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Bellaboo
08-25-2012, 11:05 AM
It is a fact that the face value of every regular OU home football ticket is the same regardless of location.

Students do receive a discount. The donations required for better seating is kept separate. People who buy OU season tickets receive a small discount from face value.

There is the STEP program that requires a yearly donation for premium seats.
OU also has the Sooner club. The Sooner club determines the priority for OU Texas, road, and Bowl game tickets. There are other perks such as priority parking and free merchandise.

The Sooner club just broke an all-time record donation level. The Sooner club provides OU with a constant stream of revenue from many different people, over 10,000. Over a 10, 20, 30 year period this is a tremendous amount of money and it helps separates OU from the majority of other athletic programs. The Sooner Club is on top of the in-kind one time donations that usually go toward specific projects.

This is the university endowments (in billions) from 2005 through 2011 - This shows where OU stacks up at the university level where it really counts - we really don't measure up.

University of North Carolina $1.486[1] $1.149[2] $2.164[3] $2.359[4] $1.905[5] $1.979[6] $2.261[7]
University of Notre Dame $3.650[1] $4.437[2] $5.977[3] $6.226[4] $4.795[5] $5.235[6] $6.260[7]
University of Oklahoma $0.777[1] $0.960[2] $1.114[3] $1.155[4] $0.848[5] $0.968[6] $1.212[7]
University of Pennsylvania $4.370[1] $5.313[2] $6.635[3] $6.233[4] $5.171[5] $5.669[6] $6.582[7]
University of Pittsburgh $1.530[1] $1.803[2] $2.254[3] $2.334[4] $1.837[5] $2.033[6] $2.527[7]

Sorry, tried to line it up, but couldn't.

ou48A
08-25-2012, 12:35 PM
This is the university endowments (in billions) from 2005 through 2011 - This shows where OU stacks up at the university level where it really counts - we really don't measure up.

University of North Carolina $1.486[1] $1.149[2] $2.164[3] $2.359[4] $1.905[5] $1.979[6] $2.261[7]
University of Notre Dame $3.650[1] $4.437[2] $5.977[3] $6.226[4] $4.795[5] $5.235[6] $6.260[7]
University of Oklahoma $0.777[1] $0.960[2] $1.114[3] $1.155[4] $0.848[5] $0.968[6] $1.212[7]
University of Pennsylvania $4.370[1] $5.313[2] $6.635[3] $6.233[4] $5.171[5] $5.669[6] $6.582[7]
University of Pittsburgh $1.530[1] $1.803[2] $2.254[3] $2.334[4] $1.837[5] $2.033[6] $2.527[7]

Sorry, tried to line it up, but couldn't.

That’s^ an entirely different discussion.

But the latest figures I have seen show OU’s university endowment well north of one billion dollars with OU receiving record levels of donations.

OU has come a long ways since its third tier rating days but the mind set was slow to ajust. 10 years ago many OU people including one very intelligent poster on this board thought the very idea of a billion dollar OU endowment was nuts.

IMO OU people need to be thinking of something on order of a 5 billion dollar endowment in today’s dollars…. In time it can be done.

If the current level of giving is continued, and the research grows at current rates then sometime in the next 10 to 15 years OU should be able to make then next big academic jump to AAU membership. OU already has a plan in place to make AAU membership happen. Better state funding for both OU & OSU is needed IMHO.

Snowman
08-25-2012, 01:01 PM
It is a fact that the face value of every regular OU home football ticket is the same regardless of location.

Students do receive a discount. The donations required for better seating is kept separate. People who buy OU season tickets receive a small discount from face value.

There is the STEP program that requires a yearly donation for premium seats.
OU also has the Sooner club. The Sooner club determines the priority for OU Texas, road, and Bowl game tickets. There are other perks such as priority parking and free merchandise.

The Sooner club just broke an all-time record donation level. The Sooner club provides OU with a constant stream of revenue from many different people, over 10,000. Over a 10, 20, 30 year period this is a tremendous amount of money and it helps separates OU from the majority of other athletic programs. The Sooner Club is on top of the in-kind one time donations that usually go toward specific projects.

Face value of the ticket hardly means anything if you can not buy it for that alone and are instead getting a ticket with a yearly donation that you would not have been making otherwise.

ou48A
08-25-2012, 02:12 PM
Face value of the ticket hardly means anything if you can not buy it for that alone and are instead getting a ticket with a yearly donation that you would not have been making otherwise.

Not 100% sure but I believe OU does it this way for accounting reasons. The donation component is tax deductible so it does make a difference in that way.
The face value is the price paid by single game ticket purchasers, regardless of location.

ljbab728
08-25-2012, 08:27 PM
Not 100% sure but I believe OU does it this way for accounting reasons. The donation component is tax deductible so it does make a difference in that way.
The face value is the price paid by single game ticket purchasers, regardless of location.

I always receive a statement from the university showing my donations to be used for tax purposes. You are correct.

bluedogok
08-25-2012, 09:16 PM
Yes, all OU tickets have a common face value and I think the "season ticket price" is the same no matter location, donations or discounts are applied to the ticket holders account. My father doesn't have a donation tied to his tickets, he just buys a (pair of) straight season tickets, he initially got them in the Sooner Saver campaign during the Blake years. Except for the taxable status of a "donation" it is really no different than the PSL's (Personal Seat Licenses) that most professional teams use in the newer stadiums, you are paying for a right to a seat. I know the PSL's for Cowboys Stadium and the new Circuit of the Americas is pretty steep, the Cowboys tickets went up a bunch with the move to the new stadium. We actually considered getting season tickets before the move and then found out what the prices were going to be, pretty happy that we didn't. A co-worker has had Broncos season tickets forever, he pays a little above 3,000 for a pair of them but has no PSL but they do have many different pricing tiers at Mile High.

BoulderSooner
08-27-2012, 07:38 AM
I always receive a statement from the university showing my donations to be used for tax purposes. You are correct.

donations are 80% deduct able

ou48A
08-28-2012, 11:51 AM
I also receive a statement each showing my donations.
FYI....A hand full of elected politicians has stated that they would like to end this tax deduction.

ou48A
08-28-2012, 02:10 PM
- This shows where OU stacks up at the university level where it really counts - we really don't measure up.



The University of Oklahoma is classified by the Carnegie Foundation as a Very High Research institution, placing it in the highest tier of research universities in the nation.

This designation is one of the most important measures that distinguish among institutions of higher education.
OU is the only Very High Research university in the state

Bellaboo
08-28-2012, 03:34 PM
Even though this has nothing to do with the thread title, you can find all kinds of rankings out there - such as below.

U.S.News ranking list for best colleges. The University of Tulsa is ranked at #57, while OU is tied with several others at # 101. The Carnegie List you provided was on research 'activity', whatever that is.

Like it says, you can find all kinds of stuff out there. We came in on page 11.......way down the list.

2012 College Rankings List - U.S. News University Directory
Browse the 2012 College Rankings list below or search for a top ranked on-campus or online college program that specializes in your area of interest.

Top ranked national universities, such as Princeton and MIT, offer a wide variety of majors and award bachelor's, master's and doctoral degrees. Many of these universities also produce groundbreaking research in one or more fields. Browse the 2012 college rankings list below for top school rankings or select a specific ranking category from the list on the left.




National Universities Tier 1 | Tier 2 | Unranked
RANKED 101 Florida State UniversityTallahassee, FL Total undergraduates: 31,418 Total full-time undergraduates: 28,006
RANKED 101 North Carolina State University--RaleighRaleigh, NC Total undergraduates: 25,246 Total full-time undergraduates: 21,974
RANKED 101 University of DaytonDayton, OH Total undergraduates: 7,734 Total full-time undergraduates: 7,129
RANKED 101 University of KansasLawrence, KS Total undergraduates: 20,343 Total full-time undergraduates: 18,137
RANKED 101 University of Nebraska--LincolnLincoln, NE Total undergraduates: 19,383 Total full-time undergraduates: 18,129
RANKED 101 University of New HampshireDurham, NH Total undergraduates: 12,485 Total full-time undergraduates: 11,895
RANKED 101 University of OklahomaNorman, OK Total undergraduates: 20,892 Total full-time undergraduates: 18,063
RANKED 101 University of OregonEugene, OR Total undergraduates: 19,528 Total full-time undergraduates: 17,798
RANKED 101 University of TennesseeKnoxville, TN Total undergraduates: 21,393 Total full-time undergraduates: 20,122
RANKED 101 University of the PacificStockton, CA Total undergraduates: 3,757 Total full-time undergraduates: 3,654
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ou48A
08-28-2012, 04:15 PM
OU has a goal to be an AAU member.

There is no hope of being an AAU member unless you have made the list of Very High Research institution as defined by the Carnegie Foundation.

Being included in the highest tier of research universities in the nation is an extremely important achievement for OU and also for th state. The only thing bigger for OU would be AAU membership.
In the world of academia it’s far more important than the US News & World Report rankings, so I am told.


The momentum of OU’s academic improvement is clearly going in the right direction. Very few would even question that.

kevinpate
08-30-2012, 10:52 PM
is either osu or ou (or both) being televised this weekend?

ljbab728
08-30-2012, 11:09 PM
is either osu or ou (or both) being televised this weekend?

Yes to both.