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bluedogok
12-09-2012, 11:39 AM
It appears Texas is finally growing restless on the medical marijuana front.
Austin lawmaker says timing right for medical marijuana bill (http://www.kvue.com/news/Austin-state-rep-readies-bill-to-prevent-punishment-for-medical-marijuana-use-182451031.html)(Video)If I know Texas, it may come down to a business decision there. They share a border with Colorado as well, and are already overwhelmed trying to defend their southern border in the unwinnable war against drugs. The sooner they pass medical marijuana, the more Texas dollars stay in Texas.
The Oklahoma panhandle hasn't been part of Texas for a long, long time.

I doubt Texas passes anything any time soon, their legislature is maybe more conservative and more powers in rural areas than Oklahoma....of course maybe that was my perspective after living in Austin for for the past 9 years. Unless lobbyist money starts flowing, nothing gets done.

LandRunOkie
12-09-2012, 12:17 PM
Hispanics favor decriminalization at the highest rates. (http://www.mpp.org/assets/pdfs/blog/MPPResults.pdf) As Texas becomes more Hispanic, the only question will be how long the rural Texas legislators try to impede democracy.
Btw, thanks for correcting my mistake on the border. We can use all the help we can get (I'm not paid for my time on this)!

Bunty
12-09-2012, 02:28 PM
Maybe one way to get marijuana legalized soon in Oklahoma is for law enforcement to start stepping on the toes of rich people over the issue. This could be done by making raids for marijuana in wealthy neighborhoods. The rich people would loudly complain to legislators, and they might finally be driven to doing something major. I've also heard a lawyer say that making drug raids on many of the university sororities and fraternities in Oklahoma would be a way to force getting mighty good drug law reform action done. But it was probably said more in jest than seriousness.

onthestrip
12-09-2012, 05:00 PM
Assume that it's legalized - who is going to regulate the safety of the product? This story was on the local TV news last night, and this text is from KFOR.com (I have removed some line feeds):

OKLAHOMA CITY – An Oklahoma teenager is hospitalized at OU Medical Center after smoking synthetic marijuana. Doctors are warning people about how dangerous these types of drugs are. They go by many names such as Spice, K2 and Flame. This 15-year-old boy has been at the hospital for a week with kidney failure.

His mom Rhonda Woodrift said it came on after he smoked the drug. “A week ago today he started showing signs of a stomach virus, throwing up, back aching just feeling really crummy,” she said. “He said that he smoked about a gram and he said that was all and it wasn’t that much. They say it’s a lot easier to get than pot.”

OU David Meyers said this has been happening around the country and needs to be put out to the public. “At this time seem to show direct kidney toxicity from some chemical in the mix in addition to some inflammation in the kidney like an allergic reaction,” he said. Doctors don’t know if this teen will recover his kidney use.

His mom said she does know one thing, “He says he will never do drugs again; he won’t touch them. This has been pretty scary.”

Pot is now legal in Washington, but does that make it safe? Do all dealers in Washington have to submit their pot for testing prior to selling it, or are things no different than here in Oklahoma, where anyone - not just 15-year-old kids sneaking tokes - can end up with renal failure?


In these national cases, I don't think that the victims know if they're smoking real pot or the synthetic kind. All they know is that they're trying to get high, and then they end up in the hospital with blown kidneys. I don't think that this will change if pot is legalized, but it would if it is regulated, but neither the dealers nor the FDA want every dime bag inspected. So that takes us back to where we started.

Legal or not, you don't know what you're getting: A buzz and the munchies, or renal failure and a life of kidney dialysis.

First, real marijuana has never sent anyone to the hospital with an overdose. Second, if pot were to be legalized why would kids even try to buy fake pot? Fake pot only exists so it can be sold pseudo-legally until the state bans the certain chemical in it. Dont try to use this as an argument against legallizing real marijuana.

onthestrip
12-09-2012, 05:05 PM
Maybe one way to get marijuana legalized soon in Oklahoma is for law enforcement to start stepping on the toes of rich people over the issue. This could be done by making raids for marijuana in wealthy neighborhoods. The rich people would loudly complain to legislators, and they might finally be driven to doing something major. I've also heard a lawyer say that making drug raids on many of the university sororities and fraternities in Oklahoma would be a way to force getting mighty good drug law reform action done. But it was probably said more in jest than seriousness.

While I dont see this happening and would be a waste of resources, I could see this doing exactly what you are saying. Contrary to what some may believe, pot isnt being smoked only by hippies and out of work dead beats. Plenty of one percenters like to enjoy a smoke themsleves. They definitely would rasie hell if they were targeted by police

kevinpate
12-09-2012, 09:38 PM
... share a border with Colorado as well ...

My first thought was 'what's that guy smoking?' ... followed rather quickly by a Homerish Doh!

LandRunOkie
12-09-2012, 10:44 PM
The Oklahoma panhandle is only 40 minutes wide, so if someone decides to smuggle, that's not enough to stop them.

Just the facts
12-10-2012, 03:20 PM
Found this video interesting

Your Questions Answered: Driving under the influence of marijuana | KDVR.com – Denver News, Weather & Sports from FOX 31 News in Denver, Colorado (http://kdvr.com/2012/05/16/your-questions-answered-driving-under-the-influence-of-marijuana/#ooid=kxM2hwNDrRTL1Z-s321Av9_wgR200gXR)

One thing you can conclude is that if you are a regular pot smoker, your reflexes are permanently damaged whether you are high or not.

onthestrip
12-10-2012, 03:57 PM
One thing you can conclude is that if you are a regular pot smoker, your reflexes are permanently damaged whether you are high or not.

Not in anyway true. You cant state your baseless assumptions as if they were fact.

If your absurd claim that reflexes are permanently damaged from smoking, then how do you explain a pro athlete remaining competitive even after they got busted from smoking?

Jim Kyle
12-10-2012, 04:05 PM
Not in anyway true. You cant state your baseless assumptions as if they were fact.

If your absurd claim that reflexes are permanently damaged from smoking, then how do you explain a pro athlete remaining competitive even after they got busted from smoking?Or, for that matter, Gene Krupa's abilities, or Louis Armstrong's?

Bunty
12-10-2012, 06:30 PM
One thing you can conclude is that if you are a regular pot smoker, your reflexes are permanently damaged whether you are high or not.

Is that something you learned from "Reefer Madness"? Or something your kid learned in DARE?

Mel
12-10-2012, 11:57 PM
Or, for that matter, Gene Krupa's abilities, or Louis Armstrong's?

or Dave Brubeck. May he rest in peace. Muggles and Jazz go hand in hand.

soonerguru
12-11-2012, 01:38 AM
Found this video interesting

Your Questions Answered: Driving under the influence of marijuana | KDVR.com – Denver News, Weather & Sports from FOX 31 News in Denver, Colorado (http://kdvr.com/2012/05/16/your-questions-answered-driving-under-the-influence-of-marijuana/#ooid=kxM2hwNDrRTL1Z-s321Av9_wgR200gXR)

One thing you can conclude is that if you are a regular pot smoker, your reflexes are permanently damaged whether you are high or not.

Not some of your finest work.

Just the facts
12-11-2012, 06:56 AM
You guys didn't watch the video did you. You saw my comment at the end and called it a day. You can't tell me Max hasn't smoked a lot of pot over several years.

RadicalModerate
12-11-2012, 08:38 AM
You guys didn't watch the video did you. You saw my comment at the end and called it a day. You can't tell me Max hasn't smoked a lot of pot over several years.

I did watch the video all the way through and found it to be interesting and entertaining. Did you notice Max's comment about how when he "medicated" and his THC level went to three times the "Delta 9" impared set point he said he felt as if he "approached normal"? Maybe this guy should have his license to drive revoked . . . along with the older lady (about my age) who didn't even register on the scale for imparment but couldn't drive worth a damn. I think I've been behind the old guy with the beard several times on Pennsylvania (15 mph in a 45 mph zone).

Here is a video on a related topic:
Mythbusters: Cell Phone vs Drunk Driving MiniMyth : Video : Discovery Channel (http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/cell-phone-vs-drunk-driving-minimyth.htm)

Frankly, I don't care if marijuana/ganga/smoke/weed/ is legalized or not as long as people who are high stay off of any street I'm driving on.

But this isn't a "new" problem . . . Here is a noted /pot head of the 50's behind the wheel on another simulator:
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kelroy55
12-11-2012, 09:03 AM
Found this video interesting

Your Questions Answered: Driving under the influence of marijuana | KDVR.com – Denver News, Weather & Sports from FOX 31 News in Denver, Colorado (http://kdvr.com/2012/05/16/your-questions-answered-driving-under-the-influence-of-marijuana/#ooid=kxM2hwNDrRTL1Z-s321Av9_wgR200gXR)

One thing you can conclude is that if you are a regular pot smoker, your reflexes are permanently damaged whether you are high or not.

What did you see that led you to that conclusion? Is that just your opinion or do you have any facts that back that up?

LandRunOkie
12-11-2012, 10:54 AM
Found this video interesting
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One thing you can conclude is that if you are a regular pot smoker, your reflexes are permanently damaged whether you are high or not.
I think the question is are the limits for the blood test fair, 5 nanograms per mL. There was only one guy who was above the limit before he smoked. He was also putting a huge piece of bud in his bong when he went to smoke, so it is safe to say he is fairly dependent. Before he smoked he was at 6 nanograms. I would be in favor of raising the limit to 7 nanograms so people like him who are heavily dependent but haven't smoked that day can get to work or whatever.
About your statement about reflexes, the only long term health consequence of smoking pot is short term memory loss.

Just the facts
12-11-2012, 12:40 PM
My favorite Max quote after smoking the pot - "I think I did better that time. I felt more relaxed."

LandRunOkie
12-13-2012, 03:12 PM
Click Here (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/tell-vp-biden-end-his-war-marijuana-users-and-respect-people-colorado-and-washington/m4fQdJ4H) to sign the petition to the White House to end the war on marijuana users and respect the will of voters in Colorado and Washington state!

ljbab728
12-15-2012, 12:40 AM
Click Here (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/tell-vp-biden-end-his-war-marijuana-users-and-respect-people-colorado-and-washington/m4fQdJ4H) to sign the petition to the White House to end the war on marijuana users and respect the will of voters in Colorado and Washington state!

It sounds like the petition isn't necessary.

Obama considers easing up federal marijuana regulation - latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obama-legal-marijuana-20121215,0,5518803.story)

LandRunOkie
12-15-2012, 08:07 AM
The petition was absolutely necessary. The president made the statement about respecting CO and WA laws AFTER the petition was started. I take full credit for helping make it happen (1 of 9,000+ signatures).

soonerguru
12-15-2012, 02:49 PM
Good to see Obama agree to lay off recreational users in those states. His quote: "We have bigger fish to fry."

ljbab728
12-15-2012, 09:21 PM
The petition was absolutely necessary. The president made the statement about respecting CO and WA laws AFTER the petition was started. I take full credit for helping make it happen (1 of 9,000+ signatures).

I'm so glad we have you here to explain to us exactly why the president makes a statement about something. LOL
Obviously you have inside information.

Bunty
12-16-2012, 12:10 AM
An interesting defense being made here:

OAKLAND CITES U.S. AS BACKER OF MEDICAL POT

Oakland's latest round in its campaign to save the nation's largest medical marijuana dispensary includes a statement this week from Mayor Jean Quan saying federal prosecutors should back off, and the federal government's own patent application lauding the therapeutic qualities of cannabis.

In papers filed late Tuesday with the magistrate who is considering the fate of the Harborside Health Center, lawyers for Oakland said patent and research records reveal that "the government believes in the medical efficacy of cannabis" - contrary to the Justice Department's insistence that marijuana is a dangerous drug with no legitimate use.

Cedric Chao, a lawyer for the city, cited a 2003 patent application by the U.S. government that said cannabis compounds are "useful in the treatment and prophylaxis ( prevention ) of a wide variety of oxidation-associated diseases," including certain types of strokes and immunesystem disorders.

FROM: US CA: Oakland Cites U.S. As Backer Of Medical Pot (http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v12/n641/a02.html?204)

bluedogok
12-16-2012, 01:39 PM
California has had a lot of problems with the fed when it comes to medical marijuana. Some of the articles here have stated it is a combination of the federal bureaucrats there and the basis of the medical marijuana law in California. The medical marijuana law in Colorado was based on the California petition but had stricter guidelines put in place which has seemed to lessen the scrutiny here along with less prosecutor zeal in going after the shops. What the feds have been focusing on is the banking sector of the shops, going after their banks and credit card processors and trying to charge them under RICO statutes. Most shops have gone to cash only, which would seem to make it harder for the gov't to track possible illegal activity.

Bunty
12-24-2012, 12:35 AM
Patrica Spottedcrow is home for Christmas for the first time since being imprisoned over $31 worth of marijuana. Hear her story in an interview here: Patricia Spottedcrow | Cannabis Nation Radio - Marijuana, Cannabis, and Hemp Talk (http://cannabisnationradio.com/patricia-spottedcrow) In the interview, it was interesting to learn her mother is black with it said that whites in Kingfisher County only get probation for similar drug charges. Her 30 year prison sentence was suspended. The hosts found her story unbelievable. Until politicians at the Oklahoma State Capitol greatly change some laws, more stories like hers could resurface in the future.

But I would suspect most Oklahoma politicians have their hearts in getting reelected, while not chancing it by showing some heart toward people who suffer such gross misjustice from anti-marijuana laws. A lot of hearts do need changed in Oklahoma. I don't get why it's so hard to do, unless it's based on racism as the interview strongly suggested. Oklahoma's drug laws seem real handy to use to try to get rid of minorities you don't like. What a shame in this day and age.

RadicalModerate
12-24-2012, 01:06 AM
She should be banned/exiled from the Automatic Weapon Possesion Tribe.
Shouldn't she? (on account of being in favor of being stoned?)

LandRunOkie
01-22-2013, 06:21 PM
Just saw this, don't know if it was published this morning or will be tomorrow:
Oklahoma lawmaker seeks passage of marijuana laws | NewsOK.com (http://newsok.com/feed/oklahoma-lawmaker-seeks-passage-of-marijuana-laws/article/3748183?custom_click=pod_headline_news)
Constance Johnson is proposing a max of 10 days in jail and $200 fine for up to 1.5 ounces of pot.

kevinpate
01-23-2013, 12:26 AM
... It's uncertain if the bills will get a committee hearing in the Republican-controlled Legislature. ...

That's putting it rather charitably.

kelroy55
01-23-2013, 08:14 AM
Not a chance in hell is a more accurate description.

onthestrip
01-23-2013, 10:30 AM
This would be bad (loss of dollars) for law enforcement and the private prison lobby. They make too much money by locking up more people, non-violent or otherwise.

Its probably also why you are hearing about bills that are expanding violent crime classifications and trying to reduce the parole boards power to parole. I like how some lawmakers try to eliminate funding for arts or something that cost the state a couple million a year but prison reform is off limits even though we spend like half a billion a year on locking people up.

Bunty
01-23-2013, 04:57 PM
Not a chance in hell is a more accurate description.

Sen. Johnson had best work as hard as she can for major marijuana law reform. The Republicans rearranged her district so there would be a lot fewer blacks living in it. So her chances for winning reelection may not be good.

Meanwhile, I would suggest writing every Republican Oklahoma state legislator to ask them to support those marijuana reform bills by Sen. Johnson. It's probably a waste of time to write to Democrats, since there is nothing they can do to advance those marijuana bills. However, Demo Sen. Johnson is mighty brave to still be trying to do that, since her district surely isn't as Democratic as it once was.

Bunty
01-23-2013, 05:01 PM
This would be bad (loss of dollars) for law enforcement and the private prison lobby. They make too much money by locking up more people, non-violent or otherwise.



But if I'm right, very few people go to prison over marijuana over first and possibly second offenses, with Patrica Spottedcrow being an outstanding exception to that. She has said whites in her county don't go to prison over the first offense.

bchris02
01-24-2013, 12:35 AM
People in this state are pretty hypocritical when it comes to marijuana. Most people here are all about personal freedom when it comes to gun rights, but smoke a joint and you deserve a year in prison. Marijuana is physically non-addictive, so if someone is a stoner it's their own fault and they could quit anytime they choose. There is no reason alcohol should be legal but marijuana not. At the very least, penalties should be reduced for marijuana. Oklahoma has the strictest laws in the nation.

I highly doubt this will pass though. When will Republicans realize how hypocritical they are at fighting marijuana legalization to the death? It was liberal, anti-freedom policies that made it illegal in the first place so I would expect the party of personal freedom and responsibility to be more open to giving people freedom to use a harmless plant in the private of their own home. The thing is, there isn't even a Biblical rationale for marijuana prohibition.

Funny thing is though, this state could possibly see easier marijuana laws before we will ever get rid of 3.2 beer.

soonerguru
01-25-2013, 12:49 AM
People in this state are pretty hypocritical when it comes to marijuana. Most people here are all about personal freedom when it comes to gun rights, but smoke a joint and you deserve a year in prison. Marijuana is physically non-addictive, so if someone is a stoner it's their own fault and they could quit anytime they choose. There is no reason alcohol should be legal but marijuana not. At the very least, penalties should be reduced for marijuana. Oklahoma has the strictest laws in the nation.

I highly doubt this will pass though. When will Republicans realize how hypocritical they are at fighting marijuana legalization to the death? It was liberal, anti-freedom policies that made it illegal in the first place so I would expect the party of personal freedom and responsibility to be more open to giving people freedom to use a harmless plant in the private of their own home. The thing is, there isn't even a Biblical rationale for marijuana prohibition.

Funny thing is though, this state could possibly see easier marijuana laws before we will ever get rid of 3.2 beer.

The party of "personal freedom?" Funny guy.

bchris02
01-25-2013, 12:48 PM
The party of "personal freedom?" Funny guy.

That's what they claim to be and they are on some issues, but on others they are just as tyrannical as the Democrats. We don't have a true pro-freedom across the board party in America. Somebody like Ron Paul who will stand up for everyone's rights doesn't stand a chance. Sad.

Plutonic Panda
01-30-2013, 09:21 PM
State Lawmaker Pushes To Legalize Medical Marijuana - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/20875940/state-lawmaker-pushes-to-legalize-medical-marijuana)

Achilleslastand
02-01-2013, 03:10 PM
I had my ID scanned today just for buying some canned air{??}. Im sure them legalizing MJ is just right around the corner hehe.

Bunty
02-04-2013, 06:39 AM
3295

Bunty
02-05-2013, 11:28 AM
Marijuana seemingly found at the scene of every crime? What about beer and aspirin? Medical marijuana legislation proposed - ocolly.com : Stillwater (http://www.ocolly.com/news/stillwater/article_84c383f4-6e29-11e2-aa73-001a4bcf6878.html)

RadicalModerate
02-05-2013, 12:23 PM
"Medical/Other Marijuana Use Legalization Being Pushed in Stillwater" . . .
"Aldi Location Being Considered For Stillwater" . . .
I guess if one is stoned enough, any grocery store looks better than it really is . . . but I can only guess.

onthestrip
02-05-2013, 12:26 PM
Marijuana seemingly found at the scene of every crime? What about beer and aspirin? Medical marijuana legislation proposed - ocolly.com : Stillwater (http://www.ocolly.com/news/stillwater/article_84c383f4-6e29-11e2-aa73-001a4bcf6878.html)

Crain is a joke of a legislator. It "seemed" at every crime there was pot? Nice unscientific view. Nevermind the fact that 81% of drug related deaths in Oklahoma are from prescription pills. Most senators are against even listening to pot reform because the old folks from their church that got them elected dont like it and think its the devil.

BlackmoreRulz
02-09-2013, 02:08 PM
3295

9 ounces a month? Dayum, that is some heavy smoking....

Bunty
02-09-2013, 03:06 PM
Crain is a joke of a legislator. It "seemed" at every crime there was pot? Nice unscientific view. Nevermind the fact that 81% of drug related deaths in Oklahoma are from prescription pills. Most senators are against even listening to pot reform because the old folks from their church that got them elected dont like it and think its the devil.

Presence of marijuana at a crime scene has to do with it being prohibited, not due to its use. In other words, people rarely smoke pot and then decide they gotta go commit a crime.

bchris02
02-09-2013, 05:43 PM
It's quite ironic that baby boomers, who all smoked it when they were young, are the most against its legalization.

People I know who are educated on the topic, on both sides of the political spectrum, are for legalization. Too many people though lump it in with heroin and meth because that's what their elementary school D.A.R.E. program told them and they haven't bothered to give it any further research.

I will say Oklahoma will probably be one of the last states to legalize marijuana though. This state still hasn't warmed up to full-strength beer.

RadicalModerate
02-09-2013, 06:30 PM
It's quite ironic that baby boomers, who all smoked it when they were young, are the most against its legalization.

People I know who are educated on the topic, on both sides of the political spectrum, are for legalization. Too many people though lump it in with heroin and meth because that's what their elementary school D.A.R.E. program told them and they haven't bothered to give it any further research.

I will say Oklahoma will probably be one of the last states to legalize marijuana though. This state still hasn't warmed up to full-strength beer.

I think that a person would have to be close to nearly totally stoned to generalize about the shared opinions of Baby Boomers.
(Screaming Yellow Zonkers were the best snack ever . . . listening to something tasty by The Moody Blues, John Mayall, or that one good Stones album).

Personally, I never really liked a "pot" "high" . . . But at least dope smokers (of the "natural" variety) rarely got violent . . . Any opinions on the legalization of "organic mescaline"? =)

On the other hand, we didn't have cell phone apps to turn us into metaphorical zombies . . . =)
btw: there are more than "both" sides of the political spectrum . . . jest sayin'

Bunty
02-12-2013, 02:00 PM
Legalize and regulate marijuana like alcohol, and Sen. Crain can stop fretting about marijuana being found at the scene of crimes. Criminal drug pushers can't make big money selling something legal. Sen. Crain's reasoning skills are so lame and lacking.

I wouldn't be surprised if old timers during the 1950s can recall that a frequent reason given as to why alcohol shouldn't be legalized in Oklahoma was because it was frequently found in the hands of criminals.

ljbab728
02-14-2013, 12:18 AM
An update on Oklahoma moves in this direction.

Author of marijuana bill halts Oklahoma House committee hearing to address concerns | News OK (http://newsok.com/author-of-marijuana-bill-halts-oklahoma-house-committee-hearing-to-address-concerns/article/3755128)

onthestrip
02-14-2013, 11:19 AM
An update on Oklahoma moves in this direction.

Author of marijuana bill halts Oklahoma House committee hearing to address concerns | News OK (http://newsok.com/author-of-marijuana-bill-halts-oklahoma-house-committee-hearing-to-address-concerns/article/3755128)

This makes too much sense...so Im sure it wont get passed.

Its absolutely ridiculous to give a personal user a felony if they get caught holding twice. Why should the state be speding money to lock up such a non violent person. Its a total waste of money. Give a fine, maybe some hours of community service but that should be about it. Its even more ridiculous when 80% of drug deaths in Oklahoma are from prescription meds, yet we dont seem to be doing much about that.

Bunty
02-14-2013, 11:58 AM
Well, probably Mark Woodward would tell you that very few people in Oklahoma are in prison over marijuana charges alone. Ones that are were likely charged with other crimes. Inmates, who are exceptions, probably aren't white. Remember criminals want to deal in marijuana to make big money with it, free of income tax. Maybe some make it a point not to smoke up their profits. Legislators who don't want to legalize marijuana are among their biggest allies.

With most of the marijuana law reform movement in Oklahoma concentrated in Stillwater for the last 15 years, it was well past time a legislator from there did something to act upon it.

Bunty
02-14-2013, 07:35 PM
Meanwhile, there is so much fear against marijuana in South Dakota, a bill that would have allowed those charged with marijuana to use it as a medical defense couldn't make it out of committee, even though two police officers supported it. That pretty unfortunate when legislators don't even want to listen to the police on what to do about marijuana.

South Dakota Medical Marijuana Defense Bill Defeated

A bill that would have allowed South Dakotans charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession to mount a medical necessity defense was defeated Tuesday in the state legislature. The bill died on a 7-6 vote in the Health and Human Services Committee.

More accurately, it was "deferred to the 41st day" of the legislative session. The session only has 40 days.

The bill, House Bill 1227, would have allowed people caught with less than two ounces of marijuana to mount a medical necessity defense against either a pot possession charge or the state's unique ingestion for the purposes of intoxication charge. It provided for such a defense to be mounted if "a competent medical authority" has recommended its palliative use or if its use is known to be palliative for a given condition.

The defeat in Pierre only adds to the state's reputation as one of the most medical marijuana-unfriendly in the county. Medical marijuana bills have been introduced repeatedly since 2001, but never go anywhere, and the state has the dubious distinction of being the first to defeat an initiative legalizing medical marijuana and the only one to do it twice, in 2006 and 2010.

"If you talk to drug users, nine times out of 10 they started with marijuana first," said Rep. Melissa Magstadt (R-Watertown), reiterating the long discredited gateway theory. The registered nurse also cited opposition to the bill from the state's medical and nursing associations.

"This is about being compassionate to our folks," said Sen. Karen Soli (D-Sioux Falls). "When I first heard of this, I thought no way. I'm not in favor of legalizing marijuana," she added. "It's quite a surprise to me I'm going to vote for this."

The bill's sponsors, Rep. Dan Kaixer (R-Aberdeen), a police officer, and Sen. Craig Tiezen (R- Rapid City), a retired police chief, testified before the committee last week. They told legislators the bill would not legalize marijuana or allow for advance doctor's recommendations, but would allow someone charged with possession to argue in court that they needed it for medical reasons and present evidence to make their case, with the final decision in the hands of the trial judge.

The South Dakota Supreme Court in 2003 rejected the use of the medical marijuana necessity defense in the case of a wheelchair-bound man. This bill would have made the defense available as part of state law.
From: South Dakota Medical Marijuana Defense Bill Defeated (http://www.420magazine.com/forums/international-cannabis-news/184023-south-dakota-medical-marijuana-defense-bill-defeated.html#post1672874)

boscorama
02-14-2013, 07:49 PM
Did you hear about some dumbbell at a Braums in Edmond, smoking a joint in the parking lot, near some motorcycle cops, radio blaring? News9 reports this today. They also found a bag of pot in the car. Amazing, the cops were told by a superior to give the guy a citation and let him go.

Sanity strikes!

The perp should be sent through Stoopid Court.

Bunty
02-14-2013, 10:20 PM
Maybe the jails are nearly full and care needs to be shown to make sure there's plenty of room for bank robbers, rapists, shooters and so forth.

betts
02-15-2013, 07:48 AM
I have to throw in this parenthetical bit of information, because I found it funny (of the ha ha variety). I was in Norman yesterday and had to wait a bit to meet my son, who was in class. So, I decided to drop into Barnes and Noble to try and find a book on landscaping a small yard, as my daughter just bought a row house in Chicago with a miniature yard. I couldn't find a single book on the small yard subject, but the gardening section had a plethora of books on marijuana cultivation. I'd never seen a gardening section with so many books on a single subject, much less with marijuana as the subject.

Bunty
02-16-2013, 03:29 AM
Don't know why any book store would go big on marijuana cultivation in Oklahoma, since one can get up to life in prison for doing that. I'm not sure if a person can avoid any prison time at all upon the first conviction. Meanwhile, try finding a book that is all about how harmful marijuana is to society. As much opposition and paranoia as there is against marijuana, one would think it would be easy to find a few books on the subject.

Bunty
02-16-2013, 02:40 PM
See what I mean my paranoia: Elderly couple pulled over after their Buckeye car decal is mistaken for a marijuana leaf Y! SPORTS (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/elderly-couple-pulled-over-buckeye-car-decal-mistaken-191317336--ncaaf.html)

jett713
02-22-2013, 05:11 PM
Urge your state Senator to support SB 710!

Medical Marijuana Legislation To Be Heard Monday in Oklahoma. Senator Constance Johnson (D-Oklahoma District 28) has reintroduced legislation, Senate Bill 710, to allow patients with qualifying conditions to use cannabis for therapeutic purposes. After initially declining to schedule the bill for a hearing, Senate Health and Human Services Committee Chairman Senator Brian Cain has placed Senate Bill 710 on the committee's agenda for Monday, February 25. This is, in no small part, thanks to the hundreds of you who contacted your Senators in support of this legislation. The hearing is expected to take place around 2pm in Room 413C of the Oklahoma Capitol. Those planning on attending in person are advised to arrive early.

Senate Bill 710 would allow qualifying patients to use cannabis with a physician's recommendation. Patients would be permitted to possess up to eight ounces of marijuana and cultivate up to twelve marijuana plants. SB 710 would also allow the state to license marijuana dispensaries and cultivation centers. You can read the full text of this proposal here. You can read NORML's support of this legislative effort here.

Please take two minutes of your time to contact your state legislator and urge him or her to support SB 710. For your convenience, a pre-written letter will be e-mailed to your state Senator when you visit NORML's 'Take Action Center' here:

Medical Marijuana Legislation To Be Heard Monday in Oklahoma (http://capwiz.com/norml2/issues/alert/?alertid=62348741)

NORML will continue to update you in the coming weeks as this proposal moves forward. You can learn more about this legislation from Oklahoma NORML and Tulsa NORML.

Sincerely,
The NORML Team

Bunty
02-22-2013, 07:41 PM
Not mentioned above is that Sen. Crain, not Cain, wants to see a House co-sponsor for SB 710. To get info on how to contact your state rep on that matter, go here to bottom right of page: Oklahoma House of Representatives - Home Page (http://www.okhouse.gov/)

As for the Oklahoma Senate, the ones there for now who most need to hear from you are on the Health and Human Services Committee, since this is where SB 710 is to be heard. Get contact info for them on this page: http://www.oksenate.gov/committees/standing/health_human_services.htm

jett713
02-23-2013, 04:23 PM
[QUOTE=Bunty;621129]Not mentioned above is that Sen. Crain, not Cain, wants to see a House co-sponsor for SB 710. To get info on how to contact your state rep on that matter, go here to bottom right of page: Oklahoma House of Representatives - Home Page (http://www.okhouse.gov/)


Yes it's Crain. Cain was a typo.

LandRunOkie
02-27-2013, 06:05 PM
Reduced marijuana penalties OK'd by Oklahoma panel | News OK (http://newsok.com/reduced-marijuana-penalties-okd-by-oklahoma-panel/article/3759545)

Its not much, but at least it looks like it will pass.