No matter what side you're on, cannabis in Oklahoma is completely out of control.

The medical prequalification is an absolute joke (just do it online, say you have headaches), we have more dispensaries per capita than anywhere, and the entire industry is virtually lawless.

Plus, you have people driving all over town *while* getting high. I walk every single day and always, always smell it from passing cars.

It's not just about partaking, it's about all the craziness it has unleashed. And if you knew some of the local key players in this industry you'd understand what I'm talking about. It's a very bad element and most of them are doing everything in their power to dodge our flimsy laws, often in collaboration with out-of-state sleazeballs.

We got into this having no idea what we are doing and that needs to change.

Someone has reefer madness.

Someone has reefer madness.

Username checks out, lol.

Someone has reefer madness.

It seems so. I never smell pot when I go for a walk in Stillwater, like to Mexico Joe's. I pass near two med dispensaries on the way, and they hardly ever look busy. Med pot doesn't appear to be popular with college students, since Ardmore has more dispensaries than Stillwater. The dispensaries at least where I'm from look so unbusy, I won't be surprised some of the close before long.

I really don’t see how marijuana is out of control, or any worse than any other state that has legalization.

If 820 had been as noteworthy about giving localities the power to as much as totally roll back marijuana, it probably would have passed. If counties and/or towns were given the right to vote to totally throw out and ban any kind of marijuana business, the vote would have tightened considerably in rural areas. To assure a win, things could be included to please metro voters, such as give cities the power to limit the number of dispensaries. Better regulation of grows could be specified. This all is similar to how Colorado does marijuana, so most all of the eastern half of the state is free from having any kind of business having to do with marijuana. The western half of Oklahoma would likely look the same if given the chance.

Colorado Springs, Colorado's 2nd biggest city in November in a vote rejected the opportunity to allow legal sales of rec marijuana. The vote wasn't close. They are happy sticking with just having a little over 100 legal medical marijuana dispensaries. People who want rec can still go to nearby Manitou Springs. Anyway, any new future vote for rec marijuana in Oklahoma certainly shouldn't mirror SQ820. How other states run fully legal marijuana would be worthy of a look before a new petition is written.

I really don’t see how marijuana is out of control, or any worse than any other state that has legalization.

It's the industry that is out of control, IMO, meaning that the reasonable controls and regulations that should be there in any business to protect the consumers and the public at large are largely nonexistent or not enforced in Oklahoma. The pro-cannabis folks need to be the drivers in maturing the regulatory framework, and if they don't, the anti-cannabis folks will do it for them.

I didn't vote against rec cannabis, but if you want the general populous to approve it, running around yelling 'reefer madness' is not going to help your cause.

The bottom line is we already have rec it just is very, very thinly disguised and that was never the intent of the law that did pass.

So, be happy with what we have and know that most voters feel they were completely duped in the medical vote. I'm not arguing the validity of that stance, just telling you how most people feel about this issue -- which is obvious by the huge and unsurprising slap-down in the last vote.


And if you aren't smelling it at stoplights or when walking along a roadside, you must be hard of smelling. I smell it almost every day.

And there are those who are pro cannabis, but voted against it because they like how things are now with regulations. Dispensary owners and growers already figured out how to take advantage of loop holes for maximum profit.

I'm amazed at the places and situations where I smell weed. Passing cars, outside restaurants, outside stores etc. Becoming less amazed though, as time goes on and its just pretty commonplace.

A year or so ago we had a contractor doing repairs in our building and the individual reeked of marijuana. This was concerning for safety reasons, as the person had to climb a ladder to do the work. Nothing calamitous happened, but still.

I wasn't aware that smelling things you don't like the smell of was grounds to have it banned. I should get started on drafting a state question to ban sardines and Bradford pear trees.

Oh, I rather like the smell of it. Just noting its become really pervasive. I'm not opposed to cannabis; along with a lot of others, I voted to bring in the medical mj a few years ago. It just seems the regulating agencies cannot get a handle on keeping the growing/distributing safe and legal.

The fact is the state never wanted to regulate it they wanted to kill it. Remember when medical was on the ballot and the first thing leadership did was change the language of the state question. Courts made them change it back. Even now they are looking at ways to kill not regulate it.

There is no way they can kill it now. We have literally thousands of dispensaries (estimated at 2,300) and hundreds of grow facilities. The genie is out of the bottle, plus millions are pouring into state coffers.

I do think legislators will continue to try and add restrictions but what's the worst that can happen? People will actually have to receive a semi-legit medical diagnosis?

Even if that does come to pass, you just find a doctor who wants to make a buck and provide easy approvals.

Yep there will always be those types of doctors.

Yep there will always be those types of doctors.

As long as it's safer to prescribe than tylenol, then yeah, there will always be those types of doctors.

Its easy money. Yep, sounds like your suffering. Give me money now.

Haven't they? I mean, they are letting states legalize weed, and even mushrooms in some states. The only bad thing is that veterans or those who use the VA or other federal healthcare can't use it.

It may have been discussed in this thread, but I know there has been a concern about medical marijuana use and truthfully filling out a 4473 to purchase a firearm. The concern was that you either have to lie on the 4473 (I'm guessing that's a felony) or not pass a background check to purchase a firearm.

And what about people who own firearms and then get a medical marijuana card? Are they now illegal gun owners?

For what it's worth. we spent the weekend in Dallas and i smelled weed as often or more often than I do in OKC. the hotel lobby, outside, the hallways. The streets around town and bars. we commented on it that the way it smells around Dallas you would think they had Rec marijuana.

For what it's worth. we spent the weekend in Dallas and i smelled weed as often or more often than I do in OKC. the hotel lobby, outside, the hallways. The streets around town and bars. we commented on it that the way it smells around Dallas you would think they had Rec marijuana.

No wonder why. The Dallas area has more than twice as many people around to smoke up the air with pot than OKC. Then compare that to small town Oklahoma where there are too few people around to smoke up the air with pot. Many small towners as too conservative to smoke pot, thinking it's for low class druggies. So, in Stillwater, the big complaint about smelling smoke is related to the bars that still allow smoking cigarettes, such as George's.

OKC man arrested by the FBI and charged with distributing 2,700 pounds of black market cannabis across state lines in one truckload.

Alleged is that this man used a fake Amazon delivery van to buy weed at local grows, took it in bulk to a stash house where it was repackaged, taken by van again to his granite business warehouse, then loaded into a semi which was then pulled over in Indiana.

Sounds like it's been going on for a while as the probable cause filing indicates a truck has been loaded up about once a week.


Stories like this will only add fuel to the movement to clamp down on this industry.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2023/04/10/marijuana-oklahoma-fake-amazon-van-used-black-market-fbi/70100529007/

^^^ like it wasn’t being done before either. All we have now is crime being brought to light because of legalization not that it wasn’t happening before.

^^^ like it wasn’t being done before either. All we have now is crime being brought to light because of legalization not that it wasn’t happening before.

We didn't have big, open grow facilities all over the state before the law changed.

Medical cannabis may be legal in Oklahoma but it's spawned a ton of criminal activity. You might not agree with the law but as a society, you don't get to pick and choose which laws you want to obey without consequences.

We didn't have big, open grow facilities all over the state before the law changed.

Medical cannabis may be legal in Oklahoma but it's spawned a ton of criminal activity. You might not agree with the law but as a society, you don't get to pick and choose which laws you want to obey without consequences.
But you don’t think that our current laws have anything to do with bringing what was already happening to light? I do. How could it not. Maybe a new element has been added but I don’t think it’s fair to draw any negative conclusions from medical or recreational without proper context.

But you don’t think that our current laws have anything to do with bringing what was already happening to light? I do. How could it not. Maybe a new element has been added but I don’t think it’s fair to draw any negative conclusions from medical or recreational without proper context.

No. I think our laws have allowed huge production which is being shipped out of state illegally and a bunch of other crimes.

2,700 pounds was in one truckload and the filing said the shipping was happening once a week.


Interesting to note they weren't even tracking this guy until the feds came across a truckload in Arkansas and then the driver showed the GPS of where he picked up and it was this guy's warehouse. State law enforcement had no clue, so what does that tell you?

In most of the western 1/3 or Colorado and in most of the eastern half of Colorado, marijuana, including growing it, is illegal in any form. As a result, I wonder if illegal growing operations go on there. If they don't, it shows you how both the Oklahoma Legislature and SQ820 promoters did a poor job dealing with what resulted from the presence of legal medical marijuana as prescribed under SQ788. Maybe Colorado has a smart way of keeping marijuana under control where it is legal. Anyway, I don't know of a more acceptable or better way than to go with how the state of Colorado deals with marijuana. Going my majorities in localities, both the people who want it legal and those who didn't were well accommodated.

Once again, the doctors we used for our last renewal are out of business (first set of docs got out of the business during COVID, who knows when this one did). Anybody have any recommendations? If we have to go in, someplace near NW 36th/May would be handy, otherwise by text or video is fine, thanks...

Once again, the doctors we used for our last renewal are out of business (first set of docs got out of the business during COVID, who knows when this one did). Anybody have any recommendations? If we have to go in, someplace near NW 36th/May would be handy, otherwise by text or video is fine, thanks...

You might ask your local dispensary. They usually have a few recommendations, and there are several online that are reputable.

Google Docs of Cannabis. 5929 N May Ave STE 204. You can do it with them all through a face time call. I think there are cheaper places around though. Supposed to be a place at 2501 NW 10th that is cheap to get a card or renewal.

Thanks, I found Elevate Holistics, will probably go with them.

Interesting study concludes that OK is oversupplied by a huge amount...

https://oklahoma.gov/omma/about/supply-and-demand-study.html

Interesting study concludes that OK is oversupplied by a huge amount...

https://oklahoma.gov/omma/about/supply-and-demand-study.htmlOh well. Maybe the growers/suppliers should have actively backed recreational.

Oh well. Maybe the growers/suppliers should have actively backed recreational.

that wouldn't change the state being oversupplied

I mean we are staring down this being federally legal within 10 years. If Oklahoma is set up to be a growing state it could be a national seller.

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It already IS a national seller. Production is an estimated 64x in-state licensed user consumption level, and legal consumption is literally everywhere in this state. That excess product is going SOMEWHERE, and it’s not just Texas.

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It already IS a national seller. Production is an estimated 64x in-state licensed user consumption level, and legal consumption is literally everywhere in this state. That excess product is going SOMEWHERE, and it’s not just Texas.

And then there is the small matter that moving weed out of state is highly illegal and usually involves the worst sort of criminals.

And then there is the small matter that moving weed out of state is highly illegal and usually involves the worst sort of criminals.

Yes. I would prefer to make this federally legal and get some of this type of criminal activity gone. I am sure some will still exist but nothing on the scale that is now. Embarrassing.

that wouldn't change the state being oversupplied

Yes it would. It would have increased the potential customer base legally able to buy it by several million people.

Yes it would. It would have increased the potential customer base legally able to buy it by several million people.

lol not really pretty much everyone that wants to partake in Oklahoma already does

lol not really pretty much everyone that wants to partake in Oklahoma already does

Eh I think you would see more sales if out of towners could partake. All the casinos, Broken bow Texas owners. Would it completely empty the over supply? Doubtful.

Yes it would. It would have increased the potential customer base legally able to buy it by several million people.It definitely would increase sales some. I know 12 to 15 co-workers that can't get a card and won't risk anyone living in their household to get a card. And we're a very small facility. There have to be thousands of people in our situation.

lol not really pretty much everyone that wants to partake in Oklahoma already does

I believe there are a few people who live outside of the state of Oklahoma.

There is 1 single metro an hour and half south of the border that has twice the population of the entire state of Oklahoma who would love to help us with our current over supply problem. Unfortunately there is no legal way for them to do that. And that's just one single point on a very large map.

lol not really pretty much everyone that wants to partake in Oklahoma already does

I love myopic POVs...

Wonder why this thread died. Hope others won't mind resurrecting it.

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