I have been working with JoBeth Hamon to ensure this project does not move forward.

Under 2022 Oklahoma Statutes
Title 37A. Alcoholic Beverage
§37A-2-139. Bottle club, mixed beverage or beer and wine establishment - Minimum distance from schools or churches.
It shall be unlawful for any mixed beverage establishment, beer and wine establishment or bottle club which has been licensed by the ABLE Commission and which has as its main purpose the selling or serving of alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, or package store, to be located within three hundred (300) feet of any public or private school or church property primarily and regularly used for worship services and religious activities


Legally On Cue cannot be issued an alcoholic beverage license since the charter school across the street has broken ground.

I have been working with JoBeth Hamon to ensure this project does not move forward.

Under 2022 Oklahoma Statutes
Title 37A. Alcoholic Beverage
§37A-2-139. Bottle club, mixed beverage or beer and wine establishment - Minimum distance from schools or churches.
It shall be unlawful for any mixed beverage establishment, beer and wine establishment or bottle club which has been licensed by the ABLE Commission and which has as its main purpose the selling or serving of alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, or package store, to be located within three hundred (300) feet of any public or private school or church property primarily and regularly used for worship services and religious activities


Legally On Cue cannot be issued an alcoholic beverage license since the charter school across the street has broken ground.

that is not what a gas station is ..

this project will move forward ..

I have been working with JoBeth Hamon to ensure this project does not move forward.

Under 2022 Oklahoma Statutes
Title 37A. Alcoholic Beverage
§37A-2-139. Bottle club, mixed beverage or beer and wine establishment - Minimum distance from schools or churches.
It shall be unlawful for any mixed beverage establishment, beer and wine establishment or bottle club which has been licensed by the ABLE Commission and which has as its main purpose the selling or serving of alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, or package store, to be located within three hundred (300) feet of any public or private school or church property primarily and regularly used for worship services and religious activities


Legally On Cue cannot be issued an alcoholic beverage license since the charter school across the street has broken ground.

Wait, what? Since when is a gas station a beer and wine establishment? But idlt doesn't surprise me you'd work with her, since she has proven to know very little about the law.

Look at OnCue's revenue by store, and maybe 15% will be for beer or alcohol sales. Probably less.

It isn't a package store, and you give Oklahomans a bad name for thinking so.
What a joke. And I can't wait for your challenge to fall flat on its face.

I have been working with JoBeth Hamon to ensure this project does not move forward.

Under 2022 Oklahoma Statutes
Title 37A. Alcoholic Beverage
§37A-2-139. Bottle club, mixed beverage or beer and wine establishment - Minimum distance from schools or churches.
It shall be unlawful for any mixed beverage establishment, beer and wine establishment or bottle club which has been licensed by the ABLE Commission and which has as its main purpose the selling or serving of alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, or package store, to be located within three hundred (300) feet of any public or private school or church property primarily and regularly used for worship services and religious activities


Legally On Cue cannot be issued an alcoholic beverage license since the charter school across the street has broken ground.

LMAO good luck with that

But idlt doesn't surprise me you'd work with her, since she has proven to know very little about the law.

It isn't a package store, and you give Oklahomans a bad name for thinking so.
What a joke. And I can't wait for your challenge to fall flat on its face.

yes, yes, and yes

that is not what a gas station is ..

this project will move forward ..

In Oklahoma City, a "beer and wine establishment" typically refers to a business that holds a specific license to sell beer and wine for off-premise consumption. This type of establishment can range from grocery stores and convenience stores to specialty wine and beer shops.

I have also funded an environmental impact study illustrating the health impacts to homes within 500 ft due to adverse effects due to benzene and other gas station emissions.

The primary reason that this project hasn't made progress is due to the law cited above. Secondary reasons are local pushback from residents nearby like me.

This project is terrible for the city and the residents that have to live next to this eyesore. Our neighborhood is not a thoroughfare, or some cesspool you refill your car on the way to work. People live here. We deserve walkable streets and clean air.

My money is where my mouth is...

The primary reason that this project hasn't made progress is due to the law cited above. Secondary reasons are local pushback from residents nearby like me.
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lol nope and nope

In Oklahoma City, a "beer and wine establishment" typically refers to a business that holds a specific license to sell beer and wine for off-premise consumption. This type of establishment can range from grocery stores and convenience stores to specialty wine and beer shops.

I have also funded an environmental impact study illustrating the health impacts to homes within 500 ft due to adverse effects due to benzene and other gas station emissions.

The primary reason that this project hasn't made progress is due to the law cited above. Secondary reasons are local pushback from residents nearby like me.

This project is terrible for the city and the residents that have to live next to this eyesore. Our neighborhood is not a thoroughfare, or some cesspool you refill your car on the way to work. People live here. We deserve walkable streets and clean air.

My money is where my mouth is...

And you will lose your money. Which you deserve to.

Ignorance csnt and shouldn't and won't be rewarded.

In Oklahoma City, a "beer and wine establishment" typically refers to a business that holds a specific license to sell beer and wine for off-premise consumption. This type of establishment can range from grocery stores and convenience stores to specialty wine and beer shops.

I have also funded an environmental impact study illustrating the health impacts to homes within 500 ft due to adverse effects due to benzene and other gas station emissions.

The primary reason that this project hasn't made progress is due to the law cited above. Secondary reasons are local pushback from residents nearby like me.

This project is terrible for the city and the residents that have to live next to this eyesore. Our neighborhood is not a thoroughfare, or some cesspool you refill your car on the way to work. People live here. We deserve walkable streets and clean air.

My money is where my mouth is...

LOL. Stopping a multi-million dollar investment and something the majority of people want over some bogus reasons, great work youre doing...

Also LOL at you saying Western, Classen and 13th isnt a thoroughfare when in fact they are. Or saying the neighborhood isnt some cesspool but I guess are ok with the run down 7-11 that has had multiple shootings over the last few years? Or thinking this will only be for people who are driving to work and not actually used by the thousands of downtown dwellers.

We deserve walkable streets and clean air.



The plans literally have new sidewalks around the entire property. The current sidewalk situation there is either not existing in sections or are in complete disrepair. Plus the plans will fix the weird Western "yield ramp" off Classen and force turn lane from the main intersection. Improving safety.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oncue011022b.jpg

I have been working with JoBeth Hamon to ensure this project does not move forward.

Under 2022 Oklahoma Statutes
Title 37A. Alcoholic Beverage
§37A-2-139. Bottle club, mixed beverage or beer and wine establishment - Minimum distance from schools or churches.
It shall be unlawful for any mixed beverage establishment, beer and wine establishment or bottle club which has been licensed by the ABLE Commission and which has as its main purpose the selling or serving of alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, or package store, to be located within three hundred (300) feet of any public or private school or church property primarily and regularly used for worship services and religious activities


Legally On Cue cannot be issued an alcoholic beverage license since the charter school across the street has broken ground.

Um waste your money however makes your feelings feel better but the law doesn’t apply to this.
Take 39th and Portland for example. The gas station literally shares property line with the Islamic mosque.
Not surprised JoBeth would be involved either.

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Not surprised JoBeth would be involved either.

It's in her ward, she has to be the one involved.

In Oklahoma City, a "beer and wine establishment" typically refers to a business that holds a specific license to sell beer and wine for off-premise consumption. This type of establishment can range from grocery stores and convenience stores to specialty wine and beer shops.

I have also funded an environmental impact study illustrating the health impacts to homes within 500 ft due to adverse effects due to benzene and other gas station emissions.

The primary reason that this project hasn't made progress is due to the law cited above. Secondary reasons are local pushback from residents nearby like me.

This project is terrible for the city and the residents that have to live next to this eyesore. Our neighborhood is not a thoroughfare, or some cesspool you refill your car on the way to work. People live here. We deserve walkable streets and clean air.

My money is where my mouth is...

Man, that is actually annoying enough that I will mark my calendar to vote for her opponent.
I live in the area and have been watching this thread waiting for this to get built for like six years. I know two people who have been robbed at the 7-11 down the street and have never once made it out of the valero on 10th and Penn's parking lot without being approached by panhandlers. I either make it a point to wait until I am out and about on weekends or go out of my way to go up to the On-cue on May because they do a much better job of providing a safe-feeling and clean establishment.
I hope all the money you spent comes out to nothing.

Man, that is actually annoying enough that I will mark my calendar to vote for her opponent.
I live in the area and have been watching this thread waiting for this to get built for like six years. I know two people who have been robbed at the 7-11 down the street and have never once made it out of the valero on 10th and Penn's parking lot without being approached by panhandlers. I either make it a point to wait until I am out and about on weekends or go out of my way to go up to the On-cue on May because they do a much better job of providing a safe-feeling and clean establishment.
I hope all the money you spent comes out to nothing.

Why trust some anonymous rando on the forum that she's actually doing anything at all to get this OnCue stopped?

In Oklahoma City, a "beer and wine establishment" typically refers to a business that holds a specific license to sell beer and wine for off-premise consumption. This type of establishment can range from grocery stores and convenience stores to specialty wine and beer shops.

I have also funded an environmental impact study illustrating the health impacts to homes within 500 ft due to adverse effects due to benzene and other gas station emissions.

The primary reason that this project hasn't made progress is due to the law cited above. Secondary reasons are local pushback from residents nearby like me.

This project is terrible for the city and the residents that have to live next to this eyesore. Our neighborhood is not a thoroughfare, or some cesspool you refill your car on the way to work. People live here. We deserve walkable streets and clean air.

My money is where my mouth is...


Ugh, what a NIMBY attitude. I suppose you don't care about the location of any of the other gas stations in the city? No matter where you put the gas station, it will be near someone's property....

Also, I like having an OnCue within walking distance to me - ironically, placement of the Gas Station means I use less gas. The one near me is literally across the road from a school, too.

Also, also, it looks like if they move the OnCue back 5-6ft, it would be outside 300ft from the property line of the school. (Based on me overlaying the plans on Google Maps and using the measure distance feature).

It's in her ward, she has to be the one involved.

She doesnt have to be involved any further than simply voting yes for any zoning or site plan approvals that come before the council.

She doesnt have to be involved any further than simply voting yes for any zoning or site plan approvals that come before the council.

Yeah, sorry, my post wasn't as explicit as it should've been, multitasking. I should've said "if there's anybody involved in this silliness, it would have to be her since it's her ward"

Why don’t you work with her to clean up some of the homeless encampments in the area or what’s left of the pimp/prostitution trade south of 10th before you “try” to stop a gas station that is clearly located on a thoroughfare.

Better than 50% odds that "working with JoBeth Hamon" really just means "I send her a crazy email every week" and she gets a sympathetic response email.

Better than 50% odds that "working with JoBeth Hamon" really just means "I send her a crazy email every week" and she gets a sympathetic response email.

she is anti business anti cars and in lots of ways anti okc growth .. so her being against this would be par for the course

It will still happen. it just wont sell alcoholic beverages

she is anti business anti cars and in lots of ways anti okc growth .. so her being against this would be par for the course

Also Probably the reason Crime Rates are through the roof in her ward :lol2:

It will still happen. it just wont sell alcoholic beverages

it will happen and they can sell beer

I have been working with JoBeth Hamon to ensure this project does not move forward.

Under 2022 Oklahoma Statutes
Title 37A. Alcoholic Beverage
§37A-2-139. Bottle club, mixed beverage or beer and wine establishment - Minimum distance from schools or churches.
It shall be unlawful for any mixed beverage establishment, beer and wine establishment or bottle club which has been licensed by the ABLE Commission and which has as its main purpose the selling or serving of alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, or package store, to be located within three hundred (300) feet of any public or private school or church property primarily and regularly used for worship services and religious activities


Legally On Cue cannot be issued an alcoholic beverage license since the charter school across the street has broken ground.

The only thing Mrs. Hamon has been able to keep from moving forward is the traffic on Classen in this area.

May & NW Ex:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oncue122923a.jpg

It would be ironic if QT decided to "fully" integrate into OKC and acquire all OnCue locations! I do not know if this would happen, however, name the right price $$$ and it could become reality!

It would be ironic if QT decided to "fully" integrate into OKC and acquire all OnCue locations! I do not know if this would happen, however, name the right price $$$ and it could become reality!

oncue has almost as many oklahoma locations as QT ..

QT pursuing the OKC locations, doesn't seem too far fetch. They would have little interest in the non OKC Metro locations.

However, there are some things that OnCue does better than QT, like the covered canopy, drive-thru window, fully integrated kitchen/indoor eating area with the Grill concept.

OnCue CEO Jim Griffith has been in the C-Store business a long time and is probably in his late 60's at this point, and obviously has had great success with OnCue in OKC, his daughter Laura Griffith Aufleger seems to be in line to take over operations once her dad retires as she is the current president from what I can find online.

It will be interesting to see when QT opens the two travel stops in OKC if they do significantly more business (with the local following) than places like Joplin or Shreveport QT Travel stops that are non QT C-Store markets and just have the truck stop/travel stop stores.

Personally, I love OnCue and their operation in OKC. If I visit Tulsa or travel, of course QT is at the top of the list for a gas station stop, but I don't think we are missing out on as much since OnCue has really stepped up in the past decade in OKC.

I’m not trying to make a hate on Tulsa post, but all the QTs I’ve been to Tulsa(around 4-5 of them) have been very ghetto and ran by staff with an I don’t care attitude. I have yet to see a single OnCue like this. Now the new QTs in Texas and Arizona are a different story. Very nice stores. I think Quick Trip needs to show some of its older Tulsa stores some love before their continued expansion.

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I stopped at the Sapulpa QT a few weeks ago, and unless they were undergoing a reprogram or a remodel or something of the sort it was shockingly run down and neglected feeling. Lots of missing inventory, store in disarray and felt grimy. In fairness I haven't been to other QTs lately, but if this was any indication I think I'd rather stick with OnCue, which has felt just as nice (or even better) than QT for some time, anyway.

I have noticed the staff at OnCue’s Getting more of an I don’t care attitude than they used to have. But for the most part they’re pretty good. Stores are kept up. The lots kept up. The gas is kept up.

The only thing I wish they would add and it’s not a big deal, but I wish they would have automatic sliding doors.

I have noticed the staff at OnCue’s Getting more of an I don’t care attitude than they used to have. But for the most part they’re pretty good. Stores are kept up. The lots kept up. The gas is kept up.

The only thing I wish they would add and it’s not a big deal, but I wish they would have automatic sliding doors.

Some do have automatic sliding doors. I stop in at OnCue almost daily and I haven't noticed any negative attitudes. In fact, I was just telling my wife the other day how pleasant overall OnCue employees are during the day.

I was in the Gainesville QT last week and they had completely rearranged the store into a spiral maze.... Not sure if it was to try and encourage more impulse buying or reducing inventory shrink but it wasn't enjoyable to navigate.

Some do have automatic sliding doors. I stop in at OnCue almost daily and I haven't noticed any negative attitudes. In fact, I was just telling my wife the other day how pleasant overall OnCue employees are during the day.
I wouldn’t go as far as to say any of the employees at OnCue have negative attitudes. They just don’t seem to be as attentive or friendly as they used to be when they first started expanding pretty quickly.

I visit the OnCue at S 44th and Shields every other week. I have always found the employees there to be super friendly.

I lived in Tulsa from 1988 - 1998 and lived at QT (stopped by about once a day). When I go back now, they remind me of how 7-11's were here in OKC when I moved here for college in 1999.

I think OnCue has the advantage of serving one metro area (not counting the one store in Houston and the handful of rural Oklahoma locations) and most of their stores are less than 10 years old. They can pivot quickly on implementing changes across the brand. They also have the advantage of knowing the mistakes other C-Stores made in the past before building the bulk of their stores in OKC. 7-11 is building new stores in OKC, but many of the smaller Brown family corner stores still remain.

When compared to QT or even 7-11, they are much bigger chains to implement brand-wide updates and consistency across stores. QuikTrip is still replacing Generation 2 stores in Tulsa with Generation 3 which was introduced back in 2011!
OnCue matches a lot of the Generation 3 layout of QuikTrip, but has some strong advantages like touchless and much bigger restrooms on the same side of the store, double door and/or automatic door main entrances, lots of egress around entrances.

If you have seen the movie "The Founder", I imagine QuikTrip, 7-11, OnCue, and others all have store mock ups and are consistently trying the best may to move product and people efficiently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xh61G6IkwY

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I stopped at the Sapulpa QT a few weeks ago, and unless they were undergoing a reprogram or a remodel or something of the sort it was shockingly run down and neglected feeling. Lots of missing inventory, store in disarray and felt grimy. In fairness I haven't been to other QTs lately, but if this was any indication I think I'd rather stick with OnCue, which has felt just as nice (or even better) than QT for some time, anyway.

i think quality is sometimes hard to maintain when you have 900 stores vs 90

i think quality is sometimes hard to maintain when you have 900 stores vs 90

On top of that QuickTrip does franchising, where it looks like OnCue may not. If that is the case, then OnCue would have direct control on how staffing, stocking, cleaning, and other things go. Where QuickTrip probably has to deal with hundreds of individual owners, which probably have decent amounts of control in how they manage their locations.

On top of that QuickTrip does franchising, where it looks like OnCue may not. If that is the case, then OnCue would have direct control on how staffing, stocking, cleaning, and other things go. Where QuickTrip probably has to deal with hundreds of individual owners, which probably have decent amounts of control in how they manage their locations.

I have never heard that QuikTrip does franchising. There are some websites out there that do say they franchise but I wouldn't trust websites as they misspell QuikTrip as "QuickTrip". Further, the QT website doesn't mention franchising.

I have never heard that QuikTrip does franchising. There are some websites out there that do say they franchise but I wouldn't trust websites as they misspell QuikTrip as "QuickTrip". Further, the QT website doesn't mention franchising.

yep they do NOT franchise

The OnCue at NW 10th & Czech Hall appears to be in the process of adding a kitchen.

The steel is up and tanks have been delivered for the location at May/NW Expressway.

I ordered a few items from the Oncue grill for the first time a couple of days ago. Fried pickle spears are a game changer!

On top of that QuickTrip does franchising, where it looks like OnCue may not. If that is the case, then OnCue would have direct control on how staffing, stocking, cleaning, and other things go. Where QuickTrip probably has to deal with hundreds of individual owners, which probably have decent amounts of control in how they manage their locations.

QT does not franchise and is a private company. All stores are owned by the Cadieux family.

QT does not franchise and is a private company. All stores are owned by the Cadieux family.

Maybe they are confusing the property. I know at least some QT properties are owned by others and leased back to QT.

Maybe they are confusing the property. I know at least some QT properties are owned by others and leased back to QT.

But that arrangement should have nothing to do with the conditions of the store

NW Ex & May:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oncue013024a.jpg

On the Yukon City forum, It was stated that Oncue is building it's largest store in the state at Frisco Rd and I-40 (southeast corner), which is in Yukon city limits proper.

For some reason they just refiled their building permit application for NW 13th & Western.

Looks like they are gearing up to finally start. I suspect the delay has been due to coordination with the City regarding reworking that intersection.

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very nice and much needed for the area

I understand this is a very standard layout for OnCue, but it would have been nice for them to put the fuel pumps to the rear in this location specifically

It’s a lot better for the houses directly to the west of this location for them to use the standard store layout here, IMO.

I don't think I realized the Western between 13th and the alley to the south would be closed, but I like it. I talked to someone on the planning commission and they said their biggest issue with this originally was the amount of curb cuts. The amount on this seems to make more sense in this matter.

Whoo! Every time I see an update to this thread I cross my fingers and pray that it's news about the 13th and Classen location and it finally came true haha.

Whoo! Every time I see an update to this thread I cross my fingers and pray that it's news about the 13th and Classen location and it finally came true haha.

I am very excited, this part of town is crying out for a convenience store that doesn’t suck. I am always floored by how busy the 23rd & Santa Fe OnCue stays at all times of the day and would expect the same here as well.

OnCue could easily build another on the east side of Classen somewhere around 30th.

That 7 Eleven at 31st stays very busy even though it is complete crap.

OnCue could easily build another on the east side of Classen somewhere around 30th.

That 7 Eleven at 31st stays very busy even though it is complete crap.

Or anywhere on Lincoln from Reno to I-44.

Speaking of where there should be gas stations….i feel like there needs to be something near the airport. Returning a rental car last weekend and I found it interesting there isn’t a decent gas station easily accessible to the rental car return.

Or anywhere on Lincoln from Reno to I-44.

From your lips to God’s ears!