any hard movement. And even then, there will always be stops, starts and restructuring. By the time someone is ready to reveal renderings and we can actually start to visualize a project, there have been years and years of work by brokers, buyers, sellers, engineers, banks, architects, tenants and more.

Long way of saying there are tons of things going on but you won't see evidence of it until the people involved are ready.

I know I feed this impatience because I am good at finding the beginnings of movement, like a sale or rezoning. And then right away people want a project started and completed.

Every single parking/empty lot in the core is constantly being evaluated for development.

OKC now has 2-3 dozen developers who are always, always actively looking to do more.

Often, the time is just not right and the lot between the Myriad Gardens and Scissortail Park is the perfect case in point. That is in the hands of two groups with fantastic track records and very deep pockets: Midtown Renaissance and Hall Capital. At some point -- and it may take another 10 years but probably not that long -- there will be a great development on that site.

It's not so straightforward for other properties like the old Producer's Coop or Strawberry Fields. More needs to happen in both places before the current owners can move things forward. And even with these two examples, there are lots of motivated people working on things, it just takes time and bringing in other parties and the property may even need to be sold to other entities before development of significance occurs.

It often takes years or even a decade of work behind the scenes before we see any hard movement. And even then, there will always be stops, starts and restructuring. By the time someone is ready to reveal renderings and we can actually start to visualize a project, there have been years and years of work by brokers, buyers, sellers, engineers, banks, architects, tenants and more.

Long way of saying there are tons of things going on but you won't see evidence of it until the people involved are ready.

I know I feed this impatience because I am good at finding the beginnings of movement, like a sale or rezoning. And then right away people want a project started and completed.

I'm thinking of building an addition onto my home and my wife and mother (who would likely come live with us if we do the addition) are constantly on my case - bu there's just so much that goes into construction and development that people don't understand. Even if you have the resources like our city's top developers, time is ruthless - you can only do so much in a day. I'm super excited, for example, that Gary Brooks hasn't really done anything major for, what, 5 years now, while he focuses on First National. I'd rather things be done right the 1st time, especially on the most important sites. Everything within a 5 block radius of Santa Fe station should only get 2 types of development: low-investment activation (think Bleu Garten or the basketball court on the old Bob Howard lot) or the high-quality, multi-generational developments (likely) costing hundreds of millions of dollars.

First shot is from 1970; second shot was taken today.

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Wowza, what a transformation. Hopefully we can do something with those parking lots in between Myriad and Scissortail....

That photo from 1970 was at the tail-end of what was considered a big downtown boom.

Liberty Tower (now BancFirst) was newly completed, Kerr McGee Tower was under construction as was the Myriad.

Most everything else was abandoned or nearly abandoned.

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Cinco de Mayo (21 of 21) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWs2MN) by Tony Gaeddert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/gaeddert/), on Flickr

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Drone_Night_Downtown (13 of 17) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZTHNe) by Tony Gaeddert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/gaeddert/), on Flickr

Took this today and you can see the progress of the glass on BancFirst Tower:

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Cinco de Mayo (21 of 21) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWs2MN) by Tony Gaeddert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/gaeddert/), on Flickr

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Drone_Night_Downtown (13 of 17) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZTHNe) by Tony Gaeddert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/gaeddert/), on Flickr

Beautiful shots!

Question? First I noticed the nighttime skyline has changed? Did some of the towers update their exterior lights? Devon tower will they ever turn back on their night exterior lights. The first National when do they re light that crown? Thanks

Has anyone got a picture of the skyline from the turnpike in between N Rockwell and N MacArthur? Driving into the City in the morning and you can see all of NW expressway building that blend into the downtown skyline. Looks like it would be a great shot if you had the right equipment.

That is a great view of the whole city.

That is a great view of the whole city.

I think you can also see the Capitol and 50 Penn area as well. Great elevated view of the whole city skyline

Took this one tonight (Tuesday).

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Gorgeous - did the winds die down enough in the evening or is your drone just solid enough to deal with the wind?

Gorgeous - did the winds die down enough in the evening or is your drone just solid enough to deal with the wind?

The drone does pretty well unless things are crazy windy.

The key is flying into the wind, otherwise you may never get it to return! I've only had that happen once and it was a terrible feeling to try and chase it down in my car. Fortunately, it all worked out but I learned a valuable lesson.

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Cinco de Mayo (21 of 21) (https://flic.kr/p/2kWs2MN) by Tony Gaeddert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/gaeddert/), on Flickr

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Drone_Night_Downtown (13 of 17) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZTHNe) by Tony Gaeddert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/gaeddert/), on Flickr

Beautiful shots! Someone should retake the second one now that the Paycom Center is illuminated

It'll suck for parking at the park, but it'll be so nice when that parking lot on the other side of Hudson, across from the park, is developed. Fill in those big open areas.

Took this one last night:

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Looks great. Love how often you post pics. Thanks!!

curious why broadway has those dark patches. Are we really not even serious about street lighting even downtown?

Light up the darn streets for heavens sake, especially downtown!

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Beautiful! It looks like Devon’s side lights are on or is that just sky reflection?

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The Devon side-lights are just reflections.

From this angle, the renovation at BancFirst Tower really shows up well:

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The best lighting Devon has ever had, is when you can see the sunset reflection in it.

That diagonal angle looking up Harrison is the absolute best one for viewing the OKC skyline. Looks great from ground level too. Fools the eye into believing we have serious density.

we do actually, in reality too.

From this angle, the renovation at BancFirst Tower really shows up well:

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Pete I have a question for you or anyone else following this thread Why doesn't Devon light up their LED side lights anymore? The tower is just boring at night it's like the whole tower went down hill after the Window Crane incident.

Pete I have a question for you or anyone else following this thread Why doesn't Devon light up their LED side lights anymore? The tower is just boring at night it's like the whole tower went down hill after the Window Crane incident.

I don't think anyone really knows exactly... some have said the lights are broken and some say they just have no interest in turning them on. It's pretty sad and ridiculous if you ask me

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Love it!

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Those vacant lots need infill asap

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Took this one tonight:

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Love this!! Did you take lessons on how to take such great shots? Or is it more of 'learn as you go' type of process?