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Pete
06-14-2023, 06:57 AM
They seem to do one at a time these days.

gjl
06-14-2023, 09:59 AM
Any idea what the average cost to build one is excluding the land as that probably varies widely depending on location.

bchandler02
07-06-2023, 01:23 PM
You can pay in the Fuel Forward app with Apple Pay and get 5 cents off per gallon. The app is probably on Android as well.

Except their stupid app doesn't like my Citi Mastercard that I use, so that's out. I refuse to link apps to my bank account.

Tap to pay isn't hard, many places do it, OnCue even used to do it. That tells me it is likely a $$ driven decision, not a technology limitation. Sad.

Pete
07-06-2023, 01:25 PM
SW 104th & Porland opened today.

Zuplar
07-06-2023, 02:40 PM
Except their stupid app doesn't like my Citi Mastercard that I use, so that's out. I refuse to link apps to my bank account.

Tap to pay isn't hard, many places do it, OnCue even used to do it. That tells me it is likely a $$ driven decision, not a technology limitation. Sad.

They've told me it's a fraud related problem. Not sure that I buy that excuse considering my knowledge in the payments industry, but that's what I've been told when I've ran into locations with it "disabled."

Zuplar
07-06-2023, 02:41 PM
SW 104th & May opened today.

Do you mean SW 104th & Portland?

Pete
07-06-2023, 03:03 PM
Do you mean SW 104th & Portland?

Yes, thanks. I correct my post.

Celebrator
07-06-2023, 03:12 PM
SW 104th & Porland opened today.

Does that mean the one on United Founders is next? Hoping so.

Pete
07-06-2023, 03:15 PM
Does that mean the one on United Founders is next? Hoping so.

Hasn't been any movement since clearing the parking lots, as you know.

They have a bunch in the queue including NW 13th & Classen, NW 178th & Portland, SE 15th & I-35, and I-35 and S. Grand.

progressiveboy
07-06-2023, 03:15 PM
It will be nice once they start work on the UF store. Also, wondering when they will be starting the one on 13th and Western?

Pete
07-06-2023, 03:18 PM
I suspect they've slowed their roll because of the incredibly tight job market.

Not just in general, but in just the last several years we've literally had hundreds of new OnCue, 7-11, Casey's, eExpress and QT is now hiring in Moore.

I know 7-11 has been having fits.

floyd the barber
07-09-2023, 09:18 AM
I suspect they've slowed their roll because of the incredibly tight job market.

Not just in general, but in just the last several years we've literally had hundreds of new OnCue, 7-11, Casey's, eExpress and QT is now hiring in Moore.

I know 7-11 has been having fits.

This state has more convenience stores than any other state I have ever lived in. And I have lived in some big cities.

I guess the demand is there.

scottk
07-09-2023, 09:38 AM
This state has more convenience stores than any other state I have ever lived in. And I have lived in some big cities.

I guess the demand is there.

Our three "big players" are all relatively new to the market, and I think all trying to outdo each other in regards to expansion and having the best location. Given the car centered culture of the OKC Metro and how spread out we really are, C-Stores are easy to build with very little pushback. Not unique to OKC, but all three listed below are trying to also go above and beyond in what the store offers. Things like 7-11's Lardeo Taco, Oncue's The Grill, and Casey's Pizza are competing for non-traditional C-store revenue.

-OnCue came in to the OKC market fill the QuikTrip not in OKC void in about 2009, but has expanded rapidly in the last few years.
-7-11 while established by the Brown Family, sold to the 7-11 Corporation in Dallas in early 2020, and since taking over they have been busy building new stores.
-Caseys bought out the CircleK stores in spring 2021, but also has been expanding with newly built stores across OKC.

Jeepnokc
07-09-2023, 09:45 AM
Stopped by the new store at SW104th/Portland. Seems larger than the other ones I have been in. They took what I call the wing area (The areas that is behind the grill on one side and behind the walk in and bathrooms on the other) and added seating to one side and made the other side an automotive area. Store has the new quick checkout registers

gjl
07-09-2023, 10:08 AM
I was in 3 different QTs in Tulsa last weekend and I will say that OnCue has them beat hands down on bathroom facilities. I was really surprised as all I've heard is how great QYs are.

floyd the barber
07-09-2023, 01:09 PM
I was in 3 different QTs in Tulsa last weekend and I will say that OnCue has them beat hands down on bathroom facilities. I was really surprised as all I've heard is how great QYs are.

The founder of OnCue publically said that his stores are a rip-off of QT. He took the framework of QT and built upon it.

I think people appreciate QT because they were pioneers in the c-store scene. There would be no OnCues, like this, if it wasn't for QT.

But yeah there are some shoddy QTs in Tulsa. Really bad ones. They seem to be more focused on their next stage models and have left the older stores in the process. It's probably not easy to manage 500+ locations.

scottk
07-09-2023, 01:16 PM
The founder of OnCue publically said that his stores are a rip-off of QT. He took the framework of QT and built upon it.

I think people appreciate QT because they were pioneers in the c-store scene. There would be no OnCues, like this, if it wasn't for QT.

But yeah there are some shoddy QTs in Tulsa. Really bad ones. They seem to be more focused on their next stage models and have left the older stores in the process. It's probably not easy to manage 500+ locations.

Yup, OnCue can almost exclusively focus on OKC and all of there OKC stores are relatively new, with the first stores in the market maybe only 10-13 years old.

QT still has a lot of the Gen 2 stores in play in multiple markets they serve. They are aggressively working to update/replace them, but like you mentioned, with so many locations, it takes time.

OnCue has great restrooms that are completely touch less and large. QuikTrip still has full doors and awkward entrances to the restrooms in their current Gen3 stores. Men's and Women's are on complete opposite sides and the ones I have been in there is an entrance/exit door directly adjacent to coming in and out of the rest room door.

gjl
07-09-2023, 01:34 PM
I don't know how old or new the QTs were that I was in were but they were pretty large. As large as any OnCue. They were on the far east side of Tulsa around the Hard Rock so Catoosa area. I will drive past multiple convenience stores and gas stations to find an OnCue if I gave to go. Never been disappointed in the size or cleanliness of an OnCue bathroom. I buy all my gas there too. I can't remember the last time I was even in a 7-11. probably when the opened the new one on NW Highway and MacArthur just because it was new to check it out, and probably years before that before going in any other one. The few Casey's I've been in have never impressed me either and they have all been remodeled ones too.

Jeepnokc
07-09-2023, 07:26 PM
My daughter had a flat this evening and pulled into the new On Cue at 104/Portland. By the time I got there, Jeremy who was working the drive thru was out helping and said he could just plug it as there was a clear hole where the nail was. I bought a plug set and he plugged it while showing me how in case I ever needed to. All fixed and I didn't have to change tire. (I have roadside but test driving brother's jeep thinking of buying it for daughter). Kudos to Jeremy and the On Cue staff.

djohn
07-10-2023, 07:13 AM
Except their stupid app doesn't like my Citi Mastercard that I use, so that's out. I refuse to link apps to my bank account.

Tap to pay isn't hard, many places do it, OnCue even used to do it. That tells me it is likely a $$ driven decision, not a technology limitation. Sad.

Tap to pay (via card) is working now (within the last month or so) at 178th and Western.

gjl
07-10-2023, 01:45 PM
I was just at OnCue on 39th and Portland and saw they now have recycle bins at each pump for plastic bottles and cans.

HangryHippo
07-10-2023, 02:42 PM
I was just at OnCue on 39th and Portland and saw they now have recycle bins at each pump for plastic bottles and cans.

I love that. If they could add that and the tap readers back to all their locations, I’d be in business.

scottk
07-10-2023, 08:50 PM
I love that. If they could add that and the tap readers back to all their locations, I’d be in business.

I frequent the ones on the NW side of OKC, and they all have brought "tap to pay" back at the pump.

HangryHippo
07-10-2023, 09:56 PM
I frequent the ones on the NW side of OKC, and they all have brought "tap to pay" back at the pump.

I’ve been on the west side a lot lately and none of them have it. I hope the future Western and 13th store has it.

warreng88
07-14-2023, 03:01 PM
Ok question for anyone that can answer. I have looked back at the first six pages of this thread and couldn't find an answer. Which On Cue was the first one? I thought it was the one on Wilshire and NW Expressway, but I am starting to think that is incorrect.

Pete
07-14-2023, 03:04 PM
They use a numbering system and even though this isn't completely sequential, it's close:

100 5900 W Reno Ave
101 1 NW 23rd St
102 1610 S Air Depot Blvd
103 5920 S Western Ave
104 1900 E Memorial Rd
105 800 S Broadway
106 2917 S Douglas Blvd
107 5500 Southeast 29th Street
108 6200 N.W. Expressway
109 9000 S Pennsylvania Ave
110 7101 NW 39th Expressway
111 3601 N Flood Ave
112 13600 N Western Ave
113 4413 S. Shields
114 15035 N May Ave
115 3201 S Kelly Ave
116 3901 N.W. Expressway
117 7400 S. Sooner
118 411 Southwest 4th Street
119 2837 NW 36th
120 4100 E. 15th
121 SW 119th & I-44
122 Czech Hall & I-40
123 10800 N. May Ave.
124 900 East State Highway 152
125 NW 10th & Portland
126 300 S. Council
127 7000 S. May
128 2301 N. Douglas
129 5251 E. Waterloo Rd.
130 10000 W 66 Highway
131 1600 Richmond Square
132 5 SW 104th ST
133 17801 N. Western
134 NW 164th * Portland
135 9801 NW Expressway
136 1534 SE Grand
137 1530 S. Mustang Rd.
138 NWC 24th & Lindsey
139 Classen & Highway 9
140 SEC 39th & Portland
141 SWC 13th & Western
143 820 S. Meridian

HangryHippo
07-14-2023, 03:39 PM
I’m hoping 141 gets rolling soon!

Roger S
07-14-2023, 04:26 PM
Pretty sure the first to open was Store 103

gjl
07-14-2023, 06:26 PM
143, 820 S. Meridian is one that surprised me. Driving down Meridian a few days ago, saw it and thought when did that happen.

baralheia
07-14-2023, 07:25 PM
Pretty sure the first to open was Store 103

I'm 95% sure 103 (at SW 59th and S Western) was the first OnCue to open in OKC.

gjl
07-14-2023, 10:32 PM
I'm 95% sure 103 (at SW 59th and S Western) was the first OnCue to open in OKC.

What year was that? I know for the longest time I never went to one because all I ever saw on their signs was prices for E10 and diesel so I assumed they didn't have 100% gas which was all I used. Then a friend told me they sold both and from that time on that's the only place I buy gas.

Roger S
07-16-2023, 10:38 AM
What year was that?

I believe construction started on it in 2006.

scottk
07-16-2023, 02:24 PM
I believe construction started on it in 2006.

Yes, opened in 2006.

"But Oklahoma City appeals to another local chain, OnCue Express, which built its first store in Oklahoma City in 2006"

https://journalrecord.com/2010/08/04/fact-or-urban-legend-general-news/

gjl
07-16-2023, 05:52 PM
I had no idea they have been here that long. The first one I ever went to was on 39th and Rockwell and it had been there for a while before I ever bought gas there. Thinking maybe 2015 or around that time. Looking at OK County Assessor pics it wasn't there in 01/2012 (dirt work) and was there in 08/2014 (completed and open). There was no 2013 pic.

mugofbeer
07-16-2023, 10:59 PM
What year was that? I know for the longest time I never went to one because all I ever saw on their signs was prices for E10 and diesel so I assumed they didn't have 100% gas which was all I used. Then a friend told me they sold both and from that time on that's the only place I buy gas.

I ask this in sincerety because l am ignorant on the subject but why do you buy only 100% gas? I understand there may be a benefit if you have and old vehicle but any car of recent years is built to use ethanol mixes.

gjl
07-16-2023, 11:16 PM
Better fuel mileage especially if the vehicle is Flex Fuel. There is less BTU energy content in ethanol than gasoline. You have to burn (inject) more volume of fuel with ethanol to get the same power output. That's what FF vehicles do. They run at a richer stoich air/fuel ratio in closed loop fueling depending on the alcohol content (inject more fuel). Stoich A/F for 100% gas is 14.7:1, for E10 is 14.1:1 and for E85 is 9.1:1. Don't know if you understand A/F ratios but the ratio is the parts air/parts fuel. If the vehicle is non flex it will be down on power on E10 because the BTU content is less than 100% gas. I also have a few performance vehicles (Camaros) that require 91 Octane and just prefer 100% 91 for those cars. The only E OnCue sells is E10 and E85. All their higher octane fuel is 100%. There is obviously a demand for it or tit wouldn't be available at so many stations.

soonergolfer
07-16-2023, 11:40 PM
I just bought a new Audi suv and it recommends 91 premium and 87 octane at the minimum.

gjl
07-16-2023, 11:57 PM
I just bought a new Audi suv and it recommends 91 premium and 87 octane at the minimum.

Vehicles have knock sensors that detect spark knock (detonation) usually caused by too low octane fuel. The more knock they detect over time the computer will start lowering the ignition timing to try and prevent knock. Less ignition timing will reduce power. Mfgs have been raising compression ratios on engines and switching to direct injection (injecting the fuel directly into the combustion chamber like a diesel) in an attempt to improve fuel mileage while maintaining power output. The higher compression ratios require higher octane. Octane is basically resistance to detonation. Detonation over time will damage the engine.

NavySeabee
07-17-2023, 04:55 AM
I'm 95% sure 103 (at SW 59th and S Western) was the first OnCue to open in OKC.

I think 15th and Air Depot was 1st in the metro as they started in Stillwater. 59th and Penn and Reno and MacArthur were 2nd and 3rd. If I remember right there was a big discussion on here as OnCue bought the church that used be across the street out from under 7-11 the day the church was supposed to sell to 7-11.

Jersey Boss
07-17-2023, 08:22 AM
I think 15th and Air Depot was 1st in the metro as they started in Stillwater. 59th and Penn and Reno and MacArthur were 2nd and 3rd. If I remember right there was a big discussion on here as OnCue bought the church that used be across the street out from under 7-11 the day the church was supposed to sell to 7-11.

If they do it sequentially store #99 is located in Norman at Classen and Lindsey.

gjl
07-17-2023, 08:33 AM
County Assessor pic from Sept 8 2006 shows construction workers working on the almost completed OnCue at 5900 W Reno and year built 2006. 1620 S Air Depot says year built 2007. No pic from 2006, just 2007 shows completed and open. 5920 S Western pic dated Sept 20 2006 shows just dirt work and year built 2007.

SEMIweather
07-17-2023, 08:46 AM
If they do it sequentially store #99 is located in Norman at Classen and Lindsey.

Looking at Google Maps, this station used to be a Conoco before being renovated and turning into a OnCue/Phillips 66 back in 2016 or so. It is somewhat of an "odd duck" for their OKC Metro locations, as this one emphasizes the Phillips 66 branding over the OnCue branding (similar to their locations in Stillwater and other small cities in North Central Oklahoma), while I believe every other location in the OKC Metro emphasizes the OnCue branding over the Phillips 66 branding.

gjl
07-17-2023, 08:57 AM
All the OnCues I go to in the OKC Metro have the Phillip 66 Top Tier Gas branding.

SEMIweather
07-17-2023, 09:10 AM
All the OnCues I go to in the OKC Metro have the Phillip 66 Top Tier Gas branding.

They all do, but I'm talking about the branding on the signs. OnCue is emphasized for all of the OKC Metro locations (save for that one Norman location), while Phillips 66 is emphasized for all of the locations outside of the OKC Metro (including the one location in Houston).

These are the 27 locations that emphasize the Phillips 66 branding over the OnCue branding:

3 - Lakeview/Boomer (Stillwater)
4 - Hall of Fame/Duck (Stillwater)
5 - 6th/Perkins (Stillwater)
6 - McElroy/Perkins (Stillwater)
7 - 19th/Sangre (Stillwater)
8 - 6th/Country Club (Stillwater)
9 - 6th/Wicklow (Stillwater)
10 - 6th/Jardot (Stillwater)
11 - Richmond/Washington (Stillwater)
14 - 14th/Perkins (Stillwater)
16 - Waverly/South (Ponca City)
17 - 14th/Shirlee (Ponca City)
26 - Owen K Garriott/10th (Enid)
27 - Van Buren/Moore (Enid)
28 - Willow/Oakwood (Enid)
40 - Adams/Cherokee (Bartlesville)
45 - Acre/I-35 (Billings)
47 - 1st/Dewey (Chandler)
49 - Broadway/Kiowa (Cleveland)
61 - SH-77/I-35 (Perry)
63 - Main/2nd (Stroud)
99 - Lindsey/Classen (Norman)
201 - Westheimer/TX-8 (Houston)
4101 - Main/Kenworthy (Perkins)
4103 - SH-66/Hayes (Wellston)
4105 - US-177/US-64 (Morrison)
4106 - 8th Ave/7th St (Stroud)

gjl
07-17-2023, 09:42 AM
Google Map has that Norman location labeled as OnCue Express #xx and not saying I looked al all the metro locations but the other metro locations I did look at were just labeled OnCue #xxx. Not sure what the difference is. I looked at their sign on street view and see what you are talking about on the sign.

SEMIweather
07-17-2023, 10:35 AM
Google Map has that Norman location labeled as OnCue Express #xx and not saying I looked al all the metro locations but the other metro locations I did look at were just labeled OnCue #xxx. Not sure what the difference is. I looked at their sign on street view and see what you are talking about on the sign.

Yes, all the ones with #1xx (the locations Pete posted previously) emphasize OnCue on the sign and all the other ones emphasize Phillips 66 on the sign.

gjl
07-17-2023, 01:43 PM
I found this on the Google:

Who owns OnCue Express?
Made in Oklahoma: OnCue Express
Background: Jim Griffith said he bought his dad's company, Griffith Petroleum, in 1990 because he liked everything about the business. In 2004, Griffith Petroleum merged with Shaw's Gulf to create OnCue Express.

Back in 1975-1976 when I was living in Stillwater I had a friend who drove a gasoline transport truck for a guy in Stillwater named Rusty Shaw. I would occasionally ride with him on deliveries. He would leave Stillwater, drive to Ponca City and fill up the tanker, then deliver to various stations around the Stillwater area and even some in OKC. What I learned about gasoline then was that no matter what brand he was delivering all the gasoline was the same. What made each brand different was he would flip different levers at the depot and it would add different additives depending on the brand. Shaw Gulf has to be the same person. There was even a Gulf Station just as you cam into Stillwater next to the Holiday Inn called Bob's Holliday Gulf. I worked there as did my friend who eventually went on to drive the tanker truck. Pretty sure that is how he knew Rusty Shaw.

Bunty
07-21-2023, 12:52 AM
Fast forward to the year 2023 and Jim Griffith is now age 70. So, I wonder if he has retired from his company and now let's somebody else worry about current operations.

Pete
07-31-2023, 09:30 AM
I didn't realize that OnCue purchased this building at 409 NE 28th near the state capitol some time ago. Plans call it the "OnCue Annex".

Don't know if they occupy the whole thing but they do have marketing offices located there, as well as offices in Stillwater.

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oncue073123a.jpg

warreng88
07-31-2023, 10:38 AM
They have a building out on Meridian as well. I assume that one is a warehouse for everything that goes to the OKC area.

scottk
07-31-2023, 05:56 PM
Fast forward to the year 2023 and Jim Griffith is now age 70. So, I wonder if he has retired from his company and now let's somebody else worry about current operations.

It would makes sense to pass the company off to his daughter, Laura Griffith Aufleger, who is the current President of OnCue.

https://oncueexpress.com/laura-griffith-aufleger-cstore-decisions-40-under-40-leaders-to-watch/

soonergolfer
08-15-2023, 08:01 AM
There were some trucks on the May-NW Exp location yesterday. It looked like they were starting work on the ingress egress to Founders Blvd.

josefromtulsa
08-17-2023, 03:58 PM
There were some trucks on the May-NW Exp location yesterday. It looked like they were starting work on the ingress egress to Founders Blvd.

Apparently the city is looking at rebuilding that intersection. Im hearing either DDI or double roundabout. Should be interesting to see. Traffic counts are similiar to the NW Expressway and Rockwell.

Pete
08-18-2023, 03:37 PM
Apparently the city is looking at rebuilding that intersection. Im hearing either DDI or double roundabout. Should be interesting to see. Traffic counts are similiar to the NW Expressway and Rockwell.

They will just be installing a new May Ave. bridge over NW Expressway.


Some movement here:

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oncue081823a.jpg

April in the Plaza
09-01-2023, 01:55 PM
The location at N. May and NW 36th has converted several ingress/egress doors to Emergency Exits Only.

Crime must be simply off the charts at that store. Haven’t seen that measure taken at any other.

TornadoKegan
09-03-2023, 08:37 PM
Yeah it is crime filled, within the I-44- I-240 Bryant Ave Area Forget about safety. i don't go anywhere near unless it is necessary. or i want dave and busters, even then i might just travel 3 hours to Frisco.

chssooner
09-03-2023, 09:32 PM
Yeah it is crime filled, within the I-44- I-240 Bryant Ave Area Forget about safety. i don't go anywhere near unless it is necessary. or i want dave and busters, even then i might just travel 3 hours to Frisco.

What are you on about?

Anonymous.
09-05-2023, 03:56 PM
Got to be satire. Avoiding a 50 square mile area of the city unless you are going to Dave & Busters?

GoGators
09-05-2023, 04:06 PM
The location at N. May and NW 36th has converted several ingress/egress doors to Emergency Exits Only.

Crime must be simply off the charts at that store. Haven’t seen that measure taken at any other.

They did the same thing to the store on Meridian and Highline.

Pete
09-12-2023, 05:11 PM
Here comes another OnCue, this time on the SE corner of NE 63rd and Kelly.

They recently bought the property and just applied to demo the old Petro station and vacant building to the north.

That's an eExpress on the SW corner... Wonder if they will up their game as they have done in other locations. That store is pretty dumpy and OnCue will destroy them if they don't do a big upgrade.

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/oncue091223b.jpg